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No alan – you didn’t hurt me.
good then there is nothing going on with you and me … as i was talking to embies, all of her of course. if there is something you have has an issue, an adgenda item …then please it make it a subject header attention to me in the newsgroup and I will do what I can to help you address it … embies string is here string, not mine … i was just addresing her soliceted request for an opinion …. sumbuddie duex amor :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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As an INDUSTRY, its profit motive, and herbs, spices, accupuncture and biofeedback don’t make any money and heals people … So, to keep the $50,000 a day MEDICAL INDUSTRY CEO BUSH MILLIONAIRS happy, the make ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL what will heal you and give you a better life in the long term then sayyyyy 40 years of prescribed Percodan’s $$$ …. as a healthy alternative from the education prezident whose kids are drug addicts just like their dear old dad and mom … Buying gas from Saudi Arabia is good and its marijuana drug money that funds Ben Laudin from Saudi Arabia and Saddam Hussian is to blame sezs the Id-i-it we have for a Prez. Bush is an INDUSTRY insider as well as BELTWAY insider, just look at his dad. sumbuddie on da watchtower :*) Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an INDUSTRY. It sells diseases, not just cures. jean
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sigh.. it was just in one of the day summary things suzie..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes No that would not be true – however that very well might be "your" perception. Let’s see.. This started a couple of years ago when I said.. "Fibro is a highly debated within the medical community" Jean said the same thing.. That would be an issue of perception perhaps yours or perhaps mine. Why would I based any decision on your perception when I so strongly disagree with the bulk of it. It would be like trusting directions to Cleveland by ….. Well go back and read Dr. Phil. Perception.. Your’s wrong.. See if you can figure out where.. Maybe wrong in several places.. Based on jeans answer to me – no I don’t. I like Jean very much and have a great deal of respect for her. She generally returns that and we get along fine. One only has to look at your answers and history regarding illnesses and triggers to realize why I feel towards you in the manner I do regarding this subject area. I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to.. Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – Is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – It changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – When I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – But rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psYchiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – It becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – Disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are
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X-No-Archive: yes That would be an issue of perception perhaps yours or perhaps mine. Why would I based any decision on your perception when I so strongly disagree with the bulk of it.
Now look at the other side of this same coin. It looks just as ludicrous, huh! :o) Now go back and *read* Dr. Phil… if you dare! LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -It would be like trusting directions to Cleveland by ….. Well go back and read Dr. Phil. Perception.. Your’s wrong.. See if you can figure out where.. Maybe wrong in several places.. Based on jeans answer to me – no I don’t. I like Jean very much and have a great deal of respect for her. She generally returns that and we get along fine. One only has to look at your answers and history regarding illnesses and triggers to realize why I feel towards you in the manner I do regarding this subject area. I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to.. Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – Is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – When I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – It becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *)
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then what is it suzie.. come on.. tell me what my opinion is about anything.. come on girl… work that gray matter..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes No that would not be true – however that very well might be "your" perception. However, as we seem to be looking at the words of famous little bit more than that"…. Let’s see.. This started a couple of years ago when I said.. "Fibro is a highly debated within the medical community" Jean said the same thing.. That would be an issue of perception perhaps yours or perhaps mine. Why would I based any decision on your perception when I so strongly disagree with the bulk of it. It would be like trusting directions to Cleveland by ….. Well go back and read Dr. Phil. Perception.. Your’s wrong.. See if you can figure out where.. Maybe wrong in several places.. Based on jeans answer to me – no I don’t. I like Jean very much and have a great deal of respect for her. She generally returns that and we get along fine. One only has to look at your answers and history regarding illnesses and triggers to realize why I feel towards you in the manner I do regarding this subject area. I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to.. Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – Is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – It changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – When I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – But rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psYchiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – It becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – Disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or
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Let’s see.. This started a couple of years ago when I said.. "Fibro is a highly debated within the medical community" Jean said the same thing..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes That would be an issue of perception perhaps yours or perhaps mine. Why would I based any decision on your perception when I so strongly disagree with the bulk of it. It would be like trusting directions to Cleveland by ….. Well go back and read Dr. Phil. Perception.. Your’s wrong.. See if you can figure out where.. Maybe wrong in several places.. Based on jeans answer to me – no I don’t. I like Jean very much and have a great deal of respect for her. She generally returns that and we get along fine. One only has to look at your answers and history regarding illnesses and triggers to realize why I feel towards you in the manner I do regarding this subject area. I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to.. Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – Is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – When I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – It becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes I don’t forget the disease jean, nor do I laugh at it. It says hello to me every single day in a thousand different ways. I wish with all my heart I could have your attitude about it and laugh and make fun. I have no doubt that you suffer, suzanne. My point is that this syndrome, disease, whatever it is – is overdiagnosed and as a dx it is too easy to make. The reason my mother laughed was because she was gullible enough to believe an idiotic doctor who gave her a diagnosis that was impossible to either prove or disprove. (she’s feeling much better now – cured, i guess).
