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Cherri, Of course!!! : ) The more, the merrier! LOL! kat p.s. I like your outfit *grinning* "Cherri" <staryn…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:B774FB20.990%starynyte@earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I wanna come, can I? can I? > pretty pleeeeease!!!!!!!!!! > I’ll be the jester, i’ll act silly and make everyone laugh, > I’d like my outfit to be purple and blue, and the 3 pointed hat, BUT no > pointy shoes! I don’t like my toes squished all in a point, ya know? > I enjoyd your posts back n forth….. > I know as far as myself, my expectations of others has always been too high, > I’ve tried to lessen them, because I am almost always let down. > I too expect people to treat me the way I treat them, and most people just > don’t live that way anymore. I think many people are just out for themselfs, > and no one else. > As the world turns…. > Cherri
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7/14/01 3:08 AM > That is sad to have to believe Cherri.
about having too high expectations of people? > I don’t want to but I find myself thinking that way .
I think it’s a trust thing…I used to try to give people my trust untill they did something to not deserve it, but….it is very difficult for me since I’ve been abused. I now do the trust thing in reverse, and that way, if someone does do something to screw me over, I’m no that badly hurt. I know it’s an awfuly pesemistic way of living, but it’s my wall, my protection system, and untill I find trustworthy people to surround mysefl, and know for a fact that they won’t hurt,abuse, or screw me over, that’s the way I have to be. Other people have made me this way, I agree it’s a shame others have to pay for it. But I feel if someone IS trustworthy and understanding of what I’ve been through, they’ll prove their trustworthyness. > All humans are self centered some more than others tho.
I don’t feel that I am self centered, maybe self preserving (if you mean me…I wasn’t quite sure how to take your post……sorry) I am a very caring person, and try to be very conciderate of others feelings. Cherri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Helski
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I wanna come, can I? can I? pretty pleeeeease!!!!!!!!!! I’ll be the jester, i’ll act silly and make everyone laugh, I’d like my outfit to be purple and blue, and the 3 pointed hat, BUT no pointy shoes! I don’t like my toes squished all in a point, ya know? I enjoyd your posts back n forth….. I know as far as myself, my expectations of others has always been too high, I’ve tried to lessen them, because I am almost always let down. I too expect people to treat me the way I treat them, and most people just don’t live that way anymore. I think many people are just out for themselfs, and no one else. As the world turns…. Cherri
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That is sad to have to believe Cherri. I don’t want to but I find myself thinking that way . All humans are self centered some more than others tho. Helski
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Tiny, ty! I admit, I might look a little silly wearing my tiara on my wool fedora with my Eyeore overalls on, but "f" "em all! LOL!!! If it makes me happy nowadays, I do it. I’m too old to care any more about what I look like. I do agree with you though, I think Bro, Rick and Rudy might not be too happy with you if you deemed that the outfit of choice for THEM. Ha. LMAO on that one!! thanks!!! I’d just love to see you decked out!!! I’ve got this mental image of you, all decked out, in your hot pink birkies, your jewelry, your tiara, big shades and sunhat (tiara perched precariously on the sunhat), and and I just get the biggest kick out of it!!! *grinning* Imagine me in old jeans, bib overalls, carharts and derbies, and there you go, short mousey brown hair, and about 40 pounds overweight. Not much to giggle about, except a couple of my "wild derbies". LOL! That you had such a shit life, and yet to be the kind of mom you were? To teach them to think of other people’s feelings, to be respectful of others, to be thoughtful, gentle, kind? To be able to give them what you never had? That’s really neat tiny. Made me chuckle about keeping "spare" gifts around, for "just in case". I used to do that too, with my first husband, in the airforce. We always had a houseful of young airmen at holiday times, that didn’t have anywhere to go for christmas or thanksgiving, and I’d always fix a huge feast. We’d all set around afterwards, play darts, visit, just "be". You know? Not to have to alone in this life, it helps. And funny thing about that, but doing good things for others has a way of making YOU feel good inside too. Like you’re not so damned helpless, you know? Can’t change the past, but you CAN try to make the world a little bit better, at least your corner of it. If you can just get the nerve up the leave the house…LOL! I think having kids must have brought you "out" a lot more (from isolating), as opposed to a childless person. That’s a good thing tiny. Sounds like you were/are a wonderful parent. Your kids are lucky. : ) I guess I try do that with my animals too. Pass my values on and all, but to the four-legged "kids." LOL! Thanks Tiny, for sharing that. I really enjoyed reading your post. : ) kat "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YtE37.78089$ih.16504589@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Kat, > Nope, no beauty queen