Trauma – PTSD

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hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so.

you got any person to bring?  safe person waiting for you to wake up? we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown!

they won’t let you wear anything under gown until you’re awake enough to put it on yourself.  they will let you have stuffy after you get done with "recovery room" part. books earplugs or music?

music might be a good idea.  calming music. (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our

you expecting to hear lots of screams?  why? attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery.

stuffy to cuddle. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing.

stuffy to cuddle and music. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!"

the docs didn’t tell you that, did they? ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else?

meds for anxiety would help, yes. what else you think will help.

person? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

good luck. — astri

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hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots.

hey, kewl fun embies peoples. tell you what, why don’t you send me a pic of you, and i can retouch your arm so it’s just fine? i could put a jeweled arm band on. azure, sending pr*yers and good thoughts embies’ way – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up.

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hiya embies i have been foggy lately, why do you need another operation for your arm? and are you going to not be able to type after it? i mean, may i ask for the implications? and oooh for the hospital, i am going to send you as much good energy and thoughts as possible. what to bring?? your favorite book? but won’t you be just sleepy? a hand to hold yours? can you have it? i will hold yours in spirit – ahem of course if it is feeling something and not under sleep from anaesthesie now young lady, you might have to show me the way also with your courage because lately i am pushing away my own operation and i am avoiding my doctor as if he have the pest because i know he will talk me to go there and i don’t want to anymore ahahahaha, you didn’t expected that isn’t it?? but, seems like i do need inspiration and courage, i am a bit tired myself so, maybe we could do it as for kids when they are so afraid of the seringe for the injection for the vaccination??? ok, so we are both shaky and foggy and scared. would you think we will get a lollypop after?? (gee, i can’t have sugar, what can i get then??) if you go…. i will consider to go :p : D phoenix who learnt lately that asking for help is ok asking for help is healthy asking for help bring very good things in one’s life — Oilo hau kokorarazka ari da bainan ez du erruten – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or

music? definitely bring a favorite stuffy or two to cuddle.  as astri said they won’t let you were anything under your gown until you are awake enough to put it on after being through recovery. If you want to bring a special blanket, go ahead, but you would only have it before and after in the room.  As for music — if you have something really calming you like — or if you have a CD of something like waves at the beach or nature sounds or something like that, it might help.  Be sure they do get the note from the doctor and insist that you get what you need in your anxiety medications. Also, do you have someone going with you who will be there when you wake up and can hold your hand before the surgery and after?  I think that is what we would want the most.  We will be reaching out and extending our hand to you as well (of course, that is metaphorically, cause my arm and yours couldn’t reach from Chicago to RI!) Sending healing energies your way, my special friends! michelle & the rest  (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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personaly would take music of some kind.  we take our minidisc plyr most places, for sevral resons,that i like to have music on, n that frankii finds it helps her anxiety when shes out.  tho we kinda figured it wasnt always the music that helped her, cos when the baterys ran out, n it was still on, it meant ppl didnt talk to her n ask her questons, or try to sell stuff etc, cos they didnt think shed hear lol.  so maybe just wear it without the music if the music will make it worse ;p  i would say its probly bout pickin the right kinda music y’know, not somethin thats gonna remind ya of somthin or get ya in a weird mood, somthin upbeat? C.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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hi embies, i like what the others said.  don’t take your powerbook.  things have a way of "disappearing" in places like hospitals.  they took my jewelery and watch away and put it in a safe till i was discharged.  stuffies is good and music is good. a good book that keeps you engrossed.  would they let you watch video’s ?(fun ones) i thought this trip would help your arm be more useful.  isn’t that so?   i hope it works so you can get over this part of your trauma with it.   it’s been a really rough row to hoe for you.  other stuff thats happened too.  if you want to talk, give me a ring or let me know when your on.   k?   hope you can be healed in time for the trip to Ca. and meeting old friends.  wish i could go this time but i am not living in NEng. anymore.  *sigh*  i’ll never be able to come up with the air fare the way i’m going.  i’ll maybe send a treat for you all or something.  you can tell me all about it later. lots of hugs and warm wishes, linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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Things I have seen people bring to day surgery. If _they_ can do it you can too Pillow from home, blanket from home, probly not a good idea to have anything too special under gown cause if they had to take it off it might get ripped or it might something on it, stuffed animals, books, don’t bring candle or perfume or flowers those are a no no, player with music (tape/cd), special rock or whatever, picture of important people/things, shawl or scarf or whatever. Probly more but the kids just showed up and I lost my concentration. Rainbow Colors (Jill) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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Tis a good place to ask. Not only do lots of us have health concerns, but lots of us, I believe, understand completely your frettiness. Sending thoughts of compassion and caring your way, embiesones. Will be thinking of you, jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin

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uh, **big** oops on this guys if we in any way made u think we were going 2 not have an arm after this. we are not having an arm in a way that means that we are not going to be able to *use it* for a while. (and we are a bit afraid, because last time it was a long while and there were annoying complications, thus surgery #2.)  but we so get to keep our arm and are veryvery glad in part because this will make it more like the arm we used to have. a good old boring arm that tells the weather/barometric pressure. sooo sorry if we scared anyone or freaked anyone out. eek. sorry. ok, on to trying to respond to all the nice things here. sorry again! peace from our pieces, embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin

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Tis a good place to ask.

weeee thought so. hi jane! Not only do lots of us have health concerns, but lots of us, I believe, understand completely your frettiness.

