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Hi All, Some time ago Annie Pang and I wrote to each other, we were friends, and supported each other through this nightmare of PD and PTSD. After several months, Annie decided she was in love with me, she called my house, wrote me love letters, and said she was coming to Maine to meet me. (I have all the e-mails if there’s any doubt that this is true). Well I finally had enough of her crazy behavior and stopped writing to her, which prompted her to call me. We talked for a while and decided to remain "just friends." We would write via snail mail, and not write to each other via e-mail. Well, I made a mistake and wrote her a happy birthday wish using e-mail (I had sent her a birthday card through the mail, but I didn’t think that it would get to her on time). I then made another mistake and e-mailed her a better picture of myself. If some of you can remember, I posted that someone had called me old and fat, and it hurt my feelings. That was Annie that said that. I sent her a graduation picture of myself that did in fact make me look fat, so I sent her a better picture (one of me and my *wife*) to show her that I didn’t really look like this. Well, to make a long story short. She wrote to me and told me to stop harassing her. I didn’t know what to think, we were supposed to be friends again. I wrote back to her that I didn’t think a happy birthday wish and a picture constituted "harassment." I also told her that I’d never write to her again, and believe me, I meant it; my impression of her is that she has much deeper problems than PD and PTSD. Now, she’s recruited Rob Ryder to help her in driving me off the ng (she said I’m the reason she doesn’t post anymore; plus, she’s been posting as Jamie, telling people that she’s new–she’s not, she’s been posting to the ng as long as I have been; so she’s lied to you too). Believe me, I wish Annie/Jamie the very best, all I want is for her and her "supporters" is to leave me alone. I don’t want a romance with her. In fact, I really like her husband, John, a really nice guy. Too bad Annie has no respect for him, and my liking him just made her madder at me. <sigh What a complete waste of my time: I never wanted anything from Annie Pang but to be left alone, now she’s trying to drive me from the ng. Well, to complete her mission to get me off the ‘net, she’s been writing to people, making up lies about my "harassing" her. Here’s the mail I received from Rob Ryder (I’ve already written to his ISP with a compliant). Oh, BTW, I’ve cross posted this to ARPASH, I don’t want the good folks over there to not see who Rob Ryder really is. And BTW, in case anyone is wondering, yes, I’m considering contacting the police in the U.K. about Rob’s threats to me. — Chuck MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at relay-11.mail.demon.net Organization: (as little as possible) There’s no polite way to say this so here’s the bottom line. I know about the upset and harrassment you’ve been causing Annie and her husband, every nasty detail. Knowing how ill she was your behaviour disgusts me. You’ve changed, and for the worse – for God’s sake face up to reality and get some help before it’s too late. It stops now. If you make ANY attempt to contact her, by email or otherwise, you are gonna seriously regret it. I have friends who will kick your ass all across the net and get your connection terminated. They assure me they can also track down any future employer of yours and dump a file detailing your harrassment in their lap. Your wife might also be interested in hearing about this. Don’t fuck with me, and lay off Annie. You have been warned. — Rob Ryder
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: Now, she’s recruited Rob Ryder to help her in driving me off the ng : (she said I’m the reason she doesn’t post anymore; plus, she’s been : posting as Jamie, telling people that she’s new–she’s not, she’s been : posting to the ng as long as I have been; so she’s lied to you too). Woe!!! My gosh, is this for real???? 
I’ve always thought well of you Chuck, as well as Annie and Rob! This seems so bizarre I’m having trouble believing it! Is Annie really pretending to be Jamie? Is Rob really making these horrible threats? Let me know if I can help arbitrate a peace treaty. Best Wishes, Arthur
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: Now, she’s recruited Rob Ryder to help her in driving me off the ng : (she said I’m the reason she doesn’t post anymore; plus, she’s been : posting as Jamie, telling people that she’s new–she’s not, she’s been : posting to the ng as long as I have been; so she’s lied to you too). Woe!!! My gosh, is this for real???? I’ve always thought well of you Chuck, as well as Annie and Rob! This seems so bizarre I’m having trouble believing it! Is Annie really pretending to be Jamie? Is Rob really making these horrible threats?
