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What a big relief huh Kat? You can rest a bit easier knowing that she faces jail time for violating the order. They will arrest her if she comes around =) Very good to hear the kids are getting help they need. You’re a guardian angel for them here on earth. Thanks Kat =) Kristine If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Yes, HUGE relief!!!!! I didn’t sleep much at all last night, and when I did, it was just horrible horrible nightmares. Fighting in my sleep, crying, all that happy horseshit. Our friend, Rick, who went with me to court, came home with me too, and we went through the house to make sure there was no one here, so I could sleep after he left. (I knew there was no way I could sleep if I didn’t check it all out when he was still here). After we checked out the house and he left? I slept like a log!!!! : ) Rick’s a big guy, real big guy. Used to be a biker, but as he puts it laughingly, he "grew up". I was telling him how scared I was on the way there, and he said "no problem Kat, if she comes after you, she’s going to hit a brick wall", (meaning him). And he was laughing, but it made me feel safe, because I could see in his eyes that he meant it. He’s really laid back, and it was so good he came with me. I was a nervous wreck, but he just kept talking to me. He’s like the brother I always wanted, but never had, you know? Just a sweetheart!!!! You should see my one dog, my little Maltese Gizmo? Whenever Rick comes, he just about has a convulsion!!! He ADORES Rick, he’ll cry in such a way it sounds like he’s dying when he hears Rick come in, and all 6 pounds of him will just vibrate! It’s hilarious! I told Rick, if something ever happens to me, for God sakes, you’ve got to take this dog!!! : ) Whenever we have to leave town, Rick takes care of all our critters for us, and they ALL love him, but Gizmo’s the most vocal about it. It’s so funny to see. Thanks so much for what you said Kris. (((Hugs)))) kat "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010808212613.25018.00005832@ng-fo1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What a big relief huh Kat? You can rest a bit easier knowing that she faces > jail time for violating the order. They will arrest her if she comes around =) > Very good to hear the kids are getting help they need. You’re a guardian angel > for them here on earth. Thanks Kat =) > Kristine > If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they > become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to > become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Hannah, I like that analogy. It took a lot for us to survive, didn’t it. You lost your sister, right Hannah? Just wanted to say I’m sorry for your loss, and I think that’s pretty incredible that you can go out and talk to other survivors who’ve lost a loved one from murder. That’s got to be just gutwrenching. I tip my hat to you Hannah, that you can do it at all. You must have a tremendous amount of strength. kat "Hannah" <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9fbd6ce.0108071914.6dbdd4d5@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey, kat – > All the best tomorrow, I sure hope you get through it all okay. > I’ve always liked the idea/analogy of us all being warriors – and > despite the obstacles, we seem to make it through the worst of odds. I > know this whole situation takes a huge toll on you, kat, but what > you’re doing sure makes a positive difference, and takes all the > qualities of a warrior. Even so, it’s hard to step in, isn’t > it…sometimes, when I’m okay enough, when I hear of murders in my > area, I visit the families to maybe offer them hope that someone else > has been there and survived it – but it’s hard. You make a difference, > and your courage is inspiring. I just hope you’re okay during and on > the other side of it. > Take care, kat. > Hannah
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Hey Kat, *********************CHEERS********************* Glad you’ve got the strength in and out!!!!!!!!!!! The stalker, hasn’t she ordered to attend for anger management program??? Ordeal you’d been through from that out of control grandma, hopefully will get her to sanely accept the consequences she’d put herself in…and of course, put an end to traumas inflicted to the kids and to you too… Thanks to you Kat for helping the abused grandkids the proper help from the authorities, they desperately needed…though the vindictive grandma put you to the tests but your courage, coping strategies put to practice, wow…never mess up with someone like you, PTSD-surviving woman…that your fight for justice bites the perpetrator in the face!!!!!!!!! Take care~+~precious<*>’cause your worth it~*~best, leah y.
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Way to go Kat. You have done the right thing.You are courageous Kat. Helski
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Thanks Helski. I’ve never seen myself as courageous though. Always saw myself as kind of a wimp, except when it comes to my animals or husband. Maybe I do have more courage than I give myself credit for though? That’s a nice thought, I’m going to have to think on it though. *smiling* (((hugs))) kat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Helsk" <hel…@idl.net.au> wrote in message news:997356368.441298@bigboy… > Way to go Kat. > You have done the right thing.You are courageous Kat. > Helski
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thanks leah. (((hugs))) kat "leahiiawah Yanela" <l…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15903-3B7256DD-121@storefull-126.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Kat, > *********************CHEERS********************* > Glad you’ve got the strength in and out!!!!!!!!!!! > The stalker, hasn’t she ordered to attend for anger management > program??? Ordeal you’d been through from that out of control grandma, > hopefully will get her to sanely accept the consequences she’d put > herself in…and of course, put an end to traumas inflicted to the kids > and to you too… > Thanks to you Kat for helping the abused > grandkids the proper help from the authorities, > they desperately needed…though the vindictive grandma put you to the > tests but your courage, coping strategies put to practice, > wow…never mess up with someone like you, PTSD-surviving woman…that > your fight for justice bites the perpetrator in the face!!!!!!!!! > Take care~+~precious<*>’cause your worth it~*~best, > leah y.