yes. i tried to explain the whole dissing experience/problem with the hosp, and it is hard to get accross how this could be a prob. there are forms and stuff that are not getting around cuz we forget. and we are lost cognatively. for us, memorize the phrases: "could you repeat that, please?" and "thank you." lather, rinse, repeat as needed. Sending thoughts of compassion and caring your way, embiesones. Will be thinking of you, jane

thank you jane. you are veryvery kind ppls and we treasure a note we got from yous once. is in with special things. peace from our pieces, embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

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Things I have seen people bring to day surgery. If _they_ can do it you can too

u know how to start a post, Jill. i’m gonna say, "but my friend Jill said she saw someone do it!!!!"  who is gonna refute logic like that!? but seriously, that was helpful. Pillow from home, blanket from home, probly not a good idea to have anything too special under gown cause if they had to take it off it might get ripped or it might something on it,

yeah. the real funny thing is gonna be to find something that can even be put on with one arm all iv’d up and the other in whatever they do to that one. i’m thinkin tube top over my feet on up is really my only option. the whole thing is gonna be like a comedy movie; hopefully i will see the humor in it. stuffed animals, books, don’t bring candle or perfume or flowers those are a no no,

fun with fire? glad there is a rule about perfume. makes us much sick. player with music (tape/cd), special rock or whatever, picture of important people/things, shawl or scarf or whatever.

picture is a good idea. we not thought of that at all. *thank you* maybe we could find something nice. we like them. maybe a collage. course, might have to explain to rents who ppl were.  heehee. maybe we take pic of our doggie, friend or the fake nieces. oh, and we have a sister. (hrm… that’s processing weird. Probly more but the kids just showed up and I lost my concentration.

thot u were integrated. <grinz, ducks, runz heehee. embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rainbow Colors (Jill) hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin

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hi embies,

hihi linda. did we do the fake spammers out thing right?  we tried to do yours from memory cuz it was posted w/o it. i like what the others said. don’t take your powerbook.

not even my d’d’s ipod. things have a way of "disappearing" in places like hospitals.

ya. we afraid of that with stuffy, not that someone would want them for same reason. they took my jewelery and watch away and put it in a safe till i was discharged.

i don;t think they took any of my stuff last time. no, actually, all credit cards and money and stuff was just in my room. crazy. last time tho we did not get to really choose what we brought. stuffies is good and music is good. a good book that keeps you engrossed. would they let you watch video’s ?(fun ones)

we have no idea what we are getting selves into. we gotta figure out what is going to happen, but last time we went in the place our brain had mud in it. (ok, dissociation, but might as well have been. i thought this trip would help your arm be more useful. isn’t that so?

yup. we kinda miswrote. hopefully we corrected that mess up. this should make it so they take the metal and stuff out that kept us from healing so now we can heal. i hope it works so you can get over this part of your trauma with it. it’s been a really rough row to hoe for you. other stuff thats happened too. if you want to talk, give me a ring or let me know when your on. k?

k. much thanks. we are betting that before we are all healed up you will be getting a ring.  we are sure ready to be done with this. very ready. hope you can be healed in time for the trip to Ca. and meeting old friends.

we can hope. sure missed it right well last time, eh? wish i could go this time but i am not living in NEng. anymore. *sigh* i’ll never be able to come up with the air fare the way i’m going.

i feel your sigh, and who am i to complain?   but we can dream about a return to NE someday. even for a visit. too bad you can’t get travel miles from how many times you have to travel for docs and stuff now that you are too far from everything. (that could never happen in RI. i’ll maybe send a treat for you all or something. you can tell me all about it later.

wish i could cell call you from there, but it’s .65 a min there, not like from home. maybe call cards. they are d’ad useful. maybe we can do reverse care package. send you a trout covered in dark almond brickle. lots of hugs and warm wishes, linda

thanks linda, you’re tops. we hope we can be soon back with our friends and to type whenever we want, more than now. on plus side, we have furniture and a shower curtain now, so life is quite much better. our bathroom is absolutely wal-mart-errific. *much affection* (i think that is allowable here. irl we would sqoosh you with a hug, you know. embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music?

hihi ‘chelle, definitely bring a favorite stuffy or two to cuddle. as astri said they won’t let you were anything under your gown until you are awake enough to put it on after being through recovery.

recovery stinks. they don’t give you morphine until you can breathe properly, the stinkers. <g If you want to bring a special blanket, go ahead, but you would only have it before and after in the room. As for music — if you have something really calming you like — or if you have a CD of something like waves at the beach or nature sounds or something like that, it might help. Be sure they do get the note from the doctor and insist that you get what you need in your anxiety medications.

yes, we think we will try not to have near as much fun as we did last time. how’s that sound? we got some books on tape. a promising one is dave barry doing his version of american history. "dave barry slept here"  sounds light and like if i miss a bit i’ll survive the plot loss.  maybe we look in other libraries for similar. Also, do you have someone going with you who will be there when you wake up and can hold your hand before the surgery and after? I think that is what we would want the most.

yes, we have the m’thr, but she is unpredictable. plus who knows what issues she might have to be there or that i am there. but funny, we remember that the place where our caseworker and pdoc are stationed is right accross street. tehy said we could call them if we needed. and the note they gave us, yup. We will be reaching out and extending our hand to you as well (of course, that is metaphorically, cause my arm and yours couldn’t reach from Chicago to RI!)

probably not even if you were just in massachusetts. Sending healing energies your way, my special friends! michelle & the rest

thanks. we are fixing our settings to "receive" peace from our peices, embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

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hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. hey, kewl fun embies peoples.

hiya azzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. tell you what, why don’t you send me a pic of you, and i can retouch your arm so it’s just fine? i could put a jeweled arm band on.

you are funny. <u would have to do a manicure again, cuz that’ll never happen. ; we could be like she-ra. (member her? azure, sending pr*yers and good thoughts embies’ way

thanks az, gonna catch em all up an keep em tied to strings so they don’t fly away. peace from our pieces, embies we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up.

