Trauma – PTSD

Question:

Kane: >A great percentage of the time relatives >are unfit. And even when they are most >will try to palm the job off on someone >else rather than to get into an intercene >warfare situation with the bio >parents….you do know that family would >be fighting family…right?

<snip> I have seen several cases where CPS has attempted to hand the children over to other family members.  But many times negligence/abuse runs in the family.  Frequently (not always) grandparents, aunts, uncles etc. are no better off than the bios.  In the cases that I have experience with the bio relatives can’t even pass the initial home inspection. Another reason that relative placement doesn’t happen is because the bios, perhaps out of shame don’t tell CPS how to find family members. Plant’s entire battle about this relative placement thing makes no sense.  I wonder why she believes that CPS won’t place children with relatives?

Response:

Kane, the child WAS IN STRANGER FOSTER CARE. DCF made NO effort to seek out the willing relatives. The problem is SO ACUTE that the Family Law Section of the ABA exhorts its members to advocate for placement with relatives. Family law attorneys are very familiar with the fact that often CPS does NOT place children with relatives. You are misreading the facts.  The child was never placed with family members. Email list in Florida for DCF illegalities: Familiesbestinterestflor…@yahoogroups.com Kane again misinterpreted:  >From: pohakuyakok…@subdimension.com  (Kane) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Date: 8/16/2002 11:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <7ed8d1be.0208161919.2253d…@posting.google.com> >fern5…@aol.com (Fern5827) wrote in message ><news:20020816105254.04922.00001251@mb-cu.aol.com>… >> Judge Cindy Lederman apologized to the Mom who had caseworker Pronga with >the >> child, strapped, screaming to her carseat, while Ms. Pronga was passed out >at >> the wheel of her car, and care, dead drunk. >> Why didn’t DCF seek kinship (relative care) sooner? >If you read the story carefully you will see they said "returned to >one of her relatives." What would the use of the word "returned" >suggest to you? >One of the things the media NEVER gets into, for fear of a suit, is >telling the whole story in these cases. >A great percentage of the time relatives are unfit. And even when they >are most will try to palm the job off on someone else rather than to >get into an intercene warfare situation with the bio parents….you do >know that family would be fighting family…right? >And often the person reporting the parent for neglect and abuse IS the >family member, another reason it doesn’t look good to turn the child >over to the one calling in the complaint…or is that too hard for you >to figure out? >Family fueding is common in such cases, with accusations and counter >accusations flying. "She’s trying to steal my baby away from me" is >one of the most common. >That’s why relatives don’t come forward even when asked, until the >very last minute when they are told there will be TPR and the child >will be at risk of being adoped by strangers….finally, a family >member will come forward. >Your continuing bullshit about the failure of CPS to find and use >relatives for placement is your usual mindless babble, Turniphead. >In fact many states go to extreme lengths to keep children with family >members, offering extra services, training, respite, clothing, all the >things any foster parent gets in that particular state. The public has >not taken kindly to that, expecting family to care for family without >state support…their tax dollars. >Despite all the obsticles states STILL try to place with relatives. >You are a liar. >The problem isn’t placing kids with relatives, it’s finding relatives >that will take them and aren’t themselves a risk to the safety of the >children. >Get the carrots out of your ears. Maybe you can kickstart your brain >again. >> ————————————————————————– >> —— >>  Posted on Thu, Aug. 15, 2002   >> Judge apologizes to mother of baby put in harm’s way >> BY LUISA YANEZ >> lya…@herald.com >> A Miami-Dade Circuit Court judge apologized profusely Wednesday to a mother >> whose baby, placed in foster care in June, was found in the car of a >Department >> of Children & Families caseworker after police charged the caseworker with >> drunk driving. >> Calling it ”unforgivable” to have put 7-month-old Latajah Coney >Allbritton in >> harm’s way, Judge Cindy Lederman told 19-year-old Irene Coney that her baby >> might soon be returned to one of her relatives. >> ”Let me begin by saying that I think this is unforgivable and inexcusable. >. . >> . I’m so sorry,” Lederman told Coney at the start of a hearing to discuss >> custody of her baby. >> On