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post/mail is there anybody out there?
we’re here, Kat. what’s up? you ok? willow — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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is there anybody out there?
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post/mail is there anybody out there? we’re here, Kat. what’s up? you ok? willow not okay. safe but not okay. cant sleep and everything make me cry. Kat cry too and we all sooooooo sad and mad and scared too. Kat sent bad note here and nobobi sent nothin back so now she think everybob afraif of us. thank yu for saing hi to her and us. the teers just won go way.
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not doin good. doin real bad. even sent the body name first time but got that out. real scared and lonely and sad. Kat is crying all thetime and so am I. Kat and the big person witht he body name rote befor but must bee to scarrrry to read cuz nobodi did. real bad rite now and feels like goona throw up when we thinks of seeing the t today. cant sleep neether. sorry not happy thoughts. tamara (of us)
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is there anybody out there?
Hi Kat, puzzles is here :) — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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is there anybody out there? we’re here, Kat. what’s up? you ok? not doin good. doin real bad. even sent the body name first time but got that out. real scared and lonely and sad. Kat is crying all thetime and so am I. Kat and the big person witht he body name rote befor but must bee to scarrrry to read cuz nobodi did. real bad rite now and feels like goona throw up when we thinks of seeing the t today. cant sleep neether. sorry not happy thoughts. tamara (of us)
*comfort* yep, scary is really tough. so’s lonely. i’m lonely a lot, too. luckily tho i can write here and people will write back, if i say i’m lonely. i don’t know if i read the other post, because i haven’t been getting all the posts lately. it’s ok to not have happy thoughts. it’s really sad to not have *any* happy thoughts mixed in with the scary and lonely thoughts, though. is it ok if i send you a happy thought? here’s one just for you, all about rainbows and freshly blooming tulips. willow — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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(((((((((((((((Kat)))))))))))))))
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we are just lost right now. been in therapy with this doc for 2 years or so. (some say he is one of the best in VA). Sometimes it feel like we are spinning our wheels by repeating the same stuff over and over. Some of us are making progress. and others are just plan tired. we got internal cooperation. So why are we here? —
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Hello Ann R – This is Beauty. You ask at the end "why am i here?" and I wonder where it is that you are that you don’t want to be. You say "lost," which describes it somewhat, and "spinning your wheels," and "repeating the same stuff" – where would you like to be that you aren’t? What would you like to be feeling/doing? Also, one more comment – your ther*pist may or may not be "the best in VA" – but some ther*pists are good for some peoples and some conditions and some are good for others. Just a consideration. One I was working with understood perfectly when I wanted to switch to someone who specialized in s*xual trauma. Also, someone sent me to an excellent DID expert, who happened to be doing something that helped me at that particular time in my life. He might not have helped me at another time, who knows? Internal cooperation is good. Does that mean you are "safe"? That is good. That is one main thing I was working toward. What else would you like to work toward? Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we are just lost right now. been in therapy with this doc for 2 years or so. (some say he is one of the best in VA). Sometimes it feel like we are spinning our wheels by repeating the same stuff over and over. Some of us are making progress. and others are just plan tired. we got internal cooperation. So why are we here? —
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Multiiple Friends is and online chatroom that has a 2 therps online on AOL from midnight e.s.t. It lasts an hour but about half the folks stay around for alot longer without the hosts(on line therps) I don’t know about multiple connections though maybe folks are just lurking out there and don’t want to talk until they feel safe ACESTAR
can you tell me how to get to that chatroom? i have never seen it, and i’d like to go there some time soon cause it sounds cool. thank you in advance.