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need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. you got any person to bring?  safe person waiting for you to wake up?

well…. we got the m’m, but we have no clue about her stayin or nothin. she be pretty good tho. some can really h’g her n stuff. she might not stay tho, who knows with her. she can be bang on amazing woman or otherwise. we are hoping for wunderm’m to be there that day. <g we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! they won’t let you wear anything under gown until you’re awake enough to put it on yourself. they will let you have stuffy after you get done with "recovery room" part.

sounds like voice of experience. we are so afraid to lose a stuffy in the place, but so want one. no guarantees in life tho, eh? books earplugs or music? music might be a good idea. calming music.

yodeling elk of the bayou? <g (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our you expecting to hear lots of screams?  why?

oh, from us. embarrassing. (and raises the adrenaline level a tad) but ptsd hypervigilance/exaggerated startle response. it’s annoying as heck when it goes off, and something about it is wonky cuz it doesn’t de-escalate even when same stimulus is applied. dunno why. but it’s not unstoppable screaming or anything (thankfully). we don’t carry on or get all out, we just get so startleable (word?. it’s breif, one scream/yelp/curdle, but embarrassing. could not be an issue. depends if stuff gets shut off. i don’t know how it works. attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. stuffy to cuddle.

yeah? oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. stuffy to cuddle and music.

oh really? then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" the docs didn’t tell you that, did they?

oh, egads, we meant use for a while. boy did we mess with ppl. we feel so embarrassed about that. ugh. dangling modifiers: the "again" is "like before" not "ever again" *thankfully*. does make us take stock of our lucky stars. (mars, venus, and other sattelites we can see too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? meds for anxiety would help, yes. what else you think will help. person?

yeah?  (we giggle, cuz we see the message. get a person, a stuffy, and music. must be the KISS principle for us. we got the message. is good advice. thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. good luck. — astri

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hiya embies

hihi phoenix friend. i have been foggy lately, why do you need another operation for your arm?

yeah. but on the side, this one is supposed to work. and are you going to not be able to type after it?

lkast time i was able to pick left handed after a bit. it takes a while, but i think i have a lot of the skills left (i hope.)  but yes, i’m going to be a bit cut off, cuz i won’t be able to be here for a bit. i mean, may i ask for the implications?

get to go spend some quality time next door with the rents. and boring stuff about relearning to use the arm, it becomming itself again. and oooh for the hospital, i am going to send you as much good energy and thoughts as possible.

thanks.  those will be much appreciated. yupyup. what to bring?? your favorite book?

gonna bring a library’s version of it, cuz we l’ve our books too much. but won’t you be just sleepy?

dunno what it’s gonna be like at all. so many different ways to be in the hosp. 3 days away. <twitch a hand to hold yours?

think m’m will be there. can you have it?

to an extent. i will hold yours in spirit – ahem of course if it is feeling something and not under sleep from anaesthesie

who knows that that wouldn’t enhance the effect. now young lady, you might have to show me the way also with your courage because lately i am pushing away my own operation and i am avoiding my doctor as if he have the pest because i know he will talk me to go there and i don’t want to anymore ahahahaha, you didn’t expected that isn’t it??

i was starting to wonder. what is best, i don’t know. but you had better aim for the best for you. u know u r important that u r. yupyup. we be tellin you that. but, seems like i do need inspiration and courage, i am a bit tired myself so, maybe we could do it as for kids when they are so afraid of the seringe for the injection for the vaccination???

k. ok, so we are both shaky and foggy and scared.

indeed. (this is the pep talk!? <g) would you think we will get a lollypop after??

me n sis got some from gas station attendant other day when out, but she is a total babe. (gee, i can’t have sugar, what can i get then??)

oh, we find something. or maybe not food. we do a movie or something. quality time with the geese? <g if you go…. i will consider to go :p

u best! D phoenix who learnt lately that asking for help is ok asking for help is healthy asking for help bring very good things in one’s life

yeah, good on ya! askin for help can bring very good things. we be seen truth of that. — Oilo hau kokorarazka ari da bainan ez du erruten

u still gots to tell us what that say. oh, someone translated this: "per modo in linguis exanimis dicitur veritam non facit." Literally, "just because it is being said in a dead language does not make it the truth." thought it was funny. peas n good thots, embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

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hihi C!! personaly would take music of some kind. we take our minidisc plyr most places, for sevral resons,that i like to have music on, n that frankii finds it helps her anxiety when shes out. tho we kinda figured it wasnt always the music that helped her, cos when the baterys ran out, n it was still on, it meant ppl didnt talk to her n ask her questons, or try to sell stuff etc, cos they didnt think shed hear lol.

