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1. gyn appointment tomorrow. Don’t know what the doc will be telling me…hopefully I’ll be reporting that nothing is wrong, or that I just have to have a D & C and I am starting to go through menapause. My period lasted for 2 weeks, I had very bad cramps and I had spotting in between. 2. Stressed out ’cause my cat ripped the neighbors pool. My neighbor called today to tell me that my cat has been at the edge of their pool drinking water….that she may rip the pool and that the chlorine could hurt her. Then I back out of the driveway in my car and who do I see leaning over into the neighbors pool…?..right..my cat. So I stop the car, run in the house, get a squirter with water and spray water on the cat. She immediately falls into the pool, immediately swam and ran out of the pool. Then upon my return to home I drive down my driveway and who greets me? My neighbor comes over to tell me that their pool is now deflating…so I give them a check for the cost of the pool and some. Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I know the pool will only be a problem for the summer months as I live in New England but do any other cat owners have any suggestions? Any wise words would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to be complaining so much. You’re the only people I can complain to that doesn’t get upset with me.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2. Stressed out ’cause my cat ripped the neighbors pool. My neighbor called today to tell me that my cat has been at the edge of their pool drinking water….that she may rip the pool and that the chlorine could hurt her. Then I back out of the driveway in my car and who do I see leaning over into the neighbors pool…?..right..my cat. So I stop the car, run in the house, get a squirter with water and spray water on the cat. She immediately falls into the pool, immediately swam and ran out of the pool. Then upon my return to home I drive down my driveway and who greets me? My neighbor comes over to tell me that their pool is now deflating…so I give them a check for the cost of the pool and some. Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I know the pool will only be a problem for the summer months as I live in New England but do any other cat owners have any suggestions? Any wise words would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to be complaining so much. You’re the only people I can complain to that doesn’t get upset with me.
We-ell… here in the UK the cat owner would *not* be held liable, as in UK law a cat is seen as a ‘free-spirit’ not trainable in the same way dogs are and reflecting the nature of cats. So you could move to the UK 
Put it this way – If I were concerned a neighbour’s cat could ruin a pool in my garden, I’d not be buying one that a cat could damage. Perhaps they should be replacing it with one not so easy to damage – it must be very delicate if a cat claw can damage it so much. Heaven knows what they’d do if they placed it on a small sharp stone… The idea of them having a water squirter is a good one – as that can deter the cat without harming it. Plus the idea of you having a small pool in your own garden is too. Actually I’m exceedingly surprised the cat will drink the water if it is chlorinated – usually cats can’t stand chlorinated water. As your cat has now fallen in the pool, it may well be the incident that keeps her away from it in future. Cheers, helen s
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Oh, you poor thing, sounds like a stressful time. One suggestion for your cat, get a little pool for your yard, maybe she’ll drink out of yours instead? You might even get a small fountain, it might attract her more than the pool does. I hope all goes well at your doctor’s appt. I need to find a new doctor here, but I just hate these appts. Michelle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1. gyn appointment tomorrow. Don’t know what the doc will be telling me…hopefully I’ll be reporting that nothing is wrong, or that I just have to have a D & C and I am starting to go through menapause. My period lasted for 2 weeks, I had very bad cramps and I had spotting in between. 2. Stressed out ’cause my cat ripped the neighbors pool. My neighbor called today to tell me that my cat has been at the edge of their pool drinking water….that she may rip the pool and that the chlorine could hurt her. Then I back out of the driveway in my car and who do I see leaning over into the neighbors pool…?..right..my cat. So I stop the car, run in the house, get a squirter with water and spray water on the cat. She immediately falls into the pool, immediately swam and ran out of the pool. Then upon my return to home I drive down my driveway and who greets me? My neighbor comes over to tell me that their pool is now deflating…so I give them a check for the cost of the pool and some. Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I know the pool will only be a problem for the summer months as I live in New England but do any other cat owners have any suggestions? Any wise words would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to be complaining so much. You’re the only people I can complain to that doesn’t get upset with me.
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Michelle and Helen, Thank you soooo much for replying. The thought of a small wading pool sounds really good. I’ll be buying one today. I also know that by late this afternoon, I’ll have already gone to the doc…so whatever I find out, I’ll decide one avenue to take once I get answers to my multiple problems.
