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This should have been posted to some other NG. It doesn’t belong here anymore than information about what another member is doing in other NG’s belongs here. This is about PTSD and as far as I can tell, the story that was related has not one little thing to do with the purpose of the NG. Please desist. Risa Trouble is usually produced by those who produce nothing else.
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Bonnie wrote: >I am the one that this was done to and I will say this it was very >wrong.. Yet Luanne was played upon my real sickos out here… day and >night she was worked on and convinced that my children were in grave >danger.
And you Bonnie, have just been used by Luanne to further her own cause and keep a mess going in this ng. Please take it elsewhere. Holly
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Luanne wrote: >One in particular on there, Steph….she >makes fun of you when you talk in third person.
Another one of those little ironies… Risa Trouble is usually produced by those who produce nothing else.
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I am the one that this was done to and I will say this it was very wrong.. Yet Luanne was played upon my real sickos out here… day and night she was worked on and convinced that my children were in grave danger.. This was someone elses personal vendetta against me… I know they played upon the fact that Luanne can get swept away and I have often said to the real culprits that Luanne was simply the gun that they aimed at my head.. but they pulled the trigger… Luanne confessed to doing this and all charges with CPS were esponged from the record.. I am not saying all of this was ok… all I am saying is it is my firm belief that when Luanne did this she really felt there was danger for my kids and never once thought she was just being used to get me offline..it wasnt an act of malace and when she became aware that she was played she did the right thing and also bravely confessed to the adoption community ( which we are both active in) what she had done… I think everyone needs to lay off of her and if you are going to tell a story at least know what the hell you are talking about…. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ BONNI 5/19/66 (-: Owner ~HOT~ Heart Of Triad , Healing Angels, Ethics in Search, Our Guests, The Triangle and State Mailing Lists ~HOT~ Page INFO ON IT ALL (-: http://members.visi.net/~ravenn/ Add search info in the guestbook! HAVE YOU REGISTERED WITH THE ISRR? Go to my page… ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Is someone looking for you? Search by keyword ie: DOB, Name etc..here to find out!! (-: Http://onelist.com/archives/OUR_GUESTS Want to add your name to a registry for hospitals where you are searching? Go here and put in the state town or county.. http://onelist.com/archives/HOSPITALREGISTRIES
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Luanne, what this person I don’t know says about me doesn’t phase me. I don’t want to hear any story Luanne. I know the problems I was afflicted with when we danced and I don’t want to dance anymore with a person who consistently tries to get her feet planted on mine. You have a need to be on top rather than in partnership don’t like dancing that way. Scott now, seems to like doing the antagonistic wild thing. If you really need to vent, you can go dance the dance of anger with Scott. I’m backing off the dance floor and soaking my feet till you learn to dance keeping your feet on your side of the line. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >Not nearly as hate filled cruel and abusive as a story I heard of some poor > >woman > >having had a child protection agency contact her. Courtesy of none other than > >our > >Saintly Luanne > Stephanie….you’re not getting the whole story on this one. I will have that > gal post. She is a dear friend of mine. I would like for you to hear the whole > story on this one. > If you guys can believe this – Stephanie is an absolute saint compared to some > of those pro-searchers on the list. One in particular on there, Steph….she > makes fun of you when you talk in third person. I personally don’t find it > funny because I do feel that you have some problems, but I don’t think that you > are ready to be honest and share them with this group. > I will have Bonni share this story with you. > Best, > Luanne
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>Not nearly as hate filled cruel and abusive as a story I heard of some poor >woman >having had a child protection agency contact her. Courtesy of none other than >our >Saintly Luanne
Stephanie….you’re not getting the whole story on this one. I will have that gal post. She is a dear friend of mine. I would like for you to hear the whole story on this one. If you guys can believe this – Stephanie is an absolute saint compared to some of those pro-searchers on the list. One in particular on there, Steph….she makes fun of you when you talk in third person. I personally don’t find it funny because I do feel that you have some problems, but I don’t think that you are ready to be honest and share them with this group. I will have Bonni share this story with you. Best, Luanne
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Hmmmm….mmmmmm….mmmmmmmmm. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > willow, > If you are going to cut and paste, thereby taking things out of > context, then please don’t message me. Nothing has changed….just a > couple of people here would like you to think so. Maybe if we’d have > some on-topic posts, you’d see my responses. > Later, Scott > Mab wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Scott C. <… > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > certain people here. It’s BS… "Gee Steph…I agree….that was > > > really insightful…" Makes me want to barf…. > > > Later, Scott > > This is not the strong positive supportive Scott that I have seen posting here. > > This is someone else. > > willow