/me laughs an thinks that not so bad an idea. kinda like armor or invisibility cloak, or just sticking fingers in ears and yelling "i’m not listening!  i’m not listening!!"  <giggles so maybe just wear it without the music if the music will make it worse ;p

u r wise. i would say its probly bout pickin the right kinda music y’know, not somethin thats gonna remind ya of somthin or get ya in a weird mood, somthin upbeat?

yeah, we are lookin at what we have around. ost of our music is emotive. that’s kinda why we forget that music exists when we are not in feelin. we can forget for months. and we love music so much. used to sing. (still have shower performances.)  funny that. anyway, we tend not to buy music that doesn’t move us, cuz we can only buy so much. even notes might cause emotion. but we are thinking that the pop stations come in best, so maybe we could try radio soft in there to drown out the major noise. as i think about it, any use of our body name (either of the two) is like to make us jump. and the ppl are gonna be all t’uchin us anyway. :P gee, why am i so not excited about this? thanks for the tip C, and thank frankii for being ingenious. peas n stuff, embies – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – C. hi guys, need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? what else you think will help. we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb.

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hiya embies hihi phoenix friend.

hi gentle embies ) i have been foggy lately, why do you need another operation for your arm? yeah. but on the side, this one is supposed to work.

oh it is repair work then, that sound good, it will make things better for you. and are you going to not be able to type after it? lkast time i was able to pick left handed after a bit. it takes a while, but i think i have a lot of the skills left (i hope.)  but yes, i’m going to be a bit cut off, cuz i won’t be able to be here for a bit. i mean, may i ask for the implications? get to go spend some quality time next door with the rents. and boring stuff about relearning to use the arm, it becomming itself again.

oh i see, thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and oooh for the hospital, i am going to send you as much good energy and thoughts as possible. thanks.  those will be much appreciated. yupyup. what to bring?? your favorite book? gonna bring a library’s version of it, cuz we l’ve our books too much. but won’t you be just sleepy? dunno what it’s gonna be like at all. so many different ways to be in the hosp. 3 days away. <twitch

when will you get in?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – a hand to hold yours? think m’m will be there. can you have it? to an extent. i will hold yours in spirit – ahem of course if it is feeling something and not under sleep from anaesthesie who knows that that wouldn’t enhance the effect. now young lady, you might have to show me the way also with your courage because lately i am pushing away my own operation and i am avoiding my doctor as if he have the pest because i know he will talk me to go there and i don’t want to anymore ahahahaha, you didn’t expected that isn’t it?? i was starting to wonder. what is best, i don’t know. but you had better aim for the best for you. u know u r important that u r. yupyup. we be tellin you that.

i think what is best now is for me to rest and feel and think. i still can go in winter later, i can take my time of course the doctor would want me to go quickly but the only consequences are me being in pains but i am more careful now, i have learned what i can do, i have change habits, and i have considerably limited the pains. i am not taking risks, i am respecting a few rules and they aren’t heavy, just i am refusing to do some stuff or doing others in other ways to be sure to not get stuck and badly hurting, it is functioning quite well, i am still with pains but i tolerate them better and even my mood now seems to be stabilized about this. but, seems like i do need inspiration and courage, i am a bit tired myself so, maybe we could do it as for kids when they are so afraid of the seringe for the injection for the vaccination??? k. ok, so we are both shaky and foggy and scared. indeed. (this is the pep talk!? <g)

would you think we will get a lollypop after?? me n sis got some from gas station attendant other day when out, but she is a total babe. (gee, i can’t have sugar, what can i get then??) oh, we find something. or maybe not food. we do a movie or something. quality time with the geese? <g

great, ok for a movie now i do have to consider to travel for sure – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if you go…. i will consider to go :p u best! D phoenix who learnt lately that asking for help is ok asking for help is healthy asking for help bring very good things in one’s life yeah, good on ya! askin for help can bring very good things. we be seen truth of that. — Oilo hau kokorarazka ari da bainan ez du erruten u still gots to tell us what that say.

it is a secret oh, someone translated this: "per modo in linguis exanimis dicitur veritam non facit." Literally, "just because it is being said in a dead language does not make it the truth." thought it was funny.

yes, it is, but it is not a dead language it is in basque, a full language peas n good thots, embies

lots of good thoughts to you also embies i just had an idea, maybe you could bring the ferret with you and hide it there?? once a friend of mine had to spend a couple of days at the hospital and i didn’t wanted to go back home and she hided me for that time, it was great fun be well phoenix

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hi embies, hihi linda. did we do the fake spammers out thing right?  we tried to do yours from memory cuz it was posted w/o it.

wow, you noticed and remembered!! not so "muddy" or "pea soupy" as you thought…eh? i like what the others said. don’t take your powerbook. not even my d’d’s ipod.

yeah, that either!  ;) things have a way of "disappearing" in places like hospitals. ya. we afraid of that with stuffy, not that someone would want them for same reason.

i think stuffies are pretty safe.  mostly would be maybe mislaid or something with linens and such.  can you put a "bracelet" on them too like you will get so they know who they belong too? they took my jewelery and watch away and put it in a safe till i was discharged. i don;t think they took any of my stuff last time. no, actually, all credit cards and money and stuff was just in my room. crazy. last time tho we did not get to really choose what we brought.

oh that was lucky you still had them later.  i understand about not getting to choose.  btdt stuffies is good and music is good. a good book that keeps you engrossed. would they let you watch video’s ?(fun ones) we have no idea what we are getting selves into. we gotta figure out what is going to happen, but last time we went in the place our brain had mud in it. (ok, dissociation, but might as well have been.

if it’s for a day it should pass pretty quickly, me thinks. [big hug] i thought this trip would help your arm be more useful. isn’t that so? yup. we kinda miswrote. hopefully we corrected that mess up. this should make it so they take the metal and stuff out that kept us from healing so now we can heal.

