Question:
D <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in news:n3rqqvkoaiuq93usbl3rlp1s13ppa7v0s1@ 4ax.com: > You should call the newspapers!!
really ???
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On 8 Nov 2003 22:44:30 GMT, Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote: >D <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in news:n3rqqvkoaiuq93usbl3rlp1s13ppa7v0s1@ >4ax.com: >> You should call the newspapers!! >really ???
Absolutely! You weren’t even suicidal and look what they did to you. I’d have their lame asses on the 5:00 news! D
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nope nope and nope, they were within their rights. They could loose their licence if she was really sucidal and offed herself. If there is even a chance of sucide you get comitted for 72 hours no matter what then depending on your behaviour they either extend it to an automatic two weeks and keep going I had a 3 month stint quite a few times. And with veronika reacting vipolently they were sure they were right. Been there done that. Crackwalker "D" <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in message
news:sosqqvsc00l2udgokvqgtd9t4a4eao0p1g@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 8 Nov 2003 22:44:30 GMT, Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >D <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in news:n3rqqvkoaiuq93usbl3rlp1s13ppa7v0s1@ > >4ax.com: > >> You should call the newspapers!! > >really ??? > Absolutely! You weren’t even suicidal and look what they did to you. > I’d have their lame asses on the 5:00 news! > D
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hi V re3ad my post to D on this one. I am wondering how far off the mark I am? Let me know. Crackwalker "Veronika" <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bojrii$1epjdk$1@ID-144771.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:boj8ok$1dd8vd$1@ID- > 144771.news.uni-berlin.de: > > (lol .. they so funny with their deal … I’m not sure > > they realize that my desire to live, at this time, was stronger then > > everything to could do to me > yep .. I have learned by my father that they told him I was one of the > hardest they ever had to deal with lol! and I didn’t even hit them > Wow .. that’s quite a compliment! That’s because they never saw there > someone that wanted to live like I did !!! > Well .. I’m amazed by myself (I think that’s one of the first time in my > life I’m really proud) I can’t believe after what happen to me this week > that i’m not crushed (and no PTSD) Wow 
> However, there’s still some problems like the fact that I can’t trust > anyone at this hospital anymore. If I were to brake my leg I think they > would send me to psych because they would think I was trying to kill > myself :S I’m a bit nervous about that. (because the other hospital is > 1hr away) I mean Gosh! Did you read what happen ? > Then .. when I see ambulances and police’s cars I remember what happen > ..well Yesterday! However I think that’s perfectly alright .. when I > think about all of this, I can remember people who lived what they would > call a "trauma" (and what I would call NOTHING) and they took a month (or > years) to get over it > and me .. I’m already functioning after 1 day .. I think I need to be > patient the little stress about ambulances and police’s cars and my > newly found(created would be more appropriate) paranoia about this > hospital > Monday I intent to contact the CMQ, which is the organization that deals > with lawsuit against doctors. I believe I have strong arguments to prove > that the doctor (the one that sent me to the psych. unit) was negligent. > She didn’t follow any protocol! She did no physical exam and the worst > of all ! if she had the impression that I was dangerous for myself (which > my pdoc told me) She can’t act on this impression alone. There’s a > series of questions that need to be asked before sending someone to the > psych. unit. Sending someone to an isolation room is very serious!! We > are not taking about sending someone the Disney’s land here! Because > she skipped all the protocols and didn’t ask me anything, I got injured > (both physically and emotionally) She was careless and she needs to > answer for her behavior. That probably will bring me nothing (or just > the satisfaction to know that I tried to do something).. but if I can > help prevent another tragedy like this : I will ! > I would like your comments on everything (my experience, the doctor’s > behavior, everything!) > Have a nice evening everyone
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"crackwalker" <crackwalk…@lycos.com> wrote in news:pEerb.10976$Pg1.625564 @news20.bellglobal.com: > nope nope and nope, they were within their rights.