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Multiiple Friends is and online chatroom that has a 2 therps online on AOL from midnight e.s.t. It lasts an hour but about half the folks stay around for alot longer without the hosts(on line therps) I don’t know about multiple connections though maybe folks are just lurking out there and don’t want to talk until they feel safe ACESTAR
I dunno how to get to aol chatrooms as I am not aol. I’d prolly bristle at therps:) But I’m willing to try it. I never go to divided minds chatroom because by gum I will not submit to review before entering a dang *chatroom*. I have my pride. And then I heard they fight in D.M. and I said ha, it figures. Nation of Jackie this account borrowed from jcash
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thanks Acestar will go there kelly
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Multiiple Friends is and online chatroom that has a 2 therps online on AOL from midnight e.s.t. It lasts an hour but about half the folks stay around for alot longer without the hosts(on line therps) I don’t know about multiple connections though maybe folks are just lurking out there and don’t want to talk until they feel safe ACESTAR
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please let us know someone is there.please come online to chatroom.everytime we find someone on they never talk then leave.multipl connec we need to.boundword very bad time with work
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we are many inside this body. we are sad and overwhelmed. please help us.jennifer and the people
Hi jennifer and the people, Maybe we could help if we knew why you were feeling sad and overwhelmed? Do you want to talk (write) about it? I know what it’s like to feel sad and overwhelmed. Forest — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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we are many inside this body. we are sad and overwhelmed. please help us.jennifer and the people
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I am tired of this! Things that I should be able to remember I forget. I can’t seem to function anymore. I really am begining to hate myself for all the wrong things that I am doing. People say that it is ok, that I am just human. But, to make so many mistakes? I just want to crawl into my bed and never leave ever again. I want to be in control over my life and not have other people in here messing with MY mind. It is MINE and I want them all to leave! I can’t get rid of this headache. I just want them to leave me alone.
the time a system comes to self-awareness is almost always terribly confusing and disruptive. it *does* settle down, but that happens when everyone stops fighting and starts to accept that things are the way they are and that they have to learn how to communicate and cooperate. sorry, but it is not just your mind and your body. you share it. you have always shared it, you just didn’t know that. they are not gonna leave, cuz they have no place else to go, just like you don’t. a lot of the dissociative headaches come because of the fighting and resisting each other. you guys have to learn to pull together a little better. you have to learn to compromise with each other. that’s a really hard thing to learn to do when everyone has different values and priorities, folks don’t like each other, some don’t wanna talk to some others, and others *can’t* talk to some others. but you just gotta do your best, cuz the bottom line is if the body ends up someplace stupid like jail or a hospital, you *all* gotta go with it. The ones who came out first, were generally pretty cool. But, now there are others and I don’t like them so much. They come out and I am not aware of it. They do rotten things and make people think that it was me!! It was not me, I didn’t do those things. They have no right to make me not remember things. What can I do? Are they afraid that they, too, will join and become one? We have already had a little joining, but not completely. How do I make them go away and stop ruining my life? (Don’t tell me to see a therp–I hate doctors, all they care about is money anyway.) Thanks for listening. Sunshine (Cheryl)
how about trying to talk to them, and do your best not to insult them. cuz even though they are doing things that are not fair to you, maybe you are doing things that are not fair to them. and if they really do have the power to make you forget when they come out, then they have the upper hand in that and it would be kinda silly to piss them off. they’re not going to just go away. they have just as much reason to exist as you do. and nobody is going to just integrate if they don’t want to. it doesn’t work that way. communicate, compromise, cooperate, coordinate that’s what you gotta do. all of you are in this together, whether you like that or not. pink bunnies / ~ ) All conditions are temporary `o’_* — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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I am tired of this! Things that I should be able to remember I forget. I can’t seem to function anymore. I really am begining to hate myself for all the wrong things that I am doing. People say that it is ok, that I am just human. But, to make so many mistakes? I just want to crawl into my bed and never leave ever again. I want to be in control over my life and not have other people in here messing with MY mind. It is MINE and I want them all to leave! I can’t get rid of this headache. I just want them to leave me alone. The ones who came out first, were generally pretty cool. But, now there are others and I don’t like them so much. They come out and I am not aware of it. They do rotten things and make people think that it was me!! It was not me, I didn’t do those things. They have no right to make me not remember things. What can I do? Are they afraid that they, too, will join and become one? We have already had a little joining, but not completely. How do I make them go away and stop ruining my life? (Don’t tell me to see a therp–I hate doctors, all they care about is money anyway.) Thanks for listening. Sunshine (Cheryl) — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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it’s not HEALTHY to be under this kind of stress and especially while many of us (including me) are also trying to deal with PTS!!! i wanna know if there are any of you out there who are wiliing to just _entertain_ the _thought_ of the possibility that a place like this could manifest for us? a place where we paid on a sliding fee scale and were never turned away for lack of funds.
