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Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? It would help to know. Thanks.
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Tor wrote in message <8gh1en$vm…@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>… >Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? >Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? >It would help to know. Thanks.
Yes I think it can be. At a particular time I would be listening to music…say in the car and then start major anxiety attacks. I finally realized that in my case it was I was picking up on certain words in the song. I’ve heard some say that a door slamming is a trigger. It would vary depending on the past abuse situation I think. Panther
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Hello, The first thing I thought of when I read your post was the sounds that triggered me last year on the 4th of July. The loud bangs and other noises really took their toll on me. Another experience I can share is about music. I know that some days I would riding along in the car, listening to music on the radio and before long I realixed my mood would change. Some days I’d be singing along and then begin to feel irritable and often it would lead to a rage and I could not understand what in the hell was going on——I mean one minute I was fine, then boom, I was off my rocker in a rage. So, I guess that would qualify as a sound being a trigger also. Thanks for letting me share, Jeannie
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Yes I have found that sound is a trigger. I was used for mind control so the sound is part of a call back system. I recall the programmer telling me this and have seen it. The handlers, rapists intentionally used certain sounds and songs to get us to respond. Some of the triggers will alarm a certain reaction or memory. They also used the back of a dollar bill to instill paranoia with the all seeing eye. once your mind recognizes which triggers cause what they loose their power. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Panther wrote in message … >Tor wrote in message <8gh1en$vm…@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>… >>Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? >>Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? >>It would help to know. Thanks. >Yes I think it can be. At a particular time I would be listening to >music…say in the car and then start major anxiety attacks. I finally >realized that in my case it was I was picking up on certain words in the >song. >I’ve heard some say that a door slamming is a trigger. It would vary >depending on the past abuse situation I think.
hello panther hmmm i’ve had the same experience with music, i go through long periods of time where i can’t even bear to listen to it. Now that there is napster – i’ve been working on getting over that. 
I just wanted to remark on the door slamming one – loud noises in general – very triggery to people. I have talked before about living in the shelter and how the women, often grouped in the kitchen after a meal – would all shudder in unison if there was a dish dropped. Another common trigger was any loud noise while going through a doorway, you would notice women would kind of slink and dart through doorways, especially if there was alot of activity going on at the time. Children misbehaving, having tantrums, used to create panic in quite a few of the women as well. jean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Panther
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Tor wrote in message <8gh1en$vm…@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>…
|Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? |Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? |It would help to know. Thanks. | It definitely can trigger flashbacks and anger. My stress rises horribly when someone does something as simple as munch a bag of crisps next to me. Or even if I am talked to at a certain time when my stress is pushing me to be alone and just unwind again. I can feel so got at just with a normal sound. — Cary, c…@charlesc.spamless.freeserve.co.uk (remove spamless. to mail me) Personal Website at http://www.charlesc.freeserve.co.uk/ Eurythmics’ 57 Winters Website at http://www.charlesc.freeserve.co.uk/57/index.html
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banshee wrote in message
<8ghcto$8e…@sshuraab-i-1.production.compuserve.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Panther wrote in message … >>Tor wrote in message <8gh1en$vm…@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>… >>>Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? >>>Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? >>>It would help to know. Thanks. >>Yes I think it can be. At a particular time I would be listening to >>music…say in the car and then start major anxiety attacks. I finally >>realized that in my case it was I was picking up on certain words in the >>song. >>I’ve heard some say that a door slamming is a trigger. It would vary >>depending on the past abuse situation I think. >hello panther >hmmm i’ve had the same experience with music, i go through long periods of >time where i can’t even bear to listen to it. Now that there is napster – >i’ve been working on getting over that.
I did that with photography. It’s been a blank spot for me all my life. You might notice that it may not be the music in general but the tempo that might remind you of something or the words themselves. >I just wanted to remark on the door slamming one – loud noises in general – >very triggery to people. I have talked before about living in the shelter >and how the women, often grouped in the kitchen after a meal – would all >shudder in unison if there was a dish dropped.
Yes I can see why that is when a person came from a violent home…slamming doors tended to lead to much worse things…..in other cases it might be a door quietly opening. >Another common trigger was any loud noise while going through a doorway, you >would notice women would kind of slink and dart through doorways, especially >if there was >alot of activity going on at the time.
That I hadn’t noticed in myself, although walking into a dark bathroom would strick fear. >Children misbehaving, having tantrums, used to create panic in quite a few >of the women as well.