Oh Lord have mercy woman!!! I’ll swanee you crack me up!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jean Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psychiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *) Thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. 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Perception.. your’s wrong.. see if you can figure out where.. maybe wrong in several places..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes Based on jeans answer to me – no I don’t. I like Jean very much and have a great deal of respect for her. She generally returns that and we get along fine. One only has to look at your answers and history regarding illnesses and triggers to realize why I feel towards you in the manner I do regarding this subject area. I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to.. Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – When I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – It becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *) Thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. Peace from our pieces, embies —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service In the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers [Snip [snip] — For more information about this NNTP posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi
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I assume you feel the same way towards Jean as it was her words I replied to..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes Your propensity for flaming around illness and triggers remains ugly. Hey jean.. Darlin, your words are heresy.. Better watch what you say.. Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psYchiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. 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X-No-Archive: yes I don’t forget the disease jean, nor do I laugh at it. It says hello to me every single day in a thousand different ways. I wish with all my heart I could have your attitude about it and laugh and make fun.
I have no doubt that you suffer, suzanne. My point is that this syndrome, disease, whatever it is – is overdiagnosed and as a dx it is too easy to make. The reason my mother laughed was because she was gullible enough to believe an idiotic doctor who gave her a diagnosis that was impossible to either prove or disprove. (she’s feeling much better now – cured, i guess). jean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of fms is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … What was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an industry. It sells diseases, not just cures. Jean Jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psychiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psYchological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. 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hey jean.. darlin, your words are heresy.. better watch what you say..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of FMS is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … what was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an INDUSTRY. It sells diseases, not just cures. jean jean Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psychiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psychological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *) Thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. 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X-No-Archive: yes Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder.
Highly debatable. As a matter of fact, it *is* highly debated within the medical community. "Fibromyalgia cannot be detected in a normal physical exam. Nor does it show up in a neurological exam, x-ray or standard laboratory tests. The symptom that most often leads to the discovery of FMS is the existence of what are called tender point sites." My mother was dx’ed with fibro. She laughs about it now. This particular doctor dx’ed half her circle of friends with the disease. About a decade ago she was dx’ed with … what was it called – candida? Whatever. People forget that the medical community is an INDUSTRY. It sells diseases, not just cures. jean jean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psychiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psychological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *) Thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. Peace from our pieces, embies —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– — For more information about this NNTP posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi
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nawww, fibro folks use a lot of clinical canabis for their presenting clincial symptomatology …. it really helps, it really is a disease but not deadly … just hurts like hell and one literally lives in a grave between a wheelchair and the bed until they have a heart attack or brain anuryism or accident or infection or something to take them to the otherside. psychologically fibrofolks have a lot of fear and anger inside, flat affect, low emotional output, stinkin thinkin going on. squeeze out the bitter salty tears from the brainpan and people get better regardless of the illness or disease phonomena. however all the tears and snot in the world will not fix the scars, the organic damaged already done. sumbuddie knows :*) Bad crop of weed?
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yaaaa, i come to the same place when I am with fibro people, I dont know what to say in reply to them when they talk to me or ask questions. i have never met their parent objects to figure out the cracks and faultlines to how they got this way, I can only sense from what little contact i have had is that their parent objects are exhausting, just exhausting to be with. luv u deux embies and luv ur pieces. sumbuddie said dis :*/ but we don’t know what to say in reply. 
peace from our pieces, embies
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Bad crop of weed? | Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. | | Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but | are mearly meddelsome …. constantly meddelsome and burdensome. | | it is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. | | fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from | the inside out. | | until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will | die of old age before they will die of fibro. | | cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. | | do what you cant to stay healthy embies | | sumbuddie said dis | | :*) | | | | | thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. | | peace from our pieces, | embies | | | | —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– | http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! | —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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hey windswept dude(ette) perp person who lacks balls to sign off their work and can not speak in whole and complete thoughts. I have a question for you out of your pointless missive. You sound real angry dude(ette) person ….. did I do anything to hurt you in my posting to Embies ??? sumbuddie wants duex know – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Would be that you had it – you’d be writing to everyone in the world that its some kind of mass conspiracy – what it is – is a disease of the immune system. The cause seems to be focusing on fucked up chemicals caused by trauma and genetics. What it ain’t is a psychiatric disorder. Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. Constantly meddelsome and burdensome. Its generally a bit more than meddlesome when that is the origin. It is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. If fibro folks are smart they avoid their family of origin and fight to not be tiresome – you’ve been hanging around fibro folks that have given up on life. Instead of judging them as psychiatrically unfit – you could help by pushing them to accept and excel by pointing them to skills for treatment and solutions. Fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. A rather harsh generalization here. Fibro folks don’t process anger and stress the normal way – its part of the disease. And of course they are angry upon diagnosis – it changes their world and fills it with pain. When I’m home – I admit to pain – when I am out in the world, I’m noticed for my energy and upbeat attitude. Fibro need not be a curse as you describe. It is however very painful, therefore living with it and around someone with it can be a challenge – but rather than judge, its far more productive to solve the problems it presents and overcome them. How the disease is viewed by the people around them can set the tone for how a person with newly diagnosed fibro progresses. I have a doctor who told me it wasn’t going to kill me so push it to the limit of what I could stand painwise and gave me skills to lessen the pain level and be more productive. When I do that, I often forget about the pain or it becomes a part of the whole me until I return home after my day and in the quiet of the night it demands equal time. We have reached an agreement, my pain and me. However, that would not have happened without support, good treatment and kindness. Judgment like yours would have made me fold inward. Its much like how you view any chronic disease – you can give into it and stop living or you can modify your life and thrive. Its a choice – again not a psychiatric condition. Until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. Not many people die of fibro – not many people go into remission either. I’ve addressed, healed and/or overcome almost every psychological barrier my abuse has given me – the fears, the anger and the self esteem issues – I’ve stepped around them or healed them and gone on. What I am living with on a day to day basis is the real physical damage that the constant fear of my childhood did to my physical system by putting out chemicals full time that should only rarely have been distributed into my body. You can judge me as psYchiatrically unsound or unhealed if you wish Alan but that does not Change the facts that not all fibro people have child abuse or family issues and your judgment does not take away the pain that this illness Brings with it. I would think that you of all people would have an understanding of Chronic pain and not be so judgmental of it. Cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. As with most chronic diseases these are the options available – it becomes a test of will for fibro folks – who wins – disease or fear? Should a disease that is not life threatening be recognized as an impairment and/or should the person having it be judged as not quite right in the head or maladjusted because they cannot get a handle on it? Telling them they are not quite right in the head or are somehow maladjusted in their dealings with past issues is of little help to them now that the damage is done. I hope that at some point there is enough information given to doctors so that people like me don’t have to seek information on the internet or from other sufferers – I hope that at some point in the future we can get the skills to live with it and good solid treatment from any doctor’s office. My sisters and brothers with this disease are dying – from drug abuse, from depression out of chronic pain,suicide and from diseases that are concommittantly present but are ignored because doctor’s in their ignorance tab them as malingerers. Do what you cant to stay healthy embies Sumbuddie said dis Yeah you did…. *) Thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. Peace from our pieces, embies —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– — For more information about this NNTP posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi
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thanks for the suggestions. its just in fingers os left hand. i have appt next week w/ my pdoc & can’t wait to see her. went to urgent care thinking it was shingles but it didnt break out. dr gave me tylenol w/codeine & one pill made me oversleep, no pills and the damn thing keeps me awake. ointment w/ steroid does no good. damn, i hope it goes away azure
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. constantly meddelsome and burdensome. it is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. do what you cant to stay healthy embies sumbuddie said dis :*)
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is it always in the face? could it aappear, first or primarily, in other body parts like Fingers? does the painful area get hot to the touch? azure
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Fibro folks are real toxic people embies. Their parent objects violate boundaires under the guise of helpfullness but are mearly meddelsome …. constantly meddelsome and burdensome. it is very tiring being around fibro folks and their family of origin. fibro folks are exhausted and full of anger – so they eat themselves from the inside out. until they can detox the bitter salty tears and heal up that past they will die of old age before they will die of fibro. cry out the hurt or live with it seems to be the issue at hand. do what you cant to stay healthy embies sumbuddie said dis :*) thanks to anyone who reads and or answers. peace from our pieces, embies
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conversation with mom as she packs her meds for a trip: mom: oh, i only take this one now to help with my fibromyalgia. embies: you have fibromyalgia!? m: not so loud, your father will hear. e: and he doesn’t know!? m: he knows, but it upsets him. e: well you never told me, how long have you known. m: only three months. e: i talk to you twice a week at least! m: well, now you know. e: <exhasperated sigh what is it with families and denial of *everything*? i mean, do we have to deny *everything*? that’s not the question though. (but you can feel free to answer if you have an answer to the random insanity that ppl think denial makes life easier to deal with.) the question is, are there any stats and or legit studies wrt heredity of fibro? i tend to pick up everything my mother or father has wrong with them (sometimes before they know they have it. i am the weakest genetic link known to mankind. ok, that’s an exaggeration.) anyway, i have been hunting fibro groups and pages, but at this point, with so much being info i can’t figure the reliability of, it seems easier to just ask here as there are so many fibro folk round these parts anyway. she had the alcoholic father and long term, old school family incl. being the first born. (hmmmm…. never thought about that before that we had in common. maybe that’s why she thought it appropriate for me to raise my sister in many respects. lightbulb!) basic high tension creating life with subsequent depression (like the rest off her sibs.) you all know i post here, so with the ptsd, (etc.) how likely does it seem that this is in my future, and how much yoga will i have to do to stand a chance at avoiding it? 
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