Hi Arthur, Sadly, it’s all true. This is not one of my attempts to get another humorous article on you Web page. : ( — Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Best Wishes, Arthur
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: Hi Arthur, : : Sadly, it’s all true. This is not one of my attempts to get another : humorous article on you Web page. : ( Gosh! Guess we wont be able to cure *this* situation with an Alka Selzer suppository! It’s time for HEAVY DUTY GROUP THERAPY!!! I’ll play the role of group therapist, OK? Now, who want’s to start today’s session? Best Wishes, Arthur
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Now, she’s recruited Rob Ryder to help her in driving me off the ng : (she said I’m the reason she doesn’t post anymore; plus, she’s been : posting as Jamie, telling people that she’s new–she’s not, she’s been : posting to the ng as long as I have been; so she’s lied to you too). Woe!!! My gosh, is this for real???? I’ve always thought well of you Chuck, as well as Annie and Rob! This seems so bizarre I’m having trouble believing it! Is Annie really pretending to be Jamie? Is Rob really making these horrible threats? Let me know if I can help arbitrate a peace treaty. Best Wishes, Arthur
****I do not want to get in the middle of this. However, attached you will find two posts by Jamie/Annie. The top post is dated 12/11/96. In this post as a new person who has been lurking on ASAP. In the bottom post dated 3/26/96, this is only one of the many posts by Annie Pang back then. Jamie/Annie has also identified herself to me as being one and the same person. I do NOT know what is going on here. However, I would hope that before ANYONE would ever accuse someone of something, they would carefully check out the person who is doing the accusing. Pegi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [Previous] [Next] [Current Results] [Get Thread] [Author Profile] [Post] [Post] [Reply] Article 44 of 48 Organization: Island Net on Vancouver Island B.C. Canada Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-Panic Hello there, ASAP, I’ve been posting abit the past few days just to see if my nerves would stay intact. I’ve been lurking for quite some time and I feel as though I know alot of you folks already. What a neat bunch of people. My name is Jamie and I have GAD/PD, among other things. I am nervous about posting and putting my foot in my mouth and then getting toasted. I know this is an irratational fear, but then we do get alot of those, don’t we??? I guess people can get pretty touchy. I like to joke around alot too and this helps me deal with my lot in life with this wonderful disorder I have. I don’t talk to my family much because of their attitude towards me. They treat me quite badly….like I’m a failure because I don’t live up to their expectations, which, I might add, were/are very high and unrealistic. That is what makes this time of year, with the holidays coming up, so very hard to deal with. I feel so damned lonely, even though I have alot of friends. Somehow the "family" thing being so dysfunctional makes Xmas almost unbearable. I haven’t spent Xmas with my family in years and have no intention of subjecting myself to their crap this year. Instead, I’ll be with friends. Anyhow, there’s alot more, but I’ll stop here for now. I hope to make some good friends here and get some of my confidence back so I don’t feel so badly about my condition. I also hope that being on this group will help me get through the holiday season. So…how is everyone coping with neat things like Xmas shopping???<G Jamie <lurker mode OFF completely….for now) Article 94 of 94 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-Panic <Gary’s post snipped — Gary Cooper It’s kind of funny. My family thinks I’m a horror. Alot of my dysfunctional friends are afraid of dealing with issues and they ALL conform (at least on the outside ) to the social niceties. But we are a frustrated and angry bunch of people with a tough life to deal with having PD, PA’S or GAD and I find that sometimes I have to really get blunt and harsh to get people off my case. I am who I am and if I see something ANYWHERE that is a violation of my rights or the rights of others I WILL speak out . Afterall, I don”t know about you guys, but one of the reasons I AM so sick at this time is due to years of towing the line and pleasing others. I am not an offensive person but I can and will get my point across in whatever manner is called for. I think this is called "integrity"……we all have it….somewhere. Whatever…..I am here for me and you…..but me first….If I don’t put me first who will??? Gotta stand up for myself…won’t let anyone take that away from me again! Good on you Mally and Gary! Annie
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What did any of this have to do with anxiety or support? I do not think this type thing helps anyone. Please Chuck, Rob, etc… if you feel you have been shown in a poor light on the ng, then just post something asking folks to trust you that you are not evil, and ask for continued support from the support group. I would like to think most of us would offer it. I think the public nature of this battle is hurting all involved – and some who are not involved.
