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Stephanie, This thread is not for flaming.  I am looking for everyone else’s opinion on AACK’s attacks etc. We’ve heard all you have to say before.  Once is enough. So, get on with it. LA Chech The one and only chech yawns…11 pm…nope…1130 in Newfoundland. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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But she thinks it’s a better thing to do than making absurd accusations and using them as an excuse for trying to trigger someone. Your justification for attacking Luanne this time was that she was ‘No One’. Your proof was that both Lu and ‘No One’ made references to steph/staph infection. The fact is, a lot of other people made that reference too. You attacked Luanne because you wanted to attack Luanne, not because you had any reason to believe that she was really ‘No One’. You’ve been doing that sort of thing for so long, Stephanie, accusing anyone you don’t like of being Luanne, and then using that as an excuse to attack Lu vicously and relentlessly. This time I finally decided to call you of it. I’m sorry that you’re so upset by the term Staph Infection, but, after all you’re the one who made an issue of it in the first place. Stephanie wrote: > Well I don’t particuarily like name calling so I haven’t been doing it.

But on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > You have the personality of a brainless twitt and a loser.

In another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > You’re the Troll.

In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > Diarrhea mouth.

In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > She’s an abuser and she wears that role well.

In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > Troll.

And that’s just one day. In fact, Stephanie, name-calling seems to be your favorite pasttime. Stephanie wrote: > We now pronounce you "Emma Roid".

I think I’ll live. ;-)

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>But since you think it’s fine to call me names "because" everyone has from >the very start,

With all the abuse you spew on here, a little name-calling shouldn’t bother you.  You’re not liked, you know it, yet you continue to hang around spewing your crap.  You’ve scared off every newbie that has peeked into this list and sent them off, screaming into the night. Why not get Andy that viagra and give all of us a much needed break??   I know that I am liked on here by MOST of the newsgroups.  The people who don’t like me are the trolls who have no business in here to start with. Luanne

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Hi La Chech! > I’d like to hear from all of you.

I think that I’ve solved ‘my’ problem.  Rather than using a kill-file, I just check out the sender’s address.  This morning there were only about 3 messages (of 30+) that I chose to read. Isn’t it amazing how this ng is teaching me about boundaries?  And how to maintain a boundary in a loving manner? Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy

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Luanne writes: >You’ve scared off every newbie that has peeked into this list and >sent them off, screaming into the night.

Nope, not quite. >The people who don’t >like me are the trolls who have no business in here to start with.

I don’t think this is a popularity contest, well…except to you.  The behavior is what most of us don’t like, not the person.  And that certainly doesn’t make some of us trolls. I just think it’s amazing….you and Scott are real good at pointing fingers and speaking out about trolling and the like and namecalling  as if you’re some hero and heroine.  But when it comes right down to it….most of the time, you’re the ones starting this stuff because of things that happened here in the past.  And if anything, you both look very childish; not at all heroic. This ng has got to be the joke of the net!   Come one, come all to alt.support.trauma-ptsd!   We will abuse you! We will traumatize you! You will go down in flames! But don’t come empty-handed! Bring your pettiness! Bring your namecalling! Bring all your childish behavior! Support is in our name but flaming is our game. We only support each others’ trolling and flaming. We support no one with PTSD.   We only aggravate that condition. But we will ask for proof that you have PTSD. We will want to know what meds you are on. We will want to know if you’re in counseling. We will not think you genuine without proof of these three things. So come one, come all…to alt.support.trauma-ptsd!

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That’s great Nancy. Ignoring the flamers and there will be peace. Take Care LA Chech The one and only chech would like to thanks Swansons as weel. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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hi hk I agree 100%.  I want this childishness to end now.  There’s only one way to prove the flamers wrong and that is not to stoop to their level. Cease with the name-calling.  It is how a child reacts! Ignore the flames.  If you don’t read it you won’t feel the need to respond.  The flamers say they had killfiled the others, but last nights posts are evidence enough to show they did not. Talk PTSD.  That’s what we’re here for. LA Chech The one and only chech is going to finish building her deck today! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I have respectfully asked that you not respond to this thread. If you do not respect our requests as such, then who is the bully? LA Chech The one and only chech! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I think you had an issue with the one who gave you up for adoption if I’m not mistaken. That’s the one you need to forgive. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >ld go a long way for you Luanne. Forgiving  your mother > You’re talking nonsense.  I had a decent mother. > Luanne

