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Hi everyone,     Recently, everything seems to have been going very well here.  There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known.  (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out of nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought that it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me.  The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind "Stop, GO Away".  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just  until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there???? Nahanton

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guess it could be a new alter-who’s staying well hidden exept for the voice. recently we were going through a bad depression and we had a voice telling us to kill ourself. we were able to finally track him down, which was good, because it was sure causing lots of turmoil-scaring the sh*t out of the littles, and sounding like a good idea to a couple of the teens. it turned out to be a teen that we didn’t know about till then. we were able to get him to promise not to harm the body(and now that we know about him, we should be able to stop him if he tries to on his own).     hang in there!!!!! dcrew

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, Recently, everything seems to have been going very well here.  There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known.  (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out of nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought that it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me.  The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way. Told the T about it today, and he feels it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind "Stop, GO Away".  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just  until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there???? Nahanton

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, Recently, everything seems to have been going very well here.  There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known.  (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out of nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought that it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me.  The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind "Stop, GO Away". It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just  until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there????

i really dont know exactly what is in your case.. but it reminds me of two things i recently read……. there are people on another list i read, feeling that some people will have specific programming come out in response to the millennium change… if it has to do with that, that could be why it feels ‘different’… of course i do not know how it ‘feels’ to you….. however, if you are really sure it is not ‘you’ and not a part of you or any programming sequence, then it sounds to me a LOT like the voices my friends on the schiz list report. voices in the ear, telling you how pathetic you are, telling you what a loser you are, and giving VERY bad advice. if you also end up having voices like that, sometimes medicine will help, but the people i know who hear stuff like that day in and day out learn to ignore it and talk back to it. if this is not a real alter but just a voice, that will work for you. :) )) either way, take care. anna Nahanton

– "blessed am i to dwell in this beautiful temple" << – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, Recently, everything seems to have been going very well here.  There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known.  (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out of nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought that it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me.  The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind "Stop, GO Away". It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just  until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there????

i really dont know exactly what is in your case.. but it reminds me of two things i recently read……. there are people on another list i read, feeling that some people will have specific programming come out in response to the millennium change… if it has to do with that, that could be why it feels ‘different’… of course i do not know how it ‘feels’ to you….. however, if you are really sure it is not ‘you’ and not a part of you or any programming sequence, then it sounds to me a LOT like the voices my friends on the schiz list report. voices in the ear, telling you how pathetic you are, telling you what a loser you are, and giving VERY bad advice. if you also end up having voices like that, sometimes medicine will help, but the people i know who hear stuff like that day in and day out learn to ignore it and talk back to it. if this is not a real alter but just a voice, that will work for you. :) )) either way, take care. anna Thanks for posting anna, I really think this has to do with PTSD, I just don’t know how to handle it. Nahanton

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<< if you also end up having voices like that, sometimes medicine will help, but the people i know who hear stuff like that day in and day out learn to ignore it and talk back to it. if this is not a real alter but just a voice, that will work for you. :) )) either way, take care. anna

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Hi, I seem to have screwed up royally.  I have again used the wrong "nom de I’ve tried answering with highlighting and can’t seem to get that straight either. What a screw up. Sorry. Nahanton

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Hi everyone.  With an acute sense of embarrassment, I am trying to write this post again.  The first time I wrote it, I tried to reply and completely screwed up.  Not only did I screw up _my_ post, but screwed up the replies that people kindly wrote in.  I also somehow used the wrong signature name, for which I am deeply sorry.  So if anyone has not seen this, I would like to repeat my post as I really could use some help: Recently, everything seemed to have been going very well here.   There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known. (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out or nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_  about me. The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The  most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels that it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind, STOP, GO AWAY.  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there?? Nahanton

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<< ke that day in and day out learn to ignore it and talk back to it. if this is not a real alter but just a voice, that will work for you. :) )) either way, take care. anna Thanks for your reply, anna.  I have a feeling that this has to do with PTSD, although I don’t know how to handle it.

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<< Thanks for posting Bonnie & David.  I don’t know what’s going on.  Maybe a new insider, or as my T. suspects the result of PTSD.  

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Hi everyone.

Hi Nahanton, With an acute sense of embarrassment, I am trying to write this post again.

Wouldn’t it be great if these were the most embarrassing things we had to deal with?  No problem out here, I’m sure. The first time I wrote it, I tried to reply and completely screwed up.  Not only did I screw up _my_ post, but screwed up the replies that people kindly wrote in.  I also somehow used the wrong signature name, for which I am deeply sorry.  So if anyone has not seen this, I would like to repeat my post as I really could use some help: Recently, everything seemed to have been going very well here.   There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known. (At least don’t remember ever knowing.)