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Scott, take your stinger and go plant it where it would do the most good. Stop flying around Tim nose and stay away from my face. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Yes Tim…you were among the people to whom I was referring. You > take the time to flame me, yet to date you have never responded to one > of my other posts….why ?? I have agreed with you, complimented you > and made some funnies along with you…yet you ignore. But for some > reason, you do not ignore Stephanie….not at all. I find this both > odd and inciting…. You do not hesitate to nail me for failing to > ignore trolls, yet you don’t follow your own advice. > So the hate list isn’t your business ?? Geez…you must make quite > the friend and ally… > Later, Scott > Tim wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Scott C. wrote in message <37C30C75.7…@usa.com>… > > >x-no-archive: yes > > > I’m sick of the gallery around here sniping at just a few of us…wake > > >up already. I get slammed for bringing up the past…well, how about > > >the present ?? The same person who is actively promoting a hate list > > >and who has flamed this group daily, also gets encouragement from > > >certain people here. It’s BS… "Gee Steph…I agree….that was > > >really insightful…" Makes me want to barf… > > I would imagine that you’re referring to me in the above. > > When someone says something in reply to something I’ve posted, and if what > > the person says makes sense to me, I will thank the person for posting the > > reply. I really don’t care if the person is so-and-so’s bitter enemy or > > not. > > It seems to me that you didn’t like me commenting to Stephanie about how I > > liked the way her post was worded. This was specifically in reference to > > another thread in which I’d taken her to task for "telling" people what to > > do. I found that her reply to my response was done in a different tone, and > > I commented that I’d noticed it. Simple as that. > > If people here want to participate in some sort of "hate list," that’s their > > business. It’s their own way to hinder the progress they could otherwise be > > making, but it’s on them, not me. I’ll take support from Stephanie or > > Luanne or anyone who can identify with the things I express. And if > > Stephanie and Luanne don’t like each other and want to do things to one > > another, that again is on them. I’ll have no part of it. I’m here for > > support. > > -t-
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Scott, you just keep circling around your own manure pile. Also get out of peoples faces. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Nope willow….that couldn’t be further from the truth. I’ve been > here a long time and don’t dominate anything. I do however stick up for > my friends and fight abuse….that’s it. > Later, Scott > Mab wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Scott, I think you are trying to dominate this ng. > > willow
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Scott, You’re flying around your own shit now. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > The feeling is mutual Tim. You are either blind or a liar, as there > have been many such posts….in fact I asked you about this weeks ago > and you made some silly excuse about being busy or something. Don’t > compare me with Stephanie you naive newbie….and go run your anal > retentive rhetoric on someone else…someone a hell of alot more naive > than me. > Later, > Scott > Tim wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Scott C. wrote in message <37C32BA6….@usa.com>… > > >x-no-archive: yes > > > Yes Tim…you were among the people to whom I was referring. You > > >take the time to flame me, yet to date you have never responded to one > > >of my other posts….why ?? I have agreed with you, complimented you > > >and made some funnies along with you…yet you ignore. > > I have not seen a SINGLE support-related post made from you to me. Not one. > > >But for some > > >reason, you do not ignore Stephanie….not at all. I find this both > > >odd and inciting…. You do not hesitate to nail me for failing to > > >ignore trolls, yet you don’t follow your own advice. > > I only advise you to ignore Stephanie because she sets you off so much, and > > you can’t seem to help but throw the volleys back at her. > > When Stephanie (or Luanne or anyone, for that matter) posts support-related > > posts, and the posts say something to me, I comment on them. There’s no > > harm in doing that. In fact, that’s how a support newsgroup is supposed to > > work. > > If you start posting support-related posts, and I find that they say > > something to me, I’ll comment as I see fit. So far, in the last weeks, I > > haven’t seen anything that resembles support coming from you that’s been > > directed at me. All I’ve seen is backhanded comments about trolls. I > > welcome you to prove me wrong. > > > So the hate list isn’t your business ?? Geez…you must make quite > > >the friend and ally… > > I’m here first and foremost to further my own recovery. If you or Stephanie > > are upset that I’m not taking your sides in this flame war, then I can’t > > help that. If you and Stephanie want to keep flinging crap at each other, > > fine. Go ahead and do it. But you’re both wrong to be doing it in public. > > Neither you nor Stephanie have shown me anything worth supporting. > > -t-
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….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? ….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed they believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? ….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most have no interest in it? ….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the immature instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? Holly
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>> ….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide >> little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? > I doubt that much of it does.