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I like AACK.  AACK has facts. How about Luanne and Scott stop trying to bully people off this ng. as if they owned it.  A little adjustment in attitude could go a long way. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -La Chech wrote: > Peace in this ng will start with AACK going away and if Stephanie stops > using the word Luanne in her posts. > I don’t think I’m seeing all the posts, but thanks for the replies so > far. > There are more out there.  I’d like to hear from all of you. > LA Chech > The one and only chech ate too many BBQ hamburgers tonight…urp! > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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My opinion is that AACK is not offensive. AACK deals with  facts. Luanne is a flame thrower.  Luanne is a Pit Bully. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -La Chech wrote: > Stephanie, > This thread is not for flaming.  I am looking for everyone else’s > opinion on AACK’s attacks etc. > We’ve heard all you have to say before.  Once is enough. > So, get on with it. > LA Chech > The one and only chech yawns…11 pm…nope…1130 in Newfoundland. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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EmmaRoid. I personally can’t stand name calling.  It’s a form of Bullying. But since you think it’s fine to call me names "because" everyone has from the very start, Quote: And you seem to think that was acceptable, you start taking some responsibility for your rudeness and see how EmmaRoids feels on your ass for a while. . . The fact is EmmaRoid, You, Emma,  made that reference in name calling me Staph Infection . Don’t hide your rude behavior behind "other people". Fact Is:  You have no justification in name calling anyone period, under any circumstances. You just what?  Thought you’d wake up and take a kick at the cat did you? I never had any issues with you until you began name calling me. Who the hell do you think you are?  Luanne? We have letters dear Emma to prove that Ms Luanne Marie Pruesner has been anything but a lady in her hacking and email bombing of defenseless victims.. We wouldn’t be taking her to task if we weren’t completely tired of her underhanded game playing, her foul language and her constant relentless harassment. . Stephanie. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Emma wrote: > But she thinks it’s a better thing to do than making absurd accusations > and using them as an excuse for trying to trigger someone. > Your justification for attacking Luanne this time was that she was ‘No > One’. Your proof was that both Lu and ‘No One’ made references to > steph/staph infection. The fact is, a lot of other people made that > reference too. You attacked Luanne because you wanted to attack Luanne, > not because you had any reason to believe that she was really ‘No One’. > You’ve been doing that sort of thing for so long, Stephanie, accusing > anyone you don’t like of being Luanne, and then using that as an excuse > to attack Lu vicously and relentlessly. This time I finally decided to > call you of it. > I’m sorry that you’re so upset by the term Staph Infection, but, after > all you’re the one who made an issue of it in the first place. > Stephanie wrote: > > Well I don’t particuarily like name calling so I haven’t been doing it. > But on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > > You have the personality of a brainless twitt and a loser. > In another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > > You’re the Troll. > In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > > Diarrhea mouth. > In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > > She’s an abuser and she wears that role well. > In yet another message on 10 Aug, Stephanie wrote: > > Troll. > And that’s just one day. In fact, Stephanie, name-calling seems to be > your favorite pasttime. > Stephanie wrote: > > We now pronounce you "Emma Roid". > I think I’ll live. ;-)

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With all the abuse you spew on here, a little name-calling shouldn’t bother you Pit Bull with hairy legs. .  You’re not liked, you know it, yet you continue to hang around spewing your crap.  You’ve scared off every newbie that has peeked into this list and sent them off, screaming into the night. Why not get Scott that Buspar for his obsessions problem and give all of us a much needed break??  Help yourself to a bottle of Buspar while your at it. I know that I am liked on here by MOST of the newsgroups.  The people who don’t like me are the Pit Bully’s who have no business in here to start with. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >But since you think it’s fine to call me names "because" everyone has from > >the very start, > Stephanie

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>I coulda sworn that La Chech specifically asked the trolls not to >respond on this thread ???