I’m sorry, Snit I really disagree with you. The point at issue is that someone who has tried to portray himself as an all-time nice-guy, someone on whom the weak and scared can rely, has behaved very threateningly towards another user. What this has to do with the rest of us is that it should warn us about the people with whom we are dealing. In the very nature of an anxiety suppirt group, *extremely* intimate details of people’s lives are revealed to virtual strangers. Perhaps this is incautious, but it is what people do and, I’d suggest, what we sometimes need to do to get help – to open-up with details about our selves and our lives. Would you *really* want to rely on someone who wrote such things as appeared in that letter? I can only say that I would not and that I would rather be warned beforehand. Chuck took a risk posting what he did. He had to come out in the open and risk having his private life held-up to ridicule and sniggering. I feel he did us a service, by telling us the truth and I also think he deserves our thanks. — Gary Cooper
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Hey Hirsch, thanks for the support. Glad that you added your two cents. Not very helpful, but two cents nevertheless. Please, Hirsch, I must have missed the vote making you ASAP Sheriff. Please fill me in on the details of the vote. So, now you decide what is and what isn’t anxiety-panic related, eh? You have no idea how stressful this situation is, or how much support I need. Again, thanks for supporting me through this mess I didn’t start, nor did I want. — Chuck It is time for this thread to end. Now. It is serving no useful purpose on ASAP, and is causing division and hurt among the members of this newgroup.
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<Full message SNIT SNIPPED What did any of this have to do with anxiety or support? I do not think this type thing helps anyone. Please Chuck, Rob, etc… if you feel you have been shown in a poor light on the ng, then just post something asking folks to trust you that you are not evil, and ask for continued support from the support group. I would like to think most of us would offer it.
Hi Snit, What does this have to do with anxiety or support? It has everything to do with anxiety and support. I’ve been attacked via e-mail by another member of ASAP, and I’m asking the rest of the group to support me. Receiving such a letter as Rob wrote to me caused me a great deal of anxiety. It’s hard to feel safe any place, but ASAP has always felt like a safe place, a home where I can be open, honest and get the much needed support for my PD and anxiety. However, when one is attacked by a another member of that group, then the safety and feeling of intrusion is overwhelming. Yes, Snit, this is about anxiety and needed support, and I would thank you to not dismiss my fear and need for support so easily. — Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I think the public nature of this battle is hurting all involved – and some who are not involved. Good luck to all… I really need a better phrase – I think luck is the wrong word.
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teeheehee..nobody gives a shit about this siilly soap opera. you’re all a bunch of sleazy liars and nitwits. who gives a damn???
I take Xanax when I have a panic attack. Do you have anything that *YOU* take for stupidity?
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Gary, I’ve not seen Chuck’s original post yet, so I am not able to comment on maliciousness, etc. However, as you know, I know Rob well and have the highest regard for him. I am sorry that you have chosen to convict him (and thus Annie and John) in such a public manner. I hate to see the group splintered in such a way.
Then I shall forward Chuck’s post to you immediately. I don’t doubt you will find it revealing. And kindly do not twist my words. I have passed no comment on either Annie or John (if it was, indeed, he who wrote that post). I have carefully gone out of my way *not* to comment on them, in point of fact, so why you have chosen to read that into my words, I can’t imagine. For the sake of clarity, I repeat my view. What passed between Chuck, Annie and John is *private*. None of us will ever know the truth of it and none of us can be objective. What *matters* is whether a member of this NG should be sending blackmail letters to another. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Each of us have people in the group we feel closer to than others. However, I do not think our personal likes and dislikes should determine who is and is not welcomed to post in the group. Rob has never been a malicious person. In my experience he has been just the opposite, even going as far as championing people who other people were flaming. It makes no sense that he should suddenly reverse his whole personality. Perhaps the only thing we can do right now is to look at what has happened without reaching a conclusion. Some- one isn’t telling the truth, but only the people who are involved know who that person is. Until we know, decid- ing who should leave is premature.
You’re judging without the evidence. Perhaps when you have seen the disgraceful piece of blatant intimidation and bullyboy threats that Ryder sent to Chuck, you might care to review your opinions. Though I wonder if you will? — Gary Cooper
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What did any of this have to do with anxiety or support? I do not think this type thing helps anyone. Please Chuck, Rob, etc… if you feel you have been shown in a poor light on the ng, then just post something asking folks to trust you that you are not evil, and ask for continued support from the support group. I would like to think most of us would offer it. I think the public nature of this battle is hurting all involved – and some who are not involved.
