Trauma – PTSD

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Alan B. Mac Farlane wrote: > it all goes to the heart ilya.  learning about living in love instead of > living in fear … regardless if one wants to style it from a mental or an > emotional thang.  love is mental, emotional, and more then that.

Yeah, well, it depends on the kind of love we’re talking about here, doesn’t it? There are people who say such things as "love your enemy" and "love is the answer," and of course different people mean different things by "love." I personally find that there’s a lot to be had from all the different kinds of love. The most amusing interpretation I’ve seen was from a young DC guy: "God is love, and there’s no greater love than to lay down your life for your friends, and I don’t want to live" (meaning, of course, "I am God"). My girlfriend would tell me "Love your neighbor, but not too much." It’s all about definitions, and some of those definitions are based on emotional tenor and others on philosophical state. > the imago is not the ideal mate in ones head but a conglomeration of > energies of what you made up as a child in what you desire and are not > getting and what you fear and are getting.  both ends are sought in the > persons immune system to relax, get out of the fear, and learn about love. > it comes up in all relationships.

So you’re trying to get what you desire and overcome what causes the fear? And in imago you get what you don’t desire & what you fear? So is it then necessary to overcome the imago? Or to become a mage? > my imago has a disattachment disorder and a sex addiction.  my imago hates > men, and can not stand being around them or talking to them.  i love women > like this … get married to them … they bail on their addiction PTSD > issues.

Alan. Do you know how many beautiful, good-hearted women around the world would do anything to be with someone like you? I know the mind tends to reinforce the patterns, but do you think that if you stopped muckraking & started looking up there could be something worthwhile coming along? > have to get off the judgement and the expectation … and just keep putting > love inside of you where the anger contempt and resentment comes up between > you and him.

OK, you put love where there’s something else. I can understand that, though I don’t exactly call that love – more like cosmic warmth, or Reiki-type energy. > keep putting love inside of where you have judgement and keep seeing > everything outside of you from the rattlesnake to alcohol to money to > marijuana as good, from God and has its place in the world. part of > evolution, genetics, and making things better … healing things up. > You are close to getting this … keep doing what you are doing. > sumbuddie on da watchtower

Yeah, I know you are on da watchtower. Has Satan tempted you yet? Austin Powers The International Man of Mystery.

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ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote in news:1117294488.975767.275290 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > There are many people

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Alan B. Mac Farlane wrote: > ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote   >>The problem I see is when the person wants one thing on the emotional >>level and another at the mental level. > it all goes to the heart ilya.  learning about living in love instead of > living in fear … regardless if one wants to style it from a mental or an > emotional thang.  love is mental, emotional, and more then that.

<snip good stuff> Thank you, that was well-said.

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On Sat, 28 May 2005 8:34:49 -0700, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote (in message <1117294488.975767.275…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>): > There are many people in psychology who believe that relationships are > about equality. I believe that is very wrong. People are different, and > different things work for different people.

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in article 1117294488.975767.275…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com at ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote on 5/28/05 8:34 AM: > The problem I see is when the person wants one thing on the emotional > level and another at the mental level.

it all goes to the heart ilya.  learning about living in love instead of living in fear … regardless if one wants to style it from a mental or an emotional thang.  love is mental, emotional, and more then that. the immune system, the defense struture is always going about healing, and keeping the person from getting hurt.  it knows how to put up scabs and tender boundaries … it knows how to heal.  right down to something called an IMAGO. the imago is not the ideal mate in ones head but a conglomeration of energies of what you made up as a child in what you desire and are not getting and what you fear and are getting.  both ends are sought in the persons immune system to relax, get out of the fear, and learn about love. it comes up in all relationships. my imago has a disattachment disorder and a sex addiction.  my imago hates men, and can not stand being around them or talking to them.  i love women like this … get married to them … they bail on their addiction PTSD issues.   my dad has the same imago in his head like i do in mine and beside being abused himself, having a mom with a batter wife syndrome going on like i did … so my dad had sex with other women instead of my mom.  i understand this now … my dad loved my mom and she could not stand to be around him, constantly putting venom into his life … so my dad to get any sex at all he had to be with women who he could talk to, get along with and never love. have to get off the judgement and the expectation … and just keep putting love inside of you where the anger contempt and resentment comes up between you and him.   keep putting love inside of where you have judgement and keep seeing everything outside of you from the rattlesnake to alcohol to money to marijuana as good, from God and has its place in the world. part of evolution, genetics, and making things better … healing things up. You are close to getting this … keep doing what you are doing. sumbuddie on da watchtower )

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There are many people in psychology who believe that relationships are about equality. I believe that is very wrong. People are different, and different things work for different people. There are women who are happy being submissive; and that is their right. There are men who are happy being submissive to the right woman; and that is their right as well. The problem I see is when the person wants one thing on the emotional level and another at the mental level. For example, there are many women who are emotionally submissive, but mentally want a partnership of equals. That, of course, does not work; and they have bad relationships (either being destroyed by domineering brutes or "drifting apart" from men who treat them as equals) and continue having bad relationships until either they get their emotions to accord with their reason or get their reason to accord with their emotions. Or until they get killed. The same is true for men who are attracted to one kind of women but morally and mentally value another. The men who are attracted to glamorous, free-spirited women find themselves unexplicably shocked when such women do not consent to washing floors all day and letting the man control their children’s development. Then they blame women, or love, or liberalism, or even human nature, when the only thing they should be blaming is their lack of insight and foresight. I am not against relationships of equals, and I am not against relationships in which one party is the top and the other is the bottom. Both can work in the right circumstances. What I am uncompromisingly against, is that which is superior serving that which is inferior. I am uncompromisingly against the beautiful serving the ugly, the caring and tender and loving serving that which has none of such qualities, and the sweet and compassionate serving the malicious and brutish and cruel and entirely lacking in emotional bounty. Now there are people who believe that the first set of qualities are part of the submissive role. I do not believe that to be true; I believe that it is quite possible to have these qualities and lead. And I believe that being able to do so, is what is required to make the world beautiful and lives of its people worthwhile. These are virtues, and ones that make the world wonderful for those who would accept them and let them develop into mature fruition. And making it possible for this to be the case, is the first step toward making a world that is worthy of human habitation. For that to become the case, I push for the following arrangement: Men who have it within themselves to appreciate and value the tender, the soulful, the gentle in women, and support these qualities in their constructive manifestation, finding women who have such qualities and developing with them a creative-poetic partnership that not only makes life beautiful for each other, but also spreads this beauty to those around them (and crystallizing it in works that will last). In this, are accomplished two crucial things. One, the two people have a beautiful life – life that accords with the beauty they hold within themselves; and two, is created work that will inspire others and make beautiful their lives as well. Created is therefore a beautiful existence for the two parties, and a beautiful world. Which makes this a superior mode of relating to either the equalist or the domineering – a life that is an ongoing cultivation and share of beauty, and its share with the rest of the world. Romanticism and Renaissance come together, with the first being the way of life – and the second being the legacy. Ilya Shambat.

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