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I had a bad experience with a LCSW once. His assumptions and assertions felt cruel and even insulting. I didn’t go back. I stayed with the other LCSW I was seeing concurrently and liked him quite a bit. He was tactful and made me feel like I was in the right place. But all of this can be beat or at least reduced enough that you’ll live a much happier life. If I was, then you sure can too KBeth. Good luck!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -kbeth wrote in message <36a20bec.9661…@news.asan.com>… >Hi Scott, >If I don’t ask for reassurance… I will be convinced that my fear is >true. I have tried it. I’m not merely uncomfortable, I crash into >depression… not sadness… severe depression. >Behavior therapy works on some people, that’s great. On me it is cold, >cruel and dehumanizing. It is responsible for the severity of my >obsessions since my hospitalization 10 years ago. >I must face my fears on MY terms, when I’m ready.. in order to >survive… NOT on the terms of a detatched, arrogant, clinical, >doubt-mongering psychologist that has nooo clue of the damage they can >do with their ‘methods’. Which, from my experience is just as >damaging as giving a sensitive patient high doses of powerful meds too >quickly because it worked fine on the less sensitive patient (which is >also my *experience*).
You are not the first person who has had this experience with "inexperienced" or "inadequate" docs. I have heard from several who have had very bad experiences with BT or been over medicated by docs who "know" what your problem is even if they know nothing about you outside the fact that you have ocd. You are right about making progress on your terms and in your time. You do know better what you can do and what you can’t do. Getting some help with knowing, understanding, and developing your "self" better just might lead to your being able to things you never thought possible. You have great insight, but insight without a good, strong sense of your self doesn’t help you do what you already know you need to do. — Take care of your "self". whatatrip rbol…@premier1.net
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kbeth wrote in message <36a18cf8.4467…@news.asan.com>… >I screwed up somehow, right? I always do
We all do screwup somehow, right? We always do. We can’t live without offending or alienating others. If we try to live this way, we would not be able to do anything and consequently we could not be a supportive or positive force. There does not exist a way of living that has only a positive or a negative effect. All actions will have both a negative factor and a positive factor. We, most of us, are not like your mother, we can engage in dialog without expecting you to behave in a manner that "we" prefer. We will not "punish" you for being yourself. Post away. — Take care of your "self". whatatrip rbol…@premier1.net
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Nope. Just OCD self doubt rearing its ugly head. Asking your wife or husband if they love you 20 times a day just so you can get the reassurance you need is related to feeling like you screwed up. You can be told 10,000 times that you haven’t screwed up but the first time you do, you doubt the other 9,999 you didn’t. Kbeth good to see you posting kbeth <kb…@asan.com> wrote in message
news:36a18cf8.4467797@news.asan.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I screwed up somehow, right? I always do
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Hi Scott, If I don’t ask for reassurance… I will be convinced that my fear is true. I have tried it. I’m not merely uncomfortable, I crash into depression… not sadness… severe depression. Behavior therapy works on some people, that’s great. On me it is cold, cruel and dehumanizing. It is responsible for the severity of my obsessions since my hospitalization 10 years ago. I must face my fears on MY terms, when I’m ready.. in order to survive… NOT on the terms of a detatched, arrogant, clinical, doubt-mongering psychologist that has nooo clue of the damage they can do with their ‘methods’. Which, from my experience is just as damaging as giving a sensitive patient high doses of powerful meds too quickly because it worked fine on the less sensitive patient (which is also my *experience*). I’m sorry if I seem defensive, it’s not directed at you, just the ‘method’. I can’t let myself be pursuaded again out of desperation for a ‘cure’. Please don’t take my strong emotion personally, I know you’re trying to help. I know you mean well. 
I wish you peace and freedom… -kbeth On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:46:02 -0500, "Scott C." <sccar…@borg.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->kbeth wrote: >> I screwed up somehow, right? I always do >kbeth, > To respond would just be feeding the OCD. It makes you worry about >things like this…I think it’s good that you posted. Keep right on >posting. Onthing you might try…when you get thoughts like this, don’t >ask for reassurance. You might feel uncomfortable for a while but in >the long run it should get better. Take care, Scott >– >*********************************************************************** >mailto:sccar…@borg.com Scott C. @–>–>—
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I screwed up somehow, right? I always do
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I think you’re feeling paranoid, kbeth. Is there a specific post that you are referring to? You haven’t alienated me (you remind me of myself when I was younger) and I think you have a lot of other people on your side, too. Ya just have to keep in mind that this is a newsgroup where every topic introduced is debated back and forth and some people get really passionate about it. Unless someone has said something personal about you, I wouldn’t worry about it (easier said than done……TRY not to worry about it). Ida – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -kbeth wrote in message <36a18cf8.4467…@news.asan.com>… >I screwed up somehow, right? I always do
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Kbeth- perhaps your fear of screwing up comes from your fear of abandonment. This fear of not being worthy, or that somehow you are not good enough. Perhaps you learned it from your fear of rejection. I used to have this fear also. One of the things I used to get better was to accept myself warts and all. I had earlier posted a link on PTSD so maybe it will help also. Try to relax and clear your mind the best you can. If you have bad thoughts perhaps consciously thinking about them might help. Like desensitizing yourself some kind of way. Anyway I think of
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