that was kinda what i thought.  it will be good to get it healing properly.   i hope it works so you can get over this part of your trauma with it. it’s been a really rough row to hoe for you. other stuff thats happened too. if you want to talk, give me a ring or let me know when your on. k? k. much thanks. we are betting that before we are all healed up you will be getting a ring.  we are sure ready to be done with this. very ready.

ready and waiting.  pay no attention to message on machine.  i haven’t fixed it yet.  if machine is on at all.  (having damned’est time finding batteries for handsets so went back to regular phone) w*lmart had zillions but no megahertz listed on them and she wouldn’t open packages for me to turn them around.  dummies.  r.shack here we come. hope you can be healed in time for the trip to Ca. and meeting old friends. we can hope. sure missed it right well last time, eh?

yeah!!  this time stay on the road and no side tracks!!! [gentle tease] wish i could go this time but i am not living in NEng. anymore. *sigh* i’ll never be able to come up with the air fare the way i’m going. i feel your sigh, and who am i to complain?   but we can dream about a return to NE someday. even for a visit. too bad you can’t get travel miles from how many times you have to travel for docs and stuff now that you are too far from everything. (that could never happen in RI.

yeah, i know you know how i feel. i love NE.  i hope to move back there someday.  i blew off my appointments today at the va.  so tired of the long drive to get there and little sleep last nite.  lots of rain too so it would take four hours instead of three.  so bad linda said "f— it!" was bl**d test and mental health intake.  i’ll get the b. test done at a smaller clinic closer and not care about the other. except for meds. i’ll maybe send a treat for you all or something. you can tell me all about it later. wish i could cell call you from there, but it’s .65 a min there, not like from home. maybe call cards. they are d’ad useful. maybe we can do reverse care package. send you a trout covered in dark almond brickle.

that is high.  it’s ok, don’t jack up your bill cause of me.  i still have something like four hundred minutes on my c*stco phone card. was a way good deal. 19 bucks for 670 min. anytime. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – lots of hugs and warm wishes, linda thanks linda, you’re tops. we hope we can be soon back with our friends and to type whenever we want, more than now. on plus side, we have furniture and a shower curtain now, so life is quite much better. our bathroom is absolutely wal-mart-errific. *much affection* (i think that is allowable here. irl we would sqoosh you with a hug, you know. embies

well, we care about you(s) and think you’re tops too. ) glad to hear that you are getting more set up now.  i still have to get C’s bathroom set up. did i tell you what one of new kitties did? amber-the one year old h*llion.(e)  she jumped up onto the shower rod and balanced for a whole….4 sec. on it and shedded it all the way down. (was cheapie that came with trailer) <–no biggie. i want nice one anyway and since when does he take shower? |8-/ you take very good care and come back ready to heal so you can when i get out that way.  it will happen. promise.   much affection to you my friend. peas, linda (you have FURNITURE???!!)  ;-))

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – need a help on this one, if u gots. we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. could not make brain click. we get all spacey and…. just remembering make us get that way. we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. you got any person to bring?  safe person waiting for you to wake up? well…. we got the m’m, but we have no clue about her stayin or nothin. she be pretty good tho. some can really h’g her n stuff. she might not stay tho, who knows with her. she can be bang on amazing woman or otherwise. we are hoping for wunderm’m to be there that day. <g

hope so.  got a magic powder to turn her into wundermum? we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! they won’t let you wear anything under gown until you’re awake enough to put it on yourself. they will let you have stuffy after you get done with "recovery room" part. sounds like voice of experience. we are so afraid to lose a stuffy in the place, but so want one. no guarantees in life tho, eh?

don’t think anyone would steal a stuffy, tho.  silly them, they don’t know real value when they see it. books earplugs or music? music might be a good idea. calming music. yodeling elk of the bayou? <g

yup. (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our you expecting to hear lots of screams?  why? oh, from us. embarrassing. (and raises the adrenaline level a tad) but ptsd hypervigilance/exaggerated startle response. it’s annoying as heck when it goes off, and something about it is wonky cuz it doesn’t de-escalate even when same stimulus is applied. dunno why. but it’s not unstoppable screaming or anything (thankfully). we don’t carry on or get all out, we just get so startleable (word?. it’s breif, one scream/yelp/curdle, but embarrassing. could not be an issue. depends if stuff gets shut off. i don’t know how it works.

even with all the good meds they put you to sleep with? attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring and only day surgery. stuffy to cuddle. yeah?

yeah oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal about little thing. stuffy to cuddle and music. oh really?

really then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the arm again!!!" the docs didn’t tell you that, did they? oh, egads, we meant use for a while. boy did we mess with ppl. we feel so embarrassed about that. ugh. dangling modifiers: the "again" is "like before" not "ever again" *thankfully*. does make us take stock of our lucky stars. (mars, venus, and other sattelites we can see too.

ok. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ugh, much ugh. we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl look an we *not* want that. we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we get our meds for anxiety. what else? meds for anxiety would help, yes. what else you think will help. person? yeah?  (we giggle, cuz we see the message. get a person, a stuffy, and music. must be the KISS principle for us. we got the message. is good advice. thanks.

welks – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we are afraid and soooo fretty. probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno lots of ppls here have health probs. ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask practical help. practically asking for help, aren’t we? ughughugh. u know? embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. good luck. — astri thanks astri! and happy belated b-day to you and C. what a beautiful little family you have. we are glad in that as a thing we have seen in our lifetime.

