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Try this on for size Roger…

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I believe I told you the Trauma happened when he was 10. Time has faded your memory. He married a young  girl called Luda.  And yes, after finding the love of his life , he did grow up quick. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >BTW. Just a pleasant announcement that Stephanie’s son recently got married > >to a > >wonderful young girl in Europe. > He didn’t marry Julio????  You told us months ago that he was only 10 years > old. He sure did grow up quick!!!!! > Lu

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>BTW. Just a pleasant announcement that Stephanie’s son recently got married >to a >wonderful young girl in Europe.

He didn’t marry Julio????  You told us months ago that he was only 10 years old. He sure did grow up quick!!!!! Lu

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>The last of the low self esteem issues and therefore anger that he was >suffering

I think that the low-self-esteem and anger issues came as the result of having you for a "Mommy Dearest." That is, if you really DID have a son, which I doubt, considering you told us he was a child in your last grand performance on this ng. Lu

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>You are absolutely correct: a borderline is the sickest, most difficult type >of >patient/ person to be dealing with.

Ya think so?  I was thinking that maybe an anti-social personality disorder would be tougher, but I could be wrong. I have a DSM here – the most recent one.  I will pull it out and read (and re-read, and re-read) up on this tonight. Lu

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Dr. Scott, You seem to be more interested in Borderline Personality Disorders than I am. Why don’t you go read up. Unless of course you are a qualified Psychiatrist now in addition to the other talents you’ve displayed here, including being "Inspector Cluso" digging up information and dirt on everybody, calling everyones Server and writing complaint letters to everyones Bosses. Aren’t we a busy boy. No dam wonder you can’t hold down a full time job. Your not exactly what the Government would classify as disabled. I mean I’m sure you could get a job just advertising yourself in the news paper as a Bullshit Psychologist. Problem is, everyone would walk out of your office either Borderline Personality Disordered, Troll, or Stalker As for inflicting damage on this group Sott, I pale to you.  :) Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Want to do some interesting research??….go search the net and read up > on borderline personality disorder…then think about what happened here > over the last 24 hours.  100% textbook case of borderline.   We had a > sufferer in our local support group….she single-handedly did > unbelievable damage to the group….sound familiar ?? >                   Take care,   Scott > BarbieEnvy wrote: > > OOOOO Stephanie are you REALLY a Borderline???? Ohmygod I know all about YOU > > then!!!! You’re fucking sick!!!! You don’t know what emotions are so you > > project things onto other people so you can "feel" when they respond….. > > NOW, ng members…a Borderline cannot survive without projection screens. Don’t > > be a screen for this sick sick woman that has no life (because I KNOW anyone in > > her life has been run out of it because BPD is a sick thing to live around.) > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply:  Remove .nospam  from the above.       Scott C.   @–>–>—

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Hmmm. This is sounding more and more like a Psychologists convention. We either have 3 Psychologists here in the crowd masquerading as self diagnosed PTSD ers  or 3 people here who know what they’re talking about from having had personal expereince with  BPD. If I know of anyone who requires diagnosis for their BPD, I’ll be sure to send them here. With three Phd Psychiatrists in the group, a person will no doubt get a through analysis. You guys just kill me.  Why would anyone waste their time watching TV when this place is so entertaining.  It’s like a soap, I’m finding that I just can’t wait to get back to this group to read the next post. You know I think we have great potential here. We could turn this support group into cash for all of us. Really!! :) Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kristi Markley wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > LuanneP <luan…@aol.comet> wrote in message > news:19990621232937.01371.00003843@ng-ch1.aol.com… > > >You are absolutely correct: a borderline is the sickest, most difficult > type > > >of > > >patient/ person to be dealing with. > > Ya think so?  I was thinking that maybe an anti-social personality > disorder > > would be tougher, but I could be wrong. > > I have a DSM here – the most recent one.  I will pull it out and read (and > > re-read, and re-read) up on this tonight. > > Lu > Nope.  Borderline.