That’s wonderful. Suddenly, it seems out or nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.

What lets you recognize this? It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all

true) Which ear? (Wish I had some rationale for the question, but I don’t.) Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_  about me. The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is.

Could you describe the tone?  Is it fast or slow?  Does it speak in complete sentences?  Will it respond to questions?  Does it seem to repeat the exact same phrases?  Does it have a human, emotional quality to it, or is it more mechanical?  Does what it says seem to have any relationship to what is happening around you? As you listen to the voice, does it seem to you that there is a particular place it is speaking from?  I don’t mean, how close to your ear, although that would be interesting, too, but a particular place and time. Is it the voice of anyone you have known?  Male or female?  Can you guess how old it is?  What part of the country it is from? The  most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way. Told the T about it today, and he feels that it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind, STOP, GO AWAY.  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear.

Is it actually a whisper, or just quiet?  Is it clearer when you attend to it? This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks.

Isn’t that just the way?  Like you get a homework assignment.  Great. Any help out there??

Well, probably can’t help, but happy to listen.  Email if you like. pong – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nahanton

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, Recently, everything seems to have been going very well here.  There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known.  (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out of nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought that it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me.  The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind "Stop, GO Away".  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just  until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there????

i really dont know exactly what is in your case.. but it reminds me of two things i recently read……. there are people on another list i read, feeling that some people will have specific programming come out in response to the millennium change… if it has to do with that, that could be why it feels ‘different’… of course i do not know how it ‘feels’ to you….. however, if you are really sure it is not ‘you’ and not a part of you or any programming sequence, then it sounds to me a LOT like the voices my friends on the schiz list report. voices in the ear, telling you how pathetic you are, telling you what a loser you are, and giving VERY bad advice. if you also end up having voices like that, sometimes medicine will help, but the people i know who hear stuff like that day in and day out learn to ignore it and talk back to it. if this is not a real alter but just a voice, that will work for you. :) )) either way, take care. anna Nahanton

– "blessed am i to dwell in this beautiful temple"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone.  With an acute sense of embarrassment, I am trying to write this post again.  The first time I wrote it, I tried to reply and completely screwed up.  Not only did I screw up _my_ post, but screwed up the replies that people kindly wrote in.  I also somehow used the wrong signature name, for which I am deeply sorry.  So if anyone has not seen this, I would like to repeat my post as I really could use some help: Recently, everything seemed to have been going very well here. There was a sense of quiet and peace that I’ve never known. (At least don’t remember ever knowing.) Suddenly, it seems out or nowhere, I’ve been bombarded with obsessive negative intrusive thoughts.  They don’t stop.  At first I thought it was a new part, but pretty quickly realized that that just wasn’t so.  It’s a voice in my ear saying the most awful things. (and they’re all true)  Reminding me of things that happened, and how I reacted when I was little, to what a loser I am now, and how noone in the world would ever want me if they _really knew_ about me. The advice the voice gives is pretty bad too.  Don’t want to get into splats and spoilers, but I think you can guess what it is. The  most scary things is that it makes sense in a perverse kind of way.  Told the T about it today, and he feels that it has to do with PTSD.  That we’ve cleared away alot of "stuff", and there it was.  I YELL in my mind, STOP, GO AWAY.  It doesn’t help.  When Louise bellows, it does leave, but just until Louise isn’t there anymore, and then it’s back whispering in my ear. This is so creepy and frightening.  Have any of you had any experience with this?  I have one more appointment with my T, and then he goes on vacation for two weeks. Any help out there?? Nahanton Hello, Nahanton,

     I don’t have any way of helping, but I have had similar times when I could hear frightening things being said too. For me they seem to be inside, though, not outside my ear. Mine also tell me terrible things that I should do to us, and I try to tell them to stop. Usually that makes them worse for me. If I listen to them it is better. Acknowledge them. I just have to remember not to act on what they say. What you are describing sounds a lot like one awful time when after a session with my t I went to my car and darned if my m*ther’s voice didn’t arrive and tell me things similar to what you are hearing. It was terrifying to me to hear her (she is de*d and, I thought, I hoped, gone)It was like she was right there yelling at me. Not exactly like the insiders, but somehow different. I posted here about it. Do you remember? Maybe it is something like what is happening to you?  I went back inside and my t spent some extra time with me trying to figure this out and getting me okay to drive home. But yours don’t seem like new insiders? We finally discovered that my baddies want to k*ll me so that I will be safe. Yeah really! Now I can tell them that it will be okay and they don’t have to do that. It helps. Wish I could help you more. Write if it will help to calm things for you. I will be here as much as possible over the next week. I will get back to you. E-mail is fine too.  I wish that we could just talk, though. We might figure out better what is happening. Jane Before you buy.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I want to thank everyone for responding to my request for some understanding about what’s happening with these obsessive negative intrusive thoughts. I still don’t quite "get" it, but I’ve started to take the advice of several people who posted, and just listen.  It’s very difficult to do this, because of all the negative things that are being said.  It seems that if I stay very still and listen, it seems to fade away after a while.  It does come back which startles me, but then, I try to stay quiet.  It is definitely a man’s voice which scares me.  I’ve never experienced that before. For Pong:  The voice "whispers" in my "right" ear.  What do you make of

