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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-)
a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Everything except for d. :-) Hugs, Di
Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everything except for d. :-) Hugs, Di Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else — Everything excluding F. LJ The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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It’s an interesting speculation, unfortunately the cause of many things doesn’t really give rise to their solution. If you don’t know how to fix your inoperative car sitting in the driveway, all the diagnostic skill in the world as to the "cause" of the problem is useless, because you still can’t fix it, unless you know how. Problems in childhood obviously can’t be "fixed" – they are in the past. The way we respond to our memory of them can be fixed, which is usually accomplished via therapy. Stress in adulthood can definitely sometimes be fixed, but can be just as definitely immutable in other situations. Again, our response to it is the germane issue, taught in therapy and sometimes mitigated/mediated with medications as well. Genetic causes: If, tomorrow, they were to come straight out to the public and say "without any doubt, genetic defect is absolutely positively the cause of panic and other anxiety disorders" it would be interesting, but the problem would be that we don’t really know how to "fix" that problem yet. Substance abuse can only be fixed by stopping the behavior. If it happened in the past, it’s been postulated many times that, in the absence of a disorder, substance abuse is not implicated in the development of an anxiety disorder. I personally am not sure if I agree with that or not, but that is what most researchers feel at present. There is a huge and growing body of evidence to suggest genetic cause. My personal take on it is answer "e". While it is true that knowing the cause of a symptom is often key in getting rid of it, via eliminating the underlying cause, it does involved "doing" something. E.G. If someone is coughing because they have pneumonia, failure to know the cause (the pneumonia, discovered by chest x-ray, other examination findings such as temperature, lung sounds, possibly sputum culture) would result in failure to get rid of the symptoms well, if the physician only gave cough syrup and didn’t know of/treat the pneumonia with antibiotics. On the other hand, right now, full knowledge of the cause of someone’s anxiety will give rise (sometimes) to a treatment plan, but is often "difficult", so requires considerable effort on the part of the treated patient to do the treatment plan….. Even the pneumonia patient has to actually "take" the antibiotics, just like the psych patient has to "do" the therapy, or take his meds, or both. I guess I’m just more into treatment than cause, despite knowing that both have value. gary Gary
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a, b, c, f smiles, Elise
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
In my case, it would be mainly (a) and (b). I’m not sure if genetics applies in my case, I only take prescription drugs and I only drink occasionally. My job is somewhat stressful. I work in news, and I often have to view news footage involving violence. I think not taking a vacation for two years (I have one scheduled for next month) and being jealous of others who are more successful may also play a role. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
All of the above, but I must say that *most* of the drug and alcohol abuse was due to self medicating for the anxiety. Too bad it backfired on me and made everything worse in the long run. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE
For me I would say a (partly), b (definitely) and c (most definitely) I was teetotal until the age of about 23 (which was after my illness started), have never taken illegal drugs and only had a fortnight or so on Valium after I started with my agoraphobia, so d doesn’t figure. Whereas there is family history of anxiety type illness, which hints at c. Steve. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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"_TJ_" wrote Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
a-b-d-f Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from?
Never have ;) I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
I’d pick e and f. I sometimes wonder if anxiety disorders are caused by factors that mankind has not yet discovered or even considered. The cause of anxiety disorders is unknown. But there’s plenty of speculation. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Experts agree on the nurture/nature theory. However I believe there is always *one* root cause. For example, a solider seeing the horrors on the battlefield later suffers from PTSD. The doctors come in and say he saw a horrible explosion and that is the reason he has PTSD. They will not delve into his childhood or adulthod stress or genetics, etc too much. I would like to think that we all have suffred at some point in our life from a "trauma", an incident or incidents which triggers off anxiety. Until that "trauma" is resolved we keep going round in circles. This may be an oversimplification but that is my take. Best wishes, Sunil – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else c) I have (had) three genetically related siblings with schizophrenia. How relieved was I when I was told that I *only* had panic. Well some other stuff too but that is not important. b) Trying to help my brother to find a solution, a way of life, that did not involve his death. I failed in that. Simon
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Genetic causes: If, tomorrow, they were to come straight out to the public and say "without any doubt, genetic defect is absolutely positively the cause of panic and other anxiety disorders" it would be interesting, but the problem would be that we don’t really know how to "fix" that problem yet.
