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hi, Deb. welcome. :-) lots and lots. breaking in a new one hurts too. it’s frustrating, especially if one needs help *now*! finding one competent is harder. finding one who’s *intelligent* is harder yet. sorry you have to go through this. it doesn’t sound fair or ethical. if it helps any, this group is great (imho 
). There’s lotsa nice ppl here who are happy to answer questions, offer support, say "ugh – yeah, I get that, too…", and will appreciate you for any help you’re able to offer in return. it’s a great place. feel free to write here as much (or as little) as you like. i’ve certainly written reams and reams worth, and never been yelled at once for writing too much. :) i wish you well. *warm friendly thoughts* jt
Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years. I think she dumped me over a money issue. I am disabled and on medicare. I could not afford her $120/hr fee. Medicare stopped paying her because she filed inaccuarately and she got frustrated she wasn’t getting her money. I was paying her $25/hr. Medicare has now paid her but I am gone. I think she wanted me gone as well. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about
therapists, especially – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
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I was about to sign off when I saw your subject line. Having read your dilema, I do want to say that I empathize with you. I cannot imagine losing a t after that long. Please, stay safe Deb. If you get too overwhelmed, come here and vent, vent, vent. We might not have solutions, but we have this place to ‘be’ when times like this come along. I don’t blame you for feeling cynical. If you haven’t, please form some type of (real life) support system for yourself to fall back on in distressing hours (which are sure to follow). This is a *very* hard thing you’re going thru, one of the hardest for many mltpls. I’m not here (asd) on a real steady basis but there’s good ppl here who will at least listen. Okay? You’ve survived much worse, by what you’ve said. You *can* survive this. Even when it might not feel that way at times. One day at a time Deb. Okay? Sad for you, Dayzie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years. I think she dumped me over a money issue. I am disabled and on medicare. I could not afford her $120/hr fee. Medicare stopped paying her because she filed inaccuarately and she got frustrated she wasn’t getting her money. I was paying her $25/hr. Medicare has now paid her but I am gone. I think she wanted me gone as well. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about therapists, especially Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
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Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years. I think she dumped me over a money issue. I am disabled and on medicare. I could not afford her $120/hr fee. Medicare stopped paying her because she filed inaccuarately and she got frustrated she wasn’t getting her money. I was paying her $25/hr. Medicare has now paid her but I am gone. I think she wanted me gone as well. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about therapists, especially Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
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I’m sorry deb. I wish – everything. I wish things were fair, that people who need help can get it, that people who were hurt not be hurt again, that people who are supposed to be helping don’t hurt more, that not having money feels bad enough without it leading to more things that feel bad. I have all those things, too. The ones you said. I hope you find comfort, hope, and help – Beauty. — To email me, remove "nospam" from my address. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years. I think she dumped me over a money issue. I am disabled and on medicare. I could not afford her $120/hr fee. Medicare stopped paying her because she filed inaccuarately and she got frustrated she wasn’t getting her money. I was paying her $25/hr. Medicare has now paid her but I am gone. I think she wanted me gone as well. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about therapists, especially Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
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Thanks Dayzie. I begin a support group here in town tomorrow night. I’m hoping it will take some of the sting out of the therapeutic loss. It’s for battered women and survivors of sexual abuse. My new therapist isn’t really new – he’s someone I’ve seen before. Dissociation is not his specialty but right now all I need is a way through the pain. I’ll be looking for another therapist sometime after I begin seeing him. That’s the reality. The feelings are indescribable. Thank you for your support. Debbie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was about to sign off when I saw your subject line. Having read your dilema, I do want to say that I empathize with you. I cannot imagine losing a t after that long. Please, stay safe Deb. If you get too overwhelmed, come here and vent, vent, vent. We might not have solutions, but we have this place to ‘be’ when times like this come along. I don’t blame you for feeling cynical. If you haven’t, please form some type of (real life) support system for yourself to fall back on in distressing hours (which are sure to follow). This is a *very* hard thing you’re going thru, one of the hardest for many mltpls. I’m not here (asd) on a real steady basis but there’s good ppl here who will at least listen. Okay? You’ve survived much worse, by what you’ve said. You *can* survive this. Even when it might not feel that way at times. One day at a time Deb. Okay? Sad for you, Dayzie Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years. I think she dumped me over a money issue. I am disabled and on medicare. I could not afford her $120/hr fee. Medicare stopped paying her because she filed inaccuarately and she got frustrated she wasn’t getting her money. I was paying her $25/hr. Medicare has now paid her but I am gone. I think she wanted me gone as well. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about therapists, especially Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
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Thank you so much Rose. I will e-mail you soon. Warmest regards, Debbie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. Your therapist made a committment when she agreed to see you at a lower cost. Therefore, she is the one that broke the agreement. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social workers. Good luck! Please remember that you are not resonsible for what your therapist did to you. WE, those with DID are survivors!!!!! You may email if you like…Maybe I can help you find a new therapist and I could ask my therapist if she knows of someone in your area. Caringly, Rose
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Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. Your therapist made a committment when she agreed to see you at a lower cost. Therefore, she is the one that broke the agreement. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social workers. Good luck! Please remember that you are not resonsible for what your therapist did to you. WE, those with DID are survivors!!!!! You may email if you like…Maybe I can help you find a new therapist and I could ask my therapist if she knows of someone in your area. Caringly, Rose
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Hi. I have DID, PTSD and Bipolar disorders. I just lost my therapist of 2 1/2 years.
Hi Deb, After two months of reading posts to this group and not contributing my own thoughts or comments, I read your letter and had to respond. My prayers are with you to find exactly what you need. Losing a therapist is very difficult for whatever reason. I am so sorry. I feel really bad and it hurts a lot. I’ve been through this same thing 2 therapists ago. I am beginning to get cynical about therapists, especially
That makes a lot of sense. Any kind words would help. Any questions are welcomed. Sincerely Deb
This seems like a very receptive and supportive place, Deb. Hopefully in a short period of time what you need will fall into place. WIshing you only the best, Anne (PTSD, DID)
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Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other.
I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last statement. A therapist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therapist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor??? Treating DID is not easy, and there are common "beginner’s mistakes" that an appropriately trained therapist will not make. Twnety years ago, when there was almost nobody trained to treat DID and there were no training resources, it would have been more acceptable for a therapist who knew nothing about DID to try his/her hand at a "first case." But today there are numerous people trained in treating DID, and the untrained have access to a wide variety of training resources. For example, the International Society for the Study of Dissociation is offering a 4-day conference in Baltimore in about two weeks (http://www.issd.org). Therapists who can’t go can still purchase tapes from previous conferences, enroll in ISSD training courses offered around the US, or purchase consultation or supervision from an experienced DID therapist. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social
workers. Health.com is a commercial website for Health Magazine. Another way to find therapists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therapists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t "certify" them as trained or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications. (In the interest of full disclosure, I’m an ISSD member and a past president of ISSD) — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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Health.com is a commercial website for Health Magazine. Another way to find therapists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therapists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t "certify" them as trained or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications.
one qualification: ISSD members aren’t all therapists, and the list you get does not specify whether or not the members are therapists. that’s a minor inconvenience, imo, but something folks should be aware of. i think i remember that sidran used to have a list, also. do they still? — astri
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i think i remember that sidran used to have a list, also. do they still?
