Trauma – PTSD

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one thing that helped calm down, slow down and even stopped some of my ptsd was finding something that was the opposite of the trauma that caused my ptsd.  I know this probably sounds a little nutso but I’m telling ya…..it worked! Example: one of the trauma’s that I lived thru was a trip that literally ended in hell.  I needed to find something that would balance that trauma and the first thing I thought of was going to church. (please don’t misunderstand me here…..I’m NOT preaching to anyone!!)  But the results were unbelieveable. See, I hadn’t been to church in years and years but just that one visit calmed things down.  That part of my many life’s trauma’s has even ended now.  I can think about it without being throw into nowhere’s land again. I am a survivor of childhood incest, prostitution, physical trauma, emotional abuse and a few other things that I won’t get into.  All that led me into a nightmare of a marriage that lasted way to long.  And it is true….with all my truama, I countered with something that was opposite and I found that the opposite (which is a GOOD thing) has made almost all my ptsd stop dead in its track. I hope someone here tries this and if it works for them, too, please let me know.  One of the laws of the universe is that for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. And it worked!  And other thing I found was that this good opposite that I went looking for was 1000 times stronger then the shit I lived thru. Donna

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Hi Donna! > one thing that helped calm down, slow down and even > stopped some of my ptsd was finding something that was > the opposite of the trauma that caused my ptsd.  I know > this probably sounds a little nutso but I’m telling ya…..it worked!

I am glad that this technique worked for you. For me, the technique that worked the best was to do things that I was not ‘permitted’ to do; they were labelled as ‘beneath me and my education’.  So now I ‘work’ in the nursury business, with my hands in the dirt!  And, the peaceful change in my body is significant when I am working in the soil. As always, YMMV Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy

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Nancy <kipc…@msn.com> wrote in news:v4G2c.46285$TT5.17726@lakeread06: > For me, the technique that worked the best was to do things that I was > not ‘permitted’ to do; they were labelled as ‘beneath me and my > education’.  So now I ‘work’ in the nursury business, with my hands in > the dirt!  And, the peaceful change in my body is significant when I am > working in the soil.

That’s not as silly a cure as it sounds. It’s very cathartic to get out and get your hands dirty and plant and weed etc. Did a bit of gardening today, actually. Pulled out all the old Rocket plants and put Bush Tomatos in their place. I just hate getting the dirt under my fingernails!! — Peter Lucas                             Brisbane                                 Australia       ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten- pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten

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"Nancy" <kipc…@msn.com> wrote in message

news:v4G2c.46285$TT5.17726@lakeread06… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Donna! > > one thing that helped calm down, slow down and even > > stopped some of my ptsd was finding something that was > > the opposite of the trauma that caused my ptsd.  I know > > this probably sounds a little nutso but I’m telling ya…..it worked! > I am glad that this technique worked for you. > For me, the technique that worked the best was to do things that I was > not ‘permitted’ to do; they were labelled as ‘beneath me and my > education’.  So now I ‘work’ in the nursury business, with my hands in > the dirt!  And, the peaceful change in my body is significant when I am > working in the soil. > As always, YMMV > Smile and there will be something to smile about! > Nancy

Well for me it was furniture refinishing.  ;)   I love to find an old piece of furniture that looks really bad, strip it down to virgin wood, sand it and stain it and varnish it and see how truly beautiful it comes out. Although I haven’t done that lately because it’s rather hard on the back, and my back hasn’t been well enough lately to tackle those sorts of projects.  Now it would be working out with weights and weight machines. td

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Hey Tiny! >Well for me it was furniture refinishing.  ;)   I love to find an old piece >of furniture that looks really bad, strip it down to virgin wood, sand it >and stain it and varnish it and see how truly beautiful it comes out.

I’ve got some living room shelves and cupboards that could use your help. I found brass knobs on the doors, so far. >Although I haven’t done that lately because it’s rather hard on the back, >and my back hasn’t been well enough lately to tackle those sorts of >projects.

Rats! LOL Risa A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

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"RisaCaitlin" <risacait…@aol.comment> wrote in message

news:20040307113608.03003.00000798@mb-m15.aol.com… > Hey Tiny! > >Well for me it was furniture refinishing.  ;)   I love to find an old piece > >of furniture that looks really bad, strip it down to virgin wood, sand it > >and stain it and varnish it and see how truly beautiful it comes out. > I’ve got some living room shelves and cupboards that could use your help. I > found brass knobs on the doors, so far.