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Thanks all of you for lending a hand to help me out. The cat stayed in yesterday. I can’t take a chance of her going over again to the neighbors pool. I know she was scared when i squirted her and she fell in the pool, but I don’t know if she is capable of remembering her submersion into the pool and the trauma of having to swim and get out of it. I just can’t take a chance with these neighbors. Ugh..i am going to take it one day at a time. Luckily one of my kids doesn’t have work today so they’ll have a watchful eye out for her. My visit with my new gyn went well. He is an extremely knowledgable doc and shows a tremendous amount of support. His nurses were just as nice. He pretty much sees signs that I am in perimenapause, which is the beginning stages of menapause. I just have to have a hystoscopy next month to make sure everything is OK and in normal shape. Thanks again for all of your support and kindness!!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I’d be very willing to bet that after her dip in the pool today after you sprayed her she won’t go anywhere near the pool. I’ve had cats all my life, she won’t forget anytime soon that the last time she went for a drink she also went for a swim. There are cats who are "water babies" and love to swim, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Keep an eye out, but I think the problem may have solved itself. Best of luck to you, about the cat and the gyn appointment. Dana
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/snip/ Actually I’m exceedingly surprised the cat will drink the water if it is chlorinated – usually cats can’t stand chlorinated water.
/snip/ All of our cats (4) drink from our chlorinated pool on occasion.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1. gyn appointment tomorrow. Don’t know what the doc will be telling me…hopefully I’ll be reporting that nothing is wrong, or that I just have to have a D & C and I am starting to go through menapause. My period lasted for 2 weeks, I had very bad cramps and I had spotting in between. 2. Stressed out ’cause my cat ripped the neighbors pool. My neighbor called today to tell me that my cat has been at the edge of their pool drinking water….that she may rip the pool and that the chlorine could hurt her. Then I back out of the driveway in my car and who do I see leaning over into the neighbors pool…?..right..my cat. So I stop the car, run in the house, get a squirter with water and spray water on the cat. She immediately falls into the pool, immediately swam and ran out of the pool. Then upon my return to home I drive down my driveway and who greets me? My neighbor comes over to tell me that their pool is now deflating…so I give them a check for the cost of the pool and some. Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I know the pool will only be a problem for the summer months as I live in New England but do any other cat owners have any suggestions? Any wise words would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to be complaining so much. You’re the only people I can complain to that doesn’t get upset with me.
A couple of observations on Mr or Ms Cat. Either has to be a pretty big damn cat, or a pretty damn small pool. Since you said it was chlorinated I suspect it isn’t all that little of a pool. If that is the case your neighbor should really have their yard fenced off lest some little kid come by fall in and drown. An unfenced pool is what is known as an attractive nuisance and your neighbor could be held liable. Another option is to fence your own yard if your don’t want Mr or Ms Kitty prowling all over your hood. I hope it is at least fixed if you let it run loose.
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Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house.
I’d be very willing to bet that after her dip in the pool today after you sprayed her she won’t go anywhere near the pool. I’ve had cats all my life, she won’t forget anytime soon that the last time she went for a drink she also went for a swim. There are cats who are "water babies" and love to swim, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Keep an eye out, but I think the problem may have solved itself. Best of luck to you, about the cat and the gyn appointment. Dana
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in the UK do people kill cats often ? i know that if your cat tore up my pool and you did not repay me you would have 1 dead cat to deal with.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2. Stressed out ’cause my cat ripped the neighbors pool. My neighbor called today to tell me that my cat has been at the edge of their pool drinking water….that she may rip the pool and that the chlorine could hurt her. Then I back out of the driveway in my car and who do I see leaning over into the neighbors pool…?..right..my cat. So I stop the car, run in the house, get a squirter with water and spray water on the cat. She immediately falls into the pool, immediately swam and ran out of the pool. Then upon my return to home I drive down my driveway and who greets me? My neighbor comes over to tell me that their pool is now deflating…so I give them a check for the cost of the pool and some. Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I know the pool will only be a problem for the summer months as I live in New England but do any other cat owners have any suggestions? Any wise words would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to be complaining so much. You’re the only people I can complain to that doesn’t get upset with me. We-ell… here in the UK the cat owner would *not* be held liable, as in UK law a cat is seen as a ‘free-spirit’ not trainable in the same way dogs are and reflecting the nature of cats. So you could move to the UK Put it this way – If I were concerned a neighbour’s cat could ruin a pool in my garden, I’d not be buying one that a cat could damage. Perhaps they should be replacing it with one not so easy to damage – it must be very delicate if a cat claw can damage it so much. Heaven knows what they’d do if they placed it on a small sharp stone… The idea of them having a water squirter is a good one – as that can deter the cat without harming it. Plus the idea of you having a small pool in your own garden is too. Actually I’m exceedingly surprised the cat will drink the water if it is chlorinated – usually cats can’t stand chlorinated water. As your cat has now fallen in the pool, it may well be the incident that keeps her away from it in future. Cheers, helen s
