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Damn I like news groups. I woke up today feeling really down compared to yesterday (not an abnormal cycle for me). I wasn’t even sure I could post a response to anyone here. Then I read a post by an idiot and I let some anger out. While showing anger is still not an ok thing for me, childhood training that I took into Vietnam with me, letting it out in written form is less not ok than the physical end of the scale. Now at some point I will kick myself for letting the anger out, but that’s better than feeling suicidal. This may not make sense to the "normal" people who get their kicks reading this ng, but learning how to cope is part of living with PTSD. BTW, In the past I have gone looking for news groups where I could find some idiot to blow up at (not that hard to do). Don’t do that anymore, why mess with someone else’s ng. Still it was better than taking the anger out on the road. How I managed not to hurt anyone (that I’m aware of) or end up in jail is still a mystery to me. Larry L.
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I guess I’m the type that ignores normal stupid or points them in the right direction. If I encounter really stupid I tell them why and then how to jump off the boat, preferably as quickly as possible, without using profanity. Having been in the service I know how the curse with the best of them, in several languages to boot, but that was then and now I have found that I can get my meaning across using a much broader vocabulary. If all else fails I invite them to a dark alley somewhere. No one has taken me up on that yet, more’s the pity. Larry L. "kajira hill" <b…@antisocial.com> wrote in message
news:va9emtgtv1hqo410ar11q4302faqphm4va@4ax.com… > Okay, Larry. Which kind of Flame Warrior are you? *chuckle* > — > kajira hill, July 31, 2001 -= b…@antisocial.com =-
*************************************************************************** > The ready availability of suicide, like sex and alcohol, is one of life’s
basic consolations.
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"Lawrence Lusk" <lelvn…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:tme8nsk4rqaff5@corp.supernews.com… > Damn I like news groups. I woke up today feeling really down compared to > yesterday (not an abnormal cycle for me). I wasn’t even sure I could post a > response to anyone here. Then I read a post by an idiot and I let some anger > out. While showing anger is still not an ok thing for me, childhood training > that I took into Vietnam with me, letting it out in written form is less not > ok than the physical end of the scale. Now at some point I will kick myself > for letting the anger out, but that’s better than feeling suicidal. This may > not make sense to the "normal" people who get their kicks reading this ng, > but learning how to cope is part of living with PTSD.
I know exactly what you mean Larry. Sometimes I just blow up on a ng, let it all hang out, but I feel a lot better afterwards. It’s okay to let your anger out this way, as you said it’s not hurting anybody physically. And I try to choose things that are beneficial to others. There’s so much injustice in this world that it’s not hard to find issues to blow off steam at. I’m especially good when I’m fighting for an underdog of some sort. My therapist says it’s because I always felt like no body stuck up for me or helped me, so when I see someone getting the shaft all my pent up hostilities come raging to the surface. My daughters are pretty much like that too. They don’t have the pent up rage that I do, but I guess my values rubbed off on them from an early age. If they see anybody picking on someone they step right in there. My middle daughter nearly came to blows with some guy at McDonalds. She said she saw this homeless guy who had gotten enough money to buy some food. It was lunch time, lines were long, so she was able to observe what was going on. She said some asshole was picking on this guy, taking his food right off his tray, so she left her spot in line, went over there and loudly demanded to know "what was going on?" She asked the homeless guy if he knew this other guy who was taking his food. He said "No" so she told the other guy to back off and leave him alone, not quite that nicely. 
