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112697-11 26 Nov 1997 Newsgroups PTSD Murder Defense Fails ALAN ABRAHAMSON, reports in today’s Los AngelesTimes (http://www.latimes.com): "Stress Disorder Defense Fails in Slaying Case Courts: World War II POW, who said he apparently flashed back to Japanese prison when he shot his son-in-law to death, is convicted of first-degree murder." EXCERPT: "The jury convicted Dick Keech of first-degree murder Tuesday, rejecting his unusual defense that the stress of being a prisoner in World War II caused him to shoot his son-in-law to death last year in a quiet Long Beach neighborhood." One juror interviewed later stated, "This was not a case of a war veteran ‘flashing back’ on his WW2 captors whom, by the way, he never took a poke at. This was a brutal case of a ‘Kramer vs. Kramer’ wife wanting to get her child’s father out of the way. She used her own father to do that." Keech’s attorney’s plan to appeal the verdict. Full report (Today only) http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/t000107086.html Keech photo (Today only) http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/PHOTO/ REFERENCES: Defending the Vietnam War Combat Vet: http://members.aol.com/WarLib/pc1.htm PTSD Resources: http://www.long-beach.va.gov/ptsd/stress.html National Center for PTSD: http://www.dartmouth.edu/dms/ptsd/ — Reference Desk The American War Library Serving American Heroes since 1988 www.amervets.com http://members.aol.com/veterans Veteran/Active Duty Registry (Over 16 million listings) http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm Is A Buddy Looking For You? A Partial List of Vets/Military/Brats being sought http://members.aol.com/USRegistry/findme.htm The G.I. Photograph Museum and Registry http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib3.htm
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American Heroes <veter…@pacbell.net> wrote in article <347cc1c5.4032…@news.pacbell.net>… CAREFUL FOLKS. The guy posting this is a scam artist and will try to get money from you for either bogus info or info that is free on the web. From what he has posted on other NG’s, he claims to be a Viet Nam vet, but has NO knowledge of Viet Nam and tells stories that are far beyond belief!!
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American Heroes (WHICH IS ONE OF SEVEN DIFFERENT NAMES USED BY THIS SCAM OPERATION THAT POSES AS A LIBRARY) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 26 Nov 1997 > Newsgroups > PTSD Murder Defense Fails > ALAN ABRAHAMSON, reports in today’s Los AngelesTimes > (http://www.latimes.com): > "Stress Disorder Defense Fails in Slaying Case > Courts: World War II POW, who said he apparently flashed back to > Japanese prison when he shot his son-in-law to death, is convicted of > first-degree murder." > EXCERPT: "The jury convicted Dick Keech of first-degree murder > Tuesday, rejecting his unusual defense that the stress of being a > prisoner in World War II caused him to shoot his son-in-law to death > last year in a quiet Long Beach neighborhood." > One juror interviewed later stated, "This was not a case of a war > veteran ‘flashing back’ on his WW2 captors whom, by the way, he never > took a poke at. This was a brutal case of a ‘Kramer vs. Kramer’ wife > wanting to get her child’s father out of the way. She used her own > father to do that." > Keech’s attorney’s plan to appeal the verdict. > Full report (Today only) > http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/t000107086.html > Keech photo (Today only) > http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/PHOTO/ > REFERENCES:
****SNIPPED THE BULLSHIT URL OF PHILL’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > PTSD Resources: > http://www.long-beach.va.gov/ptsd/stress.html > National Center for PTSD: > http://www.dartmouth.edu/dms/ptsd/ > — Reference Desk
*****HAD TO CUT ALL THE LIES and OTHER AWL BS PLUS ALL OF PHILL’s SCAM URLS TO GET PEOPLE TO HIS COMMERCIAL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEM, just couldn’t leave them there for the UNSUSPECTING VETs and their families!! ================================================ DUD Phillip "Uns D.B." Roger Coleman of veter…@pacbell.net or veter…@aol.com or amer…@aol.com who is the SOLE OWNER and OPERATOR of That Renowned SCAM Operation and BOGUS The Amer War Lib’y is trying to make EVERYONE believe that his BOGUS Amer War Lib’y is a real and Legit operation, NOT — could’nt be FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, the Amer War Lib’y is about as real as a $3.00 bill. Ah Phill you still have not answered these questions posed to you BY ALL THE VETERANS OF THE Veterans Newsgroups!! They are: 1. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to include an e-mail address of REAL people that are asking for help?? 2. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to post the URL of the original web page the REAL information came from?? 3. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to provide the source of where that REAL posting came from?? 4. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to help REAL people find what they are looking for for free?? 5. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to be HONEST?? I’ll TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE THE Amer War Lib’y IS A BOGUS LIBRARY, The Amer War Lib’y is a SCAM OPERATION, The Amer War Lib’y is a CON OPERATION, The Amer War Lib’y is more interested in money than helping their fellow human beings!! