Question:
Hi there Saint, Thanks for responding. And if I may be so bold as to ask, how far back in time were you created that there were no meds for OCD? I personally feel that there still aren’t any meds for OCD or any psychiatric/emotional "disturbances" but I would never say that(heehee) because anytime I do I become saintly martyred for having the audacity to believe in myself. I don’t get it, I guess people are threatened somehow. I deal with OCD every day, and sometimes it’s a battle from second to second. To make a very long inventory short of my OCD issues it’s easier to say what ocd themes I haven’t had such as trichotrichotrich-oh forget it-I can never remember how to spell that. I’ve never really had any food consumption or nonconsumption issues. And that’s about it. I have had checking and checking and checking and checking and checking issues and cleansing and cleansing and cleansing and cleansing and cleansing and cleansing and religous and religous and religous and religous and driving and driving and running living things and running over living things and the stove is on and on and on and on and the door is not locked and not locked and not locked and I’m poisoning people and poisoning people because I’m not clean and not clean and I’ve contaminated and contaminated and contaminated and I must stand under that shower and wash my eyes and wash my eyes and wipe and wipe and wipe and wipe after I go to the bathroom and go to the bathroom and never leave the bathroom and never leave the bathroom and did I give the cashier the right amount of change the right amount of change the right amount of change I’m stealing I’m stealing I’m stealing I’m stealing……………etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., adnauseum adfinitum OH YEAH!!!!!!!!
Response:
David A. Soltesz wrote: > I’m curious if there is anyone else out > there who is going it med free also.
Hi, David. I had a very bad case of compulsions when I was a teenager. OCD meds didn’t exist in those days. After 4 years, I got over them. I didn’t understand the reason until many years later, when I was an adult. I had been struggling to accept my sexuality. When I stopped bottling it up, the compulsions went away. I suppose you could say that was medless. I still have a lot of OC personality traits, which is why I’ve come to this NG. Dennis — For more information about this service, send e-mail to: h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
Response:
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:18:11 -0600, jmsd…@ANTI-SPAMmindspring.com (cloud9) wrote: >I find this statement very interesting. Being a Freud-ite, I am interested >in the psycho-sexual etiology of neuroses. When you say you were >struggling to accept your sexuality, do you mean you are homosexual?
No, just normal heterosexuality! My family was very prudish, and my OC perfectionism magnified that. And my getting over my OCD could be conceived in different ways. One therapist I talked to about this, the only behaviorist I’ve seen, said that it was the relief of tension and the distraction, both from orgasm, that broke up my OCD. You could understand it like that, or in the psychodynamic way you’re probably thinking about. I’m familiar with psychoanalytic theory, both from reading about it and from experience (unfortunately, as you’ll see in a moment). >I think that it is very possible that OCD is produced by shame from >non-mainstream sexual desires.
I believe that it’s genetic and biochemical, as current science believes. My experience is very unusual for OCD sufferers. One doc, a neurologist, said to me, "What do you mean, you just got over it? No one just gets over OCD!" ;-) > I admire you for admitting that your >sexuality had something to do with your OCD. In today’s psychological >society, anything to do with Freud or sexual causes of mental illnesses is >ridiculed.
I shall have great difficulty in refraining from ridiculing you!!! I was receiving psychotherapy from a very Freudian institution. In fact at one point I had a year of classical Freudian psychoanalysis — a total disaster, the worst experience in therapy I have ever had! In spite of the impressive credentials of the institution in question, my analyst and one of my therapists, the one I spent the most time with, were very messed-up people themselves. For a long time I blotted the whole thing out of my mind. It’s the only case of PTSD-type memory suppression I’ve had, so far. I was forced to re-open the whole issue when I turned 30; it was very painful. If I had had a truly competent therapist, the whole thing could have resolved better, no doubt. I still don’t think that traditional psychotherapy is a good idea for OCD sufferers and OC personality types. We’re in our heads too much already, and traditional therapy just encourages us to do more of it. I’ve had too much personal experience of that! I’ve had therapy as an adult too, and it didn’t work out well then, either. The latest OCD books say the same thing. In fact, I’d like to open the whole issue of psychotherapy and its usefulness for OC personalities up for discussion. No one thinks traditional therapy is useful for OCD, although behavior therapy is. The other question is, what can you do about OC personality problems? Dennis — For more information about this service, send e-mail to: h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
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