thanks and yeah peas n luvs (or potty training by now, eh? , embies

just call me potty mouth….  ;) — astri

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well…. we got the m’m, but we have no clue about her stayin or nothin. she be pretty good tho. some can really h’g her n stuff. she might not stay tho, who knows with her. she can be bang on amazing woman or otherwise. we are hoping for wunderm’m to be there that day. <g hope so. got a magic powder to turn her into wundermum?

effexor. but it’s not 100% effective. works a heck of a lot for the greater good, though.  vicodin works too. she like that, but we want her awake and alert. we are so afraid to lose a stuffy in the place, but so want one. no guarantees in life tho, eh? don’t think anyone would steal a stuffy, tho. silly them, they don’t know real value when they see it.

yeah, silly rabbits, stuffies are for everyone!  but yeah, we think it could be mislaid, but linda had a good idea for putting armbands on stuffies, and it may serve a double purpose. books earplugs or music? music might be a good idea. calming music. yodeling elk of the bayou? <g yup.

yodele yodele yodele hee hoo we are the yodeling elk of the bayou yodele yodele yodele hee hoo we are here to help to mend you (yes you-hoo). (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to get our you expecting to hear lots of screams?  why? oh, from us. embarrassing. (and raises the adrenaline level a tad) but ptsd hypervigilance/exaggerated startle response. it’s annoying as heck when it goes off, and something about it is wonky cuz it doesn’t de-escalate even when same stimulus is applied. dunno why. but it’s not unstoppable screaming or anything (thankfully). we don’t carry on or get all out, we just get so startleable (word?. it’s breif, one scream/yelp/curdle, but embarrassing. could not be an issue. depends if stuff gets shut off. i don’t know how it works. even with all the good meds they put you to sleep with?

we can diss meds pretty well. i mean, not everything we’re gonna get in anecantspellitstesia, but outside of being knocked out we can well sustain anxiety.  (all our grounding stuff is failing us a bit here, which makes us think that we need to make some extra effort in that area. ugh, effort.:P)   i spoke to a nurse about it on the phone, though, and she said to take our meds and check in with the nurses and anecantspellitstesiologist and they would try to help. yeah? yeah oh really? really yeah?  (we giggle, cuz we see the message. get a person, a stuffy, and music. must be the KISS principle for us. we got the message. is good advice. thanks. welks

 it’s funny. as we work through this, learn more, and hash this out here it does become simpler all aroud. the unreasonable fear thing is still big and enough to make me shake and quake, but the frantic circling is slowing down and we seem to have more direction and information to fight with. it feels like firmer ground, not as much earth falling out from under us free-fall. and i have to understand that there are some hospital ptsd issues from last time, and from psych hosps to deal with, and stuff with restraint, and also remembering that part of this might be connected to how there had been a su/si self-sabotage (ss?) plan for messing up the operation. (we had forgotten this, but it popped up when we did a little internal digging.)  kinda like, "hi, there are issues here you know!"  so we learned some stuff. and happy belated b-day to you and C. what a beautiful little family you have. we are glad in that as a thing we have seen in our lifetime. thanks and yeah

they were hard fought for. all that healing and stuff. <smiles peas n luvs (or potty training by now, eh? , embies just call me potty mouth….

/me solomnly crosses fingers, places them behind her back and says, "we wouldn’t do that!" — astri

much appreciation, potty mouth. (sir lala must have great aim! cheerios! <giggle  do you know the cheerios trick?? peace from our pieces, embies Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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hi embies, hihi linda. did we do the fake spammers out thing right?  we tried to do yours from memory cuz it was posted w/o it. wow, you noticed and remembered!! not so "muddy" or "pea soupy" as you thought…eh?

yes, we did a brilliant rendition of shakespeare’s "your email munge" by heart. we are well proud. <g i like what the others said. don’t take your powerbook. not even my d’d’s ipod. yeah, that either!  ;)

like we’d ever get to touch the thing, unless he is having tech difficulties. then it is "helphelphelp!"  omgoodness!  i am turning into chris!!! <g things have a way of "disappearing" in places like hospitals. ya. we afraid of that with stuffy, not that someone would want them for same reason. i think stuffies are pretty safe. mostly would be maybe mislaid or something with linens and such. can you put a "bracelet" on them too like you will get so they know who they belong too?

that is the bestest idea!!!!  we and our stuffies can both have bracelets. maybe that will help the kids to see that there is stuff around the stuffies wrists too. (we have wrist issues – just thinking aboutit – shiver )  sometimes we wish ppl could see the kids so that they could get the explaination of what was to happen in kid terms. we’re not connected enough to translate well. they took my jewelery and watch away and put it in a safe till i was discharged. i don;t think they took any of my stuff last time. no, actually, all credit cards and money and stuff was just in my room. crazy. last time tho we did not get to really choose what we brought. oh that was lucky you still had them later. i understand about not getting to choose. btdt

we bet!  we’re sorry about your jewelry though. that’s rotten. i mean, you’re already sick and in the hosp, like you need to be robbed too!?  not hardly. stuffies is good and music is good. a good book that keeps you engrossed. would they let you watch video’s ?(fun ones) we have no idea what we are getting selves into. we gotta figure out what is going to happen, but last time we went in the place our brain had mud in it. (ok, dissociation, but might as well have been. if it’s for a day it should pass pretty quickly, me thinks. [big hug]

/me wraps hug round self. {{{thanks}}} we called and talked to nurse and she say about how it is to be and there are goods and bads to how it be. the ppl can watch you 100% of time which is scary but also we not get lost or not be able to get help like last time so is good. they just don’t have the option we want: surgery by m’gic wand. i thought this trip would help your arm be more useful. isn’t that so? yup. we kinda miswrote. hopefully we corrected that mess up. this should make it so they take the metal and stuff out that kept us from healing so now we can heal. that was kinda what i thought. it will be good to get it healing properly.