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS….. Well anyway Phill since you need to keep trying to post your LIES and other BS to continue your SCAM & CON, I guess I and others will just have to keep letting people know that YOUR """The American War Library, USAHEROS, FORVETS, AMERICAN HERORS, For Country, Vetxchange and DEA WATCH""" Are nothing more than a TELEMARKETING SCHEME using slick web pages instead of calling you on the phone. Now if The people would like to visit some REAL Veterans sites where the guys take PRIDE in their work and are out to HELP the Veterans, not take your money like Phill of The Amer War Lib’y will — go to the below URLS. In fact these sites put anything Phill Coleman has to SHAME!!! Plus they keep their information updated and it is all VERIFIABLE where as Phill Coleman’s is NOT and most of all they ARE FREE! The URLS are: Soc.History.War.Vietnam Home Page http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/shwv/shwvhome.html http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/link-faq.html Vietnam Veterans Home Page http://www.vietvet.org/ Veterans News & Information Service http://www.vnis.com/ Veterans Service Organizations & Military Web Sites http://www.theshop.net/slworley/vets.html National Veterans Organizations http://www.nvo.org/ EVAC-VETLINK http://www.soft-vision.com/vetlink/ Enlisted.Com http://www.enlisted.com/ Infantry Regiment http://www.wiz-worx.com/366th/index.htm Armed Forces.Com http://www.armedforces.com/ The Military Search Bulletin Board http://www.shadow.net/~tferrer/search.html LZ Memories http://members.aol.com/pbylin/lz-memories.html For Gulf War Veterans Visit Desert-Storm.Com http://www.desert-storm.com/ So Enjoy the URLS and Please stay clear of the Amer War Lib’y, you’ll keep your money if you do. ——– THE BOGUS Amer War Lib’y IS A SCAM and if you would like to bring this scam operation out in the open you can use the below e-mail addresses. And ask them if they KNOW ABOUT THE Bogus American War Library! VA Inspector General — VAOIG.HOTL…@FORUM.VA.GOV FBI – los.ange…@fbi.gov Department of Justice – lweid…@justice.usdoj.gov Department of Defense Inspsector General — hotl…@dodig.osd.mil Vietnam Veterans Of America – 71154….@compuserve.com American Legion – l…@legion.org Association of the US Army — ausa-i…@ausa.org Veterans of Foriegn Wars — n…@vfw.org — Jim Williams CWL#166 Read The Real Truth About The American War Library, USAHEROS, FORVETS, American Heros and DEA Watch (they are ONE in the SAME) at the below faqawld.htm URL, Please Sign The Guestbook. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/1955/faqawld.htm http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/1955/index.html The Tiger Go’s Where The AWL Go’s, As The Tiger Knows Where Evil Men Lurk. ("`-”-/").___..–”"`-._ (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)’ ._ ) `._ `. “-..-’ _..`–’_..-_/ /–’_.’ ,’ (()),-” (()),’ (((.-’ <tige…@tiger-eagle.com>
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On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:54:11 -0800, Jim Williams <tige…@tiger-eagle.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->American Heroes (WHICH IS ONE OF SEVEN DIFFERENT NAMES USED BY THIS SCAM >OPERATION THAT POSES AS A LIBRARY) wrote: >> 26 Nov 1997 >> Newsgroups >> PTSD Murder Defense Fails >> ALAN ABRAHAMSON, reports in today’s Los AngelesTimes >> (http://www.latimes.com): >> "Stress Disorder Defense Fails in Slaying Case >> Courts: World War II POW, who said he apparently flashed back to >> Japanese prison when he shot his son-in-law to death, is convicted of >> first-degree murder." >> EXCERPT: "The jury convicted Dick Keech of first-degree murder >> Tuesday, rejecting his unusual defense that the stress of being a >> prisoner in World War II caused him to shoot his son-in-law to death >> last year in a quiet Long Beach neighborhood." >> One juror interviewed later stated, "This was not a case of a war >> veteran ‘flashing back’ on his WW2 captors whom, by the way, he never >> took a poke at. This was a brutal case of a ‘Kramer vs. Kramer’ wife >> wanting to get her child’s father out of the way. She used her own >> father to do that." >> Keech’s attorney’s plan to appeal the verdict. >> Full report (Today only) >> http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/t000107086.html >> Keech photo (Today only) >> http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/PHOTO/ >> REFERENCES: >****SNIPPED THE BULLSHIT URL OF PHILL’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> PTSD Resources: >> http://www.long-beach.va.gov/ptsd/stress.html >> National Center for PTSD: >> http://www.dartmouth.edu/dms/ptsd/ >> — Reference Desk >*****HAD TO CUT ALL THE LIES and OTHER AWL BS PLUS ALL OF PHILL’s SCAM >URLS TO GET PEOPLE TO HIS COMMERCIAL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEM, just >couldn’t leave them there for the UNSUSPECTING VETs and their families!! >================================================ >DUD Phillip "Uns D.B." Roger Coleman of veter…@pacbell.net or >veter…@aol.com or amer…@aol.com who is the SOLE OWNER and OPERATOR >of That Renowned SCAM Operation and BOGUS The Amer War Lib’y is trying >to make EVERYONE believe that his BOGUS Amer War Lib’y is a real and >Legit operation, NOT — could’nt be FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, the Amer War >Lib’y is about as real as a $3.00 bill.