aspirations, I just love jewelry and stuff! Big > dangly earrings, lots of rings and stuff! My hubby gets a real kick out of > my toe rings! He used to tease me that I had just so many fingers, so I was > thrilled when toe rings came back into vogue! But you can all wear tiara’s > too. I just figured in Nutville I could "pull one off" so why not make the > most of it? :-))) I’d made a tiara our "outfit of choice" but I think Bro > and Rick and Rudy might object to wearing them……..:-)) > I know what you mean though, I feel the same way about treating others the > way you want to be treated. I don’t know if this is too simplistic, but I > noticed it with my kids, when they were growing up. They are all really > great too, I can’t count the number of people over the years who’ve > commented/told/mentioned to me what sweet, nice daughters we have. One of > the biggest things to me when they were little, was teaching them to > consider how the other person feels. There were so many opportunities when > they were children. If we saw teasing going on, or kids with disabilities > or something, I’d always say to them "How would you feel if you were that > person being teased?" "It would make you feel sad/lonely/cry etc.," We did > that role reversal thing from little on and I have to say they are always > looking out for others now. They try to include anybody and everybody in > things we do. If they know somebody at work who doesn’t seem to have > friends they include them in their group. That’s why we end up with extra > people on holidays all the time. At Christmas I always have extra gifts on > hand all wrapped up with a nametag to be filled in at a moments notice, > because I never know who they might bring, saying they had nowhere else to > go. And each of them has "adopted" me out as "mom" to friends of theirs who > don’t have mom’s due to death or just situations like many of us here come > from. When the girls were young it seemed to me that not many parents > taught their kids to be nice to others. I always volunteered at school, had > Brownie troops, was around kids all the time and that was what I noticed. > It was sad to me too, Kat. I guess I’m an idealist too, but it seems the > world would be such a nicer place if people did less judging and more > caring. > tiny dancer > "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:9im7ts$npm$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… > > Tiny, > > I bet you always wanted to be in a beauty pageant growing up but never > gotta > > be, huh? (the reason for the tiara neurosis?) *giggling, reaching out to > > give tiny a hug* Me too. Can I wear it just ONE day a week, oh please? > or > > whatabout you wear the grandaddy tiarra, and I wear the "I wanna be a real > > tiarra when I grow up" one? hehehehe!!! > > Be so neat to be somwhere where I was considered "normal" and everyone > else > > was "Abby Normal." Anyone ever see Young Frankenstein, Mel Brookes > version? > > Is that right? It’s the guy that does all the spoofs. And Doc. > > Frankenstein sent Egore to get a brain, so he got the brain in the jar > > labeled "abnormal". Thought it said "Abby Normal". To be somewhere that > > everyone understood what living with this is like, and gave each other the > > necessary support and/or space needed to get their "grip" back when things > > were rough? Someone to talk to about all this crap we go through. > Someone > > to have fun with. Someone to laugh with. Someone who truly, truly > > understands, who isn’t "paid" to listen to you. Who just does it cause > they > > want to, because they’ve been there too? > > You know something. Just the thought of a place like that, all joking > > aside, is enough to make me wanna cry. Why can’t people just try a little > > compassion sometimes, you know? A little kindness goes a long way. > > Whatever happened to the old adage, treat people like YOU want to be > > treated? Huh? Am I the only idiot that thinks of this kind of shit? WTF > > is wrong with people nowadays? Or is it just my reactions/perceptions > that > > are so distorted? I’ve never EVER felt like I belonged here, here being > on > > "planet earth." Or like I was "supposed" to be here. To tenderhearted, > to > > "unrealistic", to "idealistic". Shit, I don’t know. But I’ve never felt > > like I belonged, anywhere. Ever. > > I caught the tail end of some stupid ass movie, and this guy comes on and > > says at the end, to the effect, just remember all you assholes out there, > > someday you MAY just piss off the wrong person. And all I could think > about > > was that SOB that threatened to hurt my little 3-legged baby. No wonder I > > don’t watch much tv. Just bored I guess. > > kat > > "Hannah." <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:B7740390.1399%blhage8@hotmail.com… > > > > Hi Hannah, > > > > Yeah, it kind of sounds like heaven, doesn’t it?? I have a feeling > we’d > > > > probably all feel a lot better just being surrounded by people just > like > > us. > > > > Life wouldn’t be quite as hard because the people we were dealing with > > > > wouldn’t be so threatening to us, we wouldn’t worry whether we fit in > or > > > > not. There would be people in various stages of recovery, always > ready > > to > > > > offer support, and just know how we’re feeling because they’ve been > > there > > > > before us. It really sounds great, but can I be Queen??? Huh, > please?? > > I > > > > really would like to wear that tiara!! It would go so great with my > > birkies > > > > and toe rings!!