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Well said Inky, Thank You.  See Dr. Luanne it’s official. Stephanie is not Borderline. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ingrid Dekker wrote: > "Scott C." wrote: >  "C> Want to do some interesting research??….go search the net and >  "C> read up on borderline personality disorder…then think about what >  "C> happened here over the last 24 hours.  100% textbook case of >  "C> borderline.   We had a sufferer in our local support group….she >  "C> single-handedly did unbelievable damage to the group….sound >  "C> familiar ?? Take care,   Scott > Uh.. I don’t mean to sound ignorant but, AFAIK, borderline is something > inbetween clinical depressed and bi-polar.. I do know that my depressions are > too severe to qualify a borderline diagnosis but I don’t have enough > moodswings to qualify for bi-polar. So, what am I missing here? Some of my > friends are borderline but none of them comes even close to Stephanie’s > behaviour. Labeling her as being borderline in an insult to true borderline > patients, IMHO. > Bye! Inky (^_-)

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> Silent Angel, , > If you come from a well to do family as in Millionaires, then you can probably > afford an email address that does not give out your name, address, and telephone > number on the net. It’s not because you are naiive and don’t know how this is > done.

Or……….. you can register the internet account in a friends name or an alias, if it "Really"   means that much to you to keep private. Why am I sensing fabrication in your complaint to me ? Stephanie —————————————————– – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I don’t understand what your point is in the letter. First of all, I use the > > x-no-archive: yes thingee….. because of my own private personal issues. > > You see Stephanie,… I come from a very well to do, family. Several > > multimillionaires, and very well recognized. I have had to keep my life > > under wraps,… for my entire life. > > You do not understand the power nor magnitude of what my family is capable > > of. I am saying more than I should just for posting this much here. I have > > never talked about them for this very reason. I am SCARED of what happens to > > my life,… if I am discovered….. > > Thank you for successfully, causing me to be too terrified to ever try and > > post here again. > > I don’t know if I’ll be able to be back here or not after this. > > Please if any of you respond to this post,…. > > PLEASE remove my portion of this,… or use the x-no-archive: thingee. > > Another reason, is I was hoping to be able to use this forum to talk about > > things,…. and was hoping that the x-no-archive thingee would prevent my > > own child from having to some day come across and discover some of the > > atrocities I’ve endured,…. > > I am extremely angry at you Stephanie for this post. Was it necessary for > > you to do this? > > Silent Angel