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Hi Rick and kat – Just want to thank you both for your kind words…it really helps, especially at this time of year – the anniversary of my sister’s death is this month, and this is one of my harder times. I really appreciate your support. Hannah
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Hi Hannah, I just wanted to second Rick’s post wholeheartedly. (rick, hope you don’t mind, my brain’s just mushy tonight). ((((((a gentle hug for Hannah)))))) kat "Crafty Bernardo" <craftyberna…@home.com> wrote in message
news:c7hent8ejpn5qlj7d4pq6bhfobja7iepjl@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 12 Aug 2001 16:20:10 -0700, blha…@hotmail.com (Hannah) wrote: > >Hi Rick and kat – > >Just want to thank you both for your kind words…it really helps, > >especially at this time of year – the anniversary of my sister’s death > >is this month, and this is one of my harder times. I really appreciate > >your support. > >Hannah > Hi Hannah, > No problem, friends should be good for something 
Please don’t > hesitate to post any requests that you may have during this extra > trying time. We will do whatever we can to rise to the occasion. > Remember that you are well thought of and that while we can’t feel > what it is like for you, we do know how the bad times do feel. Please > feel free to ask for anything you need, any extra support. I hope you > feel safe enough to let us know and don’t forget to use email also. > Good luck with the difficult situation that is at hand. I, for one, do > care about how you are doing. > Best, > Rick
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hello hannah…i’ll include you in my prayers, your hurting soul touch me indeed… peace~+~love~*~healing<*>precious child of god…goodness in you, strength, kindness… inspired us all here_(((xv)))_hugs~victorious!!!!! leah y.
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Hi all – I am genuinely moved by your supportive posts…it’s so much my norm to be told "get over it", or to be asked "aren’t you over that yet?",that it gives me a strange but great feeling to feel your support. Honestly, I haven’t known this feeling before, and it goes deep. Thank you all. Hannah
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Dear Hannah, If they’d actually LIVED through what you had, maybe then they could understand how phrases like that can slice to the bone. Know we’re all with you in spirit Hannah. And remember, you don’t have to go through the hard times alone anymore, you know? (saying that gently, quietly) There’s a lot of people here who care about you and DO understand. Your trauma, specifically, I don’t know(?), but still, we understand the pain of PTSD and we WANT to help. That’s the difference between friends and acquaintances in my book. Friends run TO you when you need them, acquaintances run AWAY. I’ll be praying for you too. Hugs, kat "Hannah" <blha…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9fbd6ce.0108141442.4111b7a6@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all – > I am genuinely moved by your supportive posts…it’s so much my norm > to be told "get over it", or to be asked "aren’t you over that > yet?",that it gives me a strange but great feeling to feel your > support. Honestly, I haven’t known this feeling before, and it goes > deep. > Thank you all. > Hannah
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Hannah My bset wishes for you.:-) helski
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Hey, helski, thanks for your support. How are things going with you? Hannah
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Thank you for sharing this with us, it must have been hard for you. It shows how much courage you have, you saw a problem addressed it, then talked about it and some of your past. You did the right thing for the right reasons, my hat is off to you. Richard "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9ks2d9$3gdu$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Kris, Everybody, > I’m home. The judge granted the PPO. I just didn’t look at her at all. > The kids’ caseworker was there with me. When she arrived, I was > hyperventilating, but she’s so good, she was like, look at this old > woodwork, what do you think, asking me things to distract me, get me to calm > down. She’s so nice. I’m so GLAD the kids have her for their caseworker. > I forgot to tell the judge about her turning Kevin in for sexual abuse. > (She called me the day after I turned them in and told me she was going to > turn him in and see how I liked it, having my husband turned in for abuse). > I forgot to tell him that. I was so nervous, but I did remember to tell him > that they’ve already arrested her on an aggravated stalking charge, and that > the sheriff’s deputy talked to her at 8:44 a.m. on a Monday, told her to > leave me alone, and at 10:00 a.m. she was beating on my door. Forgot to > tell him that she’s called me since she was arrested too, but he got the > gist of it. I just told him I turned them in for child abuse, and he asked > if I recognized her voice on the phone. I told him most of the time she > doesn’t talk, but the two messages she left on the machine, I gave a copy of > that to the deputy. And that yes, I recognized her voice and so did the > deputy. > I’m so glad it’s over. But you want to know something sad? She’s > apparently stalking the kids too, because I heard the kids caseworker lean > back and ask the girl from the prosecutor’s office how she could get one for > the kids because of this woman. Like those kids haven’t been through enough > already. God, I’m just so glad the kids aren’t with them anymore. Just so > very glad. Did I tell you guys the kids were made permanent wards of the > state? So she’ll never get them back. And the kids are all in counseling > (they should have been 6 years ago when their dad murdered that little girl, > and the boy witnessed the murder, the youngest girl found the body the next > morning). But at least they’re getting help now. The one girl’s doing > really good, she has Tourette’s Syndrome, and it’s almost all gone since > they pulled her from them. They are all, according to the caseworker, > "doing remarkably well, all considered". A friend of mine asked her about > her spasming, twitching and grunting, "you’re not twitching anymore honey?" > The girl shrugged her shoulders, grinned and said, "No, I’m not nervous > anymore." > Thanks everyone!!!!! What you said Kris, about getting involved. Thanks. > That’s why I did, because no one could be bothered to get involved with us > or try to intervene when WE were kids. When my husband didn’t want me to > report it, I was just screaming at him, how COULD you not want to get > involved, when you know FIRSTHAND the effects something like this can > have?!!! @!