I disagree. I think those comments feed right into their little plans. I think they’re looking for them. >My >opinion is that it’s an abuse thing…they see this group as having >potential victims.
I’m not so sure… True, they could see victims here to abuse. But I think they just get a huge kick out of the reactions they’re getting from a few folks around here. >> ….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed they >> believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? > There is absolutely no truth to this….it is pure abuse.
And my point in asking the question is this: IF what they were saying was true and IF they truly cared, the authorities would have been immediately notified to get help where help is needed. It wouldn’t have been posted to a ng. What they did was hate-filled, cruel, and abusive. >> ….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most >> have no interest in it? > Ummm….I don’t trust this psycho’s with my address..
Good point. It appears attention is desired above all else. >> ….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the >immature >> instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? > You have to ask the abusers that question.
The question is to everyone; not just to those you perceive as undesireables. We all have a responsibility here. > I will say one thing on >this…..PLEASE stop chatting with them……we need to be 100% on this. >Making nicey-nice does nothing to change their behavior.
Unless this ng becomes moderated in a hurry, you will not dictate to me who I will or will not respond to here. I’m sorry but I will no go against my beliefs for you or anyone else. > If Lu, and >others including me, can ignore the filth….than can others please stop >exchanging posts with them ??
I’d like to see you ignore those you refer to by that description. You have not ignored anyone and the digs in your posts prove it. You’re fooling no one. I will not support those who posted that crap this morning. I will not support Stephanie’s actions that followed. And I will not support your attempt to control who I respond to or anyone’s baiting of others. I do not support bad behavior. Sorry. But I will support courageous posts, posts of encouragement and support, humorouos posts, challenging questions, and even some confrontational posts. Holly
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Problem with you Scott is you create the filth. You can’t keep your wide mouth mason jar shut because you thrive on irritating people. No matter how long people try to ignore the irritating little mosquito you, you just keep flying around and buzzing into peoples ears until someone finally someone has to take a swat at you to shut you up for another 5 minuets. . Swat. Take that you insignificant little annoying insect. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Holly, > Some good points…not sure all have answers…. > H.K. wrote: > > ….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide > > little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? > I doubt that much of it does. Trolls are a fact of life in > ng’s…this one just seems to attract them a little more regularly. My > opinion is that it’s an abuse thing…they see this group as having > potential victims. The saddest thing is that they take personal issues > and things people have shared and use it against them in a cruel way. > > ….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed they > > believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? > There is absolutely no truth to this….it is pure abuse. These > losers have been flooding alt.adoption with the same messages. Several > of us talk on a daily basis….Luanne is fine. > > ….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most > > have no interest in it? > Ummm….I don’t trust this psycho’s with my address…I learned from > being e-mail bombed. Our experience has been that these individuals > have no desire to take it private…none whatsoever. > > ….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the immature > > instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? > > Holly > You have to ask the abusers that question. I will say one thing on > this…..PLEASE stop chatting with them……we need to be 100% on this. > Making nicey-nice does nothing to change their behavior. If Lu, and > others including me, can ignore the filth….than can others please stop > exchanging posts with them ?? > Take care, Scott
