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>Galin, I am Pagan too, and don’t remember seeing your original posts (
Oh god, not you too!! Is this alt.support. trauma-ptsd or is it: alt.support.bisexual-pagan.former.warrior.reincarnation????? Must we drag religion and witchy woman beliefs in here now? Where’s Samantha and Endora?? Lu
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LuanneP wrote in message <19990107113027.00849.00013…@ng-fi1.aol.com>… >>When I introduced myself as a Druid to this group I was afraid they would >>laugh at me or tell me I was fanatic, >Maybe your PTSD comes from you former life, and you dragged it along??? >Luanne
That’s very astute Lu…..I understand that this is quite possible. Several of my friends are into paganism…they call me a druid too and say that when I get into my power I will be awesome, I am finding that I am getting verey good at reading people and have done a liittle healing work. James "Try, there is no try. There is only do, or not do"–Yoda, Jedi Master
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>That’s very astute Lu…..I understand that this is quite possible. Several >of my friends are into paganism…they call me a druid too and say that when >I get into my power I will be awesome, I am finding that I am getting verey
Well, since I was the "Virgin Mary" in my "former life" how come the holiness didn’t follow me?????? <smirk> Lu
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Luanne, I really feel sorry for you, to have that much anger and no way to deal with it except to judge other people and stir up trouble. I hope that you can find some peace and comfort for yourself soon. blessings, Renee *what other people think of you is none of your business* *If you are going through hell, KEEP MOVING!* ______________________________ LuanneP wrote in message
<19990107134828.03817.00003…@ng-cg1.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Galin, I am Pagan too, and don’t remember seeing your original posts ( >Oh god, not you too!! >Is this alt.support. trauma-ptsd or is it: >alt.support.bisexual-pagan.former.warrior.reincarnation????? >Must we drag religion and witchy woman beliefs in here now? Where’s Samantha >and Endora?? >Lu
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>Luanne, I really feel sorry for you, to have that much anger and no way >to deal with it except to judge other people and stir up trouble.
Renee: I feel sorry for you. You find it very hard to stay on topic, and frankly, I was very upset at the advise that you gave to Galin the other night. You seem to consider yourself an expert on PTSD, even though you were only diagnosed a short time ago and do not take meds. I’ve been sick for twenty years with it. You’re a newbie on this ng and you act like a "know-it-all" and I am not the only one who said that about you!! Yes, I feel for people, but I speak my mind and tell it like it is. I relate to people like Bill and George who suffer severe symptoms as I do and tend not to minumize situations. I wish that you would stay with your little list of PTSD people who have successful family lives and manage to get college degrees while suffering from the ‘demons’ brought on by PTSD! Luanne
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Hello DayaLi, I do not know if you already read it in other posts from me, but I am a Pagan too. A Druid actually, reincarnated with that identity since the time of the early Celts. I was a warrior before. Being a Druid is the essence of my spirit and soul, and the lore is still with me. When I introduced myself as a Druid to this group I was afraid they would laugh at me or tell me I was fanatic, weird, crazy even, and that religion and magic is shit and does not exist. I would either have started a bitter fight or fallen into deep depression. But I have not made such experiences. This group accepts me as I am, it is a really caring community. My traumatic experiences were very strange too, hard to believe for others, and I am still afraid of mentioning them in any way because right after having posted a report I had to stay offline for about one month and to change my provider then – I never saw any reply to that post, so I still do not know what the people in here think about it. However, welcome to this group, although I am sorry that you had to come here (without bad experiences you would not have had to search for a group like this), and I am glad that I am not the only Pagan here 
Blessed be, Galin
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>I do not know if you already read it in other posts from me, but I am a >Pagan too. A Druid actually, reincarnated with that identity since the time >of the early Celts. I was a warrior before.
Oh man oh man……I don’t know if I can handle this stuff!! Galin, this reincarnation crap ticks me off. Can’t we stay on topic here? I don’t believe in this bullshit (reincarnation), and I don’t think that it should be discussed here. Luanne
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>When I introduced myself as a Druid to this group I was afraid they would >laugh at me or tell me I was fanatic,
Maybe your PTSD comes from you former life, and you dragged it along??? Luanne
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luan…@aol.comet (LuanneP) wrote: Galin wrote: >>I do not know if you already read it in other posts from me, but I am >>a Pagan too. A Druid actually, reincarnated with that identity since >>the time of the early Celts. I was a warrior before. >Oh man oh man……I don’t know if I can handle this stuff!!