no no … not after I was in the psych. unit (it’s inhuman but "legal") I’m talking about the doctor that sent me to the pysch. unit in the first place (and I was at the hospital for blood pressure or who knows what but unrelated to depression ! ) even a so called normal human being would have panicked after being sent to the psych unit for a broken leg ! Because my mind couldn’t deal with the fact that they would send a normal person to an isolation room (in this case me) I have blown a fuse it’s clear I’m not denying it I don’t know a lot of person who wouldn’t have As for the "intensity" (which is …let’s say … a LOT more than the average human being) of what happen in my case … well this is related to the fact that if I’m stranded my "impulse-control" problem become unmanageable (you can know that by the strength I have shown, which is directly related to the adrenaline produced by my brain. Adrenaline inhibits reason (our the rational part of the brain if you prefer) Everyone knows that! And I know that my extremely high level of adrenaline in this situation comes from my mother’s side .. our brains do produce more adrenaline then other people with a different dna I have worked hard to be more in control. I knew/knew I have to. I did a lot of progress the past couple of month. However, being sent to the psych. unit when I was perfectly healthy was simply TOO MUCH for me (and everyone that knows this story are appalled)
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Oh Lordy Mamma! I guess we’ll be buying Veronika a cattle prod to carry around with her :-) Thanks for the info…as always, you are well informed and truly full of knowledge 
Peace, D On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:04:58 -0500, "crackwalker" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<crackwalk…@lycos.com> wrote: >nope nope and nope, they were within their rights. They could loose their >licence if she was really sucidal and offed herself. If there is even a >chance of sucide you get comitted for 72 hours no matter what then depending >on your behaviour they either extend it to an automatic two weeks and keep >going I had a 3 month stint quite a few times. And with veronika reacting >vipolently they were sure they were right. >Been there done that. >Crackwalker >"D" <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in message >news:sosqqvsc00l2udgokvqgtd9t4a4eao0p1g@4ax.com… >> On 8 Nov 2003 22:44:30 GMT, Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >D <spamme…@toidy.com> wrote in news:n3rqqvkoaiuq93usbl3rlp1s13ppa7v0s1@ >> >4ax.com: >> >> You should call the newspapers!! >> >really ??? >> Absolutely! You weren’t even suicidal and look what they did to you. >> I’d have their lame asses on the 5:00 news! >> D
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i would think at the very least that doc should be in trouble for not followng up on the feinting. they could have caused seroius damage by inducing further stress. t "Veronika" <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bojrii$1epjdk$1@ID-144771.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:boj8ok$1dd8vd$1@ID- > 144771.news.uni-berlin.de: > > (lol .. they so funny with their deal … I’m not sure > > they realize that my desire to live, at this time, was stronger then > > everything to could do to me > yep .. I have learned by my father that they told him I was one of the > hardest they ever had to deal with lol! and I didn’t even hit them > Wow .. that’s quite a compliment! That’s because they never saw there > someone that wanted to live like I did !!! > Well .. I’m amazed by myself (I think that’s one of the first time in my > life I’m really proud) I can’t believe after what happen to me this week > that i’m not crushed (and no PTSD) Wow > However, there’s still some problems like the fact that I can’t trust > anyone at this hospital anymore. If I were to brake my leg I think they > would send me to psych because they would think I was trying to kill > myself :S I’m a bit nervous about that. (because the other hospital is > 1hr away) I mean Gosh! Did you read what happen ? > Then .. when I see ambulances and police’s cars I remember what happen > ..well Yesterday! However I think that’s perfectly alright .. when I > think about all of this, I can remember people who lived what they would > call a "trauma" (and what I would call NOTHING) and they took a month (or > years) to get over it > and me .. I’m already functioning after 1 day .. I think I need to be > patient the little stress about ambulances and police’s cars and my > newly found(created would be more appropriate) paranoia about this > hospital > Monday I intent to contact the CMQ, which is the organization that deals > with lawsuit against doctors. I believe I have strong arguments to prove > that the doctor (the one that sent me to the psych. unit) was negligent. > She didn’t follow any