Yes they do. Simply email the Resource Specialist and ask for a list of T’s skilled in working with dissociation in the State of (and give your rl address and State), they will send a whole list. SofT — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail:
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it’s actually probably a list of t’s *interested* in working with dissociation. i don’t think any organization is going to vouch for skill levels. — astri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i think i remember that sidran used to have a list, also. do they still? Yes they do. Simply email the Resource Specialist and ask for a list of T’s skilled in working with dissociation in the State of (and give your rl address and State), they will send a whole list. SofT — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail:
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It’s good to see you again, Peter. jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last statement. A therapist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therapist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor??? Treating DID is not easy, and there are common "beginner’s mistakes" that an appropriately trained therapist will not make. Twnety years ago, when there was almost nobody trained to treat DID and there were no training resources, it would have been more acceptable for a therapist who knew nothing about DID to try his/her hand at a "first case." But today there are numerous people trained in treating DID, and the untrained have access to a wide variety of training resources. For example, the International Society for the Study of Dissociation is offering a 4-day conference in Baltimore in about two weeks (http://www.issd.org). Therapists who can’t go can still purchase tapes from previous conferences, enroll in ISSD training courses offered around the US, or purchase consultation or supervision from an experienced DID therapist. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social workers. Health.com is a commercial website for Health Magazine. Another way to find therapists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therapists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t "certify" them as trained or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications. (In the interest of full disclosure, I’m an ISSD member and a past president of ISSD) — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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astri, it’s actually probably a list of t’s *interested* in working with dissociation.
Actually, the list I received was of t’pists, groups and orgs in my area who were either skilled, worked or centralized on PTSD, trauma and dissociation. i don’t think any organization is going to vouch for skill levels.
*nodding* Tis true, they don’t vouch for skill level. SofT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i think i remember that sidran used to have a list, also. do they still? Yes they do. Simply email the Resource Specialist and ask for a list of T’s skilled in working with dissociation in the State of (and give your rl address and State), they will send a whole list. SofT — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or
– For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail:
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Ditto from me too. Good to see you posting again, Peter.
Thanks! I stop in now & then to scan over what’s happening here, but I try and confine my posts to information-only messages. Peter Barach
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Ditto from me too. Good to see you posting again, Peter. SofT Newsgroups: alt.support.dissociation Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:53 PM It’s good to see you again, Peter. jane
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last statement. A therapist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therapist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor??? Treating DID is not easy, and there are common "beginner’s mistakes" that an appropriately trained therapist will not make. Twnety years ago, when there was almost nobody trained to treat DID and there were no training resources, it would have been more acceptable for a therapist who knew nothing about DID to try his/her hand at a "first case." But today there are numerous people trained in treating DID, and the untrained have access to a wide variety of training resources. For example, the International Society for the Study of Dissociation is offering a 4-day conference in Baltimore in about two weeks (http://www.issd.org). Therapists who can’t go can still purchase tapes from previous conferences, enroll in ISSD training courses offered around the US, or purchase consultation or supervision from an experienced DID therapist. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social workers. Health.com is a commercial website for Health Magazine. Another way to find therapists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therapists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t "certify" them as trained or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications. (In the interest of full disclosure, I’m an ISSD member and a past president of ISSD) — Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
– For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail:
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one qualification: ISSD members aren’t all therapists, and the list you get does not specify whether or not the members are therapists. that’s a minor inconvenience, imo, but something folks should be aware of.
ISSD has several membership categories, but the only names sent out are those who are regular Members, defined as follows: "Regular voting membership is open to mental health and medical professionals involved in the study or treatment of dissociative phenomena. Members must be licensed professionals; practicing under the supervision of a licensed professional; qualified within the accepted legal or cultural standards for conducting clinical practice in his or her locale; or primarily involved in research, education, or public health activities in an area related to dissociation." ISSD doesn’t send out the names of student, retired, or affiliate members in response to these requests. Affiliate members, who are nonprofessionals interested in the aims of the society (to promote teaching and research in dissociation and the dissociative disorders) are also not included in ISSD’s membership directory. — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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[concerning Sidran's list] it’s actually probably a list of t’s *interested* in working with dissociation. i don’t think any organization is going to vouch for skill levels.
That’s correct. Sidran just lists people who are interested in dissociation. They have no certification or evaluation process. — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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Hello Peter, Ditto from me too. Good to see you posting again, Peter. Thanks!
Yer welcome. I stop in now & then to scan over what’s happening here,
I had a feeling you’d become an avid lurker. :O) I know one thing, I know I can post a post intended for you and trust that you’ll be around to read it. :O) … but I try and confine my posts to information-only messages.