She said the aggressor started to step towards her so she took off her huge wooden platform shoe and held it up as a weapon and yelled at some construction guys sitting at a neighboring table to get over here and give her a hand! She’s very fortunate to be a tall, striking blond. She said the construction guys came to her aid, the manager showed up to see what was going on, and Kim told him to get this poor man some new food and keep a better eye on what’s going on in his place of business. She also got a free lunch out of it from the manager. But that wasn’t her objective. She’s tough as nails when it comes to people being picked on. I warned her about starting something like that, but she said, "don’t worry mom, I checked the place out first, saw all those construction guys, and knew I’d be okay!" So see, it’s okay to let that anger out some, maybe try to direct it towards stuff like that and maybe it’ll sort of be like a release valve??? Don’t know for sure, but maybe it might help?? What do you think?? tiny dancer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BTW, In the past I have gone looking for news groups where I could find some > idiot to blow up at (not that hard to do). Don’t do that anymore, why mess > with someone else’s ng. Still it was better than taking the anger out on the > road. How I managed not to hurt anyone (that I’m aware of) or end up in jail > is still a mystery to me. > Larry L.
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LOL! Yep, that’s exactly what I was thinking reading this too Kajira. I was there today, just laughing my ass off. I’ve decided I’m a combination of "jekyll & hyde, "rottweiler pup," and "bong." Now Larry, ‘fess up–what type are YOU?!!! : ) kat "kajira hill" <b…@antisocial.com> wrote in message
news:va9emtgtv1hqo410ar11q4302faqphm4va@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:28:16 -0700, it was written by Lawrence Lusk: > =Damn I like news groups. I woke up today feeling really down compared to > =yesterday (not an abnormal cycle for me). I wasn’t even sure I could post a > =response to anyone here. Then I read a post by an idiot and I let some anger > =out. While showing anger is still not an ok thing for me, childhood training > =that I took into Vietnam with me, letting it out in written form is less not > =ok than the physical end of the scale. Now at some point I will kick myself > =for letting the anger out, but that’s better than feeling suicidal. This may > =not make sense to the "normal" people who get their kicks reading this ng, > =but learning how to cope is part of living with PTSD. > = > =BTW, In the past I have gone looking for news groups where I could find some > =idiot to blow up at (not that hard to do). Don’t do that anymore, why mess > =with someone else’s ng. Still it was better than taking the anger out on the > =road. How I managed not to hurt anyone (that I’m aware of) or end up in jail > =is still a mystery to me. > = > =Larry L. > Okay, Larry. Which kind of Flame Warrior are you? *chuckle* > — > kajira hill, July 31, 2001 -= b…@antisocial.com =-
*************************************************************************** > The ready availability of suicide, like sex and alcohol, is one of life’s
basic consolations.
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Larry, Whatever it takes, to keep you from turning that rage inwards and getting suicidal? Go for it. Hurting someone’s feelings is a lot better than offing yourself. Or letting it build up til it becomes a ticking time bomb, waiting to blow up at the next unsuspecting person. Actually, maybe it’s kind of healthy in a strange way, because at least in cyberworld, if that helps give you the opportunity to express your anger, when under normal circumstances, you don’t feel you have "permission" to be angry, to LET it out. Then it’s a release, sort of like the release valve on a pressure cooker. You know what happens to those if they don’t get the steam out. kat "Lawrence Lusk" <lelvn…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:tme8nsk4rqaff5@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Damn I like news groups. I woke up today feeling really down compared to > yesterday (not an abnormal cycle for me). I wasn’t even sure I could post a > response to anyone here. Then I read a post by an idiot and I let some anger > out. While showing anger is still not an ok thing for me, childhood training > that I took into Vietnam with me, letting it out in written form is less not > ok than the physical end of the scale. Now at some point I will kick myself > for letting the anger out, but that’s better than feeling suicidal. This may > not make sense to the "normal" people who get their kicks reading this ng, > but learning how to cope is part of living with PTSD. > BTW, In the past I have gone looking for news groups where I could find some > idiot to blow up at (not that hard to do). Don’t do that anymore, why mess > with someone else’s ng. Still it was better than taking the anger out on the > road. How I managed not to hurt anyone (that I’m aware of) or end up in jail > is still a mystery to me. > Larry L.
