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Hi SunFlower. This is an offshoot of NLP (Neurolinguistic Programming) and it works pretty well for about 25% of the population – 50% will do so – so with it – and 25% will not get anything from it per se. All forms of therapy work like this – even accupuncture – though that is up to 90% effective with a 10% noneffective rate – this all depends on the person – their psychophysiology – their personality on a par with the therapist and the intervention. EMDR is an applied psychophysiology intervention – it is not mindtalk per se – this is why it works so good for those people who it works on and work with it. I have cautions about its depth – and I have a prejudice of applying a mulitiple thematic or mulitple vector healing intervention in combination. EMDR will not teach you to relax, develop parasympathic nervous system training (think of parachute) in slowing you down – nor will it show you where the Healing Response is under the Relaxation Response. Biofeedback is the prefered method of intervention for this. And knowing how to relax effects all levels of your life and health – as does the opposite of chronic stress issues (or PTSD) detoriating your life faster. EMDR with the right therapist and the right client will heal up historical issues – and sometimes it will do just bypass and bury the illness deeper into the defense structure – depending on the issue and the therapist. IBP – as an intervention will not do this – bury inadvertently or unconsciously on the part of the therapist – the disease deeper into the defense structure. Best I can do to help out. SumBuddie 2 Luv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Does anyone know anything about EMDR? (EMDR stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) somebody was telling me about it and I am curious if anyone here has any thoughts/experiences with it? Does it work like the reports say it does? (I’ve looked at a webpage with quite a bit of info about it) just wondering:) thanks ~*~sunflower~*~ — For more information about this posting service, contact: services If you wish to get an anonymous email/posting account, visit our sign-up page: http://asarian-host.org/emailform.html
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Hi Sunflower… I’ve tried EMDR. And it does work as all the reports say. I, for one, believe that it is an incredible tool. It helps you to deal with traumatic memories. I lost my T in the midst of it or I would still be doing it–one bad memory at a time. I started off with what were bad memories but ones that were slightly benign. (like being in the middle of a fight between my parents.. It didn’t hurt like some of the other memories do, because, I think, I had already come mostly to terms with the memory) I would suggest that if you are going to try this that you bring someone you trust with you… it can be very overwhelming and you might need a lift home. (I couldn’t drive the first few times simply because I was so totally exhausted from the process) I also suggest that if you do this that the T you choose to work with is one who will be with you for the long haul. JMO, of course. Ellie… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Does anyone know anything about EMDR? (EMDR stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) somebody was telling me about it and I am curious if anyone here has any thoughts/experiences with it? Does it work like the reports say it does? (I’ve looked at a webpage with quite a bit of info about it) just wondering:) thanks ~*~sunflower~*~ — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you wish to get an anonymous email/posting account, visit our sign-up page: http://asarian-host.org/emailform.html
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I found it enlightening, to say the least, when my therp used to react to the things they told her/him. Things that felt bad, but that had always been a normal part of my life. I was actually *surprised* when someone else thought (and said) they were horrible! It was, somehow, empowering to realize that my instinct was right on, and it was my thinking that had been screwed up.
bingo. i think that one of the first things entering freshmen in therp school are taught, is to not visibly react to what a client says. that it will somehow harm them, or feed their self-pity, or something. either that or they get so jaded they can’t react any longer. for whatever reason, when i’d tell a therp something that, in retrospect, i realize was far from the norm, and that therp didn’t blink an eye, or would immediately come back with "and then what did YOU do to help yourself in that situation?", it gave me the strong message that what happened "wasn’t that bad" and i was being a Self-Pitying Whiner. so the inner critic would resume tearing myself, my soul, to pieces. azure
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this sounds pretty cool azure…….
i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her,
that is so validating. can’t stand it when it appears that what happened to me was nothing. who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place.
FYI. azure
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Laughter has unrecognized power. It’s one of the best survival tools there is, IMNSHO. Dragon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – X-No-Archive: yes My brother and laugh and laugh when talking about our childhood – I know its kind of sick but we do get to giggling at the irony of it and the dark humor there. People just sit there shocked as hell. My comment is – I wish the people seeing it happen had the same shock level at the time it happened. Because they didn’t – it was our ability to find humor in it then and our ability to look back and see that humor now,that kept us from going completely nuts. i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her, who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI. I found it enlightening, to say the least, when my therp used to react to the things they told her/him. Things that felt bad, but that had always been a normal part of my life. I was actually *surprised* when someone else thought (and said) they were horrible! It was, somehow, empowering to realize that my instinct was right on, and it was my thinking that had been screwed up. Dragon — For more information about this NNTP posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi
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i hope he hears that Kc, since its coming from you and not me. sumbuddie knows and wish he didn’t :*( I think a lot of it has to do with your own personal growth as well. I’m glad this is all working for you =) Kc
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her, who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI.
I found it enlightening, to say the least, when my therp used to react to the things they told her/him. Things that felt bad, but that had always been a normal part of my life. I was actually *surprised* when someone else thought (and said) they were horrible! It was, somehow, empowering to realize that my instinct was right on, and it was my thinking that had been screwed up. Dragon
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at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI. azure
keep making progress, in time you will leave the therapist, as you have passsed them in their recovery …. its just a confluence of events and you being ready for the healing, the integration … that is why every buddies recovery is different; and their confluence of events meeting up with their being ready for the healing, the integration. 360 degrees in a circle and twice as many ways to the center, no path is more right then the other. the center is the center – eventually you tire of it and take a 90 degree turn, a right angle, and leave the system of things you are in and know it again for the first time. hopefully you will do this before you die. its da trip of a lifetime. keep up the gud work !!!! sumbuddie not making dis up :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her, who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI. azure
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I don’t know what EMDR is, but I’m glad things are clicking for you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her, who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI. azure
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i realize that it is a controversial procedure, but … i’ve been going to a therp for about a year and a half, we do EMDR about once a month. my experience with it is that it initially is very uncomfortable and squicky but brings things up in order to settle them in record time. i have a therp now that is not afraid to react to some of the things i tell her, who does not minimize and gloss over, and who listens. perhaps it is this alone, perhaps it is the EMDR alone, or perhaps it is the combination … or, perhaps it is the fact that this time i have a religious faith that works and has been powerful for me. at any rate, i truly feel that things are finally clicking into place. FYI. azure
Hi Az, I am glad things are working for you, you deserve it.
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