*nodding* Can’t say that I blame you for adhering to such. It seems to me that every time in the past 6+ years that I’ve been here, you’ve been sludged and criticized at times for not posting as a "therapist" and in a "professional" manner. So fwiw, while I do so appreciate information-sharing, I also really like your sense of humor and I miss the playful moments that we used to have with you here. SofT, whose rubbed chocolate on your white Haitian couch when you weren’t looking. Oh me, oh my! I’ll lick it off, no worries. *grin* — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail:
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exactly: "…or primarily involved in research…" those guys aren’t therapists. — astri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – one qualification: ISSD members aren’t all therapists, and the list you get does not specify whether or not the members are therapists. that’s a minor inconvenience, imo, but something folks should be aware of. ISSD has several membership categories, but the only names sent out are those who are regular Members, defined as follows: "Regular voting membership is open to mental health and medical professionals involved in the study or treatment of dissociative phenomena. Members must be licensed professionals; practicing under the supervision of a licensed professional; qualified within the accepted legal or cultural standards for conducting clinical practice in his or her locale; or primarily involved in research, education, or public health activities in an area related to dissociation." ISSD doesn’t send out the names of student, retired, or affiliate members in response to these requests. Affiliate members, who are nonprofessionals interested in the aims of the society (to promote teaching and research in dissociation and the dissociative disorders) are also not included in ISSD’s membership directory. — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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Thank you Peter. Debbie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another person. That includes your therapist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therapists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therapist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last statement. A therapist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therapist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor??? Treating DID is not easy, and there are common "beginner’s mistakes" that an appropriately trained therapist will not make. Twnety years ago, when there was almost nobody trained to treat DID and there were no training resources, it would have been more acceptable for a therapist who knew nothing about DID to try his/her hand at a "first case." But today there are numerous people trained in treating DID, and the untrained have access to a wide variety of training resources. For example, the International Society for the Study of Dissociation is offering a 4-day conference in Baltimore in about two weeks (http://www.issd.org). Therapists who can’t go can still purchase tapes from previous conferences, enroll in ISSD training courses offered around the US, or purchase consultation or supervision from an experienced DID therapist. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therapist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therapists/social workers. Health.com is a commercial website for Health Magazine. Another way to find therapists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therapists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t "certify" them as trained or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications. (In the interest of full disclosure, I’m an ISSD member and a past president of ISSD) — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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*HEEEEE!!!* I just realized that I went through, splatted the word "thpst" throughout this entire message, after writing a thingy bout splatting the word, *and never realized that the SUBJECT HEADER used the full word.* good grief, i sure *hope* nobody’s been bothered by this thread! ;) I’m such a ditz! :-D at least we got Luc off his high horse… such a pain when the brainiac decides to take an interest in something… [at least there are those here with *some* interest in things cerebral, unlike certain barbarians and silly-persons one could mention...] *the barbarians and goofs turn full grins on Luc* We’re all one big happy femily here…it’s just so much *fun* to tease each other! *happy thoughts* jt
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[note: e, if you're reading, i suggest that you don't read this. it's triggery to you.] . . . . . . <not really a spoiler, just a courtesy for e . . . . . my understanding is that the most important factor in whether a client improves in thpy is the strength and quality of the relationship between the client and the thpst. my thpst is a jerk (said with a smile), takes great delight in getting me to cuss him out, and has said a few things here and there that I could probably sue him for. But any time he’s broken something – said something totally inappropriate that triggers me and damages our relationship – he’s fixed it. He *is* trained in working with multiples, but neither of us knew, for the first 5 years that we worked together, that I was multiple. So, even with training, even with me giving descriptions of mental processes that honestly can’t be anything *but* switching between parts, he didn’t pick up on it. I figured it out. Training is important. I was greatly relieved to learn that he had experience working with multiples, when we discussed it. But it’s not everything. Dr. Barach, (I’d call you Peter, but there’s a Peter on the ng already. ) I would love to continue this discussion if you are interested (ooh, Freudian slip – wrote "interesting" -no offense intended. My playful side is co-conscious with my intellectual side. It makes things difficult on the intellectual, but it’s worth it.). I do ask, however, that if you respond, that you please abbreviate or splat the word thera___pist. An unfortunate coincidence allows one’s eye to divide the word into 2 words, the first being "the", that can be quite triggery to those who have suffered s.a. I tend to abbreviate it "thpst", while the common convention on this news group is to refer to one’s "T". jt (Luc, and, unfortunately (*grins!*), Gloriana) ( 