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Dear Scott, I have been informed by Roger Smith that you have taken the liberty of writing an email to his boss at work complaining about Him. Really Scott, This time you’ve gone too far. I told you, I told you, I told you. I advised him to seek a legal "cash" settlement from you for harassment and defamation of character. . If it was me, I’d be pretty angry with you and I would have your ass up on the rack for this. I don’t know what Roger is going to do about it. I’m sure he’s thinking over his options and re reading your tasteless posts and character assignations. You wouldn’t consider following Roger out of this NG and apologizing would you ? Stephanie. ——————————————————————- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes >   Ahhh…our least favorite troll is back…figures, we’ve had every > other troll and spammer here this week. > Stephanie Baziuk wrote: > > > Dear Scott, > > > I’m going to take the liberty of speaking up for Roger.   I hope he doesn’t > > > take offense.  I’ll make an assumption and state that I don’t think Roger > > > Smith is interested in trying your orifice on for size any more than I was.  I > > > see you’re "still" trying to find a place for it but this news group is hardly > > > the venue for your below the belt offerings and that includes the shit that > > > occasionally spews out of your mouth from your sewer back ups. >   Roger is/was a stalker and a troll.  This has been resolved and he had > told me privately that he will not be back.  The only time I may hit > "below the belt" is with spammers and trolls.  I have taken some good > advice and try not to drag out troll threads but in my opinion they are > low-lifes and deserve to be trashed. > > > Dear Roger, I too have been "Stalking"   this newsgroup (as Scott abusively > > > describes it ) ever since the elite clique thought I was too much of a know it > > > all on the topic of PTSD.  I guess I had information to share on the topic > > > that they didn’t,  and the controlling "elite" felt threatened that their > > > power base would be eroded.  As with others, I was labeled a Troll. . Luanne > > > even went out of her way to post insulting messages about me in other news > > > groups that I frequented. Such are the controlling methods used by this > > > "elite". I am amused occasionally that they are still referring to name > > > calling me months later after my last post.  I’m truly humbled that they > > > consider me so powerful and that I have unwittingly exerted such an impact on > > > their ego’s. . >   But…ummm….you are a troll Stephanie.  You are involved in an > unbelievable number of newsgroups and have caused problems elsewhere as > well as on this group.  There was no "elite" group….the vast, vast > majority of people spoke out and tried to get you to leave.  I can’t > believe you are back here….what purpose does this serve other than > some sick desire to disrupt people who are trying to support each other. > > > Take heart Roger, some people here on this NG have more problems than just > > > PTSD to deal with. Some of are just downright manipulative, vicious and > > > controlling at any cost. This NG must be the only piece of control that > > > they’re able to exert over their entire lives, and therefore they cling to it > > > and to each other.  They make the most of it at others expense. And when there > > > is someone who threatenes their status  they resort to childish grade school > > > politics to force the individule out of the PTSD group. > > > Just rise above the trash Roger and ignore Scotts generous offers. You belong > > > here as much as anyone does. >   Yeah right….by his own admission he doesn’t have ptsd…just like > you.   Neither one of you belong here. > > > I also discovered the reasons why Scott gets so out of shape demanding that > > > everyone use the  x no archive.  This is the only news group as far as I can > > > determine that is being "manipulated" into using this at the insistence of > > > Scott and his  "controlling"  few.  The real truth is, If all of Scotts posts > > > were archived, he would be prohibited from posting on this newsgroup as his > > > posts are frequently abusive, belittling, and degrading to subscribers that > > > don’t fall into step with the view of the  members of the ruling clique. In > > > otherwords, if you don’t size up to Scotts little stick, he’ll stick you with > > > it until you say it’s not worth the aggrivation and you’ll leave. > > > The no archive is a way of hiding the frequency of Scotts abusive posts. > Haha….now I know you are nuts !!!   This one has me cracking up… > Ask others about the archives….many people have very serious and legit > reasons for avoiding being archived.  I only do it to avoid spammers… > You really amaze me… > > > Those of you who are pleasant, interested in having intelligent interraction > > > and do not have Psychological issues with  Paranoia, or have nothing to hide, > > > do not need to use the x no archive when replying to postings.  Anyone who has > > > anything to hide should be taking their issues up privately with their > > > therapists or corresponding through private emails with one another.  This NG > > > is for learning and sharing about PTSD and solving emotional issues relating > > > to PTSD.  The more people who have access to the information we provide here > > > and problems we share in this Newsgroup the sooner Psychiatrists, and > > > Psychologists and researchers can find solutions so that others who walk in > > > our shoes can be spared the pain we’ve had to endure in expereincing Trauma. > > > "Trauma" is not an "exclusive" club affair. > > > In future, if anyone feels that Scott’s or Luannes posts are demeaning, > > > belittling, or outright rude and personally insulting, copy them and make them > > > available for everyone to read "with out"  the x no archive. .  anyone who is > > > rude, controlling, belittling and degrading, deserves recognition. > > > Stephanie > > > —————————————————– >   OK Steph….you spewed your psycho-babble…now get lost….  I will > not respond to you again….you have re-entered my invisible troll zone. > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply:  Remove .nospam  from the above.       Scott C.   @–>–>—