#$%%^!#@ He slept on the couch for a couple days over that. > LOL! > Talk about being in the doghouse…..Shew! He definitely was. : ) > Anyway, I’m okay now. Feel a lot better, now that its over with. : ) > YAY!!!! > kat > "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message > news:20010808132504.06630.00000766@mb-fc.aol.com… > > Figuring the time difference Kat, I’m praying for you now. Confrontation > is a > > very scary thing for me when its in the flesh. I can only imagine how > > anxiety-ridden you must be. I hope the Kaopectate worked! > > Getting the PPO should not be a problem and it sounds like she has backed > off > > (from lack of posts about her coming around again.) It will be okay. You > did > > those kids a favor that nobody did you or me. You’re a hero Kat. > > Kristine > > If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, > they > > become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure > to > > become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Figuring the time difference Kat, I’m praying for you now. Confrontation is a very scary thing for me when its in the flesh. I can only imagine how anxiety-ridden you must be. I hope the Kaopectate worked! Getting the PPO should not be a problem and it sounds like she has backed off (from lack of posts about her coming around again.) It will be okay. You did those kids a favor that nobody did you or me. You’re a hero Kat. Kristine If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Kris, Everybody, I’m home. The judge granted the PPO. I just didn’t look at her at all. The kids’ caseworker was there with me. When she arrived, I was hyperventilating, but she’s so good, she was like, look at this old woodwork, what do you think, asking me things to distract me, get me to calm down. She’s so nice. I’m so GLAD the kids have her for their caseworker. I forgot to tell the judge about her turning Kevin in for sexual abuse. (She called me the day after I turned them in and told me she was going to turn him in and see how I liked it, having my husband turned in for abuse). I forgot to tell him that. I was so nervous, but I did remember to tell him that they’ve already arrested her on an aggravated stalking charge, and that the sheriff’s deputy talked to her at 8:44 a.m. on a Monday, told her to leave me alone, and at 10:00 a.m. she was beating on my door. Forgot to tell him that she’s called me since she was arrested too, but he got the gist of it. I just told him I turned them in for child abuse, and he asked if I recognized her voice on the phone. I told him most of the time she doesn’t talk, but the two messages she left on the machine, I gave a copy of that to the deputy. And that yes, I recognized her voice and so did the deputy. I’m so glad it’s over. But you want to know something sad? She’s apparently stalking the kids too, because I heard the kids caseworker lean back and ask the girl from the prosecutor’s office how she could get one for the kids because of this woman. Like those kids haven’t been through enough already. God, I’m just so glad the kids aren’t with them anymore. Just so very glad. Did I tell you guys the kids were made permanent wards of the state? So she’ll never get them back. And the kids are all in counseling (they should have been 6 years ago when their dad murdered that little girl, and the boy witnessed the murder, the youngest girl found the body the next morning). But at least they’re getting help now. The one girl’s doing really good, she has Tourette’s Syndrome, and it’s almost all gone since they pulled her from them. They are all, according to the caseworker, "doing remarkably well, all considered". A friend of mine asked her about her spasming, twitching and grunting, "you’re not twitching anymore honey?" The girl shrugged her shoulders, grinned and said, "No, I’m not nervous anymore." Thanks everyone!!!!! What you said Kris, about getting involved. Thanks. That’s why I did, because no one could be bothered to get involved with us or try to intervene when WE were kids. When my husband didn’t want me to report it, I was just screaming at him, how COULD you not want to get involved, when you know FIRSTHAND the effects something like this can have?!!! @!#$%%^!#@ He slept on the couch for a couple days over that. LOL! Talk about being in the doghouse…..Shew! He definitely was. : ) Anyway, I’m okay now. Feel a lot better, now that its over with. : ) YAY!!!! kat "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010808132504.06630.00000766@mb-fc.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Figuring the time difference Kat, I’m praying for you now. Confrontation is a > very scary thing for me when its in the flesh. I can only imagine how > anxiety-ridden you must be. I hope the Kaopectate worked! > Getting the PPO should not be a problem and it sounds like she has backed off > (from lack of posts about her coming around again.) It will be okay. You did > those kids a favor that nobody did you or me. You’re a hero Kat. > Kristine > If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they > become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to > become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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Well, I guess I’ll find out tomorrow whether or not they’ll give me a PPO. I hope so. The kids caseworker offered to be there for moral support, I hope she does come. I don’t know about this. The courthouse doesn’t have gun detectors, and she’s just crazy enough it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she tried to bring in a weapon. I wouldn’t put it past her. I’m very on edge, very apprehensive. My stomach hurts, my head hurts, just want to curl up in a ball and go away somewhere. Maybe I’ll clear out a spot in my closet and sleep in there tonight. That usually helps. Wish me luck guys.