<snipped I agree completely with you. I have been surprised at the vehemence with which some have reacted to this affair. I’ve already received a couple of nasty posts and some not-so-kind email because I said Rob was my friend and that we shouldn’t be so hasty in nailing people to the wall. The anger that has been shown makes me think something else is at work — a grudge that came up long ago about something totally different. I, for one, don’t want to be pulled into living out that old grudge again. A couple of things I have read said that it was expected that I would be on "Rob’s side" of this. An email said that Rob was leading me. Oh my god! It said that Rob had solicited me to defend him, and that he was going to lead me down some path…??? I’ve been called stupid and insulted in most ways. Why? because I said I liked Rob and we should reserve judgment. There was no mention that I had nothing against the writers (Chuck and Gary) of the emails. Snit, what you said is probably the best we can do. The way we have been posting these flames and mini-flames for this past month is silly. It has had much effect on the way I post — I can’t think of anything supportive to say after I’ve read something that made me mad. I don’t mind a little of it, but the little has become too much. [BTW, guys -- Rob doesn't lead me anywhere. I'm a big girl now. And And Rob doesn't need to write me letters, manipulating me into defending him <sigh -- where'd THAT idea come from? He's a big boy and can defend himself. I hope I don't get any more belittling posts or emails.] Anita
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Anita, I see no reason for you to come to any conclusions about this situation if, as you say in another post, you have not seen my original post. In that post you’ll find that your dear friend Rob is nothing but a bully. You judge for yourself, but if you insist on backing Rob after you’ve seen his letter to me, then I’ll know, and so will the rest of the ng, that you are not being objective, but are instead standing up for a misguided friend. Chuck, I see no reason that Rob should "pay a price." It seems to me that Rob handled this sticky situation well. He emailed you after he had apparently received some disturbing email. From what I’ve seen so far — correct me if I’m wrong — it was you who chose to make it public.
Rob should pay a price for breaking several laws in the U.S. and the U.K. If you really haven’t read my post, which includes Rob’s letter to me, then read it, and then make up your mind. If you still back Rob, and think what Rob did was "handled this sticky situation well." Then get back to me, and we’ll discuss whether or not the world is round or flat–it should be an interesting discussion. As I read some of the earlier posts, I didn’t know what to believe. Your above post answered many questions.
And as you have designed this paragraph to confuse us, or to mislead us, I don’t know what it means. Exactly what "questions" have been answered for you? — Chuck P.S. Since your server appears to be slow, I’ll e-mail you a copy of this.
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<big snip Anita writes: Gary, I’ve not seen Chuck’s original post yet, so I am not able to comment on maliciousness, etc. However, as you know, I know Rob well and have the highest regard for him. I am sorry that you have chosen to convict him (and thus Annie and John) in such a public manner. I hate to see the group splintered in such a way.
Anita, I am quite amazed at your ability to come to so many conclusions without having seen my original post. A lot of us had held Rob in high regard, but what he wrote to me *was* malicious, and none of his damn business. You say that Gary has convicted Rob in a public manner? Why shouldn’t this be brought out into the open? Rob’s tactics have always included working in the background of ASAP, getting people like you to back him–I suspect that is what he is doing now, gather his forces to defend him. Simple enough, Rob can’t possibly defend his actions, so he finds someone like you to do it for him. What path do you think that will lead you down? Okay, Anita, get in Rob’s corner, I expected you to anyway. But Rob is certainty not the man you think he is. Each of us have people in the group we feel closer to than others. However, I do not think our personal likes and dislikes should determine who is and is not welcomed to post in the group.
Excuse me, Anita, but I think Rob shot himself in the foot by e-mailing his letter to me; no one pulled the trigger, he did. Rob has never been a malicious person.
Rob has not been a malicious person to YOU!! But to others, yes he has–I was the first one with the balls to reveal him for what he is: a common troll. In my experience he has been just the opposite, even going as far as championing people who other people were flaming.
Yes, he does "championing people who other people were flaming." Muddy Don is a good example of Rob’s fighting with windmills, and standing up for the under dog. That doesn’t mean he’s right; it means he likes to put himself on display like some sort of super hero that defends the poor lonely person being flamed by the group. Does that make him right, I doubt it. It makes no sense that he should suddenly reverse his whole personality.
