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Im not going to explain my perspective to you..its not for me to show you the other side…I can tell you Ive had some of the same attitudes in life about get a job and youll be a more productive well rounded indavidual..That was until I walked in the same kind of shoes.Shame on me for passing judgement.Shame on you too. Charla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – unfortunately, many people lose their jobs when this condition starts. The victim doesnt know whats going on, the condition gets worse, the doctors take too long to help. while this situation happens , home life suffers and people can loose their jobs. When the therapy or medications kick in live can continue and the poor victim should be able to work. with the Americans with disabilities act, you can show that the job performance was tied to an ilness and you can get your job back.If that doesnt work, when the condition stabilizes, hopefully the poor victim can get their old job back. Almost everybody in here is on some medication. are telling me the meds dont work?dont people in here function? Give them credit Mental illness is easily faked, not just for panic disorder but for schizophenia.there is no blood test fot these conditions and people just walk into welfare offices with these "mental problems" ,fool the doctors, and get a check every month. The bad thing is the jokes on them, because doing nothing all day will make you unbalanced eventually. Find the right doctor and medicine combination and get a job. Your condition will improve.its better for the victim to be working. Doctors will tell you this is one of the most treatable illnesses in Psychiatry. Ive known people on mental disability who were phoneys and could work and im going by my experience. oh and by the bye, with agaoraphopia There are jobs where you can work at home. this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB . It is one thing when our friends and families don`t understand our disorder and make callous statements such as *GET A JOB*, but when an anxiety sufferer comes here and makes such remarks, it really shows a lack of compassion and respect for the anxiety sufferers who aren`t able to work at this point in their l ives. Maybe *YOUR* anxiety has never prevented from working, it is not fair to assume that just because you are able to work with your anxiety disorder means that everybody with an anxiety disorder can work. Many people have had to give up jobs and careers they truly loved because of this disorder. I don`t think anybody here wants to have their lifestyle changed dramatically because they had to quit a good job and go on disability, you do know that the money you get on disability is barely enough to survive? I would like you to show ASAP **credible** evidence that this condition is treatable for 99% of the people who have it…..and let us clarify what condition you are talking about, is it GAD, Social phobia, PD with or without agoraphobia and PTSD, please remember that many people with anxiety disorders also suffer from depression. Jackie The world is not merely black and white, but a swirl, to live you must see this grey.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – unfortunately, many people lose their jobs when this condition starts. The victim doesnt know whats going on, the condition gets worse, the doctors take too long to help. while this situation happens , home life suffers and people can loose their jobs. When the therapy or medications kick in live can continue and the poor victim should be able to work. with the Americans with disabilities act, you can show that the job performance was tied to an ilness and you can get your job back.If that doesnt work, when the condition stabilizes, hopefully the poor victim can get their old job back. Almost everybody in here is on some medication. are telling me the meds dont work?dont people in here function? Give them credit Mental illness is easily faked, not just for panic disorder but for schizophenia.there is no blood test fot these conditions and people just walk into welfare offices with these "mental problems" ,fool the doctors, and get a check every month. The bad thing is the jokes on them, because doing nothing all day will make you unbalanced eventually. Find the right doctor and medicine combination and get a job. Your condition will improve.its better for the victim to be working. Doctors will tell you this is one of the most treatable illnesses in Psychiatry. Ive known people on mental disability who were phoneys and could work and im going by my experience. oh and by the bye, with agaoraphopia There are jobs where you can work at home.