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People need to take responsibility for their pets. Therefore it would be more fair/logical to kill the cat’s owner, anyway mk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I think Andrew’s comment was a bit extreme, but I would like to believe that if I had a pool in a fenced yard and someone’s pet destroyed it that they would Of course. As any *reasonable* neighbor would. But I find if hard to believe that any cat could actually puncture a pool with its claws. Then again, anyone in my neighborhood that killed a cat would end up in my garden as compost. Dana
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Well I think Andrew’s comment was a bit extreme, but I would like to believe that if I had a pool in a fenced yard and someone’s pet destroyed it that they would
Of course. As any *reasonable* neighbor would. But I find if hard to believe that any cat could actually puncture a pool with its claws. Then again, anyone in my neighborhood that killed a cat would end up in my garden as compost. Dana
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Well I think Andrew’s comment was a bit extreme, but I would like to believe that if I had a pool in a fenced yard and someone’s pet destroyed it that they would mk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – in the UK do people kill cats often ? i know that if your cat tore up my pool and you did not repay me you would have 1 dead cat to deal with. <laugh And you think you’d get away with that? Funny. Dana
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in the UK do people kill cats often ? i know that if your cat tore up my pool and you did not repay me you would have 1 dead cat to deal with.
<laugh And you think you’d get away with that? Funny. Dana
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in the UK do people kill cats often ? i know that if your cat tore up my pool and you did not repay me you would have 1 dead cat to deal with.
Watch it, Podner. This is cat country. BobB —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups —-= East and West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—-
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Listen, Dana. I have a heroic little cat name of Roo who, despite being half blind, and being crippled from a stroke, put the hook into my right forefinger while I was combing him (he can’t do the cat thing with his fur) and I had to rip it on through to get loose. Took two stitches and a tetnus shot to fix it up.
<snerk Sorry, Bob. Roo reminds me of Shannon, the Cat From Hell, who at the ripe old age of 21 could back my 100 pound doberman up with no problem. He was terrified of her. We were all terrified of her. I miss her *so* much. Roo could gain access to a Patton tank if he wanted to, and he could deflate a play-pool _en passant_.
You have a point. Roo has several points. Butt-head what’s-his-name who would kill a cat for whatever reason is an idiot and needs to get off my planet. Dana
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I think Andrew’s comment was a bit extreme, but I would like to believe that if I had a pool in a fenced yard and someone’s pet destroyed it that they would Of course. As any *reasonable* neighbor would. But I find if hard to believe that any cat could actually puncture a pool with its claws. Then again, anyone in my neighborhood that killed a cat would end up in my garden as compost. Dana
Listen, Dana. I have a heroic little cat name of Roo who, despite being half blind, and being crippled from a stroke, put the hook into my right forefinger while I was combing him (he can’t do the cat thing with his fur) and I had to rip it on through to get loose. Took two stitches and a tetnus shot to fix it up. Roo could gain access to a Patton tank if he wanted to, and he could deflate a play-pool _en passant_. BobB —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups —-= East and West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—-
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People need to take responsibility for their pets. Therefore it would be more fair/logical to kill the cat’s owner, anyway mk Then again, anyone in my neighborhood that killed a cat would end up in my garden as compost. Dana
Holy cow! And so, Group; as you can see: The Great Cat Wars, like all wars, do escalate. BobB —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups —-= East and West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—-
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just to update everyone. My cat went outside by mistake last week. She won’t go near the pool. I think that little swim that she had to take right after I squirted her with water was enough to keep her away forever. So far….so good. :) Good news! Cheers, helen s There is a "phenomenon" in experimental psychology (and, common sense), called "one trial learning", which comes down to learning while in a trauma, and to be rewarded by finding the way out of the trauma. It often last a lifetime in young animals. They learn not to allow themselves to be in the same traumatic situation again, and this may generalize to some extent to being more careful about getting into siuations which could lead to trauma. IOW, they learn to avoid avoidable trauma. It also may be the reason that those who are traumatically abused, and broken away, can have difficulty over the years, because they have been trained to avoid trauma, which some interpret as stress and anxiety, and they live closeted lives. We love cats. We have 2, 7 yr. old DS sisters, Annie O. and Casey Lightning, MDs. They are both physicians, in private practice. They treat cats, of course, and they did quite well in LA. But, in LA, people take their cats to cats for "understanding medical care". That would not do well here in OR where people appear far more sane and civil. All animials are loved here, but they’re pampered pets, not doctors. They had a www site, but didn’t pay their fees for webmastering my site or theirs. One thing led to another and we took it down, but one never knows. The Lightning Sisters Medical Center may rise from the ashes of cyberspace once again for those who remember its debut. Jack