I suspect then that if they could not "keep their children quiet" it would trigger rage in their spouses and a reason for a fight to begin? Panther – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->jean >>Panther
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Hi violence shelters, violence shelters wrote in message
<02562dce.b9d28…@usw-ex0109-069.remarq.com>… >Yes I have found that sound is a trigger. I was used for >mind control so the sound is part of a call back system. I >recall the programmer telling me this and have seen it.
And how are you doing now? >The handlers, rapists intentionally used certain sounds and >songs to get us to respond. Some of the triggers will alarm >a certain reaction or memory.
Yes triggers are like that 
>They also used the back of a dollar bill to instill paranoia >with the all seeing eye. once your mind recognizes which >triggers cause what they loose their power.
That they do! 
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PisaCake wrote in message … >Are triggers always bad? >I was reading the list, some of the things listed as triggers made me think >of very happy events in my life… >Keyrist I wish I got this stuff better. >Sher
Sure there are happy triggers to in our lives Might also be a worthwhile thread to list those triggers in our lives that bring up the good things…those that gave us the nice warm feelings inside. During certain parts of the recovery process the bad triggers seem to occur more. I think the reality is that we are ready to remember and deal with something so many things will at that time remind us of the abuse situations…so it’s a cyclic type of thing. Panther
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Are triggers always bad? I was reading the list, some of the things listed as triggers made me think of very happy events in my life… Keyrist I wish I got this stuff better. Sher
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Tor, > Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? > Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? > It would help to know. Thanks.
There are two distinct types of sound that can get me positively vibrating and nearly panicky (sometimes not nearly, I’m in TOTAL panic!!) Sudden, unexpected noises terrify me. They don’t even have to be particularly loud. The suddenness (sp?) can stick me to the ceiling. My poor son has been burdened with the need to avoid anything that can surprise me and will often "check in" with me if anything sudden occurs. Constant, loud noise is also very hard to deal with. It’s as though my hypervigilance can’t get the job done, you know what I mean? I feel as though I’m always so attuned to everything in my environment that nothing harmful can get through to me. The constant noise of common everyday situations disrupts that defense. Groups of people like parties (even casual get togethers with more than 3 or 4 people), shopping centers etc get me firing on all cylinders. Throw in a sudden noise or two (I have a couple of friends who don’t laugh, they cackle) and I’m a zombie for day or two afterwards. As to the results, I’ve occasionally had flashbacks but more often than not, it’s extreme fight or flight mode. Hope that’s of some use. Gary
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On Thu, 25 May 2000 00:57:03 GMT, "PisaCake" <cinymng…@writeme.com> wrote: >Are triggers always bad? >I was reading the list, some of the things listed as triggers made me think >of very happy events in my life…
Triggers, in and of themselves, are neither good nor bad, they are merely triggers. It’s the memories of events recalled due to the stimulus of the trigger that can be defined as good or bad. That said, it would seem that the word "trigger" is typically used to refer to the stimulus, memory, and reaction to the *memory* (not the stimulus) as a package type deal for "bad" memories, while rarely being used to refer to those stimuli which remind people of good or pleasant memories. In reality triggers are an integral part of, and a requirement of, functioning in every day life. Consider what it would be like if during speaking to someone what they said triggered nothing in you and your mind was a blank, so to speak. Triggers are essential and unavoidable, but neither good nor bad. Triggers (in the broader sense) are also misleading, they can lead one to assign feelings associated with an event or person to another. For instance, a child does something which is actually not a good thing for a child to do, yet triggers a vision of yourself or another manifested by the child mimicking what they have observed. You smile or laugh at the child’s actions, though really at the memory evoked. This reinforces behavior you later find yourself trying to correct, or out of frustration becoming angry with. When dealing with someone, a pleasant memory is triggered which causes you to make a positive association with that person. It’s not really that person at all evoking the feelings, but the one associated with the memory. Same for a negative or "bad" memory, it’s still not the person who triggered the memory, but the person associated with the memory deserving of the feelings evoked, yet the person who triggered the memory gets the association, whether good or bad, right or wrong, deserved or not. >Keyrist I wish I got this stuff better.