It’s more than not knowing how to fix genetically-mediated panic disorder, it’s figuring out how genes cause either susceptibility to panic or the attacks themselves. I do believe that genetics play a role in panic. My mother was on a benzodiazepine for about 15 years; another relative (one of her sisters, actually) was constantly gobbling down Ativan. My father was an alcoholic, and I suspect he may have had anxiety-related issues as well, but in the Sixties and Seventies when I was growing up, alcohol was generally how men treated their problems. Tranquilisers were always seen as a "woman’s" thing. Yet I never remember my parents ever showing any overt signs of panic. Then again, even if I had, I doubt that I would have recognized the signs for what they were. Steve — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Steve, there’s no question about it – genetics absolutely does play a role. I listened to an hour discussion, I believe the doctor’s name was Philip Nynan, I will try to find it. He spoke at a symposium in Atlanta about the discoveries made on alleles of genes, genomes, all that. It was very interesting. You sound like many, many people (including me) when you speak of your family history. Between that, and the docs’ research, it’s pretty hard to argue against genetics at this point, but unfortunately they have not reached a point where they can do a whole lot with it. G
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Genetic causes: If, tomorrow, they were to come straight out to the public and say "without any doubt, genetic defect is absolutely positively the cause of panic and other anxiety disorders" it would be interesting, but the problem would be that we don’t really know how to "fix" that problem yet. It’s more than not knowing how to fix genetically-mediated panic disorder, it’s figuring out how genes cause either susceptibility to panic or the attacks themselves. I do believe that genetics play a role in panic. My mother was on a benzodiazepine for about 15 years; another relative (one of her sisters, actually) was constantly gobbling down Ativan. My father was an alcoholic, and I suspect he may have had anxiety-related issues as well, but in the Sixties and Seventies when I was growing up, alcohol was generally how men treated their problems. Tranquilisers were always seen as a "woman’s" thing. Yet I never remember my parents ever showing any overt signs of panic. Then again, even if I had, I doubt that I would have recognized the signs for what they were. Steve — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else
I don’t know. Possibly genetic as I have family members with anxiety disorders but none of them developed it as early as I did. My childhood was normal but had my first panic attack at 14. I used to over analyse things as a child so that may have been a trigger but I don’t focus too much on what is the original cause. My therapist taught me very early on that it wouldn’t help. It was better to focus on finding strategies to overcome it rather than keep trying to work out why. Vanessa — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I don’t have the vaguest clue. I’ve always been kind of a "nervous" and serious minded person, but I didn’t develop an actual disorder unti a few years ago. PD started in on me when I went back to school to finish my degree, and GAD reared it’s awful head when my mom was pronounced terminally ill. I guess maybe I fit category B — I don’t know. But I had gone through many very stressful, difficult events earlier in my life – as an adult, and didn’t have anxiety issues from any of it. Go figure. I still don’t really understand it..nor do I need to. Fact is, I have it now and I am learning to deal with it. That’s all I really care about. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Do you ever think about where your anxiety and panic problems stem from? I think this is a hard question to answer for many people. I’m not too sure what caused me to develop panic disorder. From the list below I’d guess I’d pick b and c. :-) a) Problems in childhood b) Stress in adulthood c) genetic causes d) drugs/alcohol abuse e) a combination of the above f) something else — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE
Difficult question! I’ve not yet had a doctor that could give me a specific reason for my disorder. At a guess I would say ‘a’ and ‘b’ though I think ‘b’ was an outcome of ‘a’ Caz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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::Difficult question! I’ve not yet had a doctor that could give me a specific ::reason for my disorder. At a guess I would say ‘a’ and ‘b’ though I think ::’b’ was an outcome of ‘a’ I would say the same thing for myself as well. I do think there is a genetic component as well. Jackie ~*~"Strange, isn’t it? "Each man’s life touches so many other lives, and when he isn’t around he leaves an awful hole, doesn’t he?"~*~ ~ Clarence ~ George Bailey’s Guardian Angel from the film, "It’s a Wonderful Life" — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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::Difficult question! I’ve not yet had a doctor that could give me a specific ::reason for my disorder. At a guess I would say ‘a’ and ‘b’ though I think ::’b’ was an outcome of ‘a’ I would say the same thing for myself as well. I do think there is a genetic component as well. Jackie
I think genetics are very important in my case. I have depressed uncles and anxious aunts. My dad cracked up in his late 20s too – same as me. I was the most nervous, worried, shyest child you could ever meet. There was no way I was going to develop into a healthy, normal adult without professional help – but that wasn’t something available to working-class Irish parents back in the 80s. Hopefully now that it is available, I can turn my life around! — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Experts agree on the nurture/nature theory. However I believe there is always *one* root cause. For example, a solider seeing the horrors on the battlefield later suffers from PTSD. The doctors come in and say he saw a horrible explosion and that is the reason he has PTSD. They will not delve into his childhood or adulthod stress or genetics, etc too much. I would like to think that we all have suffred at some point in our life from a "trauma", an incident or incidents which triggers off anxiety. Until that "trauma" is resolved we keep going round in circles. This may be an oversimplification but that is my take.
If my anxiety is due to PTSD, then they would have to go through most of my life, starting with my earliest memories. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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However I believe there is always *one* root cause. For example, a solider seeing the horrors on the battlefield later suffers from PTSD.
And the soldier right next to him sees the same horrors and does *not* develope PTSD. Therefore, the battlefield horrors are the *trigger* (and not root cause) for some latent psychological dysfunction to become manifest. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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