I’ve always aspired to be Queen Nut!! :-) We > > could > > > > goof around and have fun and when we need to be serious and work on > > stuff > > > > there’d always be somebody to listen and support. Can you imagine a > > > > stranger wandering into Nutville?? Boy would they be the one to feel > > like > > > > the abnormal one then! > > > > tiny dancer > > > Absolutely, you can be the Queen, tiara and all.
) I’ll be the > resident > > > jeans and T-shirt and sneakers nut.
) > > > It *would* be great to goof around and then be allowed to be serious > > > whenever we need to. You’re right, there’d always be someone there to > > listen > > > and support. You’ve described it so well, the different stages of > > recovery. > > > So when do we leave?
> > > Hannah
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Hi Kat, Nope, no beauty queen aspirations, I just love jewelry and stuff! Big dangly earrings, lots of rings and stuff! My hubby gets a real kick out of my toe rings! He used to tease me that I had just so many fingers, so I was thrilled when toe rings came back into vogue! But you can all wear tiara’s too. I just figured in Nutville I could "pull one off" so why not make the most of it? :-))) I’d made a tiara our "outfit of choice" but I think Bro and Rick and Rudy might object to wearing them……..:-)) I know what you mean though, I feel the same way about treating others the way you want to be treated. I don’t know if this is too simplistic, but I noticed it with my kids, when they were growing up. They are all really great too, I can’t count the number of people over the years who’ve commented/told/mentioned to me what sweet, nice daughters we have. One of the biggest things to me when they were little, was teaching them to consider how the other person feels. There were so many opportunities when they were children. If we saw teasing going on, or kids with disabilities or something, I’d always say to them "How would you feel if you were that person being teased?" "It would make you feel sad/lonely/cry etc.," We did that role reversal thing from little on and I have to say they are always looking out for others now. They try to include anybody and everybody in things we do. If they know somebody at work who doesn’t seem to have friends they include them in their group. That’s why we end up with extra people on holidays all the time. At Christmas I always have extra gifts on hand all wrapped up with a nametag to be filled in at a moments notice, because I never know who they might bring, saying they had nowhere else to go. And each of them has "adopted" me out as "mom" to friends of theirs who don’t have mom’s due to death or just situations like many of us here come from. When the girls were young it seemed to me that not many parents taught their kids to be nice to others. I always volunteered at school, had Brownie troops, was around kids all the time and that was what I noticed. It was sad to me too, Kat. I guess I’m an idealist too, but it seems the world would be such a nicer place if people did less judging and more caring. tiny dancer "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9im7ts$npm$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tiny, > I bet you always wanted to be in a beauty pageant growing up but never gotta > be, huh? (the reason for the tiara neurosis?) *giggling, reaching out to > give tiny a hug* Me too. Can I wear it just ONE day a week, oh please? or > whatabout you wear the grandaddy tiarra, and I wear the "I wanna be a real > tiarra when I grow up" one? hehehehe!!! > Be so neat to be somwhere where I was considered "normal" and everyone else > was "Abby Normal." Anyone ever see Young Frankenstein, Mel Brookes version? > Is that right? It’s the guy that does all the spoofs. And Doc. > Frankenstein sent Egore to get a brain, so he got the brain in the jar > labeled "abnormal". Thought it said "Abby Normal". To be somewhere that > everyone understood what living with this is like, and gave each other the > necessary support and/or space needed to get their "grip" back when things > were rough? Someone to talk to about all this crap we go through. Someone > to have fun with. Someone to laugh with. Someone who truly, truly > understands, who isn’t "paid" to listen to you. Who just does it cause they > want to, because they’ve been there too? > You know something. Just the thought of a place like that, all joking > aside, is enough to make me wanna cry. Why can’t people just try a little > compassion sometimes, you know? A little kindness goes a long way. > Whatever happened to the old adage, treat people like YOU want to be > treated? Huh? Am I the only idiot that thinks of this kind of shit? WTF > is wrong with people nowadays? Or is it just my reactions/perceptions that > are so distorted? I’ve never EVER felt like I belonged here, here being on > "planet earth." Or like I was "supposed" to be here. To tenderhearted, to > "unrealistic", to "idealistic". Shit, I don’t know. But I’ve never felt > like I belonged, anywhere. Ever. > I caught the tail end of some stupid ass movie, and this guy comes on and > says at the end, to the effect, just remember all you assholes out there, > someday you MAY just piss off the wrong person. And all I could think about > was that SOB that threatened to hurt my little 3-legged baby. No wonder I > don’t watch much tv. Just bored I guess. > kat > "Hannah." <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:B7740390.1399%blhage8@hotmail.com… > > > Hi Hannah, > > > Yeah, it kind of sounds like heaven, doesn’t it?? I have a feeling we’d > > > probably all feel a lot better just being surrounded by people just like > us. > > > Life wouldn’t be quite as hard because the people we were dealing with > > > wouldn’t be so threatening to us, we wouldn’t worry whether we fit in or > > > not. There would be people in various stages of recovery, always ready > to > > > offer support, and just know how we’re feeling because they’ve been > there > > > before us. It really sounds great, but can I be Queen??? Huh, please?? > I > > > really would like to wear that tiara!! It would go so great with my > birkies > > > and toe rings!!