be about time, no? then we can quit talkin everyone’s ears off about it. <self-deprecating grin i hope it works so you can get over this part of your trauma with it. it’s been a really rough row to hoe for you. other stuff thats happened too. if you want to talk, give me a ring or let me know when your on. k? k. much thanks. we are betting that before we are all healed up you will be getting a ring. we are sure ready to be done with this. very ready. ready and waiting. pay no attention to message on machine. i haven’t fixed it yet.

we never fixed ours either. our robot voice answers, but it is better than ppl think that a girl live in house by herself. if machine is on at all. (having damned’est time finding batteries for handsets so went back to regular phone) w*lmart had zillions but no megahertz listed on them and she wouldn’t open packages for me to turn them around. dummies. r.shack here we come.

ugh. i met the bestest w’lmart person when i was doing the big dig. we actually called up and waited on hold to publically acknowledge her. if not for her, we would have been so lost. it was a big deal. we ran into dummies too, but more good ppl this time, thankfully. hope you can be healed in time for the trip to Ca. and meeting old friends. we can hope. sure missed it right well last time, eh? yeah!! this time stay on the road and no side tracks!!! [gentle tease]

Beauty is no side track! she was a planned destination on a poorly mapped trip. wish i could go this time but i am not living in NEng. anymore. *sigh* i’ll never be able to come up with the air fare the way i’m going. i feel your sigh, and who am i to complain?   but we can dream about a return to NE someday. even for a visit. too bad you can’t get travel miles from how many times you have to travel for docs and stuff now that you are too far from everything. (that could never happen in RI. yeah, i know you know how i feel. i love NE. i hope to move back there someday.

i know. we feel guilty that we get to be here when you don’t. but if you were here you would be wondering what the heck was up with the weather anyway. i blew off my appointments today at the va.

uh oh….. so tired of the long drive to get there and little sleep last nite. lots of rain too so it would take four hours instead of three. so bad linda said "f— it!" was bl**d test and mental health intake. i’ll get the b. test done at a smaller clinic closer and not care about the other. except for meds.

ok, but don’t let them use it against you, ok?  (like i get any say. i’ll maybe send a treat for you all or something. you can tell me all about it later. wish i could cell call you from there, but it’s .65 a min there, not like from home. maybe call cards. they are d’ad useful. maybe we can do reverse care package. send you a trout covered in dark almond brickle. that is high. it’s ok, don’t jack up your bill cause of me. i still have something like four hundred minutes on my c*stco phone card. was a way good deal. 19 bucks for 670 min. anytime.

luckily i’m not in canada, so nights and weekends are free. but if you ask around you will find that calls get dropped. maybe less now that we are losing our arm’s internal antennae scrambler. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – lots of hugs and warm wishes, linda thanks linda, you’re tops. we hope we can be soon back with our friends and to type whenever we want, more than now. on plus side, we have furniture and a shower curtain now, so life is quite much better. our bathroom is absolutely wal-mart-errific. *much affection* (i think that is allowable here. irl we would sqoosh you with a hug, you know. embies well, we care about you(s) and think you’re tops too. )

<giggles this meeting of the mutual admiration society will now come to disorder! glad to hear that you are getting more set up now. i still have to get C’s bathroom set up. did i tell you what one of new kitties did? amber-the one year old h*llion.(e)  she jumped up onto the shower rod and balanced for a whole….4 sec. on it and shedded it all the way down. (was cheapie that came with trailer) <–no biggie. i want nice one anyway and since when does he take shower? |8-/

we have w’lmart bordeux roses all over our bathroom now. is very pretty, but we think that maybe C would not appreciate pretty purple roses.  we do miss our butterflies though. we are not sure we took pics though of them. that is sad to us. we like pics to remember. you take very good care and come back ready to heal so you can when i get out that way. it will happen. promise.

k. thank u for idea about wristband for stuffies. is good idea. byebye and night and mornin and all that jazz. much affection to you my friend.

and you please take care of our friend linda. {{{hugs}}} embies peas, linda (you have FURNITURE???!!)  ;-))

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 gentle embies ) hihi gain phoenix. <grinz i have been foggy lately, why do you need another operation for your arm? yeah. but on the side, this one is supposed to work. oh it is repair work then, that sound good, it will make things better for you.

yes, we will be embies and all her *working* 2000 parts. (ok, mostly working, ever aging. [snip] dunno what it’s gonna be like at all. so many different ways to be in the hosp. 3 days away. <twitch when will you get in??

they’re doing arm hardware removal (with ‘lectric screwdrivers and everything!) on thurs morn, so far as we know. and we know more now than we did before.  no more badly bionic us. now young lady, you might have to show me the way also with your courage because lately i am pushing away my own operation and i am avoiding my doctor as if he have the pest because i know he will talk me to go there and i don’t want to anymore ahahahaha, you didn’t expected that isn’t it?? i was starting to wonder. what is best, i don’t know. but you had better aim for the best for you. u know u r important that u r. yupyup. we be tellin you that. i think what is best now is for me to rest and feel and think.

