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Mandela: U.S. wants holocaust

Mandela should be more concerned with South Africa where the murder rate is 8 times that of the US and is known as the baby-rape capital of the world. BroJack

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They have voodoo beleivers in South Africa Bro — who believe that sex with a virgin cures AIDS … They are believing christians for the most part Bro – praying to a God the Father that baby rapes his own children and then kills the newborn … its in the bible. Where else do you think some dumb South African romper room brainaics would get an idea like that – but from christian missionary with the God who fucks Madonna super vision to see Satan and his evil ways. sumbuddie not making dis up Mandela: U.S. wants holocaust Mandela should be more concerned with South Africa where the murder rate is 8 times that of the US and is known as the baby-rape capital of the world. BroJack

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It is annoying and plays down the atrocities to call every war or disagreement a holocaust

This is from Marcie – our newest newbie with a big brain who dont think to good – common for people with PTSD like her … unconcious and fragmented. Curious how Windy can see how fucked up Marcie is – but Windy can not see how fucked up she is the same way — more fragmented unconscious behaviour. Anyhow what struck me was that some wars, some disagreements are not a holocaust to Marcie … other wars and disagreements are a holocaust.  It bothers her to even confuse the two ways of wholesale slaughter. War Dead people there – no big deal — war dead people over there – its big deal. Marcie can understand that split right now … she can not understand that killing anybuddie for war is useless, has no spiritual profit, and just makes everything worse. Marcie likes her pills still … has an elephant in the room as well. Marcie still allows herself to get fucked both ways instead of stand up to the disease and be free – sure they may kill you to keep you in the disease a la OJ and Nicole – but you die free. So she is ill … Bush is ill. When will the people ever learn. sumbuddie who cares —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Not to mention the fact that throughout the entire country one out of nine citizens is HIV-positive.

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Mandela: U.S. wants holocaust

This didnt’ seem to be part of the article…did you add it. It is annoying and plays down the atrocities to call every war or disagreement a holocaust. While i do not agree with this war i do not see Iraq making sure all of its rail lines are running good because they have to make sure that they can kill every last american in the world. 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe died in the second ww as part of the holocaust.  This was 6 million Jews. Countless of other millions were killed because they were either political oponents or not considered acceptable by the Germans under their race laws.  These include by are not limited to Poles Gays Lesbians Women who just generally wouldn’t fit nicely into the mould Communists socialist (i believe) and people with disabilities…and i’m sure i’m missing some groups. To compare every war to the holocaust results to a desensitization of what happened during ww2 and downplays what the Jewish population and other populations endured: the first government run try at exterminating a group through an organized burecratic system, and in fact spending more time worrying about burning the last jews (near the end of the war) then sending much needed supplies to their troops) Marcie

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Mandela: U.S. wants holocaust This didnt’ seem to be part of the article…did you add it. It is annoying and plays down the atrocities to call every war or disagreement a holocaust.

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Most of the Jewish community understand the thing the same way. It might be kinda hard to argue the whole Jewish community is fragmented. I do believe some other things can reasonable be holocaust…i would call what happened in Rwanda a holocaust, because it is very clear the government was involved. There are also many who feel the same way i do wo are not Jewish. Yes war always kills. and i do not support this war in any way.  In fact i spend 4 hours in the Ottawa cold protesting it in Ottawa when the general day of protests for the war was…i then spent a couple of hours learning more about the situation and non-violent/passive protesting. If it seems that i know to much about politics for someone on this group, I got my BA honours in political science with a minor in women’s studies. I was made to learn all kinds of political theories some i agree with some i don’t….but it did teach me an awful lot about politics, something i already knew a fair amount for considering my age when i started the degree. Marcie

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Marcie — sweetie … dearest one. In two sentances, your whole point of the posting (which was a justification and invalidation of how this wholesale slaughter is a holocaust and the other wholesale slaughter is not) and its crazymaking is below. Most jews understand it this way, so the whole (not most) jews are not fragmented. Dispite most jews having ptsd issues to heal down the generations from direct abuse or witness abuse …. once burned twice shy … stress events usually bring a person to over generalization and hypersensativity to bitterness that is normal and healthy …. but cause of their hurt they over see the issue … no balance yet. Since most jews and all jews to you see to be the same issue — and proof that there is no emotional fragmentation and ptsd issues. jews cant be fragmented from ww 2 – but christians who pray to God that fucks his children are not a generational and millions of people who want to Jonestown away … on the beast 666. They used to burn people for looking through telescopes you know … Women like you would be witches and killed by the prick test. sumbuddie not making dis up Most of the Jewish community understand the thing the same way. It might be kinda hard to argue the whole Jewish community is fragmented.

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It is not worth my time discussing this with you. You already have your mind made up. The coming war against Iraq shows no signs of becomming a holocaust in the conventional use of the war. It is still wrong, and i freeze my buns of protesting about it Marcie

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I made a typo. The coming war in Iraq shows no signs of becomming a holocaust Marcie

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I am so sorry your parent objects abuse you to turn out this way Marcie … good luck in your recovery. People can not come out of denial over night – too much of a shock to the system. You are going to get more little shocks to wake up … God knows how to raise you … sorry its going to hurt so much. sumbuddie luvs ya It is not worth my time discussing this with you. You already have your mind made up. The coming war against Iraq shows no signs of becomming a holocaust in the conventional use of the war. It is still wrong, and i freeze my buns of protesting about it Marcie

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Mandela: U.S. wants holocaust Thursday, January 30, 2003 Posted: 12:54 PM EST (1754 GMT) JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (CNN) – Former South African president Nelson Mandela has slammed the U.S. stance on Iraq, saying that "one power with a president who has no foresight, who cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust." Speaking at the International Women’s Forum, Mandela said "if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America." Mandela said U.S. President George W. Bush covets the oil in Iraq "because Iraq produces 64 percent of the oil in the world. What Bush wants is to get hold of that oil." In fact Iraq contributes to only 5 percent of world oil exports. The Bush administration is threatening military action if Iraq does not account for weapons of mass destruction and fully cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors. Receiving applause for his comments, Mandela said Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are "undermining" past work of the United Nations. "They do not care. Is it because the secretary-general of the United Nations is now a black man?" said Mandela, referring to Kofi Annan, who is from Ghana. Blair is expected to discuss the issue of Iraq when he meets with South African President Thabo Mbeki in London Saturday, a day after the British leader’s meeting with Bush. Mandela said he would support without reservation any action agreed upon by the United Nations against Iraq, which Bush and Blair say has weapons of mass destruction and is a sponsor of terror groups, including Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network. (Full story) Nobel Peace Laureate Mandela, 84, has spoken out many times against Bush’s stance, and South Africa’s close ties with Libya and Cuba irked Washington during Mandela’s own presidency. In reaction to Mandela’s comments, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Bush was grateful to the many European leaders who "obviously think differently." "The president will understand there are going to be people who are more comfortable doing nothing about a growing menace that could turn into a holocaust. He respects people who differ with him. He will do what he thinks is right and necessary to protect our country," Fleischer said. – —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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