Hi Risa! Well, I can talk ya through it anyway.  ;)   Just screw those brass knobs off, and start with the paint and varnish remover.  It’s like magic, layer after layer.  Once I did an old bed, got it down to the bare wood, but the wood was still a reddish color that I didn’t like at all.  Not a pretty reddish color like cherry, but just a yucky reddish color.  So I called and talked to a guy at a hardware type store here, and he advised me to use household bleach, clorox.  So that’s what I did.  I bleached that redness out of the wood.  It was a long and tedious project, and the bleach really opens up the pores of the wood.  I needed to do a lot of post-bleaching sanding.  But the bed came out beautiful.  I bought it for 25 bucks at a flea market.  That is what is the most fun, bringing home a really yucky looking thing and having it come out so beautiful.  Some things I’d scrape layer after layer of paint off, and get down to the wood and wonder ‘why in the world anyone painted it in the first place.’ td – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Although I haven’t done that lately because it’s rather hard on the back, > >and my back hasn’t been well enough lately to tackle those sorts of > >projects. > Rats! LOL > Risa > A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

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Hi Donna, Whatever works for you is wonderful in that it does help with the healing, keep in mind that we’re all different and what works for one person is no less valid just because it doesn’t or hasn’t been tried by another. : ) Z55 "RisaCaitlin" <risacait…@aol.comment> wrote in message

news:20040307113608.03003.00000798@mb-m15.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Tiny! > >Well for me it was furniture refinishing.  ;)   I love to find an old piece > >of furniture that looks really bad, strip it down to virgin wood, sand it > >and stain it and varnish it and see how truly beautiful it comes out. > I’ve got some living room shelves and cupboards that could use your help. I > found brass knobs on the doors, so far. > >Although I haven’t done that lately because it’s rather hard on the back, > >and my back hasn’t been well enough lately to tackle those sorts of > >projects. > Rats! LOL > Risa > A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

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Hi Nancy! Yesterday I planted tulip bulbs and worked out in the yard just a little as I’m trying to give this ol’ back a rest.  Last year I planted my first garden and it was a thrill to have fresh tomatos that taste like tomatos! Z55 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> For me, the technique that worked the best was to do things that I was > not ‘permitted’ to do; they were labelled as ‘beneath me and my > education’.  So now I ‘work’ in the nursury business, with my hands in > the dirt!  And, the peaceful change in my body is significant when I am > working in the soil. > As always, YMMV > Smile and there will be something to smile about! > Nancy

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Hi Z55! > Yesterday I planted tulip bulbs and worked out in the yard just a > little as I’m trying to give this ol’ back a rest.  Last year I > planted my first garden and it was a thrill to have fresh tomatos that > taste like tomatos!

It’s a little late to be planting tulip bulbs unless you are waaaaay down south and just took them out of the freezer. I don’t do tulips … up here you could call it ‘planting squirrel food’.   If they make it the first year, they are eaten by the second. I do daffodils.  They come up a little earlier, but are not eaten by anything I’ve found around here.  Yellow, too. Veggies have no been where I’ve been, but, maybe this year.  Last year I planted some (I think:) sage, rosemary and rhubarb because they were all supposed to be perennials.  Maybe I can interplant some annuals this year. Heck, there’s no reason to strain your back.  I’ve been known to scoot around on my bottom, or just ’sit and look’ for extended periods of time.  As my therapist said, gardening for therapy is supposed to be restful and fun … not work! YMMV Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy

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Hi Nancy!!! > It’s a little late to be planting tulip bulbs unless you are waaaaay down > south and just took them out of the freezer.

Yea, I know it’s late, but I planted them at a friends’ some months ago and then when I got the rest home I put them down and *lost* them.  Just found them in a paper bag in the garage that was hiding behind the motorcycle! Little green sprouts were coming out of the bulb so I figured at least I’d stick them in the ground and see what happens! > I don’t do tulips … up here you could call it ‘planting squirrel food’. > If they make it the first year, they are eaten by the second. > I do daffodils.  They come up a little earlier, but are not eaten by > anything I’ve found around here.  Yellow, too.

I’ve got daffodils, they were the the second kind of bulb I planted once I found out that bulbs do just fine on their own pretty much, long as the critters don’t make a salad of them! > Veggies have no been where I’ve been, but, maybe this year.  Last year I > planted some (I think:) sage, rosemary and rhubarb because they were all > supposed to be perennials.  Maybe I can interplant some annuals this > year. > Heck, there’s no reason to strain your back.  I’ve been known to scoot > around on my bottom, or just ’sit and look’ for extended periods of time. >  As my therapist said, gardening for therapy is supposed to be restful > and fun … not work!