protocol! She did no physical exam and the worst > of all ! if she had the impression that I was dangerous for myself (which > my pdoc told me) She can’t act on this impression alone. There’s a > series of questions that need to be asked before sending someone to the > psych. unit. Sending someone to an isolation room is very serious!! We > are not taking about sending someone the Disney’s land here! Because > she skipped all the protocols and didn’t ask me anything, I got injured > (both physically and emotionally) She was careless and she needs to > answer for her behavior. That probably will bring me nothing (or just > the satisfaction to know that I tried to do something).. but if I can > help prevent another tragedy like this : I will ! > I would like your comments on everything (my experience, the doctor’s > behavior, everything!) > Have a nice evening everyone
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different topic but very similar….. i drive 200 miles every week to see my shrink. i always hang out at a coffee shop until i am sure i can drive safely. that doesnt mean i always obey the speed limit lol. ast week i was coming ome and got pulled over for going 11miles over. its 70 during the day and 65 at night……i was going 76. (interstate). thin is it was’day’ when i started back and i set the cruise….cop and i disagreed n when ‘night’ starts…lol. since i still have out of state plates, he was even more nosey thanthey usually are. i was fine but irritated (only about 45 miles from home) so when he asked me where i was coming from i said ’seeng my hrnk’. i KNOW better but i was mad. he wanted me to gett out of the car and ‘talk a little’. i knew if i got out i might not get back in so i said i woud rather not but we culd talk thrugh the pass. window. he walked away and 10 mins l8r i had a $145 ticket. he proby wouldve only given me a warning if i had gotten out, but i didnt antto chance it. sometimes they jump to the wong cnclusions t "Veronika" <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bojrii$1epjdk$1@ID-144771.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Veronika <veronikalind…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:boj8ok$1dd8vd$1@ID- > 144771.news.uni-berlin.de: > > (lol .. they so funny with their deal … I’m not sure > > they realize that my desire to live, at this time, was stronger then > > everything to could do to me > yep .. I have learned by my father that they told him I was one of the > hardest they ever had to deal with lol! and I didn’t even hit them > Wow .. that’s quite a compliment! That’s because they never saw there > someone that wanted to live like I did !!! > Well .. I’m amazed by myself (I think that’s one of the first time in my > life I’m really proud) I can’t believe after what happen to me this week > that i’m not crushed (and no PTSD) Wow > However, there’s still some problems like the fact that I can’t trust > anyone at this hospital anymore. If I were to brake my leg I think they > would send me to psych because they would think I was trying to kill > myself :S I’m a bit nervous about that. (because the other hospital is > 1hr away) I mean Gosh! Did you read what happen ? > Then .. when I see ambulances and police’s cars I remember what happen > ..well Yesterday! However I think that’s perfectly alright .. when I > think about all of this, I can remember people who lived what they would > call a "trauma" (and what I would call NOTHING) and they took a month (or > years) to get over it > and me .. I’m already functioning after 1 day .. I think I need to be > patient the little stress about ambulances and police’s cars and my > newly found(created would be more appropriate) paranoia about this > hospital > Monday I intent to contact the CMQ, which is the organization that deals > with lawsuit against doctors. I believe I have strong arguments to prove > that the doctor (the one that sent me to the psych. unit) was negligent. > She didn’t follow any protocol! She did no physical exam and the worst > of all ! if she had the impression that I was dangerous for myself (which > my pdoc told me) She can’t act on this impression alone. There’s a > series of questions that need to be asked before sending someone to the > psych. unit. Sending someone to an isolation room is very serious!! We > are not taking about sending someone the Disney’s land here! Because > she skipped all the protocols and didn’t ask me anything, I got injured > (both physically and emotionally) She was careless and she needs to > answer for her behavior. That probably will bring me nothing (or just > the satisfaction to know that I tried to do something).. but if I can > help prevent another tragedy like this : I will ! > I would like your comments on everything (my experience, the doctor’s > behavior, everything!) > Have a nice evening everyone
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