The trolls HAVE to respond.  That is what makes them trolls.   Lu

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Peace in this ng will start with AACK going away and if Stephanie stops using the word Luanne in her posts. I don’t think I’m seeing all the posts, but thanks for the replies so far. There are more out there.  I’d like to hear from all of you. LA Chech The one and only chech ate too many BBQ hamburgers tonight…urp! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Well, you should have also gotten yourself a new personality to go with your new addy.  I mean staph infection hardly sounds like you’ve changed anything other than re applied new nail polish to those long claws of yours. A little forgetting could go a long way for you Luanne. Forgiving  your mother, your rapists, yourself for your alcoholism and forgiving life in general could also be very therapeutic and liberating for you. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -No One wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > I am not Luanne. > Stephanie wrote: > > The newsgroup wouldn’t be about me if you’d just forget I was here and get on with your > > life. > Would you tell someone who’s bleeding to forget the person who just > stabbed them? > Would you tell them to just forget the fact that there’s a mugger > waiting around the next corner? > Would you tell a surgeon to just forget the fact that the O.R. is > contaminated with a staph infection and to go ahead and operate anyway? > Would you tell those who come here to forget the fact that you’ve mocked > people’s pain, laughed at their trauma, insulted and abused them? Would > you tell them to go ahead and spill their guts so that you can > traumatize still more people? Of course you would. > > I’m not the one bullying you off this newsgroup. > You already have bullied me off this newsgroup. Thanks to you and your > ‘fan club’ I’m afraid to use my real name and addy anymore. For a long > time your abusive messages were so triggering that I couldn’t post at > all. I finally decided not to let the assholes win. You don’t like my > new addy? Then you shouldn’t have made it necessary.

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LuanneP (luan…@aol.comet) writes: > AACK put up a cute little homepage in my honor, making fun of me…

We almost forgot about that.  How many sock puppets did you manufacture to send out complaints about that page? For the others out there, we posted a screen capture of that web page. Look for the article "Be Afraid…Be Very Afraid!" in the "alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless" newsgroup.  Enjoy! PR =========================================================== A.A.C.K. Public Relations aack…@yahoo.com ===========================================================

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>ld go a long way for you Luanne. Forgiving  your mother

You’re talking nonsense.  I had a decent mother.   Luanne

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>Give it up. Steph Infection has been your nickname since you first >showed up here. Nearly everyone in the ng used it

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Well Emma, you’ve said it all. Steph Infection is it? And you think it’s OK to name call people here on this ng. ? You think that’s a cool thing to do? Well I don’t particuarily like name calling so I haven’t been doing it. I’ve been ignoring it. But if Emma thinks  it’s all right, Well……what the hell! Eh.. Fan club members? What do we say? Let it be known from this day forward, that Stephanie passes a motion to change Emma’s name. With great indignity and dishonor to you Emma, (because we don’t agree name calling is a cool thing to do) However, since you live by the sword, on the sword you will sit. We now pronounce you "Emma Roid". ouch!!! Really, you’ll get used to it. Now you can sit on your fat butt and name call people all you want. Your a pain in the ass EmmaRoid. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Emma wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Stephanie wrote: > > Well, you should have also gotten yourself a new personality to go with your new addy.  I > > mean staph infection hardly sounds like you’ve changed anything > Give it up. Steph Infection has been your nickname since you first > showed up here. Nearly everyone in the ng used it (publicly or > privately) at one time or another. > Emma

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Why do you keep changing your email identity so often and how do you do this?    Do you actually have different personalities or is this just one of those hair color experiment things your into. The newsgroup wouldn’t be about me if you’d just forget I was here and get on with your life.  I’m not the one bullying you off this newsgroup. You’re welcome to stay, it’s you and Scott who can’t leave well enough alone and let people be. . Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -No One wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Enough! > Stephanie wrote: > > I think Jeannie, we could all have a good newsgroup. If Luanne could exercise a > > just a little tolerance here and good will towards those who might  have something > > a little different to offer to the people coming in to this group. . > We had a good newsgroup for years *with* Luanne in attendance. We’ve > always had our little squabbles, but overall we provided advise and > support to those who needed it. > You’re the one who has destroyed that with every visitation. Every time > *you* show up, Stephanie, the newsgroup becomes about you. *You* are > intolerant. *You* heap insults and abuse on anyone who disagrees with > you. *You* make this an dangerous place for anyone with real interests > and concerns about trauma and recovery. > > Differences of > > opinion shouldn’t be threatening and no one should be bullied off this newsgroup > If you really believed that you wouldn’t have done it so many times and > to so many people. > > Everyone should be welcome if they feel they may have something valuable to > > contribute. > Not if they continuously abuse and retraumatize others on this group as > you have done, Stephanie. > > Truth is, unless you finally make peace with what’s eating you, your going to get > > eaten and so is everyone else around you. > Coming from you, that is a terrifying statement because it shows the > depths of your denial. You’re the one who has never made peace with your > inner conflicts. Hell, you won’t even admit that you have them. You keep > talking how you’ve forgiven everyone, but you have shown more > bitterness, vindictiveness and bile than the entire membership of this > newsgroup put together. > You to try to  portray yourself as a caring, compassionate person when > it’s obvious to anyone who reads your posts for more than a few days > that you have enough bitterness and anger to fuel a small city. It would > be funny in an emperor’s new clothes sort of way if it wasn’t so > pathetic. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself. > Out of consideration, I’ve used x-no-archive: yes, but go ahead and > archive this if you want. I’m sure future usenet users will be glad to > have the opportunity to see you as you really are.