If you can’t handle it, just don’t read his stuff. >Galin, this reincarnation crap ticks me off. Can’t we stay on topic >here? I don’t believe in this bullshit (reincarnation), and I don’t >think that it should be discussed here.
You didn’t have a problem with him talking about his art or his music. Funny that those ‘off-topic’ topics are okay, but this other aspect of his life is not. Hmmmm. Leave the kid alone, for crying out loud! He’s already been traumatized by the world. He doesn’t need any of your crap to traumatize him further. If you don’t like what he has to say, you know what? YOU DON’T HAVE TO READ IT! Is this the way you demonstrate the loving kindness of *your* religion, dearie? I’ve been lurking long enough to have seen your nasty, vicious attacks against everyone who doesn’t adhere to The Gospel According to Luanne. Try cutting people a little slack. It’ll help relieve some of that tension of yours, and might even make you a happier person. Best wishes, Galin. I’m not a druid or anything even remotely close to it, but I support your right to believe as you see fit, and I hope you won’t be chased away by this one very angry woman. Do you have killfilter abilities with your newsreader? Freedom
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>And man, doesn’t it just SUCK, Luanne, when you can’t control >what people think about, believe, or choose to discuss?
Ya know what sucks more? When people respond to my comments with an anonymous email address and are too chicken-shit to post their own f*cking name!!! That is what sux! Luanne
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>If you can’t handle it, just don’t read his stuff.
Well, in my former life, I was the Virgin Mary! Put that in your pipe and smoke it, anonymous idiot. Luanne
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LuanneP wrote: >Maybe your PTSD comes from you former life, and you dragged it along???
Do you think I would ever dare to discuss that in here? Not at all. I came here because of a terrible trauma that happened in my current life and is driving me crazy, I can deal with the other ones.
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LuanneP wrote: >Galin Deiseal wrote: >>I do not know if you already read it in other posts from me, but I am a >>Pagan too. A Druid actually, reincarnated with that identity since the time >>of the early Celts. I was a warrior before. >Oh man oh man……I don’t know if I can handle this stuff!! Galin, this >reincarnation crap ticks me off. Can’t we stay on topic here? I don’t believe >in this bullshit (reincarnation), and I don’t think that it should be discussed >here.
I am really sorry for giving some info about myself, it will not happen again.
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Heya Luanne, >>And man, doesn’t it just SUCK, Luanne, when you can’t control >>what people think about, believe, or choose to discuss? >Ya know what sucks more? When people respond to my comments with >an anonymous email address and are too chicken-shit to post their >own f*cking name!!! That is what sux!
Might wanna do something with that anger, Luanne. When anger like that gets out of control, new people end up suffering ptsd. My abuser is online. He’s one of those many slime who are active in openly pedophile channels and newsgroups. I don’t want him tracking me. Do you have a problem with that, too? Morceaux PS: I don’t see a note from you in my email. Was it too difficult to reverse the words? — My mind is a bad neighborhood. I try not to go there alone. My email is really hotmail, not mailhot
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> Do you have > killfilter abilities with your newsreader? > Freedom
Here here!, and it’s a nicer NG with out all the bitching. Ahhhhhhh! — Peace is the answer… …wanna’ fight about it? -G. … and now…. Deep thoughts… by Jack Handy. To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there’s no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other.