Maybe you don’t know him like you think you do. Do you think I made up the letter? I didn’t; our hero at large wrote it, sent it, and meant every nasty word in it. Wake up, Anita, you’ve been around ASAP long enough to know what really goes on here. Rob intentionally rubs the ng the wrong way on purpose–if you don’t know this, then you sure aren’t as smart as you think you are. Perhaps the only thing we can do right now is to look at what has happened without reaching a conclusion. Some- one isn’t telling the truth, but only the people who are involved know who that person is. Until we know, decid- ing who should leave is premature.
If you’re saying that this has anything to do with Annie and me, think again. This is about a letter Rob Ryder wrote to me. This has nothing to do with what Annie thought was happening between us. The matter before us is whether Rob is truly what her appears to be. And what does "deciding who should leave" have to do with this? No one is telling anyone to leave, but I can see that Rob is still missing. If I wrote a letter like he did, I’d be hiding in shame too. And I repeat: this has nothing to do with Annie, John, or myself. This is about Rob Ryder writing threatening letters to a member of ASAP. — Chuck P.S. As with your other post that I responded to, I’m mailing you a copy of this–if you haven’t seen my original post yet, then you have a very slow server, so we don’t want to keep you in suspense, do we?
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<Full message SNIT SNIPPED What did any of this have to do with anxiety or support? I do not think this type thing helps anyone. Please Chuck, Rob, etc… if you feel you have been shown in a poor light on the ng, then just post something asking folks to trust you that you are not evil, and ask for continued support from the support group. I would like to think most of us would offer it. I think the public nature of this battle is hurting all involved – and some who are not involved. Good luck to all… I really need a better phrase – I think luck is the wrong word.
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Holy smokes! If Annie/Jamie is still feeling "harrassed", why on earth didn’t she filter you out of her mail box? I explained how to do so many months ago, when she phoned me about her feeling harrassed?
You mean you KNEW about this many months ago Mally, and did nothing about it? Who else knew and kept quiet about it? Sheesh… I’d better not say anymore. As for Rob’s email, no matter what cause someone may be "championing" – these kinds of threats are unacceptable and may even be actionable. I cannot imagine writing about all this to a woman who is as ill as your wife is Chuck - well, I can’t imagine writing to *anyone’s* spouse in such a way.
I’d do the same again right now for anyone here, even you Mally. — ROB… "high mileage but reliable!"
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I apologise to both ASAP and ARPASH for having to post this. It was never intended that this matter should get onto either group. However, serious allegations have been made and we feel we must make known our version of events. Please Note: Personally I would much prefer to get this off the newsgroup. I have emailed Arthur Anderson asking him to mediate. But if Mr Doyle continues with his accusations, or makes any further attempt to contact Annie Pang, we will have to reply. To: Rob Ryder – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -There’s no polite way to say this so here’s the bottom line. I know about the upset and harrassment you’ve been causing Annie and her husband, every nasty detail. Knowing how ill she was your behaviour disgusts me. You’ve changed, and for the worse – for God’s sake face up to reality and get some help before it’s too late. You have no idea what you’re talking about, Rob. There is no way you could "know" the whole story. You’ve heard Annie’s side, not mine. She’s the one that’s been harasses me. My God, man, you’re sticking up for someone that hates you, don’t you know that? I have all the e-mail that Annie and I exchanged, and there is no harassment in it from me, there is however, a lot of harressing on here part. She’s called my home, asked as to be friends again, made a lot of threats, sent me love letters… the list goes on. The only thing I want, is for her to leave *me* alone!!! I have no idea what she’s told you, but remember when you said she had low self-esteem, well it goes deeper than that. I would urge you to stay away for this nut case. It stops now. If you make ANY attempt to contact her, by email or otherwise, you are gonna seriously regret it. I have friends who will kick your ass all across the net and get your connection terminated. They assure me they can also track down any future employer of yours and dump a file detailing your harrassment in their lap. Your wife might also be interested in hearing about this. The last e-mail I sent to her I told her was the last. You judge for yourself. Every time I try to get her out of my life, she finds a way back in… you tell me, is this e-mail harassment? This is how is operates, Rob. Now she’s getting you to write to me, God, Rob, wake up, she’s using you. She’s trying to get me to leave the ng so she can post… I have no idea why she’s doing this again. Don’t fuck with me, and lay off Annie. You have been warned. Don’t fuck with me, Ryder… trust me you won’t like what happens. I wonder what the nice people on the ng will think of this mail and you after I post it for all to see? Guess we’ll have to wait and see, eh? Oh, I didn’t see where you CC: a copy of your letter to Annie, so I’ll just send her a copy, okay??? See what she thinks of you now.
