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Thanks celt. What you said makes alot of sense. I realize that I can’t work towards desensitizing myself and working towards coping with the PTSD until the military is finished with investigating everything. I’m trying now to lead two parrallel lives in a way. One to deal with the military when it pokes it’s head in, and one as I want it to be when the military is out of my life. Since I am on medical leave until my release, I only have to go to the base for meds and the odd administative thing. That helps alot. The less I see the better I am. Thanks for the advice. LA Chech The one and only chech! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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LA Chech wrote: >I’m trying now to lead two parrallel lives in a way. One to deal with >the military when it pokes it’s head in, and one as I want it to be when >the military is out of my life.
Wow, sounds like you are really caught in a limbo there. That must be very difficult for you. I hope things go quickly so you can break out of it once and for all. That can’t be a good place to be in. Holly
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In article <7p9h5v$db…@nnrp1.deja.com>, La Chech <la_ch…@my-deja.com> wrote: >Thanks celt. >What you said makes alot of sense. I realize that I can’t work towards >desensitizing myself and working towards coping with the PTSD until the >military is finished with investigating everything.
Part of the art of desensitising for me was working out what my triggers were and sorting out my perspective of them. In the process I had to move my attitude around a bit. Fear tends to cast everything in a different light. Once I understood where the fear was coming from, it became much easier to rationalise it. Being aware is a big step, something of a key. Once the mind is aware of something it’s possible to think a lot more clearly about it. (Or even, at all 
) And I reckon we need all the help we can get! >I’m trying now to lead two parrallel lives in a way. One to deal with >the military when it pokes it’s head in, and one as I want it to be when >the military is out of my life. Since I am on medical leave until my >release, I only have to go to the base for meds and the odd >administative thing.
I apologise if this is an old question (I’m still new here), but are you on meds for an ongoing physical problem, or just for your mental health? That helps alot. The less I see the better I am. >Thanks for the advice.
<ouch> I try hard to refrain from offering advice. I tell you what I’ve learnt about me in the hope that it might touch a chord somewhere in you and turn another light on for you… >LA Chech >The one and only chech! >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
Ps, I’m sorry if this was delayed. For some reason I’m not getting your posts on my local server. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Hello all. I thought I’d drop in and have a look about for a while, but after reading 330+ articles and only a few of them even mentioning ptsd, well… I dunno. I first got ptsd from rape in my early teens. Then I got another does of it with the birth of my first child. It wasn’t diagnosed until after I was a very long way into recovery. So I was over a lot of it before I knew what it was that I was recovering from. While I’m not about to say I’m cured, I am a very long way from where I started out. I still suffer from a few of the after-effects like angry outbursts and anxiety, but it’s now over twelve months since my last flashback or nightmare. I would be happy to discuss my experiences, and what I learnt through them with any here who are interested. But please, can we keep the group politics out of it? Otherwise I might as well go back to alt.atheism, where at least they stay roughly on- topic, and the flames are often funny. — The Celt. | My candle burns at both ends, COTL | It will not last the night; | But ah, my foes and oh, my friends - Icq 45954753 | It gives a lovely Light. Edna St. Vincent Millay.
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Hi celt There are plenty here who want to have on-topic discussions. If you want to discuss your condition, start a thread and request that if anyone wishes to flame you or anyone else in the thread, that they do it privately. If the ones discussing group politics really want to prove that they are respectful of our conditions, they will respect your request. They have for me. Take Care LA Chech The one and only chech mounts her trusty steed and chases the eclipse! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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Hello Celt, Welcome to this group. I personally can’t hep you with the expereince you mentioned but welcome anyway. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Celt wrote: > Hello all. > I thought I’d drop in and have a look about for a while, but after > reading 330+ articles and only a few of them even mentioning ptsd, > well… I dunno. > I first got ptsd from rape in my early teens. Then I got another does of > it with the birth of my first child. > It wasn’t diagnosed until after I was a very long way into recovery. > So I was over a lot of it before I knew what it was that I was recovering > from. > While I’m not about to say I’m cured, I am a very long way from where I > started out. I still suffer from a few of the after-effects like angry > outbursts and anxiety, but it’s now over twelve months since my last > flashback or nightmare. > I would be happy to discuss my experiences, and what I learnt through > them with any here who are interested. > But please, can we keep the group politics out of it? Otherwise I might > as well go back to alt.atheism, where at least they stay roughly on- > topic, and the flames are often funny. > — > The Celt. | My candle burns at both ends, > COTL | It will not last the night; > | But ah, my foes and oh, my friends - > Icq 45954753 | It gives a lovely Light. Edna St. Vincent Millay.