You mean something like a camp? I’ve been thinking that I don’t really want to go to the hospital, but I sure could use a week or so in a place where I can go nuts and someone will be there to help me pick up the pieces. Sounds kind of interesting. swiv
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yes, it’s very frustrating. it takes time to learn to communicate with your insiders and it sucks that while we’re trying to do that we have to have a life, too! i feel we need to do something about this ourselves. i posted about needing a safe place for multiples to go to take time to learn to communicate on the inside and not be under so much stress while we do this…it’s not HEALTHY to be under this kind of stress and especially while many of us (including me) are also trying to deal with PTS!!! i wanna know if there are any of you out there who are wiliing to just _entertain_ the _thought_ of the possibility that a place like this could manifest for us? a place where we paid on a sliding fee scale and were never turned away for lack of funds. i agree with you about doctors. that’s why i believe we need to band together and create what we need for ourselves. the medical system is a for-profit entity and they don’t CARE about us, they care about profits. us multiples should be the ones setting the protocol for our treatment. does anybody have any thoguhts about this? brenda (theKid, shakti and the others)
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am I in the right place? Was diagnosed with dissociative disorder 2 years ago and PTSD. In therapy recently, I relived a trauma. Can’t remember the 2 weeks following the session, but can sort of see it like a movie with no sound. For the last few days have felt nothing, like an empty shell. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Also have major depression and MPD. I’ve made some progress, but now there’s nothing at all and there doesn’t seem to be a reason or meaning for anything. I would hope that no one else has had to experience this complete void, but would appreciate hearing from them if they have. Thanks
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I have a guestion for Donna. I never felt my whole life. I am just learning how to feel. I guess it’s like learning how to walk. but it is so hard. Most of the time I just can’t get out what I want to say. It just swirls around in my head and then I can’t deal with it so i go far away. I guess for me thats safer. Now I am feeling more because I cry alot more but I still only cry when i am alone. I call them private tears. I feel latley like there is a block behind me or a wall because alot of my feelings I am not aware of. It is uncomfortable. As I am writing this I’m thinking that maybe this is part of the process. You see before it was just numb a dead feeling but now there are some feelings so thats good. I just have to learn to let them out, unlock them but I first have to figure what the feelings are. Sorry for rambling . I must ask my therapist next week. Feelings are so difficult. You feel like you are drowning sometimes. Can anyone help?
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It’s helpful to know now that others feel the same way that I do.Crying hurts and scares me still. It helps to know That you and others have experienced these feelings and recover or shall I say learn to feel and deal with them and let it be a part of your life. I am very happy for you and give you alot of credit. I know I have to be patient. As someone else posted This didn’t just develope over night. I have had it my whole life.When I get confused with my feelings I do think allot about what you wrote about memory and making sense and all of that. I am remembering certain things now that I have dissociated from. The problem is when you think of it all you just rather go numb but then when you dissociate that is scarey so I guess in time it will all fall into place. Well thanks for your support. Good luck P.B.