I don`t think anxiety sufferers regard themselves as *poor victims*, I know I don`t consider myself a victim. Maybe you can talk to us and not at us, dropping the condescending tone would also help. Mental illness is not easily faked and I know of not one person that has done that. Mental illness carries such a stigma that I would find it hard to believe that it is commonplace for people to fake it just so they can live just above the poverty line. Welfare has nothing to do with disability, they are two different things. One doesn`t have to go to a welfare office to get diagnosed, most people here use their own MD or psych doctor. Maybe you aren`t aware what people are put through to get on and stay on disability? If you read this newsgroup you will see quite a few posters that are on meds and have done therapy, and are still struggling. Then there are people that seem resistant to meds, they just don`t work for them, so they are left to suffer everyday. In a perfect world it might work to find the right doctor and medicine combo which will enable you to work, but we all know this is not a perfect world and often times things don`t work out the way it should. Would you tell someone with a disabling physical disorder *GO TO WORK*?? Hmmm…..doctors will tell you this is one of the most treatable illness in Psychiatry, what illness are you talking about? And where is that credible evidence I asked you to show us where it states that this condition is treatable for 99% of the people who have it, what is the condition you are talking about? There are many kinds of anxiety disorders, and often times people have more than just one diagnosis. Things aren`t so cut and dry. Just because you have met a few phonies doesn`t mean you should jump into a thread and tell posters to get a job without knowing anything about them or their disorder. I have read many heartbreaking stories of posters losing their jobs or having to quit, and I would never dream to make the comments you of it*. Oh and by the way, we have had disucssions here about *legitimate* work that have any info on *legitimate* work at home programs then do share with us, please? Jackie
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Rodger Wrote- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -unfortunately, many people lose their jobs when this condition starts. The victim doesnt know whats going on, the condition gets worse, the doctors take too long to help. while this situation happens , home life suffers and people can loose their jobs. When the therapy or medications kick in live can continue and the poor victim should be able to work. with the Americans with disabilities act, you can show that the job performance was tied to an ilness and you can get your job back.If that doesnt work, when the condition stabilizes, hopefully the poor victim can get their old job back. Almost everybody in here is on some medication. are telling me the meds dont work?dont people in here function? Give them credit Mental illness is easily faked, not just for panic disorder but for schizophenia.there is no blood test fot these conditions and people just walk into welfare offices with these "mental problems" ,fool the doctors, and get a check every month. The bad thing is the jokes on them, because doing nothing all day will make you unbalanced eventually. Find the right doctor and medicine combination and get a job. Your condition will improve.its better for the victim to be working. Doctors will tell you this is one of the most treatable illnesses in Psychiatry. Ive known people on mental disability who were phoneys and could work and im going by my experience. oh and by the bye, with agaoraphopia There are jobs where you can work at home.
When I lost my job for having panic disorder with agoraphobia, it was not made up. I was fired for having a disablility. I worked in the legal field but not for a law firm, the company I worked for did so much work for so many law firms I couldn’t find anyone to take my case. Everyone needed my former employer too my to go up against them. Work at home, is the biggest joke/scam in the world unless you are an IT/IS person. Not to whine about losing my job, in hindsight it was the best thing that could have happened. It gave me time to think about what I really wanted to do in life and secure the funds to take the plunge. I wouldn’t begrudge anyone with PD or Ag who is on SSD, most contributed to the system for a long time, and in time will be paying back. When they find the treatment that works. I pay my fair share and then some to the government, I’d rather have the $$ I have to pay go to people who need it and are on the road to recovery than the drug addicts & alcoholics that used to be able to get SSD. Jess
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i have always read that this is a chronic disorder that people can LEARN (there’s no underline feature in e-mail)to live with, but not necessarily be cured of. i have always been comfortable working, but not finding a job. am temp. unemployed because of this. would you, rodger, who, retrospectively, just had the nerve to ask us for help, really say to anyone who has this cond. to just snap out of it? just get over it? why don’t you? come on now, we all manifest our anxieties in different ways. we here at ASAP try to be supportive of one another, not attacking. please, refrain from derogatory remarks until you know what’s up. and for the record, no, you probably shouldn’t take st. john’s wort w/ ativan or any other prescribed meds. it is still not known exactly how they interact, but preliminary studies have had bad results. thanks for two pieces of bad advice, alisa
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB . Hello Sharyn. I do not know the answer to your question about social security or what is counted as work or not. I do know that if you search under "Social Security Online" there is a lot of information on disability and ect.at that site. Kinder HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn* I found this information with a toll free number at http://www.dinf.org/ POSTSECONDARY INFORMATION AND RESOURCE CENTER The HEATH Resource Center, the national clearinghouse for postsecondary education for individuals with disabilities, operates under legislative mandate to collect and disseminate information nationally about disability issues in postsecondary education. The HEATH Resource Center is designed to: provide information on education and training opportunities for adults with disabilities; promote accommodations to enable full participation of people with disabilities in regular or specialized postsecondary programs; and recommend strategies to enable people with disabilities to pursue education after high school in the least restrictive environments. For additional information contact: HEATH Resource Center One Dupont Circle Suite 800 Washington, DC 20036 1-800-544-3284 FEDERAL STUDENT FINANCIAL AID There are no special federal financial aid programs to assist individuals with disabilities to attend college except when a state vocational rehabilitation agency has determined that the best preparation for a job for a particular individual with a disability is a college education. In these cases financial assistance may be provided. There are, however, five kinds of federal financial aid programs available to all students in need: grants given on the basis of financial need which do not have to be repaid; loans which must be repaid (Perkins or guaranteed student loans); work-study programs in which students are given part-time jobs to help them through school; benefits, such as Gl Bill, Social Security, and Junior GI which do not have to be repaid. To learn more about the various federal student aid programs, see your high school guidance counselor or the financial aid officer at any college or vocational school, or write to: Office of Student Financial Assistance P.O. Box 84 Washington, DC 20044 * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB .
Pretty much any disease you can think of is "treatable", but that doesn’t mean that the treatments are so effective that one can continue a normal life. Fifty percent of people with P.D. continue to be impaired for the rest of their lives. If you’re so concerned about the original poster working, then how ’bout this: offer them a work-at-home job at a good wage. If you can’t do that, then please shut up and take your judgmental attitude elsewhere. — Steve
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this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB .
It is one thing when our friends and families don`t understand our disorder and make callous statements such as *GET A JOB*, but when an anxiety sufferer comes here and makes such remarks, it really shows a lack of compassion and respect for the anxiety sufferers who aren`t able to work at this point in their lives. Maybe *YOUR* anxiety has never prevented from working, it is not fair to assume that just because you are able to work with your anxiety disorder means that everybody with an anxiety disorder can work. Many people have had to give up jobs and careers they truly loved because of this disorder. I don`t think anybody here wants to have their lifestyle changed dramatically because they had to quit a good job and go on disability, you do know that the money you get on disability is barely enough to survive? I would like you to show ASAP **credible** evidence that this condition is treatable for 99% of the people who have it…..and let us clarify what condition you are talking about, is it GAD, Social phobia, PD with or without agoraphobia and PTSD, please remember that many people with anxiety disorders also suffer from depression. Jackie The world is not merely black and white, but a swirl, to live you must see this grey.
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unfortunately, many people lose their jobs when this condition starts. The victim doesnt know whats going on, the condition gets worse, the doctors take too long to help. while this situation happens , home life suffers and people can loose their jobs. When the therapy or medications kick in live can continue and the poor victim should be able to work. with the Americans with disabilities act, you can show that the job performance was tied to an ilness and you can get your job back.If that doesnt work, when the condition stabilizes, hopefully the poor victim can get their old job back. Almost everybody in here is on some medication. are telling me the meds dont work?dont people in here function? Give them credit Mental illness is easily faked, not just for panic disorder but for schizophenia.there is no blood test fot these conditions and people just walk into welfare offices with these "mental problems" ,fool the doctors, and get a check every month. The bad thing is the jokes on them, because doing nothing all day will make you unbalanced eventually. Find the right doctor and medicine combination and get a job. Your condition will improve.its better for the victim to be working. Doctors will tell you this is one of the most treatable illnesses in Psychiatry. Ive known people on mental disability who were phoneys and could work and im going by my experience. oh and by the bye, with agaoraphopia There are jobs where you can work at home.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB . It is one thing when our friends and families don`t understand our disorder and make callous statements such as *GET A JOB*, but when an anxiety sufferer comes here and makes such remarks, it really shows a lack of compassion and respect for the anxiety sufferers who aren`t able to work at this point in their l ives. Maybe *YOUR* anxiety has never prevented from working, it is not fair to assume that just because you are able to work with your anxiety disorder means that everybody with an anxiety disorder can work. Many people have had to give up jobs and careers they truly loved because of this disorder. I don`t think anybody here wants to have their lifestyle changed dramatically because they had to quit a good job and go on disability, you do know that the money you get on disability is barely enough to survive? I would like you to show ASAP **credible** evidence that this condition is treatable for 99% of the people who have it…..and let us clarify what condition you are talking about, is it GAD, Social phobia, PD with or without agoraphobia and PTSD, please remember that many people with anxiety disorders also suffer from depression. Jackie The world is not merely black and white, but a swirl, to live you must see this grey.
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this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB .
It is possible you mean well but I find it rather ionsensitive to say GET A JOB to someone who can’t because of this disorder. This is not exactly *supportive* IMO. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Sharyn. I do not know the answer to your question about social security or what is counted as work or not. I do know that if you search under "Social Security Online" there is a lot of information on disability and ect.at that site. Kinder HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn* I found this information with a toll free number at http://www.dinf.org/ POSTSECONDARY INFORMATION AND RESOURCE CENTER The HEATH Resource Center, the national clearinghouse for postsecondary education for individuals with disabilities, operates under legislative mandate to collect and disseminate information nationally about disability issues in postsecondary education. The HEATH Resource Center is designed to: provide information on education and training opportunities for adults with disabilities; promote accommodations to enable full participation of people with disabilities in regular or specialized postsecondary programs; and recommend strategies to enable people with disabilities to pursue education after high school in the least restrictive environments. For additional information contact: HEATH Resource Center One Dupont Circle Suite 800 Washington, DC 20036 1-800-544-3284 FEDERAL STUDENT FINANCIAL AID There are no special federal financial aid programs to assist individuals with disabilities to attend college except when a state vocational rehabilitation agency has determined that the best preparation for a job for a particular individual with a disability is a college education. In these cases financial assistance may be provided. There are, however, five kinds of federal financial aid programs available to all students in need: grants given on the basis of financial need which do not have to be repaid; loans which must be repaid (Perkins or guaranteed student loans); work-study programs in which students are given part-time jobs to help them through school; benefits, such as Gl Bill, Social Security, and Junior GI which do not have to be repaid. To learn more about the various federal student aid programs, see your high school guidance counselor or the financial aid officer at any college or vocational school, or write to: Office of Student Financial Assistance P.O. Box 84 Washington, DC 20044 * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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this condition is treatable for 99.9 % of the people who have it. GET A JOB .