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Not nearly as hate filled cruel and abusive as a story I heard of some poor woman having had a child protection agency contact her. Courtesy of none other than our Saintly Luanne who decided this woman needed more stress in her life. How ugly and spiteful. And that’s only a small part of what our Luanne is reported to have done to people. It’s no wonder no one wants anything to do with her. Anyone who is that insensitive to play with peoples lives and children’s mothers, has no empathy or feelings. To Luanne it’s just a game of chess. A Sociopathic kind of fun thing to do. Well this is not a newsgroup for Sociopaths. No one here walks in with "Mark" on their forehead waiting for Luannes hate experience. Who walks in here looking for the child protection agency to come knocking on their door because someone in this newsgroups is cruel enough to put in a bogus vengeful complaint into child protection. Kind of like Scott writing a well placed email to Roger boss at work hoping what? that Roger will get fired ? Scott and Luanne are full of hate and are taking it out on people in this group and in alt adoption as far as I can read. It’s a game Holly. they have nothing better to do than to collect pogey and sit on their computer asses all day creating mischef for good well meaning people. Like the 300 complaint posts my isp provider received courtesy of Scott and Luanne. It took them some time and valuable job hours lost before they could smell the rat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"H.K." wrote: > >> ….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide > >> little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? > > I doubt that much of it does. > I disagree. I think those comments feed right into their little plans. I > think they’re looking for them. > >My > >opinion is that it’s an abuse thing…they see this group as having > >potential victims. > I’m not so sure… True, they could see victims here to abuse. But I think > they just get a huge kick out of the reactions they’re getting from a few folks > around here. > >> ….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed > they > >> believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? > > There is absolutely no truth to this….it is pure abuse. > And my point in asking the question is this: IF what they were saying was true > and IF they truly cared, the authorities would have been immediately notified > to get help where help is needed. It wouldn’t have been posted to a ng. What > they did was hate-filled, cruel, and abusive. > >> ….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most > >> have no interest in it? > > Ummm….I don’t trust this psycho’s with my address.. > Good point. It appears attention is desired above all else. > >> ….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the > >immature > >> instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? > > You have to ask the abusers that question. > The question is to everyone; not just to those you perceive as undesireables. > We all have a responsibility here. > > I will say one thing on > >this…..PLEASE stop chatting with them……we need to be 100% on this. > >Making nicey-nice does nothing to change their behavior. > Unless this ng becomes moderated in a hurry, you will not dictate to me who I > will or will not respond to here. I’m sorry but I will no go against my > beliefs for you or anyone else. > > If Lu, and > >others including me, can ignore the filth….than can others please stop > >exchanging posts with them ?? > I’d like to see you ignore those you refer to by that description. You have > not ignored anyone and the digs in your posts prove it. You’re fooling no one. > I will not support those who posted that crap this morning. I will not support > Stephanie’s actions that followed. And I will not support your attempt to > control who I respond to or anyone’s baiting of others. I do not support bad > behavior. Sorry. > But I will support courageous posts, posts of encouragement and support, > humorouos posts, challenging questions, and even some confrontational posts. > Holly
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OK…… Go barf Scott. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Oh I see Holly….you asked the questions but you had already > pre-determined the answers ?? Look….those who play footsie with the > trolls are no better or worse than those who flame them. Don’t ask > questions if you don’t want to hear a response contrary to your opinion. > I’m sick of the gallery around here sniping at just a few of us…wake > up already. I get slammed for bringing up the past…well, how about > the present ?? The same person who is actively promoting a hate list > and who has flamed this group daily, also gets encouragement from > certain people here. It’s BS… "Gee Steph…I agree….that was > really insightful…" Makes me want to barf…. > Later, Scott > H.K. wrote: > > >> ….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide > > >> little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? > > > I doubt that much of it does. > > I disagree. I think those comments feed right into their little plans. I > > think they’re looking for them. > > >My > > >opinion is that it’s an abuse thing…they see this group as having > > >potential victims. > > I’m not so sure… True, they could see victims here to abuse. But I think > > they just get a huge kick out of the reactions they’re getting from a few folks > > around here. > > >> ….