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I am new at this so I will try my best to adhere to protocol. I have recently admitted to myself that it is time, once again, to get some help from a T. The first person I was referred to talked to me for about 20 minutes before she referred me to a clinic. The second first wants me to find out how much my insurance pays. I know it’s probably avoidance, but I’m afraid now to go through the search all over again. Finding someone who accepts and I can work with. Any ideas for how to get past the _do absolutely nothing_ phase a little more quickly this time… before I lose everything again? Hope this was ok. Thanks in advance, Maria * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Hi Maria, I am looking for a new T also right now. I looked up SIDRAN on the web and asked them to email me a list of Ts in my area that were experienced or at least familiar with DID. My computer couldn’t open the file, so I just called them. They will mail you a list for those Ts. When you call to make an appt, talk to them first… ask how much exp. they have, ask if they take ins. ask what their schedule is like. Ask whatever you want! Its free and it saves you both time and effort to find out before you meet what the expectations are. (And if they are even close to what you are looking for!)Good luck!! if they are not what you are looking for, ask if they kinow of someone else that might be exp in y9our area and not on your list! again good luck! R
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Hi Maria, I am looking for a new T also right now. I looked up SIDRAN on the web and asked them to email me a list of Ts in my area that were experienced or at least familiar with DID. My computer couldn’t open the file, so I just called them. They will mail you a list for those Ts. When you call to make an appt, talk to them first… ask how much exp. they have, ask if they take ins. ask what their schedule is like. Ask whatever you want! Its free and it saves you both time and effort to find out before you meet what the expectations are. (And if they are even close to what you are looking for!)Good luck!! if they are not what you are looking for, ask if they kinow of someone else that might be exp in y9our area and not on your list! again good luck! R
sidran is a good place to start, but there are a few things to keep in mind. the list that sidran sends out is a list of their members in your area. the folks on that list may not all be therapists; some of them may be researchers. the folks on the list are not screened or evaluated for how experienced or good they are. they are simply self-selected as being interested in dissociation. also, not all therapists in any area who are interested in or experienced with dissociation are on the sidran list. bottom line is that you are still going to need to do some work in finding someone, but the sidran list is a good place to start. I recommend trying to phone folks on the list, and having a brief conversation with them on the phone about their experience, how they run their practice, what they think is helpful or useful in therapy, what they see as the goals of therapy, etc. I recommend a short list of questions just to let you get some feel for them. expect to say a few words in general about you and what you are looking for (very few words). I think a 5 to 10 minute phone conversation is reasonable. if someone wouldn’t give me 5 to 10 minutes on the phone as a potential client, I wouldn’t see them. if you have the funds, you probably want to have an initial session with at least a couple of them (expect to pay for any face-to-face meetings) to see who you are most comfortable with. it’s perfectly reasonable to let any and all of them know that you are shopping for a therapist and trying to find the best match. the other thing I think is *really* important to do is to network. ask *everyone* you talk to (the ones you like and the ones you don’t like) who else might fit your needs. what often happens is that 1 or 2 names are repeated by most of the professionals. you want to make sure you contact those folks especially. once you’re done with this process, keep your list. it’s not necessarily easy to find a good match. you might choose one person, then find that it doesn’t feel right, or you’ve been working together for a little while, but there are things about working with the person that remain uncomfortable for you. I’d give it about 6 to 8 sessions of really trying to make it work (unless it’s *really* obvious sooner). if it still isn’t quite right, then stop seeing that person. let them know that you don’t think it’s a good match, and ask them for recommendations on who might work better with you — a reasonably good therapist will probably have been thinking the same kinds of things and will have some idea of the kind of therapist that would fit you better. and all therapists should be professional about it, but there are a few who might try to guilt you into staying with them. follow your own instincts. astri
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Thanks Hi Maria, I am looking for a new T also right now. I looked up SIDRAN on the web and asked them to email me a list of Ts in my area that were experienced or at least familiar with DID. My computer couldn’t open the file, so I just called them. They will mail you a list for those Ts. When you call to make an appt, talk to them first… ask how much exp. they have, ask if they take ins. ask what their schedule is like. Ask whatever you want! Its free
Thanks Twiggs..that’s basically what I wound up doing..just coming out with it on the phone..This is what I had been working on with my last T..this way I don’t have to actually go there to see the weird faces :) and it saves you both time and effort to find out before you meet what the expectations are. (And if they are even close to what you are looking for!)Good luck!! if they are not what you are looking for, ask if they kinow of someone else that might be exp in y9our area and not on your list! again good luck! R
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Thankyou, Astri…that was very thoughtful and helpful of you and I appreciate your time * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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i’m bleeding i can’t remember why is there someone here i dont know about? maybe just losing it
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uhh…you ok, kiddo? how bad is it? do you need to go to the er? those things aside, sorry you’re losing it. :( i still care. *offers comforting, rocking, warm, safe hugs, if wanted* <—gives good hugs jt
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im talking to phil he ast me lots of questions like how funny i feel and did i take any weird pills i missing 3 of me diflofenac sodium isnt much blood not really here i think – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – uhh…you ok, kiddo? how bad is it? do you need to go to the er? those things aside, sorry you’re losing it. :( i still care. *offers comforting, rocking, warm, safe hugs, if wanted* <—gives good hugs jt i’m bl**ding i can’t remember why is there someone here i dont know about? maybe just losing it
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