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Galin, I am Pagan too, and don’t remember seeing your original posts (a month ago?) so I cannot comment on it. I am glad you feel comfortable and welcome here, and that you are back online now! We speak of meds, therapies, meditation, exercise here, and in addition, I am wondering how your faith and spirituality helps you through difficult times. What God/desses do you lean on, ask for comfort, or do you do this at all? I have been rather frustrated with the level of support I have received from the Pagan community – how about you? What have your experiences been? blessings, Renee *what other people think of you is none of your business* *If you are going through hell, KEEP MOVING!* ______________________________ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Galin Deiseal wrote in message … >Hello DayaLi, >I do not know if you already read it in other posts from me, but I am a >Pagan too. A Druid actually, reincarnated with that identity since the time >of the early Celts. I was a warrior before. Being a Druid is the essence of >my spirit and soul, and the lore is still with me. >When I introduced myself as a Druid to this group I was afraid they would >laugh at me or tell me I was fanatic, weird, crazy even, and that religion >and magic is shit and does not exist. I would either have started a bitter >fight or fallen into deep depression. >But I have not made such experiences. This group accepts me as I am, >it is a really caring community. >My traumatic experiences were very strange too, hard to believe for others, >and I am still afraid of mentioning them in any way because right after >having posted a report I had to stay offline for about one month and to >change my provider then – I never saw any reply to that post, so I still do >not know what the people in here think about it. >However, welcome to this group, although I am sorry that you had to come >here (without bad experiences you would not have had to search for a group >like this), and I am glad that I am not the only Pagan here >Blessed be, >Galin
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DayaLi, I am sorry to hear you were depressed yesterday – how are you feeling now? I’m glad you took care of yourself by staying home and doing what you needed to do for you. Thank you for sharing some of your spiritual beliefs with me. I really like the idea of going to bed forgiving someone every night. Hard Question: Do you forgive yourself? Thanks for the heads up on Hindu pantheon – I will have to take a closer look at that. As I was reading about your search for deieties that deal with trauma, I wondered if you would find it helpful to cast your net wider. I have been working with the Goddess Oracle deck, and decided to draw a card every day and journal on it. Last night’s card was Nut, Egyptian Goddess of the Night Sky, of Mystery. I journaled about letting go, giving up control, why the unknown frightens me so much. I have much to learn about various deities and mythology, and got this deck thinking that it was a good way to do some very basic exploration. Didn’t realize it was a means of comfort too. blessings, Renee *what other people think of you is none of your business* *If you are going through hell, KEEP MOVING!* _____________________________ I just had to do this wrote in message <367d4ef9.2845…@NEWS.EROLS.COM>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Thanks. >Well, my Path is a bit hard/difficult for most PagaWiccans(tm) to deal >with: I am a Hebreo-Pagan (they took exception to the Judeo part ><wink> ) I have found that by combining the Bedtime Shma ( a prayer >where you forgive everyone that has angered you during the day) and >Journeying techniques to be helpful. As of yet, I have not >encountered any dieties that deal in the alleviation of Trauma – most >inflict it. . . Yes, Eris is one of my Dieties, but even this is too >much for her. I have been advised to meditate on Ganesha, the Hindu >Remover of Obstacles The Hindu Pantheon seems to have more of a basis >in what humans need. >I found writing my post to be difficult. Which wasn’t made any easier >by the fact that I was bummed for most of the day. I spent it curled >up in bed instead of going to an acting workshop.
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On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:08:53 -0600, "Renee" <ren…@itis.com> wrote: >DayaLi, I am sorry to hear you were depressed yesterday – how are you >feeling now? I’m glad you took care of yourself by staying home and doing >what you needed to do for you. Thank you for sharing some of your spiritual >beliefs with me. I really like the idea of going to bed forgiving someone >every night. Hard Question: Do you forgive yourself?
I have nothing to forgive myself for. This was out of my control. And in another interpretation of the question: Yes. I do. I include myself in the prayer, for sometimes I make myself angry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Thanks for the heads up on Hindu pantheon – I will have to take a closer >look at that. As I was reading about your search for deieties that deal >with trauma, I wondered if you would find it helpful to cast your net wider. >I have been working with the Goddess Oracle deck, and decided to draw a card >every day and journal on it. Last night’s card was Nut, Egyptian Goddess of >the Night Sky, of Mystery. I journaled about letting go, giving up control, >why the unknown frightens me so much. I have much to learn about various >deities and mythology, and got this deck thinking that it was a good way to >do some very basic exploration. Didn’t realize it was a means of comfort >too.
I have worked with the Egyptian Pantheon, and while Nut is a good, Nephthys, Goddess of Dreams is better for working problems. Most of the religions had a bug about ‘defect’ Notice what happened to Haphaestus, God of Smithing – cast out of Olympus for his defect: a club foot. The other thing I look to is the medeaeval fool – deliberately deformed by his or her parents in order to secure a living and usually highly educated. of course, the fool had to put up with a good deal of psychic abuse. Read Poe’s ‘Hopfrog’. The up side to all of this is that it forces me to DO. A couple of books you may be interesed in are: _The Shaman’s Body_ by Arnold Mindell and _Creative dreaming_ by Patricia Garfield,Ph.D. >blessings, >Renee
and to you. DayaLi day…@bigfoot.com An Open and Critical Mind – THE antidote to Dogma Poisoning =============================================================== Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II,
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