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Sharyn. I do not know the answer to your question about social security or what is counted as work or not. I do know that if you search under "Social Security Online" there is a lot of information on disability and ect.at that site. Kinder HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn* I found this information with a toll free number at http://www.dinf.org/ POSTSECONDARY INFORMATION AND RESOURCE CENTER The HEATH Resource Center, the national clearinghouse for postsecondary education for individuals with disabilities, operates under legislative mandate to collect and disseminate information nationally about disability issues in postsecondary education. The HEATH Resource Center is designed to: provide information on education and training opportunities for adults with disabilities; promote accommodations to enable full participation of people with disabilities in regular or specialized postsecondary programs; and recommend strategies to enable people with disabilities to pursue education after high school in the least restrictive environments. For additional information contact: HEATH Resource Center One Dupont Circle Suite 800 Washington, DC 20036 1-800-544-3284 FEDERAL STUDENT FINANCIAL AID There are no special federal financial aid programs to assist individuals with disabilities to attend college except when a state vocational rehabilitation agency has determined that the best preparation for a job for a particular individual with a disability is a college education. In these cases financial assistance may be provided. There are, however, five kinds of federal financial aid programs available to all students in need: grants given on the basis of financial need which do not have to be repaid; loans which must be repaid (Perkins or guaranteed student loans); work-study programs in which students are given part-time jobs to help them through school; benefits, such as Gl Bill, Social Security, and Junior GI which do not have to be repaid. To learn more about the various federal student aid programs, see your high school guidance counselor or the financial aid officer at any college or vocational school, or write to: Office of Student Financial Assistance P.O. Box 84 Washington, DC 20044 * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Sharyn. I do not know the answer to your question about social security or what is counted as work or not. I do know that if you search under "Social Security Online" there is a lot of information on disability and ect.at that site. Kinder HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn*
I found this information with a toll free number at http://www.dinf.org/ POSTSECONDARY INFORMATION AND RESOURCE CENTER The HEATH Resource Center, the national clearinghouse for postsecondary education for individuals with disabilities, operates under legislative mandate to collect and disseminate information nationally about disability issues in postsecondary education. The HEATH Resource Center is designed to: provide information on education and training opportunities for adults with disabilities; promote accommodations to enable full participation of people with disabilities in regular or specialized postsecondary programs; and recommend strategies to enable people with disabilities to pursue education after high school in the least restrictive environments. For additional information contact: HEATH Resource Center One Dupont Circle Suite 800 Washington, DC 20036 1-800-544-3284 FEDERAL STUDENT FINANCIAL AID There are no special federal financial aid programs to assist individuals with disabilities to attend college except when a state vocational rehabilitation agency has determined that the best preparation for a job for a particular individual with a disability is a college education. In these cases financial assistance may be provided. There are, however, five kinds of federal financial aid programs available to all students in need: grants given on the basis of financial need which do not have to be repaid; loans which must be repaid (Perkins or guaranteed student loans); work-study programs in which students are given part-time jobs to help them through school; benefits, such as Gl Bill, Social Security, and Junior GI which do not have to be repaid. To learn more about the various federal student aid programs, see your high school guidance counselor or the financial aid officer at any college or vocational school, or write to: Office of Student Financial Assistance P.O. Box 84 Washington, DC 20044 * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn*
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: HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my : question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go : back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on : it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! Difficult question. Though I doubt that taking classes is considered work, it may make you seem less than disabled during your disability review. This is a rather awkward gray area and I’m not sure how to answer your question. Best Wishes, Arthur
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Hello Sharyn. I do not know the answer to your question about social security or what is counted as work or not. I do know that if you search under "Social Security Online" there is a lot of information on disability and ect.at that site. Kinder – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HI, i’m not sure who all here is on disability for their panic, but, my question is for those who are, would you lose your benefits if you tried to go back to school, maybe take a few classes? Would that count as work? I’m not on it right now, but am very curious about it. Thanks so much! *"Never look down on a person, unless you’re helping them up"* *Sharyn*
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