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear Scott, > I’m going to take the liberty of speaking up for Roger.   I hope he doesn’t > take offense.  I’ll make an assumption and state that I don’t think Roger > Smith is interested in trying your orifice on for size any more than I was.  I > see you’re "still" trying to find a place for it but this news group is hardly > the venue for your below the belt offerings and that includes the shit that > occasionally spews out of your mouth from your sewer back ups. > Dear Roger, I too have been "Stalking"   this newsgroup (as Scott abusively > describes it ) ever since the elite clique thought I was too much of a know it > all on the topic of PTSD.  I guess I had information to share on the topic > that they didn’t,  and the controlling "elite" felt threatened that their > power base would be eroded.  As with others, I was labeled a Troll. . Luanne > even went out of her way to post insulting messages about me in other news > groups that I frequented. Such are the controlling methods used by this > "elite". I am amused occasionally that they are still referring to name > calling me months later after my last post.  I’m truly humbled that they > consider me so powerful and that I have unwittingly exerted such an impact on > their ego’s. . > Take heart Roger, some people here on this NG have more problems than just > PTSD to deal with. Some of are just downright manipulative, vicious and > controlling at any cost. This NG must be the only piece of control that > they’re able to exert over their entire lives, and therefore they cling to it > and to each other.  They make the most of it at others expense. And when there > is someone who threatenes their status  they resort to childish grade school > politics to force the individule out of the PTSD group. > Just rise above the trash Roger and ignore Scotts generous offers. You belong > here as much as anyone does. > I also discovered the reasons why Scott gets so out of shape demanding that > everyone use the  x no archive.  This is the only news group as far as I can > determine that is being "manipulated" into using this at the insistence of > Scott and his  "controlling"  few.  The real truth is, If all of Scotts posts > were archived, he would be prohibited from posting on this newsgroup as his > posts are frequently abusive, belittling, and degrading to subscribers that > don’t fall into step with the view of the  members of the ruling clique. In > otherwords, if you don’t size up to Scotts little stick, he’ll stick you with > it until you say it’s not worth the aggrivation and you’ll leave. > The no archive is a way of hiding the frequency of Scotts abusive posts. > Those of you who are pleasant, interested in having intelligent interraction > and do not have Psychological issues with  Paranoia, or have nothing to hide, > do not need to use the x no archive when replying to postings.  Anyone who has > anything to hide should be taking their issues up privately with their > therapists or corresponding through private emails with one another.  This NG > is for learning and sharing about PTSD and solving emotional issues relating > to PTSD.  The more people who have access to the information we provide here > and problems we share in this Newsgroup the sooner Psychiatrists, and > Psychologists and researchers can find solutions so that others who walk in > our shoes can be spared the pain we’ve had to endure in expereincing Trauma. > "Trauma" is not an "exclusive" club affair. > In future, if anyone feels that Scott’s or Luannes posts are demeaning, > belittling, or outright rude and personally insulting, copy them and make them > available for everyone to read "with out"  the x no archive. .  anyone who is > rude, controlling, belittling and degrading, deserves recognition. > Stephanie > —————————————————– > Roger Smith wrote: >> In article <376A6189.6…@borg.com>, sccar…@borg.com wrote: >> >x-no-archive: yes >> >  Gee…I’ll bet that between the complaint made to his isp, and the one >> >made directly to his boss at work, our stalker/troll will be too busy >> >explaining himself to bother Lu or the ng anymore. >> >                              Stalkers suck,    Scott >> No, I haven’t been posting here because I have had other REAL work to do. >> During the time that I have ‘been away’ it has got me the think about what a >> waste of time it is to post messages in this group if you are not in the >> elite clique.  I came here and tried to rationally state my opinion and >> reasons for an action I took against one of your group.  I got ignored, >> ridiculed, called names and more.  I guess it is hard to look at things >> objectively here.  Therefore, I will not be POSTING here anymore.  Though I >> do >> still like to read the messages. >> See ya!  Have good lives! >> Roger

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What is a borderline Barbie ? You sound like your talking from experience when you say they are sick to live around ? Are you a psychologist or psychiatrist ?  It sounds like your very knowledgeable at any rate. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -BarbieEnvy wrote: > OOOOO Stephanie are you REALLY a Borderline???? Ohmygod I know all about YOU > then!!!! You’re fucking sick!!!! You don’t know what emotions are so you > project things onto other people so you can "feel" when they respond….. > NOW, ng members…a Borderline cannot survive without projection screens. Don’t > be a screen for this sick sick woman that has no life (because I KNOW anyone in > her life has been run out of it because BPD is a sick thing to live around.)