To: Rob Ryder Okay, Rob, so there’s no misunderstanding before we start this battle, let me just share a letter that Annie sent to me. This letter was sent after we had talked on the phone once. I believe it was one of the times I had asked her to leave me alone, but she lives in her own world. So, Rob, before this gets completely out of hand, you decide who is being harassed. The only thing Annie wants is for me to leave ASAP, nothing else: — Chuck Dearest Chuck<g,
Please Note: What follows is an alleged love-letter which I have snipped to spare Annie Pang further anxiety and upset. Having exchanged many emails with Annie I know her style of writing, her punctuation, even where she makes her spelling mistakes. This letter was not written by Annie. In the three and a half hours between these two emails I believe Chuck Doyle wrote this himself – it’s a forgery, and probably not the last. But consider this: Chuck Doyle claims it was a snailmail letter. In that case he must have typed it in himself from a hard copy, the original handwritten letter. 1) Why did he add Usenet embellishments throughout, such as <G, when we don’t use them in snailmail letters? 2) Why did he even keep the letter if what he says is true, and he wanted this woman out of his life? Annie ps…this is my first real love letter……well, in about 13 years..<G
To: Rob Ryder This was simply a forwarded copy of the newsgroup post from Chuck Doyle. Note the ten hour time difference since the last email before posting to ASAP. To: Annie Pang (time unknown but before 17:50) Well, Annie, good job… getting other people involved. This is a letter I got from Rob Ryder. Very nice, but seeing as I had no plans on of ever writing to you again, this was totally unnecessary. I am going to, BTW, post this to the ng, with all the nasty details. I’ve had about enough of your bullshit that I can handle–stay out of my life, you wacko. Neither I nor Annie have replied to any of Chuck Doyle’s above emails. — ROB… "high mileage but reliable!"
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Now, she’s recruited Rob Ryder to help her in driving me off the ng (she said I’m the reason she doesn’t post anymore; plus, she’s been posting as Jamie, telling people that she’s new–she’s not, she’s been posting to the ng as long as I have been; so she’s lied to you too).
<snipped in disgust The e-mail from Rob Ryder to Chuck is easily the most contemptible and disgraceful thing I have seen since ASAP was founded. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the friendship between Chuck and Annie, it was and is no business of Ryder’s. Nor can there be *any* excuse for threats, blackmail, menaces and intimidation. It is my feeling that someone who will write an e-mail as vicious as this doesn’t belong in a civilised society, let alone a support group and I trust that Ryder will now try to salvage some shreds of self-respect, attempt to behave like a gentleman and leave. For good. — Gary Cooper
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TO THE PEOPLE OF ASAP… This afternoon I sent a stern email to Chuck Doyle in an attempt to bring an end to months of harassment and terror for a female long-term ASAP member. Despite what he claims nobody has attempted to *drive him from the group*, only to finally end his threatening emails to a vulnerable woman. This need never have involved ASAP. It was Chuck Doyle’s choice to drag the matter to the group, a gamble on his part which may or may not pay off. This will depend on you. What is about to unfold is a sort of *trial by Usenet*, where I shall present our evidence which Mr Doyle will no doubt attempt to discredit. It will be up to yourselves as individuals to choose who is to be believed. When you come to weigh up this evidence I would ask you to remember this solemn promise: I will only tell you the truth. The emails that I present will be genuine. You have my word on this. I also ask you to carefully consider Chuck’s actions, and the reasons behind them, in posting this here (even x-posting to ARPASH). Many of the longer term ASAP-ers will remember Annie Pang who was here a long time before Chuck Doyle first arrived. You may have wondered, as I did, why she stopped posting. Also you will remember Jamie, a lady who has posted for the last few months telling us of her spell in hospital. Annie and Jamie are the same person (as Annie posted a few days ago under the heading *Just wanna say hi*). The reasons for this will soon become clear. Annie approached me for help a short while ago by email. She was very frightened and needed someone she could trust. I have Annie’s permission to reproduce part of an early email she sent me, so here’s the story in her own words: First of all, Chuck had been harassing me on and off for a number of months. You might say he was
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