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Marines Charged in Iraqi Prisoner Death

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     NOW you would be wrong…..and they WILL be tried by a Courts Martial i.e a military court, which has the nasty knack of placing service members in the precarious position of being charged under civilian law, and if civilian law has no punishment the military has it’s own rules BEYOND ( read: we will charge you with a crime under either civilian, military, or both laws ) those of free men. Just watch the lawyers claim that these marines were psychotic due to PTSD, that they needed to obtain information about imminent threats, etc etc. i

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I meant to write "Let’s NOT condemn them…" in the first sentence.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let’s condemn them or call them murderers without knowing the facts because it fits a "the war in Iraq is wrong" mindset.  Not that I agree with the war but let’s not condemn the low level soldier for the policy screwups of the administration.

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You are absolutely correct about that.  Some people in this thread have alleged that there will be a cover-up.  However, the opposite may be true.  According to the articles I read, the Marine general in charge called the death the worst thing that happened during his command in Iraq and there has been testimony that military determined that wrong-doing occurred prior to any investigation. Once the commanding officer has that in his head about someone, in most cases, the full brunt of the military justice system will fall on that person.  These soldiers may be being set-up as scapegoats and if they are not punished, it will most likely be because the case against them is extremely weak. Let’s condemn them or call them murderers without knowing the facts because it fits a "the war in Iraq is wrong" mindset.  Not that I agree with the war but let’s not condemn the low level soldier for the policy screwups of the administration. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NOW you would be wrong…..and they WILL be tried by a Courts Martial i.e a military court, which has the nasty knack of placing service members in the precarious position of being charged under civilian law, and if civilian law has no punishment the military has it’s own rules BEYOND ( read: we will charge you with a crime under either civilian, military, or both laws ) those of free men.  BigUn I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet. So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — KB9WFK stood up at show-n-tell, in – Rauni stood up at show-n-tell, in In article I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet. DING DING DING!  WRONG! So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance. The only ignorance, that I see, is you making assumptions. So far, you have seen opinions. Which have, for the most part, been stupid and prejudicial, borne out of ignorance. You remind me of an IMP.  Need clarification?  An Imp is a loyal ass-kisser to the Empire, in Star Wars. Buncha fucking bootlickers.  They kill innocent people all because the ‘Emporer’ says so.  You, really, remind me of that type of person. Go lick someone’s boots, IMP. A Star Wars cite?  LOL kb9wfk formerly of, HHC 3/41st Inf.  2AD

Is there a reason you replied to my post, addressed nothing I said and replied to a line that is 4 posts old made by someone else?   I shouldn’t expect too much I guess.  The SW cite should have clued me in. kb9wfk

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    NOW you would be wrong…..and they WILL be tried by a Courts Martial i.e a military court, which has the nasty knack of placing service members in the precarious position of being charged under civilian law, and if civilian law has no punishment the military has it’s own rules BEYOND ( read: we will charge you with a crime under either civilian, military, or both laws ) those of free men.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BigUn I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet. So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance.

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- KB9WFK stood up at show-n-tell, in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – – Rauni stood up at show-n-tell, in In article I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet. DING DING DING!  WRONG! So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance.

The only ignorance, that I see, is you making assumptions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So far, you have seen opinions. Which have, for the most part, been stupid and prejudicial, borne out of ignorance. You remind me of an IMP.  Need clarification?  An Imp is a loyal ass-kisser to the Empire, in Star Wars. Buncha fucking bootlickers.  They kill innocent people all because the ‘Emporer’ says so.  You, really, remind me of that type of person. Go lick someone’s boots, IMP. A Star Wars cite?  LOL kb9wfk formerly of, HHC 3/41st Inf.  2AD

– Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yawn, come back when you have another brain cell That has got to be the ‘wittiest’ comeback, of all time.  You show your brilliance. PS – You dropped your white kiwi shine for your armor (imp).  Being a shitty, lowly, stormtrooper must really piss you off I bet.  The masters of bootlicking. — Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit Not worth getting pent up about Strontium.  Actually I reckon this could even be rr.  If we pretend it doesn’t exist then it will eventually get bored baiting us and go play with some other newsgroup who isn’t fed up with it.

Probably not.  It was cross posted to misc.survivalism and that is probably where "it" came from. Rambler

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Rauni stood up at show-n-tell, in BigUn I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet. DING DING DING!  WRONG! So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance. So far, you have seen opinions.  

Which have, for the most part, been stupid and prejudicial, borne out of ignorance. You remind me of an IMP.  Need clarification?  An Imp is a loyal ass-kisser to the Empire, in Star Wars. Buncha fucking bootlickers.  They kill innocent people all because the ‘Emporer’ says so.  You, really, remind me of that type of person. Go lick someone’s boots, IMP.

A Star Wars cite?  LOL   kb9wfk formerly of, HHC 3/41st Inf.  2AD

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- Rauni stood up at show-n-tell, in Yawn, come back when you have another brain cell

That has got to be the ‘wittiest’ comeback, of all time.  You show your brilliance. PS – You dropped your white kiwi shine for your armor (imp).  Being a shitty, lowly, stormtrooper must really piss you off I bet.  The masters of bootlicking. — Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yawn, come back when you have another brain cell That has got to be the ‘wittiest’ comeback, of all time.  You show your brilliance. PS – You dropped your white kiwi shine for your armor (imp).  Being a shitty, lowly, stormtrooper must really piss you off I bet.  The masters of bootlicking. — Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit

Not worth getting pent up about Strontium.  Actually I reckon this could even be rr.  If we pretend it doesn’t exist then it will eventually get bored baiting us and go play with some other newsgroup who isn’t fed up with it. Megan.

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- Rauni stood up at show-n-tell, in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BigUn I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment. How many combat vets have contributed to this thread? How many people who have contributed to this thread have even been in the military or understand military justice. Zero I bet.

DING DING DING!  WRONG! So far all I have seen is stupid prejudicial remarks borne out of ignorance.

So far, you have seen opinions.  You remind me of an IMP.  Need clarification?  An Imp is a loyal ass-kisser to the Empire, in Star Wars. Buncha fucking bootlickers.  They kill innocent people all because the ‘Emporer’ says so.  You, really, remind me of that type of person. Go lick someone’s boots, IMP. — Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit

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I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment.

They are no better then the men they killed.  They played judge jury and executioner, they brutally killed another human being! I understand the primitive need to "revenge" however! A gun up side the head would have been more "humane" don’t you think. If the big bad marine boys :p wana play tough, let them shit kick each other while they all go off and get stinking drunk together!! What Heroes! Really, I am glad I’m not an American. I’m not putting All Americans in the same light, I am saying that as a mass Americans still seem to have a bit of a neanderthal way of looking at things. <yikes I’m outta here <ducking to avoid the flames ;) Peace Sharon

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I’d like to see them commended. Quite possibly, that’s what will happen to those murderers. They will be commended, or otherwise not punished or given some token punishment.

How many combat vets have contributed to this thread?

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Who? Your quoting skills seem to be lacking. So, doubt your ‘commending’ skills are up to par. – BigUn stood up at show-n-tell, in I’d like to see them commended.

– Strontium "It’s no surprise, to me.  I am my own worst enemy.  `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin’ shit `outta me." – Lit

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I’d like to see them commended.

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