Oh yes, I just "sit and look" : )  It’s like a form of meditation.  I strain my back by moving dirt/lumber/bricks/etc. around : (    Just haven’t learned to give it a rest.  I think that they ought to make scootin’ pants, I wear out the seat and knees too fast! Z55 Z55

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Hi td! > Well for me it was furniture refinishing.  ;)   I love to find an old piece > of furniture that looks really bad, strip it down to virgin wood, sand it > and stain it and varnish it and see how truly beautiful it comes out. > Although I haven’t done that lately because it’s rather hard on the back, > and my back hasn’t been well enough lately to tackle those sorts of > projects.  Now it would be working out with weights and weight machines. > td

I did a dresser, took off about six coats of different coloured paint to get it to the wood.  Put new bottoms in it and new handles – still have it now. I also can’t understand how someone could cover up wood with coats of paint, it’s so beautiful naturally.  I don’t do furniture much either because of the size and weight.  I do like to do small sculptural pieces with it, and I recycle wood as much as possible. Z55

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Tiny, >Well, I can talk ya through it anyway.  ;)

Oh, I already know how, I just don’t want to do it myself. I’ve got this great, odor free, pet safe stuff that works well. Just glop it on and wait for it to change color. Then scrape it off and Voila! (Unless you have more than 5 layers of paint, etc. Then you repeat before the Voila!) >Some things I’d scrape >layer after layer of paint off, and get down to the wood and wonder ‘why in >the world anyone painted it in the first place.’

People do some terribly cruel things to wonderful furniture, don’t they? Risa A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

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Hi Risa, > Oh, I already know how, I just don’t want to do it myself. I’ve got this great, > odor free, pet safe stuff that works well. Just glop it on and wait for it to > change color. Then scrape it off and Voila! (Unless you have more than 5 layers > of paint, etc. Then you repeat before the Voila!)

Pardon me for jumping in here, if you don’t mind me asking, what’s the odor free pet safe stuff you use? > People do some terribly cruel things to wonderful furniture, don’t they?

Unbelieveable what they’ll put on beautiful wood!!!!!!!!!!! > Risa > A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

Best, Z55

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Hi Nancy! > Doubtful if you will get many flowers this year, but if you let them be > until the leaves turn brown, with a little fertilizer and water during > the green leaf stage, they just might come back next spring.

Thanks!  By the time they’ll be due in next spring, they’ll be a surprise to me ; ) > > Oh yes, I just "sit and look" : )  It’s like a form of meditation.  I > > strain my back by moving dirt/lumber/bricks/etc. around : ( > Are you imitating the Hulk?  :)

Welllllllll, probably more like King Kong…….. just out there monkeyin’ ’round! ; ) > I have seen gardening pants made with insert pockets for knee pads; > sorry, I cannot remember where.  Never saw insert pockets for rump pads, > tho.  :/

Guess I’ll have to find a belt and strap a pillow to my hiney! > Smile and there will be something to smile about! > Nancy

Yesterday I found an Australian Hop Seed Bush baby sprouting that I potted. We have several along the back fence and I didn’t know that they would make any babies anywhere.  Little cutie.  The biggest one beside the compost is doing the best…….. of course! Z55

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Nancy <kipc…@msn.com> wrote in news:r6R2c.47236$TT5.31897@lakeread06: >> Just haven’t learned to give it a rest.  I think that they ought to >> make scootin’ pants, I wear out the seat and knees too fast! > I have seen gardening pants made with insert pockets for knee pads; > sorry, I cannot remember where.  

I use a couple of strap on rubber knee pads. saves the knees and the pants >Never saw insert pockets for rump pads, > tho.  :/

Most of us probably have enough padding there anyway ;-P — Peter Lucas                             Brisbane                                 Australia       ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten- pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten

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Z55 asked: >Pardon me for jumping in here, if you don’t mind me asking, what’s the odor >free pet safe stuff you use?

(I should have said it’s not toxic to pets, though the company recommends precautions should be taken. It’s not poisonous.) It’s called Ready-Strip from a company called Back to Nature Products Co., Englishtown, NJ phone: 732-792-2001 I had to have a local paint company order it for me. They were so impressed, they now carry it instead of some of the more toxic strippers. Make sure you follow the instructions on the bucket. The stuff is very strong. Risa A day without paronomasia is like a day without punshine.

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Hi Z55! >> It’s a little late to be planting tulip bulbs unless you are waaaaay >> down south and just took them out of the freezer. > Yea, I know it’s late, but I planted them at a friends’ some months > ago and then when I got the rest home I put them down and *lost* them. >  Just found them in a paper bag in the garage that was hiding behind > the motorcycle! Little green sprouts were coming out of the bulb so I > figured at least I’d stick them in the ground and see what happens!

Doubtful if you will get many flowers this year, but if you let them be until the leaves turn brown, with a little fertilizer and water during the green leaf stage, they just might come back next spring. >>  As my therapist said, gardening for therapy is supposed to be >> :restful >> and fun … not work! > Oh yes, I just "sit and look" : )  It’s like a form of meditation.  I > strain my back by moving dirt/lumber/bricks/etc. around : (

Are you imitating the Hulk?  :) > Just haven’t learned to give it a rest.  I think that they ought to > make scootin’ pants, I wear out the seat and knees too fast!

I have seen gardening pants made with insert pockets for knee pads; sorry, I cannot remember where.  Never saw insert pockets for rump pads, tho.  :/ Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy

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