that? That you put up with me with grace and humor. :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m trying for some humor here, since I’ve realized that a disembodied voice can’t really hurt me.  It just scares the h*ll out of me.  Who needs a man whispering in one’s ear and saying such terrible stuff? Maybe it _is_ a new insider, I just don’t know.  I try to keep telling him that everything will be all right.  Actually, I really don’t know what the h*ll I’m doing.  Sort of a mix of everything everyone posted. If anyone has any additional advice on how to get this man out of my (right) ear, I would appreciate it.

Sort of a variant on the old joke — "I can’t hear you, I’ve got a man in my ear." Well, since it fades away after a while when you listen, do you think you could try saying to it, "I hear you telling me . . .", in a neutral tone? Probably not pleasant stuff to repeat, but it does seem to respond to attention. Thanks, Nahanton

Best of Luck, pong

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Hi, Nahanton and Pong,    I think that Pong is on the right track. At least it is similar to what I do with my voices who want to hurt me. I try to pay attention to them, and then tell them that things will be okay, that the T is taking care of the worrying situation, things like that. It seems to help calm them down. They don’t bother me nearly as much now. But I know, Nahanton, what you mean. I kept telling myself that they were "not real" to which they replied that they certainly are real. I told my otherselves that they were not really able to hurt me. But they scare the daylights out of me when they are rampaging in there. Mine talk to my left. But mostly just inside my ear. WEird!  I understand, Nahanton, and I wish that I had some wonderful answers for you. Write or e-mail if you want. I’m around. jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I want to thank everyone for responding to my request for some understanding about what’s happening with these obsessive negative intrusive thoughts. I still don’t quite "get" it, but I’ve started to take the advice of several people who posted, and just listen.  It’s very difficult to do this, because of all the negative things that are being said.  It seems that if I stay very still and listen, it seems to fade away after a while.  It does come back which startles me, but then, I try to stay quiet.  It is definitely a man’s voice which scares me.  I’ve never experienced that before. For Pong:  The voice "whispers" in my "right" ear.  What do you make of that? That you put up with me with grace and humor. :) I’m trying for some humor here, since I’ve realized that a disembodied voice can’t really hurt me.  It just scares the h*ll out of me.  Who needs a man whispering in one’s ear and saying such terrible stuff? Maybe it _is_ a new insider, I just don’t know.  I try to keep telling him that everything will be all right.  Actually, I really don’t know what the h*ll I’m doing.  Sort of a mix of everything everyone posted. If anyone has any additional advice on how to get this man out of my (right) ear, I would appreciate it. Sort of a variant on the old joke — "I can’t hear you, I’ve got a man in my ear." Well, since it fades away after a while when you listen, do you think you could try saying to it, "I hear you telling me . . .", in a neutral tone? Probably not pleasant stuff to repeat, but it does seem to respond to attention. Thanks, Nahanton Best of Luck, pong

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Hi everyone, I want to thank everyone for responding to my request for some understanding about what’s happening with these obsessive negative intrusive thoughts. I still don’t quite "get" it, but I’ve started to take the advice of several people who posted, and just listen.  It’s very difficult to do this, because of all the negative things that are being said.  It seems that if I stay very still and listen, it seems to fade away after a while.  It does come back which startles me, but then, I try to stay quiet.  It is definitely a man’s voice which scares me.  I’ve never experienced that before.   For Pong:  The voice "whispers" in my "right" ear.  What do you make of that? I’m trying for some humor here, since I’ve realized that a disembodied voice can’t really hurt me.  It just scares the h*ll out of me.  Who needs a man whispering in one’s ear and saying such terrible stuff? Maybe it _is_ a new insider, I just don’t know.  I try to keep telling him that everything will be all right.  Actually, I really don’t know what the h*ll I’m doing.  Sort of a mix of everything everyone posted. If anyone has any additional advice on how to get this man out of my (right) ear, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Nahanton

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