I’ve always aspired to be Queen Nut!! :-) We > could > > > goof around and have fun and when we need to be serious and work on > stuff > > > there’d always be somebody to listen and support. Can you imagine a > > > stranger wandering into Nutville?? Boy would they be the one to feel > like > > > the abnormal one then! > > > tiny dancer > > Absolutely, you can be the Queen, tiara and all.
) I’ll be the resident > > jeans and T-shirt and sneakers nut.
) > > It *would* be great to goof around and then be allowed to be serious > > whenever we need to. You’re right, there’d always be someone there to > listen > > and support. You’ve described it so well, the different stages of > recovery. > > So when do we leave?
> > Hannah
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Hi everyone! My server hasn’t been working well – I’m missing a lot of posts. But from the posts I see, I gather that everyone’s talking about a place where we could all be together, just as we are. I like the Lake Superior idea, tiny dancer.
) Imagine having a flashback where everyone understands and knows what to say and/or do. Or to experience high anxiety and those around you *know* what it’s like. And to could talk to people (a whole group!) who get it. And it wouldn’t be draining, because you wouldn’t have to pretend you’re okay, you could just be yourself. And if you needed to isolate for a while, everyone wouldn’t forget you and stop calling – they’d know why you were taking time out. It sounds terrific. And, Kat, it would be great to do karoake whenever we felt like it.
) And Rick and Nancy, we could all work on businesses from our homes, and share business resources.
) Sorry if I’ve left anyone or any ideas out, I haven’t seen any more posts than these. I could sure use some time there – when do we leave? Hannah
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Hi Hannah, Yeah, it kind of sounds like heaven, doesn’t it?? I have a feeling we’d probably all feel a lot better just being surrounded by people just like us. Life wouldn’t be quite as hard because the people we were dealing with wouldn’t be so threatening to us, we wouldn’t worry whether we fit in or not. There would be people in various stages of recovery, always ready to offer support, and just know how we’re feeling because they’ve been there before us. It really sounds great, but can I be Queen??? Huh, please?? I really would like to wear that tiara!! It would go so great with my birkies and toe rings!!
I’ve always aspired to be Queen Nut!! :-) We could goof around and have fun and when we need to be serious and work on stuff there’d always be somebody to listen and support. Can you imagine a stranger wandering into Nutville?? Boy would they be the one to feel like the abnormal one then! tiny dancer "Hannah" <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9fbd6ce.0107121918.373e4f55@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone! > My server hasn’t been working well – I’m missing a lot of posts. But > from the posts I see, I gather that everyone’s talking about a place > where we could all be together, just as we are. I like the Lake > Superior idea, tiny dancer.
) > Imagine having a flashback where everyone understands and knows what > to say and/or do. Or to experience high anxiety and those around you > *know* what it’s like. And to could talk to people (a whole group!) > who get it. And it wouldn’t be draining, because you wouldn’t have to > pretend you’re okay, you could just be yourself. And if you needed to > isolate for a while, everyone wouldn’t forget you and stop calling – > they’d know why you were taking time out. It sounds terrific. > And, Kat, it would be great to do karoake whenever we felt like it. >
) > And Rick and Nancy, we could all work on businesses from our homes, > and share business resources.