how about a $30 bill for visual effects – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ah Phill you still have not answered these questions posed to you >BY ALL THE VETERANS OF THE Veterans Newsgroups!! They are: >1. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to include an e-mail >address of REAL people that are asking for help?? >2. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to post the URL of the >original web page the REAL information came from?? >3. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to provide the source of >where that REAL posting came from?? >4. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to help REAL people find >what they are looking for for free?? >5. Why is it so hard for The Amer War Lib’y to be HONEST?? > I’ll TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE THE Amer War Lib’y IS A BOGUS LIBRARY, >The Amer War Lib’y is a SCAM OPERATION, The Amer War Lib’y is a CON >OPERATION, The Amer War Lib’y is more interested in money than helping >their fellow human beings!! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS….. > Well anyway Phill since you need to keep trying to post your >LIES and other BS to continue your SCAM & CON, I guess I and others will >just have to keep letting people know that YOUR """The American War >Library, USAHEROS, FORVETS, AMERICAN HERORS, For Country, Vetxchange and >DEA WATCH""" Are nothing more than a TELEMARKETING SCHEME using slick >web pages instead of calling you on the phone. >Now if The people would like to visit some REAL Veterans sites where the >guys take PRIDE in their work and are out to HELP the Veterans, not take >your money like Phill of The Amer War Lib’y will — go to the below >URLS. In fact these sites put anything Phill Coleman has to SHAME!!! >Plus they keep their information updated and it is all VERIFIABLE where >as Phill Coleman’s is NOT and most of all they ARE FREE! >The URLS are: >Soc.History.War.Vietnam Home Page >http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/shwv/shwvhome.html >http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/link-faq.html >Vietnam Veterans Home Page >http://www.vietvet.org/ >Veterans News & Information Service >http://www.vnis.com/ >Veterans Service Organizations & Military Web Sites >http://www.theshop.net/slworley/vets.html >National Veterans Organizations >http://www.nvo.org/ >EVAC-VETLINK >http://www.soft-vision.com/vetlink/ >Enlisted.Com >http://www.enlisted.com/ >Infantry Regiment >http://www.wiz-worx.com/366th/index.htm >Armed Forces.Com >http://www.armedforces.com/ >The Military Search Bulletin Board >http://www.shadow.net/~tferrer/search.html >LZ Memories >http://members.aol.com/pbylin/lz-memories.html >For Gulf War Veterans Visit Desert-Storm.Com >http://www.desert-storm.com/ >So Enjoy the URLS and Please stay clear of the Amer War Lib’y, you’ll >keep your money if you do. >——– >THE BOGUS Amer War Lib’y IS A SCAM and if you would like to bring this >scam operation out in the open you can use the below e-mail addresses. >And ask them if they KNOW ABOUT THE Bogus American War Library! >VA Inspector General — VAOIG.HOTL…@FORUM.VA.GOV >FBI – los.ange…@fbi.gov >Department of Justice – lweid…@justice.usdoj.gov >Department of Defense Inspsector General — hotl…@dodig.osd.mil >Vietnam Veterans Of America – 71154….@compuserve.com >American Legion – l…@legion.org >Association of the US Army — ausa-i…@ausa.org >Veterans of Foriegn Wars — n…@vfw.org >– >Jim Williams >CWL#166 >Read The Real Truth About The American War Library, USAHEROS, >FORVETS, American Heros and DEA Watch (they are ONE in the SAME) >at the below faqawld.htm URL, Please Sign The Guestbook. >http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/1955/faqawld.htm >http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/1955/index.html >The Tiger Go’s Where The AWL Go’s, >As The Tiger Knows Where Evil Men Lurk. > ("`-”-/").___..–”"`-._ > (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > (_Y_.)’ ._ ) `._ `. “-..-’ > _..`–’_..-_/ /–’_.’ ,’ >(()),-” (()),’ (((.-’ ><tige…@tiger-eagle.com>
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