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Ok, ok, you made me go back to that silly site. I guess Kung-Fu Master would fit. If I get off my butt and back to working out and finish up getting my black belt it might fit even better. Until then a pipe or a brick works just fine (save the heavy fire power for the real bad guys, not the Usenet geeks). Larry L. "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9k7gg8$4552$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL! Yep, that’s exactly what I was thinking reading this too Kajira. I > was there today, just laughing my ass off. > I’ve decided I’m a combination of "jekyll & hyde, "rottweiler pup," and > "bong." > Now Larry, ‘fess up–what type are YOU?!!! > : ) > kat
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In that you are right on the money Kat and td. I still try to be careful even when "letting off steam" on a ng. Sometimes people say things in a way they didn’t mean to or just out of ignorance. Blowing up at them may be somewhat justifiable but words can hurt too. Sometimes more than physical blows. That’s why if someone tells me I read it wrong I will always say I’m sorry and read what that person writes more carefully next time. Sometimes my meds don’t work the way I expect them to and I type, say or do something out of reaction before I can stop what I’m doing. At least now with the clonazepam I take I can stay in control most of the time and when the anger breaks through pull it back before too much damage is done. In the past before I started taking the benzos (b.b. before benzos) the rage would take over and I would go into a dissociate state, watching myself do things and not being able to stop it. It was like being strapped into the back seat of a car with a maniac at the wheel. A reaction that made sense in combat but not on the freeway. Larry L. "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9k7iui$3j86$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Larry, > Whatever it takes, to keep you from turning that rage inwards and getting > suicidal? Go for it. Hurting someone’s feelings is a lot better than > offing yourself. Or letting it build up til it becomes a ticking time bomb, > waiting to blow up at the next unsuspecting person. > Actually, maybe it’s kind of healthy in a strange way, because at least in > cyberworld, if that helps give you the opportunity to express your anger, > when under normal circumstances, you don’t feel you have "permission" to be > angry, to LET it out. Then it’s a release, sort of like the release valve > on a pressure cooker. You know what happens to those if they don’t get the > steam out. > kat
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Larry, I know what you mean. I try to be careful too, but I’ve flamed a couple times myself. Sometimes, it just sort of "happens". LOL! Sometimes the only thing you can do is just apologize, if you didn’t mean it, or leave the group if you did mean it, you know? kat "Lawrence Lusk" <lelvn…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:tmenk5ikicdkfa@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In that you are right on the money Kat and td. I still try to be careful > even when "letting off steam" on a ng. Sometimes people say things in a way > they didn’t mean to or just out of ignorance. Blowing up at them may be > somewhat justifiable but words can hurt too. Sometimes more than physical > blows. That’s why if someone tells me I read it wrong I will always say I’m > sorry and read what that person writes more carefully next time. > Sometimes my meds don’t work the way I expect them to and I type, say or do > something out of reaction before I can stop what I’m doing. At least now > with the clonazepam I take I can stay in control most of the time and when > the anger breaks through pull it back before too much damage is done. In the > past before I started taking the benzos (b.b. before benzos) the rage would > take over and I would go into a dissociate state, watching myself do things > and not being able to stop it. It was like being strapped into the back seat > of a car with a maniac at the wheel. A reaction that made sense in combat > but not on the freeway. > Larry L. > "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:9k7iui$3j86$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… > > Larry, > > Whatever it takes, to keep you from turning that rage inwards and getting > > suicidal? Go for it. Hurting someone’s feelings is a lot better than > > offing yourself. Or letting it build up til it becomes a ticking time > bomb, > > waiting to blow up at the next unsuspecting person. > > Actually, maybe it’s kind of healthy in a strange way, because at least in > > cyberworld, if that helps give you the opportunity to express your anger, > > when under normal circumstances, you don’t feel you have "permission" to > be > > angry, to LET it out. Then it’s a release, sort of like the release valve > > on a pressure cooker. You know what happens to those if they don’t get > the > > steam out. > > kat