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BTW. Just a pleasant announcement that Stephanie’s son recently got married to a wonderful young girl in Europe. The last of the low self esteem issues and therefore anger that he was suffering with as a result of his long ago School Yard Trauma have disappeared with the love and acceptance of this young beautiful woman. Just goes to show that in the end, love conquers all. Now Stephanie gets kisses and hugs everyday from #1 and the displaced anger associated with the Trauma has dissipated.  Thank God for Love. . If I could give you a good shot of Love Luanne, you’d be hugging me and Reneee everyday as well. You’d be a much more pleasant person if you were powered by love instead of by anger. Were you aware Luanne that: Where there’s no love, there’s always anger.  People become very angry when they’re unable to experience love, when their ability to give and receive love is blocked. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >OOOOO Stephanie are you REALLY a Borderline???? > She’s not anything…Borderline, PTSD – nothing.  She is a TROLL.  She did > claim that her son got beat up on the schoolyard and possibly had PTSD from it. >  Him….I wonder if he was the one that Paul Simon talked about in "Me and > Julio Down by the Schoolyard?’ > Anway….she’s full of shit. > Luanne

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>OOOOO Stephanie are you REALLY a Borderline????

She’s not anything…Borderline, PTSD – nothing.  She is a TROLL.  She did claim that her son got beat up on the schoolyard and possibly had PTSD from it.  Him….I wonder if he was the one that Paul Simon talked about in "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard?’ Anway….she’s full of shit. Luanne

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OOOOO Stephanie are you REALLY a Borderline???? Ohmygod I know all about YOU then!!!! You’re fucking sick!!!! You don’t know what emotions are so you project things onto other people so you can "feel" when they respond….. NOW, ng members…a Borderline cannot survive without projection screens. Don’t be a screen for this sick sick woman that has no life (because I KNOW anyone in her life has been run out of it because BPD is a sick thing to live around.)

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>From: Stephanie Baziuk <stepha…@powersurfr.com> >Date: Sun, 20 June 1999 07:31 PM EDT >Message-id: <376D79D4.6544F…@powersurfr.com> >> Dear Scott, >> I’m going to take the liberty of speaking up for Roger.   I hope he doesn’t >> take offense.  I’ll make an assumption and state that I don’t think Roger >> Smith is interested in trying your orifice on for size any more than I was. >I

OH MY GOD!!!  The troll of trolls is BACK!!!!!! Why does she continue to spew her shit in here when she knows how unwelcome she is?  It’s way beyond me….. Lu

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>Her post is upsetting, as she well knows. >I do not usually respond to trolls, as most of you know by now.

Do you remember this troll, Gay Marie?  Scott ran her off a few months back. Her ‘husband’ took it upon himself to post here last week, and now she is back.  I think that her husband was ‘her.’ Lu

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>you to keep private. >Why am I sensing fabrication in your complaint to me ?

Take you smelly stinky carcass back to alt.marriage where it belongs or one of the other one-hundred newsgroups you post to.  Anyplace but here.  You torment all of us to NO END.  Can’t wait till Scott sees that you’re back…… Lu

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>I advised him to seek a legal "cash" settlement from you for harassment and >defamation >of character. . If it was me, I’d be pretty angry with you and I would have >your ass >up on the rack for this. I don’t know what Roger is going to do about it. I’m >sure >he’s thinking over his options and re reading your tasteless posts and >character >assignations. >You wouldn’t consider following Roger out of this NG and apologizing would >you ?