Jack, I think that the trauma that the animals may go through is similar to what can happen to people that have been traumatized. I have PTSD, and am doing better as the years go on, and have been able to re-visit places that I couldn’t go to for a long time. There still are occasions that it creeps up on me. Just thought I’d share a similarity between our beloved pets and ourselves. Susan
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Just to update everyone. My cat went outside by mistake last week. She won’t go near the pool. I think that little swim that she had to take right after I squirted her with water was enough to keep her away forever. So far….so good. :)
Good news! Cheers, helen s
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Just to update everyone. My cat went outside by mistake last week. She won’t go near the pool. I think that little swim that she had to take right after I squirted her with water was enough to keep her away forever. So far….so good. :) Good news! Cheers, helen s
There is a "phenomenon" in experimental psychology (and, common sense), called "one trial learning", which comes down to learning while in a trauma, and to be rewarded by finding the way out of the trauma. It often last a lifetime in young animals. They learn not to allow themselves to be in the same traumatic situation again, and this may generalize to some extent to being more careful about getting into siuations which could lead to trauma. IOW, they learn to avoid avoidable trauma. It also may be the reason that those who are traumatically abused, and broken away, can have difficulty over the years, because they have been trained to avoid trauma, which some interpret as stress and anxiety, and they live closeted lives. We love cats. We have 2, 7 yr. old DS sisters, Annie O. and Casey Lightning, MDs. They are both physicians, in private practice. They treat cats, of course, and they did quite well in LA. But, in LA, people take their cats to cats for "understanding medical care". That would not do well here in OR where people appear far more sane and civil. All animials are loved here, but they’re pampered pets, not doctors. They had a www site, but didn’t pay their fees for webmastering my site or theirs. One thing led to another and we took it down, but one never knows. The Lightning Sisters Medical Center may rise from the ashes of cyberspace once again for those who remember its debut. Jack
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in the UK do people kill cats often ? i know that if your cat tore up my pool and you did not repay me you would have 1 dead cat to deal with.
*plonk*
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Just to update everyone. My cat went outside by mistake last week. She won’t go near the pool. I think that little swim that she had to take right after I squirted her with water was enough to keep her away forever. So far….so good. :)
See? What a good girl! Dana
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Just to update everyone. My cat went outside by mistake last week. She won’t go near the pool. I think that little swim that she had to take right after I squirted her with water was enough to keep her away forever. So far….so good. :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks all of you for lending a hand to help me out. The cat stayed in yesterday. I can’t take a chance of her going over again to the neighbors pool. I know she was scared when i squirted her and she fell in the pool, but I don’t know if she is capable of remembering her submersion into the pool and the trauma of having to swim and get out of it. I just can’t take a chance with these neighbors. Ugh..i am going to take it one day at a time. Luckily one of my kids doesn’t have work today so they’ll have a watchful eye out for her. My visit with my new gyn went well. He is an extremely knowledgable doc and shows a tremendous amount of support. His nurses were just as nice. He pretty much sees signs that I am in perimenapause, which is the beginning stages of menapause. I just have to have a hystoscopy next month to make sure everything is OK and in normal shape. Thanks again for all of your support and kindness!!!! Now…I don’t know how to keep my cat away from the pool, and she is not trained to do her business in the house. I’d be very willing to bet that after her dip in the pool today after you sprayed her she won’t go anywhere near the pool. I’ve had cats all my life, she won’t forget anytime soon that the last time she went for a drink she also went for a swim. There are cats who are "water babies" and love to swim, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Keep an eye out, but I think the problem may have solved itself. Best of luck to you, about the cat and the gyn appointment. Dana
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Then again, anyone in my neighborhood that killed a cat would end up in my garden as compost. Dana Holy cow! And so, Group; as you can see: The Great Cat Wars, like all wars, do escalate. BobB
Sorry. PMS. (Pass My Shotgun.) Dana
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