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hehehe, I like this game I play, iSketch.net I can go on there and be an asshole and win all the time in the meanwhile. Sure it pisses off some pussies but fuck em. Most of the times I’m a sweetie and enjoy playing and seeing my "friends" there, but when I get on a roll, oh man…. I had to laugh whent the other night (after considering how much I could get on the black market for a know-it-all 9 year-old I’ve got holed up here at my house) I was in fine form and being a real bitch. When I said okay, the bitch is leaving, a few of them said No! don’t go! you are too damned funny! LOL, when I get mad I’m pretty sharp with my tongue and find people’s spots with an amazing accuracy. I think I’ll play a little tonight <evil grin>
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Hey Lar, don’t you just LOVE clonazepam??? It was my wonder drug when I started it and still is a great relief. Kristine If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Without question it has saved my life. But if I had my druthers, I’d go back or supplement it with pot. But I promised the VA that I wouldn’t so I haven’t. Clonazepam has one big draw back though, it’s an outside possibility but you could die as a result of a seizure if you withdrew cold turkey. I’ve taken it long enough and at a high enough dose for that to be a possibility though a remote one. Larry L. "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010801003352.28964.00003787@ng-ch1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Lar, don’t you just LOVE clonazepam??? It was my wonder drug when I started > it and still is a great relief. > Kristine > If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they > become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to > become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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OMG, NO, NO. Is it superwoman, is it spiderman? No, it’s……it’s…… JEKYLL & HYDE!!!! *kat runs out of the room, shrieking in terror* kat "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010801003243.28964.00003786@ng-ch1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hehehe, I like this game I play, iSketch.net > I can go on there and be an asshole and win all the time in the meanwhile. Sure > it pisses off some pussies but fuck em. Most of the times I’m a sweetie and > enjoy playing and seeing my "friends" there, but when I get on a roll, oh > man…. I had to laugh whent the other night (after considering how much I > could get on the black market for a know-it-all 9 year-old I’ve got holed up > here at my house) I was in fine form and being a real bitch. When I said okay, > the bitch is leaving, a few of them said No! don’t go! you are too damned > funny! LOL, when I get mad I’m pretty sharp with my tongue and find people’s > spots with an amazing accuracy. I think I’ll play a little tonight <evil
grin>
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>OMG, NO, NO. Is it superwoman, is it spiderman? No, it’s……it’s…..
JEKYLL & HYDE!!!! *kat runs out of the room, shrieking in terror*> Hrmph, don’t say I didn’t warn ya! In case you missed it, I figured I WAS the Jekyll and Hyde flamer! LOL
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Kris, I didn’t miss it. When you said you pissed some pussies off, but fuck ‘em? I just couldn’t resist!!! *grinning* Myself, I’m a combo flamer, sort of "rott pup, bong, diplomat and J & H, all depending on the mood, of course. Couple times I was rather well, in an unnatural state of mind, shall we say, and went back to read some of my posts. It was like, holy shit, what the HELL am I talking about here!! *laughing* My J & H hasn’t reared its ugly little head for a while though. Fortunately! I’m just an absolute rip-roaring asshole when I’m in THAT mode, takes me a while to get there, but once I do? Not a pretty sight at all…..At least you maintain your sense of humor, eh? *smiling* kat "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010801022147.29030.00003721@ng-ch1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >OMG, NO, NO. Is it superwoman, is it spiderman? No, it’s……it’s….. > JEKYLL & HYDE!!!! *kat runs out of the room, shrieking in terror*> > Hrmph, don’t say I didn’t warn ya! In case you missed it, I figured I WAS the > Jekyll and Hyde flamer! LOL
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Yes Kajira, its also called Klonopin and its in the category of anti-seizure meds but has been found very effective for anxiety. Its got a 7-10 time to build up to effective levels in the blood and a regular does is anywhere from 1 to 4 mg. per day =) Kristine If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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