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I want to hear from everyone, posters and lurkers alike, if you have had enough of these senseless personal attacks. You don’t have to say much, but if you have heard enough just say yes. If you have been abused by Luanne as AACK (aka Laure82) and Stephanie have maintained, please state a brief message on how.  (I’ve heard enough from AACK, Laure82 and Stephanie, so you need not reply to this thread at all, please!). These people feel they are doing the group a service by posting these comments (and reposting and reposting)….so I’d like to see a hands up on who feels they have benefitted from these posts. Then, if AACK, Laure82 and Stephanie, wish to respect the newsgroup like they keep saying, they should respect the opinions stated in this thread. **** PLEASE NOTE **** To whoever is e-mail bombing them, please stop.  It accomplishes nothing except that we keep hearing about it.  Let us not lower ourselves to that level any more. Thanks LA Chech The one and only chech knows that Any A**hole Can Klick a mouse! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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>  Both hands raised in the air.  I’ve known Luanne approx. 3 >years…and feel I know her well.  

Gosh Scott….has it been that long??  Boy, time flies…… AACK put up a cute little homepage in my honor, making fun of me some months back, yet they claim that I am the person who is so evil and rotten.  The pages were pulled immediately.  AACK is somebody in the adoption community who enjoys attacking me from time to time, and now, on this newsgroup.  AACK is a chicken shit who hides behind an anonymous email while accusing ME of being anonymous under various nicknames!!!  Pot – Kettle = VERY VERY BLACK. >I have never >sent or set up e-mail bombs in my life (wouldn’t have a clue).

Me either.  I don’t have a clue as to how to do this.  I was bombed viciously myself some months back.  I had to have my email addy blocked at the site it was coming from. Thanks Scott, for being my friend, and all the others who have spoken up for me. (Inky, Emma, LaChech, etc…., )  I wish that this newsgroup was what it used to be….the good ole’ days when this was my little corner of the net, and now <gasp> adoption searchers and members of the adoption community who have no traumas read this ng because they all want to see "what the nutcase is saying now."   It is ignorant people who make fun of others with PTSD.  Sometimes, I wish these ignorant idiots could just walk one day in mine/our shoes and see how we feel.   Lu

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Greetings, I have been sort of quiet here lately, in hopes of this group being restored to what it was like when I first started posting. Scott, Lu, and Emma were the ones I know of that were posting back and actually sharing their experiences,strengths and hopes with this dreaded PTSD.   I was so grateful they were here and offered their support. Maybe it will get back to how it used to be. Oh yeah, I almost forgot— My hand is raised————–High. See ya, Jeannie

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I think Jeannie, we could all have a good newsgroup. If Luanne could exercise a just a little tolerance here and good will towards those who might  have something a little different to offer to the people coming in to this group. . Differences of opinion shouldn’t be threatening and no one should be bullied off this newsgroup or placed in the position of having to produce medical documentation for Luanne if they do or don’t genuinely suffer with ptsd. Everyone should be welcome if they feel they may have something valuable to contribute. Luanne and Scott have set themselves up as the Censor board here, which they are not. They have also set themselves up as the News Group Bullies with big elbows. Self appointed Troll patrol.  Bullies they are. My suggesting to Luanne she might have to work at forgiveness in order to rid herself of her anger started this flame war. I guess she didn’t like the idea of trying to recover from her anger. Truth is, unless you finally make peace with what’s eating you, your going to get eaten and so is everyone else around you. Think about it. Stephanie . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jeannie wrote: > Greetings, > I have been sort of quiet here lately, in hopes of this group being restored to > what it was like when I first started posting. > Scott, Lu, and Emma were the ones I know of that were posting back and actually > sharing their experiences,strengths and hopes with this dreaded PTSD. > I was so grateful they were here and offered their support. > Maybe it will get back to how it used to be. > Oh yeah, I almost forgot— > My hand is raised————–High. > See ya, > Jeannie

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