July 25, Coral Gables police found caseworker Mirla Pronga in her >> still-running 1995 Toyota Corolla, which was stopped in the middle of >Biltmore >> Drive. Pronga was slumped over the steering wheel, an open bottle of >Bacardi >> next to her. >> Hungry and crying, Latajah was in a car seat in the back of the vehicle. >> Pronga, 56, an 11-year employee who lives in northwest Miami-Dade, was >> immediately fired by the child welfare agency. Along with driving under the >> influence, she also faces a felony count of child neglect and is scheduled >to >> be arraigned today on that charge in Miami-Dade Circuit Court. >Yah know, this just didn’t happen, according to some of the posters >here. CPS employees have immunity and are NEVER prosecuted or >disciplined for such things…arh ahr arh. >> At Wednesday’s hearing, agency officials also apologized to Coney, >according to >> her attorney. >And of course this didn’t happen either, if some posters to this ng >are to be believed. CPS is too arrogant, and sweeps everything under >the rug, and ignores these issues when caught…right? >> ”Everyone said they were sorry for having put her through this,” said >Robert >> Lawrence, who said his client is exploring the possibility of filing a >civil >> lawsuit against the state agency. >Of course, rightly so. That’s how the system works, all the fucking >time despite what you vegetables want to believe and the lies you tell >each other. >> The embattled agency, reeling from the resignation of Secretary Kathleen >> Kearney this week, has been enveloped in a four-month scandal beginning >with >> the disappearance of 5-year-old foster child Rilya Wilson while in state >> custody. >> ”When a state agency, such as DCF, removes a child from the loving arms of >a >> natural parent, citing concerns for the child’s welfare, and places the >child >> into the arms of an allegedly drunk caseworker, it’s time to say: Enough is >> enough,” Lawrence said. >> At the hearing, Lederman, who also handled the Rilya case, moved to get >Latajah >> out of state custody. She indicated she will likely allow the baby to be >handed >> over to Coney’s cousin as early as next Friday. The woman must first pass a >> criminal background check, as is standard procedure. Coney lives with her >> mother in North Miami. >Notice, Turnipbrain, that the state, doing what you donkeys claim it >doesn’t, protect children, wants to make sure the cousin is fit to >parent and protect the child. Gosh, could that be what’s taking the >time? >> Latajah was taken from her mother on June 12 after the state agency claimed >> that the mother had not attended a follow-up appointment scheduled after >the >> child suffered an unexplained broken leg while she was being watched by >someone >> else, Coney said last month. >A relative maybe? >> The hospital staff at Parkway Regional Medical Center reported the injury >to >> state officials, who scheduled a meeting with Coney to discuss the injury. >> Coney admits she erred in not keeping the appointment. >> Coney had been fighting ever since to get her daughter back, she said. As >> requested by the agency, she has attended parenting classes. >> Lawrence said that efforts had been under way to return the baby to Coney >or >> relatives even before Pronga’s arrest, but that progress had been slow. >Shouldn’t be. The caseworkers in the area only have 75 to 150 cases or >so on their workload. What’s the hold up. Freddie the Turnip could do >it faster. >> On the day of the incident, Pronga was supposed to allow Coney to visit >with >> her daughter. That fell through after Coney said Pronga failed to notify >her of >> the 1 p.m. meeting. >> In a telephone conversation that afternoon, Coney said, Pronga chastised >her >> and said she had made her late for a court hearing and was now forced to >take >> Latajah along. Pronga was to return the baby to a foster home. >> About 9:30 p.m., Pronga was found in her car, along with Latajah. >> After her arrest, an earlier DUI charge against Pronga surfaced. In 1993, >she >> was charged with and convicted of DUI in Broward County, records show. >> In that case, Pronga was picked up after a Florida Highway Patrol trooper >saw >> her driving erratically at 35 to 40 mph on Florida’s Turnpike. >> Lawrence said the baby is well and remains in foster care. >Gee the baby is safe. Darn, don’t that just frost your tips, Plant? >One more thing you can’t rant about and lie and bullshit. >arh arh arh, >Stoneman >PS make a more careful less prejudiced read of the article and see if >you can piece things together with a bit less bias, and take your head >out of your ass to do it. That could be your entire problem. S >> ————————————————————————– >> —— >>

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