It’s very difficult to understand something till you’ve been there. Don’t sweat it. You might gain an understanding just to realize you wish you hadn’t. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sher
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Hi Sher, Yes there are happy triggers, A quick hug from a loved one, the smell of bread hot from the oven… I’m sure there are multitudes, as many as there are folks here. I look to the peaceful triggers, I think. The sort that when I’m really stressed, had a flashback or just a really sucky day, the trigger that helps put my feet back under me. I have a few that I know work. *I* like the visual ones and I’ve been using the first couple of photos on my web site to help me get back into water shallow enough that the outgoing wave doesn’t sweep me back off my feet. I put the site up for me really, a place that I could go to whenever I was at a computer, too much of the time it seems It might be music for some, reading a passage in a book, meditating, what ever strikes that chord and triggers the response. jeeco www.jeeco.asarian-host.org "PisaCake" <cinymng…@writeme.com> wrote in message
news:zT_W4.89$Zd6.6170@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Are triggers always bad? > I was reading the list, some of the things listed as triggers made me think > of very happy events in my life… > Keyrist I wish I got this stuff better. > Sher
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"Tor" <n…@nihil.non> wrote in message
news:8gh1en$vm8$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk… > Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? > Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? > It would help to know. Thanks.
My father listen to singing my Frank Sinatra when he was drunk and rampaging around. Those songs bring it back … not so much any more. But in the past quite alot. But no specific songs… Like a phone ringing or the wind … Mark
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Jeannie <jst42da…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000524143047.09567.00000037@ng-ft1.aol.com… > Hello, > The first thing I thought of when I read your post was the sounds that > triggered me last year on the 4th of July. The loud bangs and other noises > really took their toll on me.
I’m OK with Guy Fawkes Night. I know it’ll happen. But the larrikins let firecrackers off for days both sides and that -really- scares me. > Another experience I can share is about music. I know that some days I would > riding along in the car, listening to music on the radio and before long I > realixed my mood would change. Some days I’d be singing along and then begin > to feel irritable and often it would lead to a rage and I could not understand > what in the hell was going on——I mean one minute I was fine, then boom, I > was off my rocker in a rage. > So, I guess that would qualify as a sound being a trigger also.
I guess. Music doesn’t make me angry. It makes me hot and hate myself, and a big sense of loss. > Thanks for letting me share,
Uh-uh. Thank -you-, and everyone else who answered. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jeannie
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Cary Charles <carychar…@gayone.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8gheej$ptj$1@supernews.com… [..] > It definitely can trigger flashbacks and anger. > My stress rises horribly when someone does something as simple as munch a > bag of crisps next to me. > Or even if I am talked to at a certain time when my stress is pushing me to > be alone and just unwind again. > I can feel so got at just with a normal sound.
-Thank you-. Sometimes I feel criminal, because I like quiet, I start to -believe- that it’s abnormal not to want noise all the time. I have to tell myself over and over, there’s never in the world been so much noise as now, it’s overexposure that makes ordinary noises get unbearable. I know what you mean about being talked to.
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PisaCake <cinymng…@writeme.com> wrote in message
news:zT_W4.89$Zd6.6170@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > Are triggers always bad?
I think, yes. (I read what other people say). {One friend, his voice takes me to a peaceful place. Sound of heavy rain.} Those are gentle, I could choose, if I want. They aren’t triggers. > I was reading the list, some of the things listed as triggers made me think > of very happy events in my life…
Smell of alcohol makes me sick-scared – smell of brandy when I’m baking makes me warm. Smell, -that- could trigger both ways. That was a good question. Thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Keyrist I wish I got this stuff better. > Sher
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_ht_ <op…@asarian-host.org> wrote in message
news:200005250954.DAA06617@asarian-host.org… [..] > This isn’t quite a trigger, but it’s close. For me, it is the sound of a > conversation. Any time that there is a conversation that I can hear, I am > constantly monitoring it, not so much for what is actually being said, but > for the tone of voice.
I sort of do that. A conversation just out of reach gets me really worried. But if I can hear it clearly, I don’t always hear it at all. > Another thing is footsteps. Whenever I hear footsteps, I always need to > find out exactly where they are coming from. If someone comes up to me and > I haven’t heard their footsteps, I _really_ get startled.
I freeze when I hear footsteps coming my way. But I don’t mind not hearing them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Finally, if I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on a wooden floor, I always > feel the desire to be completely still and silent, until the sounds pass.
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-=- kajira hill -=- <b…@antisocial.com> wrote in message news:6fkriscoavt2g1lmpbkmc045nbtsd7cfn2@4ax.com… > I’m triggered if there is input from too many places at once. Sound > coming from a bunch of different sources drives me up a wall. I have > to take tranqs to get through it.
The worst is where there’s noise like that -and- lots of fluorescent light, and movement in lots of directions at once. I can totally forget who I am. > Not sure that’s what you wanted, but that’s my take on it.
Yes. It was. Thank you.
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Tor <n…@nihil.non> wrote in message
news:8gh1en$vm8$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk… > Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? > Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? > It would help to know. Thanks.
