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Apparently, someone isn’t so open minded. I was spammed with christian
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are being cute, aren’t you Whiskers? Young, at 40, 41, 42 & 43? Gee, thanks! I know which side of the bread is buttered 
) — — Whiskers
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I thought the point was that we butter both sides. :~)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are being cute, aren’t you Whiskers? Young, at 40, 41, 42 & 43? Gee, thanks! I know which side of the bread is buttered ) — — Whiskers
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You are being cute, aren’t you Whiskers? Young, at 40, 41, 42 & 43? Gee, thanks!
I know which side of the bread is buttered ) — — Whiskers
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Perhaps women feel free to discuss such subjects here because it’s a welcome respite from "nice girls don’t speak of sexual or religious matters" nonsense. Do we let nice girls post here?
Could we stop them? — — Whiskers
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You are being cute, aren’t you Whiskers? Young, at 40, 41, 42 & 43? Gee, thanks!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dare a timid straight but broad-minded Christian(ish) male of 51 raise his head around here? I don’t know what it is with young women these days, but I turn my back for just a moment, and the topic drifts into sex /and/ religion. — — Whiskers
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – -Dare a timid straight but broad-minded Christian(ish) male of 51 -raise his head around here? Certainly! This NG works because of its wide variety of individuals and personalities. -I don’t know what it is with young women -these days, but I turn my back for just a moment, and the topic -drifts into sex /and/ religion. Yeah, two of the most volatile subjects any group of people can discuss. Perhaps women feel free to discuss such subjects here because it’s a welcome respite from "nice girls don’t speak of sexual or religious matters" nonsense.
Do we let nice girls post here? — The opinions given above may be mine. They might also just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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Dare a timid straight but broad-minded Christian(ish) male of 51 raise his head around here? I don’t know what it is with young women these days, but I turn my back for just a moment, and the topic drifts into sex /and/ religion. — — Whiskers
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Hello Dezz, I don’t think we’ve met. Welcome back. I’ve only been around here for about 7 weeks. I like this discovery. I really like that the ages are 40,41,42 & 43. I don’t know what it means, but it has a good feeling about it. If five more pop up, I’ll be digging for answers. BB, Cait
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi ~~~ waves to Claudia~~~~ Was here before for awhile, and have now returned, mainly in lurk mode. Some may remember me as Broken Bear. Add me to the list 40, bi, Eclectic Solitary Wiccan. BB Dezz Here’s what we know so far: Ages: 41,42,43 All bisexual Beliefs: One lapsed Wiccan, one searching spiritualist, and one pagan Old Celt. So what do you think? <BG Spoiler: Paganism (Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal religious beliefs.) -I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and -I were the same age, bi and pagan. I’m 41. -I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt. Raised Baptist, Pagan by choice two years. Eclectic solitary Wiccan, fallen off in practice due to stress and depression. Strong inclination for Shamanism. Hoping to get back into Native American and African Shamanic studies after improving mundane matters. Drawn by bloodlines and, apparently, past life experience. I acquired a handmade African medicine rattle recently. Only worked with it a couple of times, interesting results… — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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Judith, You should be able to find plenty on neo-pagan (wiccan) beliefs, but you won’t find anything on the hereditary paths (old pagan). You are welcome to email me directly, should you have questions. Bright Blessings, Cait
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Spoiler: Paganism (Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal religious beliefs.) I’m doing a little research on wiccan/pagan beliefs as a result of what you’ve said here, and it’s very interesting. Thanks for the discussion… judith
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They look like some great sites, I think I’ll be doing some researching too…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – -Spoiler: Paganism -(Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering -of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F -people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal -religious beliefs.) – -I’m doing a little research on wiccan/pagan beliefs as a result of -what you’ve said here, and it’s very interesting. Thanks for the -discussion… http://www.witchvox.com Definitive (IMO) Wiccan site on the Web. Tons of reading for those who wish to understand Neo-Paganism. http://www.esotericart.com/fringe/occult.htm Wide variety of alternative spirituality and art stuff. Some is bizarre, worth searching anyhow. http://www.themystic.org Cool site, period. One of my favorites. Positive to most major religions. Focuses on personal consciousness. Happy journeying! — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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Hi Dezz, There’s always room for one more….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi ~~~ waves to Claudia~~~~ Was here before for awhile, and have now returned, mainly in lurk mode. Some may remember me as Broken Bear. Add me to the list 40, bi, Eclectic Solitary Wiccan. BB Dezz Here’s what we know so far: Ages: 41,42,43 All bisexual Beliefs: One lapsed Wiccan, one searching spiritualist, and one pagan Old Celt. So what do you think? <BG Spoiler: Paganism (Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal religious beliefs.) -I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and -I were the same age, bi and pagan. I’m 41. -I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt. Raised Baptist, Pagan by choice two years. Eclectic solitary Wiccan, fallen off in practice due to stress and depression. Strong inclination for Shamanism. Hoping to get back into Native American and African Shamanic studies after improving mundane matters. Drawn by bloodlines and, apparently, past life experience. I acquired a handmade African medicine rattle recently. Only worked with it a couple of times, interesting results… — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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Hi ~~~ waves to Claudia~~~~ Was here before for awhile, and have now returned, mainly in lurk mode. Some may remember me as Broken Bear. Add me to the list 40, bi, Eclectic Solitary Wiccan. BB Dezz