) > Sorry if I’ve left anyone or any ideas out, I haven’t seen any more > posts than these. > I could sure use some time there – when do we leave? > Hannah
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Hannah, > Yeah, it kind of sounds like heaven, doesn’t it?? I have a feeling we’d > probably all feel a lot better just being surrounded by people just like us. > Life wouldn’t be quite as hard because the people we were dealing with > wouldn’t be so threatening to us, we wouldn’t worry whether we fit in or > not. There would be people in various stages of recovery, always ready to > offer support, and just know how we’re feeling because they’ve been there > before us. It really sounds great, but can I be Queen??? Huh, please?? I > really would like to wear that tiara!! It would go so great with my birkies > and toe rings!!
I’ve always aspired to be Queen Nut!! :-) We could > goof around and have fun and when we need to be serious and work on stuff > there’d always be somebody to listen and support. Can you imagine a > stranger wandering into Nutville?? Boy would they be the one to feel like > the abnormal one then! > tiny dancer
Absolutely, you can be the Queen, tiara and all.
) I’ll be the resident jeans and T-shirt and sneakers nut.
) It *would* be great to goof around and then be allowed to be serious whenever we need to. You’re right, there’d always be someone there to listen and support. You’ve described it so well, the different stages of recovery. So when do we leave?
Hannah
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Tiny, I bet you always wanted to be in a beauty pageant growing up but never gotta be, huh? (the reason for the tiara neurosis?) *giggling, reaching out to give tiny a hug* Me too. Can I wear it just ONE day a week, oh please? or whatabout you wear the grandaddy tiarra, and I wear the "I wanna be a real tiarra when I grow up" one? hehehehe!!! Be so neat to be somwhere where I was considered "normal" and everyone else was "Abby Normal." Anyone ever see Young Frankenstein, Mel Brookes version? Is that right? It’s the guy that does all the spoofs. And Doc. Frankenstein sent Egore to get a brain, so he got the brain in the jar labeled "abnormal". Thought it said "Abby Normal". To be somewhere that everyone understood what living with this is like, and gave each other the necessary support and/or space needed to get their "grip" back when things were rough? Someone to talk to about all this crap we go through. Someone to have fun with. Someone to laugh with. Someone who truly, truly understands, who isn’t "paid" to listen to you. Who just does it cause they want to, because they’ve been there too? You know something. Just the thought of a place like that, all joking aside, is enough to make me wanna cry. Why can’t people just try a little compassion sometimes, you know? A little kindness goes a long way. Whatever happened to the old adage, treat people like YOU want to be treated? Huh? Am I the only idiot that thinks of this kind of shit? WTF is wrong with people nowadays? Or is it just my reactions/perceptions that are so distorted? I’ve never EVER felt like I belonged here, here being on "planet earth." Or like I was "supposed" to be here. To tenderhearted, to "unrealistic", to "idealistic". Shit, I don’t know. But I’ve never felt like I belonged, anywhere. Ever. I caught the tail end of some stupid ass movie, and this guy comes on and says at the end, to the effect, just remember all you assholes out there, someday you MAY just piss off the wrong person. And all I could think about was that SOB that threatened to hurt my little 3-legged baby. No wonder I don’t watch much tv. Just bored I guess. kat "Hannah." <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B7740390.1399%blhage8@hotmail.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hi Hannah, > > Yeah, it kind of sounds like heaven, doesn’t it?? I have a feeling we’d > > probably all feel a lot better just being surrounded by people just like us. > > Life wouldn’t be quite as hard because the people we were dealing with > > wouldn’t be so threatening to us, we wouldn’t worry whether we fit in or > > not. There would be people in various stages of recovery, always ready to > > offer support, and just know how we’re feeling because they’ve been there > > before us. It really sounds great, but can I be Queen??? Huh, please?? I > > really would like to wear that tiara!! It would go so great with my birkies > > and toe rings!!
I’ve always aspired to be Queen Nut!! :-) We could > > goof around and have fun and when we need to be serious and work on stuff > > there’d always be somebody to listen and support. Can you imagine a > > stranger wandering into Nutville?? Boy would they be the one to feel like > > the abnormal one then! > > tiny dancer > Absolutely, you can be the Queen, tiara and all.
) I’ll be the resident > jeans and T-shirt and sneakers nut.
) > It *would* be great to goof around and then be allowed to be serious > whenever we need to. You’re right, there’d always be someone there to listen > and support. You’ve described it so well, the different stages of recovery. > So when do we leave?
> Hannah
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