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Hey, kat – All the best tomorrow, I sure hope you get through it all okay. I’ve always liked the idea/analogy of us all being warriors – and despite the obstacles, we seem to make it through the worst of odds. I know this whole situation takes a huge toll on you, kat, but what you’re doing sure makes a positive difference, and takes all the qualities of a warrior. Even so, it’s hard to step in, isn’t it…sometimes, when I’m okay enough, when I hear of murders in my area, I visit the families to maybe offer them hope that someone else has been there and survived it – but it’s hard. You make a difference, and your courage is inspiring. I just hope you’re okay during and on the other side of it. Take care, kat. Hannah
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everything is going to be fine, Kat, I know it will "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9kq97l$13gi$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I guess I’ll find out tomorrow whether or not they’ll give me a PPO. > I hope so. The kids caseworker offered to be there for moral support, I > hope she does come. > I don’t know about this. The courthouse doesn’t have gun detectors, and > she’s just crazy enough it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she tried to > bring in a weapon. I wouldn’t put it past her. I’m very on edge, very > apprehensive. My stomach hurts, my head hurts, just want to curl up in a > ball and go away somewhere. Maybe I’ll clear out a spot in my closet and > sleep in there tonight. That usually helps. > Wish me luck guys.
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Best of luck! Helski
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Hi Kat! > Well, I guess I’ll find out tomorrow whether or not they’ll give me a PPO.
Trust the process. You will do fine. It’s in your Higher Power’s hands; let her decide. > The courthouse doesn’t have gun detectors, and > she’s just crazy enough it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she tried to > bring in a weapon. I wouldn’t put it past her. I’m very on edge, very > apprehensive. My stomach hurts, my head hurts, just want to curl up in a > ball and go away somewhere. Maybe I’ll clear out a spot in my closet and > sleep in there tonight. That usually helps.
The bailiff usually is armed against someone like you imagine. Have you shared your concerns with the prosecuter and your friendly State Police? They can do something to insure the Court’s safety much better than you. :/ Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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I feel very scattered right now. Bad night, nightterrors all night. Rapes, death, murder. Horrible. When this is all over with, I’m going to come home and sleep. Thanks you guys, for all your support. It means a lot to me. Got the screamers this morning–I sort of am laughing about that aspect of it all, cuz I remember what Nancy said her therapist would say to her, about getting all of it out of her. Well, Nancy, I joined your group this morning. Take a couple anti-diarrhea pills, a valium, and off I go. A friend (who’s like family) is going with me this morning. He’ll be here soon, so I need to get going. Just wanted to thank you guys for your support. The hearing’s at 1:00. Ahhhhh……. : ( Will post how it went when I get home. kat "Kat" <kathi…@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:9kq97l$13gi$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I guess I’ll find out tomorrow whether or not they’ll give me a PPO. > I hope so. The kids caseworker offered to be there for moral support, I > hope she does come. > I don’t know about this. The courthouse doesn’t have gun detectors, and > she’s just crazy enough it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she tried to > bring in a weapon. I wouldn’t put it past her. I’m very on edge, very > apprehensive. My stomach hurts, my head hurts, just want to curl up in a > ball and go away somewhere. Maybe I’ll clear out a spot in my closet and > sleep in there tonight. That usually helps. > Wish me luck guys.
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Don’t know if you’re familiar with gun laws in your state but you could open carry your own gun (perhaps not allowed in state building – definitely not allowed in fed bldg.) or you could carry concealed. I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, just one packer to another. You’ll be okay Kat, facing the dragon always singes a bit but you won’t be devoured =) K If natural energy and impulses are too severely suppressed for too long, they become violent. It’s natural for something that’s been held under pressure to become violent in its release…Jim Morrison
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