Gee, Scott….Stephanie is stalking us on here.  Isn’t there something that we can do legally for that?   I am going to phone my attorney tomorrow and see what he says.  I think you can to to your DA and complain. Lu

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You Scott have no right to pursue and exploit people past this newsgroup. You had no right to contact Rogers Boss or get his place of work involved in any manner, with any issues that are private in this Newsgroup. Just who do you think you are that you feel you have the right to do that ? Who do you think you are that you think you have the right to call people "Stalkers" publicly or name call anyone at all because they don’t  confrom to your stupid made up rules on the Net. I think it’s time someone blew the whistle on you to your server. How dare you contact someone’s place of work with vicious malice!!! How bloody dare you!!! Your activities on this newsgroup need to be curtailed. You are not only a danger to others welfare but to yourself. I’m witness to the fact that you publicly called Roger Smith a Stalker and so are your many emails witness to the fact that you went out of your way to do him malicious harm by contacting his Boss at work therefore jeopardizing his livelihood. . I think you’re over due for a Psychiatric evaluation or a lawsuit. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Yeah Lu, I’m working on some things too.  In the interim, I suggest that > people forward her messages to her isp…it won’t be the first one that > was cancelled. > In terms of Roger….yep, I contacted his boss.  I’m not remotely > worried about my actions…I didn’t tell his boss about the messages > sent from the county e-mail server and on county time…that would be a > problem for Roger.  I don’t want his job…I wanted him gone and he > left. >                          Take care,  Scott > LuanneP wrote: > > >I advised him to seek a legal "cash" settlement from you for harassment and > > >defamation > > >of character. . If it was me, I’d be pretty angry with you and I would have > > >your ass > > >up on the rack for this. I don’t know what Roger is going to do about it. I’m > > >sure > > >he’s thinking over his options and re reading your tasteless posts and > > >character > > >assignations. > > >You wouldn’t consider following Roger out of this NG and apologizing would > > >you ? > > Gee, Scott….Stephanie is stalking us on here.  Isn’t there something that we > > can do legally for that? > > I am going to phone my attorney tomorrow and see what he says.  I think you can > > to to your DA and complain. > > Lu > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply:  Remove .nospam  from the above.       Scott C.   @–>–>—

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>During the time that I have ‘been away’ it has got me the think about what a >waste of time it is to post messages in this group if you are not in the >elite clique.

Yeah Rog…..this place is definitely for us sufferers of PTSD.  We sorta hate it when somebody gets on our turf.  It’s our own little corner of the Net and even though many others do read this, we need contact with other PTSD sufferers.  We’re the only ones who truly understand each other.  This illness or disorder….whatever the hell it is, is something I would NEVER wish on my worst enemy.  We tend to defend each other on here to the very end, especially to an outsider who does not have PTSD, or somebody that ‘claims to have it, but doesn’t.’ Lu

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>You know Roger, you just convinced me that you ARE a judgmental person,….. >I feel sorry for you….. How DARE you call the members of this group less >than any other.

More words of wisdom from Silent Angel!!! Nobody understands us sufferers except ourselves.  Perhaps Roger might want to walk in ONE of our shoes for ONE day….nah, wouldn’t want that to happen to ANYONE!!! Lu

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> "Have good lives" !!…you couldn’t handle our lives you sick idiot. >Lu’s my friend and I take care of friends…you picked the wrong place >to screw around Roger.  

Scott, I don’t think he’ll be posting any longer but maybe still reading.  I do think that MANY read this newsgroup – doctors, health professionals, students, etc…, either ‘working on term papers’ or just trying to ’study us lab rats.’ My feeling is that they aren’t gonna learn a DAMN thing here.  Only folks that understand people with PTSD are OTHER people with PTSD.  One of my dear friends here in San Diego is also affected. She fights with her neighbors about noise, as do I.  We’ve been GOOD FRIENDS for 4 years now…never had a fight.  We UNDERSTAND each other perfectly. I’ve often said, if some of these ‘tightly wrapped normies’ could get inside our heads, they’d piss their pants!! You’re my friend, too. Best, Lu

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