) [*sigh* ] (Replies may be addressed to Luc, if you wish) Hi Deb, I too have DID. I need to say a few things to you. First, you are not responsable for the actions or behavior of another
person. That includes your therpist. It sounds like she had issues, not you. Many therpists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therpist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last
statement. A therpist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therpist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor??? Treating DID is not easy, and there are common
"beginner’s mistakes" that an appropriately trained therpist will not make. Twnety years ago, when there was almost nobody trained to treat DID and there were no training resources, it would have been more acceptable for a therpist who knew nothing about DID to try his/her hand at a "first case." But today there are numerous people trained in treating DID, and the untrained have access to a wide variety of training
resources. For example, the International Society for the Study of Dissociation is offering a 4-day conference in Baltimore in about two weeks
(http://www.issd.org). Therpists who can’t go can still purchase tapes from previous
conferences, enroll in ISSD training courses offered around the US, or purchase consultation or supervision from an experienced DID therpist. However, it sounds like you need to see a new therpist. Maybe someone here in this group knows of someone in your area or you can go to health.com and look up therpists/social workers. Health.com is a commercial website for Health
Magazine. Another way to find therpists is to go to ISSD’s webpage (http://www.issd.org/indexpage/generalform.html) and
request a list of ISSD members in your area. ISSD members are therpists who have an interest in the field of dissociative disorders. ISSD doesn’t
"certify" them as trained – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – or competent, but when you have the list, you can contact them and do a brief phone interview to find out about their qualifications. (In the interest of full disclosure, I’m an ISSD member and a past president of ISSD) — Clinical Psychologist 5851 Pearl Road, Suite 305 Cleveland, OH 44130 Phone: Voice: 440-845-9011, press 6; Fax: 440-845-9013 Opinions posted here are my own and not necessarily those of any organization with which I am affiliated
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I agree Peter, a t’pist who isn’t educated and trained to work with a specific population is not doing their client a service nor are they having a symbiotic relationship of equivalent proportion despite any lowered fee. SofT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter wrote… Many therpists make the decisssion to treat people with DID at a lower cost. Not only for the benifit of helping someone with DID, it also help them, the therpist, better understand what DID is all about. So you see, we are helping each other. I have to disagree strongly with Rose’s last statement. A therpist with no relevant experience or training in dissociative disorders is NOT doing a DID patient a favor to treat him/her at lower cost. Whether the client is paying $1 or $200 per session, what the client is getting is a therpist who hasn’t bothered to get training to treat this client. If I needed brain surgery and a hand surgeon offered to do my brain surgery for only $5 so s/he could learn about brain surgery, is the surgeon doing me a favor???
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Aha!! Now I know who owns the white Haitian cotton couch! Jill didn’t tell me it was you, Peter! It is likely pretty messy now. We had this party, see, and were throwing stuff at it. No offence. If I’d known it was yours, I wouldn’t have bounced those jigglers off it. Much. jane :0) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Peter, Ditto from me too. Good to see you posting again, Peter. Thanks! Yer welcome. I stop in now & then to scan over what’s happening here, I had a feeling you’d become an avid lurker. :O) I know one thing, I know I can post a post intended for you and trust that you’ll be around to read it. :O) … but I try and confine my posts to information-only messages. *nodding* Can’t say that I blame you for adhering to such. It seems to me that every time in the past 6+ years that I’ve been here, you’ve been sludged and criticized at times for not posting as a "therapist" and in a "professional" manner. So fwiw, while I do so appreciate information-sharing, I also really like your sense of humor and I miss the playful moments that we used to have with you here. SofT, whose rubbed chocolate on your white Haitian couch when you weren’t looking. Oh me, oh my! I’ll lick it off, no worries. *grin*
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