-Thank you- -everyone-. I didn’t expect so many answers. I’m really grateful. I deliberately didn’t say about my triggers – Lots of things at the same time Sudden things Anything that goes on a long time/ doesn’t vary/ I can’t escape from Beat-beat-beat/ rave music [the sort you hear booming from car stereos] Low frequency noises Men laughing Arguing Shouting Breaking things Door slamming Footsteps Children laughing Child crying/ pleading/ explaining Children ganging Woman’s voice Music Thanks again.
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This made me sad for you. ChrisX <chr…@asarian-host.org> wrote in message
news:200005241821.MAA01075@asarian-host.org… [..] > intimate sounds and men sounds more often make flashbacks > children sounds more often make self harm > music makes dissociation
This really helps think about it. Lots make me panicky. Sometimes I cut after the worst part’s gone. Music and very rhythmic things are to cut, or split and go away. And too much too long. Hostile & children things are to cut, or get flasbacks. > sometimes I can write better > when I can hear friends
Well for me. Thank you.
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Jeremy’s Dad <js…@home.com> wrote in message
news:Yt%W4.8861$rw5.204860@news1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com… [..] > There are two distinct types of sound that can get me positively vibrating > and nearly panicky (sometimes not nearly, I’m in TOTAL panic!!) > Sudden, unexpected noises terrify me. They don’t even have to be > particularly loud. The suddenness (sp?) can stick me to the ceiling. My > poor son has been burdened with the need to avoid anything that can surprise > me and will often "check in" with me if anything sudden occurs. > Constant, loud noise is also very hard to deal with. It’s as though my > hypervigilance can’t get the job done, you know what I mean?
Now I know what -I- mean, as well. What it is, there isn’t an escape. There isn’t a way to get to baseline, until it stops. I feel as > though I’m always so attuned to everything in my environment that nothing > harmful can get through to me. The constant noise of common everyday > situations disrupts that defense. Groups of people like parties (even > casual get togethers with more than 3 or 4 people), shopping centers etc get > me firing on all cylinders. Throw in a sudden noise or two (I have a couple > of friends who don’t laugh, they cackle) and I’m a zombie for day or two > afterwards. > As to the results, I’ve occasionally had flashbacks but more often than not, > it’s extreme fight or flight mode.
I’ve got neighbours who play rave music a lot. The bass part’s constant amplified boom-thud-boom, and even when it’s quiet it’s so insistent, it’s the only thing I can hear. And the top part sounds like sound effects for Doctor Who, lots of screeches and suddenness, or ‘ambient’ cold space. First time I heard that kind of music I cut straight away, and i didn’t know why. Now, I won’t let myself. But I still dissociate/ go into total panic mode. And if I’m getting flashbacks anyway, it sets them off again, and makes them harder to escape. And then they have fights and arguments and that makes it even stronger. But I think that type of music makes people hostile, anyway. It puzzles me that people can bear it. And I don’t know what’s wrong with needing quiet. > Hope that’s of some use.
Is it ever of use! Thank you.
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Hi, one sound in particular for me are the sound of Glass wind chimes. The kind people used to hang in their houses. If I ever hear one it takes me right back to an abuse incident. Oddly enough, I have all kinds of wind chimes outside and enjoy them, but none of them are the glass prism kind, which gives off a very different sound than any of the ones I have. Dar ************************************ "Tor" <n…@nihil.non> wrote in message
news:8gh1en$vm8$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? > Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? > It would help to know. Thanks.
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hi; the sound of wind blowing through pine needles, there is nothing like it. erie and creepy the sound of a cold winter approaching. but in BC, you can’t escape it and i was fine after a week. maybe that good news, if you wish or are forced you can get through it. still the sound makes me think of what went on at rosseau lake, still. take care, spike ps hey cool ppl over alt.sup.ptsd. hugz if ya don’t get pissed about the posts. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dar wrote: > Hi, one sound in particular for me are the sound of Glass wind chimes. The > kind people used to hang in their houses. If I ever hear one it takes me > right back to an abuse incident. Oddly enough, I have all kinds of wind > chimes outside and enjoy them, but none of them are the glass prism kind, > which gives off a very different sound than any of the ones I have. > Dar > ************************************ > "Tor" <n…@nihil.non> wrote in message > news:8gh1en$vm8$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk… > > Is sound a trigger for anyone? For flashbacks, or self-harm, or anything? > > Is any sort of sound more of a trigger than another? > > It would help to know. Thanks.
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