k. i can’t take any stand to contradict that. i still can go in winter later, i can take my time of course the doctor would want me to go quickly

and he’d be wrong because? but the only consequences are me being in pains

that sounds no fun. but i am more careful now, i

that sounds no fun. have learned what i can do, i have change habits, and i have considerably limited the pains. i am not taking risks, i am respecting a few rules and they aren’t heavy, just i am refusing to do some stuff or doing others in other ways to be sure to not get stuck and badly hurting, it is functioning quite well, i am still with pains but i tolerate them better

i got lost when you were considering going back to work, as they were hounding you and all. did you end up doing that at all?  sorry, we can’t remember now. and even my mood now seems to be stabilized about this.

well, that’s definately a plus. care to light the pathway?<g (gee, i can’t have sugar, what can i get then??) oh, we find something. or maybe not food. we do a movie or something. quality time with the geese? <g great, ok for a movie now i do have to consider to travel for sure

we got a couch that makes a bed now!  we have an extra bedroom too, the one with closets in it, but it seems that a mouse has made his/her home there. we will have to find hir tomorrow or we will likely have too much time pass before we can get to hir again. some ratter my dog turned out to be. didn’t notice mousie sneak into the kitchen, and then barely lifted her head when mousie went back. things to consider when traveling in new england: if you don’t like the weather, wait a minute. high temps this week are as follows:  70, 56, 72, 56, 60. they look like high and lows, but they are different days in sequence. i think the seasons are multiple and they rapid switch. other things to consider: at least it’s not winter. — Oilo hau kokorarazka ari da bainan ez du erruten u still gots to tell us what that say. it is a secret

u mean we gots 2 make sumthinn up?  ok, we try. we think the last part is maybe something about "it is" but perhaps ez is the form of "to be". we are bad with laguages. so, first guess: your kimono is covered in bananas, yes it is. second guess: oh, how kindergarteners were the bain of my existance, when i was a crayon in my past life. oh, someone translated this: "per modo in linguis exanimis dicitur veritam non facit." Literally, "just because it is being said in a dead language does not make it the truth." thought it was funny. yes, it is, but it is not a dead language it is in basque, a full language

oh, we know it not likely a dead language (tho we can’t claim to know it for sure) but we thught you would appreciate. peas n good thots, embies lots of good thoughts to you also embies i just had an idea, maybe you could bring the ferret with you and hide it there??

oh, no, not yoshi. she nips, unfortunately. once a friend of mine had to spend a couple of days at the hospital and i didn’t wanted to go back home and she hided me for that time, it was great fun

giggle. we brough a rabbit to a psych hospital once and hid it in our coat pocket, but we think you would not fit in our coat pocket, so maybe our ferret yoshi looks like a better bet. besides, they got all sorts of annoyed with us at the psychh hospital, and we really want the ppl at this hospital to do us a favor and let us keep the hardware that was in our arm so we will try to not tick them off with live stuffies. be well phoenix

yous too! embieseseseseses Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth Boorstin — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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When I was in that place recently I brought lotsa books, but with your wing in a sling that might be just frustratizing.  Do bring a pair of lightweight cheap headphones for the TV though. Peace and strength, Tide Rider

| uh, **big** oops on this guys if we in any way made u think we were | going 2 not have an arm after this. we are not having an arm in a way | that means that we are not going to be able to *use it* for a while. | (and we are a bit afraid, because last time it was a long while and | there were annoying complications, thus surgery #2.)  but we so get to | keep our arm and are veryvery glad in part because this will make it | more like the arm we used to have. a good old boring arm that tells the | weather/barometric pressure. | | sooo sorry if we scared anyone or freaked anyone out. eek. sorry. | | ok, on to trying to respond to all the nice things here. | | sorry again! | | peace from our pieces, embies | | hi guys, | | need a help on this one, if u gots. | | we are gettin twitchy about arm surgery coming up. | we get all freaky when we go for test and that was just the building. | and we need to ask ppl to keep repeating words and stuff. | could not make brain click. | we get all spacey and…. | just remembering make us get that way. | we wonder, we need things maybe keep us feel ok. | is only day surgery, but the places scare us so. | | we think maybe stuffy something to wear under gown! books earplugs or | music? (dunno, might keep out some screams but if they need to touch us to | get our attention, could make worse.) maybe shawl or something we would so | bring a blanket if we didn’t feel so self conscious about what to bring | and only day surgery. | | oh, we’re so worried about taking too much too. feel like making big deal | about little thing. | | then in brain we hear, "it is a big deal!! we are not going to have the | arm again!!!" | | ugh, much ugh. | | we get veryveryvery bad ptsd hypervigilance in h places. scream a lot | (sometimes like a yip, but sometimes a whole scream.) don’t mean to | sososoo much. if could not, would not, cuz it makes things worse an ppl | look an we *not* want that. | | we got a note from doc to tell them this, he know we not want things | like that to happen, and also note says that they need to make sure we | get our meds for anxiety. | | what else? | | what else you think will help. | | we are afraid and soooo fretty. | | probably not much can do really, but figure this group is good to ask. kno | lots of ppls here have health probs. | | ugh, not supposed to be a note to complain. supposed to be to ask | practical help. | | practically asking for help, aren’t we? | | ughughugh. | | u know? | | embieses, freakin a tad. <like on an off all time for week now, n have | till thurs to deal!!!!!!! <hospital hit us like ton of bricks, not | expected to go all wonky like we did. we been in hospitals since just | for doc appts. dunno why alla sudden. i mean, how our brain know to | panic for this one an n ot all the others. that so dumb. | | | Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth | Boorstin | | [snip] | | | Be bold in what you stand for and careful of what you fall for. ~ Ruth | Boorstin | | | | | | — | For more information about this posting service, contact: | If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: | | https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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