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here’s what we know so far: Ages: 41,42,43 All bisexual Beliefs: One lapsed Wiccan, one searching spiritualist, and one pagan Old Celt. So what do you think? <BG Spoiler: Paganism (Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal religious beliefs.) -I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and -I were the same age, bi and pagan. I’m 41. -I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt. Raised Baptist, Pagan by choice two years. Eclectic solitary Wiccan, fallen off in practice due to stress and depression. Strong inclination for Shamanism. Hoping to get back into Native American and African Shamanic studies after improving mundane matters. Drawn by bloodlines and, apparently, past life experience. I acquired a handmade African medicine rattle recently. Only worked with it a couple of times, interesting results… — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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Here’s what we know so far: Ages: 41,42,43 All bisexual Beliefs: One lapsed Wiccan, one searching spiritualist, and one pagan Old Celt. So what do you think? <BG
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Spoiler: Paganism (Spoiler out of respect for a recent discussion on ASDF. Spoilering of religious/spiritual matters on ASD is recommended. Many ASD/F people have trauma related to religion or hold strong personal religious beliefs.) -I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and -I were the same age, bi and pagan. I’m 41. -I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt. Raised Baptist, Pagan by choice two years. Eclectic solitary Wiccan, fallen off in practice due to stress and depression. Strong inclination for Shamanism. Hoping to get back into Native American and African Shamanic studies after improving mundane matters. Drawn by bloodlines and, apparently, past life experience. I acquired a handmade African medicine rattle recently. Only worked with it a couple of times, interesting results… — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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When I have to classify myself, I’m spiritual. I’m sure that we would find a lot of our beliefs could live together quite nicely. There are no coincidences.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and I were the same age, bi and pagan. I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt. I have always been interested in it, but no, I can’t say I’m pagan. I _can_ say though, that if given the opportunity to learn, I would most definitely be able to say yes. I used to date a guy who called me Freya. I used to find runes that he had done to protect me in the oddest places. I would go to put my shoes on, and there would be one in the toe…or they’d be in my underwear drawer, or in the pocket of my jacket. He really had me hooked; too bad we broke up. Since then there hasn’t been anyone in my life that was pagan; at least not till now. Are you pagan, as well? I knew there was something about special about you!! <smiles I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging.
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I just thought it would be one hell of a coincidence if you and Chimera and I were the same age, bi and pagan. I don’t know what Chimera’s path is. I’m hereditary, Old Celt.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have always been interested in it, but no, I can’t say I’m pagan. I _can_ say though, that if given the opportunity to learn, I would most definitely be able to say yes. I used to date a guy who called me Freya. I used to find runes that he had done to protect me in the oddest places. I would go to put my shoes on, and there would be one in the toe…or they’d be in my underwear drawer, or in the pocket of my jacket. He really had me hooked; too bad we broke up. Since then there hasn’t been anyone in my life that was pagan; at least not till now. Are you pagan, as well? I knew there was something about special about you!! <smiles I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging.
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I have always been interested in it, but no, I can’t say I’m pagan. I _can_ say though, that if given the opportunity to learn, I would most definitely be able to say yes. I used to date a guy who called me Freya. I used to find runes that he had done to protect me in the oddest places. I would go to put my shoes on, and there would be one in the toe…or they’d be in my underwear drawer, or in the pocket of my jacket. He really had me hooked; too bad we broke up. Since then there hasn’t been anyone in my life that was pagan; at least not till now.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you pagan, as well? I knew there was something about special about you!! <smiles I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging.
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right fucking on. that took serious guts. do what you can, but I’m really, really sitting here in admiration. yeah!
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Chimera, I’m 42. Just out of curiosity, how old are you? BB, Cait
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To an AA meeting. Went where I knew the people were friendly and open-minded. It was very cool. I felt ashamed for waiting three weeks. Another woman had waited a year. Others told stories of how it took months to find the courage to come back. I have a temporary sponsor. She seems nice, though I will be keeping my eyes out for a queer sponsor. Easier to relate to. (The big queer meeting here is Sunday night.) It’s a good excuse for 8.5 miles round-trip on the bike. There’s other bikers. Yeah, I have to keep going back. No, I’m not going to become an AA Nazi. Won’t hit anyone in the head with my Big Book or spout slogans all the time. Didn’t do it before and ain’t gonna start now. — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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Are you pagan, as well?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I knew there was something about special about you!! <smiles I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging.