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed > > they > > >> believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? > > > There is absolutely no truth to this….it is pure abuse. > > And my point in asking the question is this: IF what they were saying was true > > and IF they truly cared, the authorities would have been immediately notified > > to get help where help is needed. It wouldn’t have been posted to a ng. What > > they did was hate-filled, cruel, and abusive. > > >> ….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most > > >> have no interest in it? > > > Ummm….I don’t trust this psycho’s with my address.. > > Good point. It appears attention is desired above all else. > > >> ….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the > > >immature > > >> instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? > > > You have to ask the abusers that question. > > The question is to everyone; not just to those you perceive as undesireables. > > We all have a responsibility here. > > > I will say one thing on > > >this…..PLEASE stop chatting with them……we need to be 100% on this. > > >Making nicey-nice does nothing to change their behavior. > > Unless this ng becomes moderated in a hurry, you will not dictate to me who I > > will or will not respond to here. I’m sorry but I will no go against my > > beliefs for you or anyone else. > > > If Lu, and > > >others including me, can ignore the filth….than can others please stop > > >exchanging posts with them ?? > > I’d like to see you ignore those you refer to by that description. You have > > not ignored anyone and the digs in your posts prove it. You’re fooling no one. > > I will not support those who posted that crap this morning. I will not support > > Stephanie’s actions that followed. And I will not support your attempt to > > control who I respond to or anyone’s baiting of others. I do not support bad > > behavior. Sorry. > > But I will support courageous posts, posts of encouragement and support, > > humorouos posts, challenging questions, and even some confrontational posts. > > Holly
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Scott you whiner, get away from Tims face. Swat. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Tim, > You responded to some of the inappropriate posts today and I concur > with what you said. I don’t agree with all of the content of this last > post…you need to put the blame where it belongs. The troll flames me > daily, Luanne is the victim of the hate list, others get abused here on > a regular basis….it goes on and on. It’s time to stop blaming > others….nobody who belongs here wants this to continue….nobody asked > certain people to intrude here…it happened and it isn’t going away as > quickly as we hoped. I find your post to be as "murky" as what you > allege in others. > I hope you don’t leave, but that is your choice. I think that things > are looking better and hope that this trend continues. > Take care, Scott > Tim wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > H.K. wrote in message <… > > >….how much of the garbage floating thru here comes as a result of snide > > >little remarks made in posts targeting certain people? > > >….why someone hasn’t phoned the authorities where Lu lives if indeed they > > >believe she is in trouble instead of posting about it here? > > >….why this mud-slinging can’t be done in email instead of here where most > > >have no interest in it? > > >….how much longer we will be controlled by the shenannigans of the > > immature > > >instead of getting this ng back to being a place of support? > > I wonder too, Holly. > > I must confess that I’m growing near the end of my patience with this > > newsgroup. I am not doing very well emotionally today, and the newsgroup is > > not helping one bit. The last thing I need right now is to be triggered. > > The healthy thing for me to do is to probably unsubscribe from this > > newsgroup. I’ve met a few good friends here…very few. Perhaps that was > > my reason to come here in the first place: to find a few people here who > > could help me on my own journey. > > The ones who are doing all this…they have their own agendas and seem to > > enjoy the battle scars. No matter what, and no matter how low they choose > > to go, their goal is to win at any cost. > > I don’t need to win. I just need to get healthy. > > I really don’t know what it is they hope to accomplish with all this, other > > than to inflict pain so they aren’t alone in their own misery. If only they > > could see that what they’re doing is more than hurting other people. It’s > > preventing them from any measure of healing. Perhaps they have no > > investment in healing. It surely doesn’t seem like it. > > I want more for my life. I don’t want my life to revolve around a > > newsgroup, with its treacheries and murky plots. Most of all, I need to > > surround myself with safe people, not with people who seem so damaged that > > they cannot exist without taking someone else down with them. > > I don’t have any answers. I have only sadness. > > Peace be with all of you… > > -t- > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply: Remove .nospam from the above. Scott C. @–>–>—
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