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In article <37B21A35.10E6D…@powersurfr.com>, Stephanie said… }Hello Celt, Welcome to this group. I personally can’t hep you with the }expereince you mentioned but welcome anyway. }Stephanie }
Thank you most kindly for your welcome, but I believe you may have misunderstood me. I am not a victim of ptsd – I am a survivor of it. I did not come here seeking help – I came to offer whatever help I can. } }The Celt wrote: } }> Hello all.
<clip> — The Celt. | My candle burns at both ends, COTL | It will not last the night; | But ah, my foes and oh, my friends - Icq 45954753 | It gives a lovely Light. Edna St. Vincent Millay.
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Ahhh. I’m also not a victim. I’m a survivor as well. That’s what I came here for as well was to help and offer what i could but i discovered that unless you have ptsd on this group and do the necessary crying required here, your really not welcome in this little group because automatically you become a know it all. I came here thinking people would do anything to get the ptsd monkey off their backs but that’s not so. Some become just down right angry and belligerent when you offer them what you know because they actually find comfort in being angry. That’s what I learned anyway. I learned that you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink and that there are none so blind as those who will not see. But double welcome then. I’ll be listening to what you have to say. Another flashlight to light to illuminate this place will be welcome here. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Celt wrote: > In article <37B21A35.10E6D…@powersurfr.com>, Stephanie said… > }Hello Celt, Welcome to this group. I personally can’t hep you with the > }expereince you mentioned but welcome anyway. > }Stephanie > } > Thank you most kindly for your welcome, but I believe you may have > misunderstood me. > I am not a victim of ptsd – I am a survivor of it. > I did not come here seeking help – I came to offer whatever help I can. > } > }The Celt wrote: > } > }> Hello all. > <clip> > — > The Celt. | My candle burns at both ends, > COTL | It will not last the night; > | But ah, my foes and oh, my friends - > Icq 45954753 | It gives a lovely Light. Edna St. Vincent Millay.
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Hi celt, Well, that is nice to here. I’m sure we would be happy to accept any constructive advice you can offer. Can you tell us a little of your story. Did you have problems with concentration? That’s one thing that has stopped me in my tracks. Especially when it comes to reading. Thanks LA Chech The one and only chech use to read a novel in a day….no more! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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In article <7ouv2q$d4…@nnrp1.deja.com>, La Chech said… <clip> }Can you tell us a little of your story.
I think it will have to be in small chunks } }Did you have problems with concentration?
Yes, and still do. I find I am easily distracted, and it takes a long time to get my train of thought back afterwards. } That’s one thing that has stopped me in my tracks.
My problems with concentration came from ‘intrusive’ thoughts that would pop up unexpectedly. Over the course of 20 years, I became so adept at pushing away unpleasant thoughts that I was oblivious to the fact that I did it. Since I addressed those thoughts they no longer intrude and I find that at times I am able to focus my attention quite well now (until I get distracted 
). ‘Addressing the intruding thoughts’ involved working out what they were made of and then ‘desensitising’ myself to them, a tiny bit at a time. In the case of the rape, they were small pieces of memory that had survived traumatic amnesia; for the childbirth, they were the most frightening/confusing/emotionally painful bits. (A sign of a traumatic birth is when the mother remembers way too much of it). At first I was afraid of being overwhelmed by the process but then I realised that my mind has it’s own natural defenses and when it had had enough, it would think about something else. After a while this became more of a frustration to me than an escape. I found that once I had thought out whatever I could of the memory, it went away completely, never to bother me again. These days I have to really concentrate to bring any of it to mind. Others have told me the same is true for them. The bulk of the working out took a lot of courage, and about a month, maybe six weeks. (At the time it felt more like for-ever.) } Especially when it comes to reading.
I do feel for you. One thing that saved my sanity over the years was that I could escape completely into a book of any kind. When I consider the prospect of living without books I find it truly daunting. } }Thanks }
Well, I hope I can help. <clip> — The Celt. | My candle burns at both ends, COTL | It will not last the night; | But ah, my foes and oh, my friends - Icq 45954753 | It gives a lovely Light. Edna St. Vincent Millay.
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