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Hey, we could start a club here… Seriously, I don’t think I’ve ever gone anywhere else on the Internet and found anyone who could put what I feel about my sexuality into words so well; and now I find not just one, but two! Alright, now I’m gonna wake up from this dream right?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – -I thought I had read that you are bi. So am I, but I don’t consider myself -queer. That’s a term that means homosexual to me. Matter of choice. I use the term "queer" for people who do not identify as totally heterosexual or without gender variances. -I tend not to feel -comfortable with the homosexual community because too many people that I -have spoken with, within the community, felt that no one is truly bi, that -anyone who claims to be bi simply was in denial of their homosexuality. That nonsense drove me out of the community the first time around, in the early 80’s. I’m older now. I put up with less crap. I’m going to associate with whoever I like, wherever I like, take me or leave me as I am. -I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals -and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. -I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging. Basically, same here. I am primarily attracted to _individuals_. — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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I knew there was something about special about you!! <smiles
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To an AA meeting. Went where I knew the people were friendly and open-minded. It was very cool. I felt ashamed for waiting three weeks. Another woman had waited a year. Others told stories of how it took months to find the courage to come back. I have a temporary sponsor. She seems nice, though I will be keeping my eyes out for a queer sponsor. Easier to relate to. (The big queer meeting here is Sunday night.) It’s a good excuse for 8.5 miles round-trip on the bike. There’s other bikers. Yeah, I have to keep going back. No, I’m not going to become an AA Nazi. Won’t hit anyone in the head with my Big Book or spout slogans all the time. Didn’t do it before and ain’t gonna start now. — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
i’ll drink to that
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I thought I had read that you are bi. So am I, but I don’t consider myself queer. That’s a term that means homosexual to me. I tend not to feel comfortable with the homosexual community because too many people that I have spoken with, within the community, felt that no one is truly bi, that anyone who claims to be bi simply was in denial of their homosexuality. I, on the other hand, have never been able to understand how the heterosexuals and homosexuals can choose to be attracted to the bodies of only one gender. I fall for the spirit, whatever the packaging.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – -I’m so glad you went. I am now. It took days of meditation and arguing with myself to finally go. Shame is the worst part of PTSD. It’s also the worst part of being an alcoholic. -Why are you so hip on the queer meeting? ‘Cause I’m queer? :P The biggest trigger to my relapse was the stress of coming to full terms with my bisexual identity. While I enjoy meeting the diverse people found in AA meetings, I’d like to have a little space with people who understand both. I’ve met Pagans at AA meetings before. I also "click" spiritually with Buddhists and open-minded Christians. Looking for them, too. -BB, -Cait Goddess bless. — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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I’m so glad you went. Why are you so hip on the queer meeting? BB, Cait
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To an AA meeting. Went where I knew the people were friendly and open-minded. It was very cool. I felt ashamed for waiting three weeks. Another woman had waited a year. Others told stories of how it took months to find the courage to come back. I have a temporary sponsor. She seems nice, though I will be keeping my eyes out for a queer sponsor. Easier to relate to. (The big queer meeting here is Sunday night.) It’s a good excuse for 8.5 miles round-trip on the bike. There’s other bikers. Yeah, I have to keep going back. No, I’m not going to become an AA Nazi. Won’t hit anyone in the head with my Big Book or spout slogans all the time. Didn’t do it before and ain’t gonna start now. — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To an AA meeting. Went where I knew the people were friendly and open-minded. It was very cool. I felt ashamed for waiting three weeks. Another woman had waited a year. Others told stories of how it took months to find the courage to come back. I have a temporary sponsor. She seems nice, though I will be keeping my eyes out for a queer sponsor. Easier to relate to. (The big queer meeting here is Sunday night.) It’s a good excuse for 8.5 miles round-trip on the bike. There’s other bikers. Yeah, I have to keep going back. No, I’m not going to become an AA Nazi. Won’t hit anyone in the head with my Big Book or spout slogans all the time. Didn’t do it before and ain’t gonna start now.
Rarely have i met a woman who has so thoroughly followed so many paths! :) I always fell asleep during the speaker meetings, but the discussion meetings (so long as they weren’t on one of the more boring Steps or..even worse…the Traditions!) could get lively. Of course I was the one who enjoyed arguing with the old timers in between the time when they were trying to grab my ass before the meeting and offering me a ride home after. Ahhh yes, good times. Meetings are good for meeting people, therefore I think it’s all good (but watch out for those thirteen steppers!). jean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — chimera: learned a lot, a lot to learn my stream of consciousness flows into a clogged sewer pipe.
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