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Well, I would say first relax, though I know it’s difficult. Things are harder in the US in respect of social/public insurance. That it’s a pity, but, then again, a reality you hace to confront. I see that you are well informed and trained on how to deal with those thugs and health mercenaries. That is fantastic, if you think about it: share your knolegde with other people here who’s gettin extorted and ill used by them, That is a broader goal. On the other hand, is there no way by wich you can check a GP or any oher physician BEFORE assiting to them. Surely you can do it. I’ve heard of some Internet pages devoted to that specific proposit. You might even open your own, with that guy first on the black list. You surely can be smarter than this o another doc, but what you need to do (obviously adjusting it to your economic possibilities) is to just stick to one (the least silly of them all) and dialogate with him to end uo with an agree for a treatment of whatever ailment yoou might suffer, The psicological part you can do it yourself, with friends and books at hand -if you are fond of reading- virtually for free, Try to realise what your main problem could be, and agree a provisional solution to it, either with yourself or a doc or even a priest, Whatsoever, stick to it as a dogma for a reasonable while, even if you doubt its rightfulness, It will be plenty of tiime to change your mind once you get better. But do not think that you can go trhough everything alone, historical genius like newton suffered nervous disorders and they could not heal themselves hugely smart as they were. take an example of the well kown Prof. John Forbes Nash Jr., a math crack who suffered from OCD. it’s useful to read its ow autobiography in the Nobel’s Prize web page. he explains a bit, though circumpspiciously, who he managed to control and amelliorate his condition. You can see the movie, as well, i fyou fancy. The point is: being smart, having loads of knoledge about drugs, treatments, anathomy, neurology, whatever it’s not enough to get you better (although comprehension of your state usually helps if you don’t get too obssesed). Everybody knows that psichiatrist and psicologists are as insane as we could be! Ha ha ha! Just be patient, aware of how much time you have laying upon your way. There is no rush and no need to. Consider this trial an opportinity: once you get out, you come out as a more mature an complete person, take that for granted. Be realistic as well, you, or everybody else, could go over the whole thing again once or thrice in your life. So our task is to prepare our minds to confront those difficult situations. once you reach that somhow uthopic state (for we are all humans and these so called ‘illnessness’ are nothing but human reactions) you wouldn’t be afraid no more of yourself and the reactions of your body. Take care Jesus A.D.: … and be nice with the others round here, surely it would be more rewarding and satisfying to you.
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out why. i’ve been nuthin’ but kind ta you, yanno…. and if ya wanna keep that talk up’n walk that hatin’ walk, that’s allllllllll good. but i don’t think ya really dislike me, i know i don’t dislike you. yup, i responded to ya wayyyyyyy outta character just ta maybe letcha know what it feels like ta be busted up on for no apparent reason. it ain’t muh style. so maybe you can decide either WHY ya dislike me and talk to me about it, or decide that maybe ya don’t dislike me. i sure didn’t see yer "outta left field" anger comin’, and i’m all up for considerin’ it’ah "moment". i DO think it’s be in both our best interests ta get along, donchu? after all, we ARE in this thang tagether. ’sup ta you. ya reckon? i sure hope so. ~t
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I was just in a therapist’s office, and she suggested a drug for anxiety that is longer lasting than Xanax, which had little effect on me at my last audition (I am a singer). I thought she said Clonitin or something like it. Any ideas on what it might be?
oh yeah… it was Listerine. i’m sure of it.
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That’s it Tanya. Another key to success (though there is no concept of failure) is to have courage. Better expressed, not to have courage, or to intend intellectually to have it, but to feel it, right just in the mouth of your stomach. And, of course, to presente upon yourself goals and hopes. We are all OK a time ago: the sooner or later we will get back to our former selves, only just being more mature, human, and complete.
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That’s it Tanya. Another key to success (though there is no concept of failure) is to have courage. Better expressed, not to have courage, or to intend intellectually to have it, but to feel it, right just in the mouth of your stomach. And, of course, to presente upon yourself goals and hopes.
well, at this point all i have is the courage to have hope. BUT i’m titratin’ off these damn things now, so i ain’t posting much. it isn’t really my decision, it’s more my plight here in the armpit of the world, Oklahoma. I am not fighting with the doctors or doctor wannabes anymore, i had my last fight less than an hour ago and it’s a long story, but suffice it to say, i would rather go into seizures and DIE than pay that idiot 175 bucks an hour to force me to prove i was smarter than him on my most stupid day than he will ever be on his smartest. he offered me to come in late today, i told him i’d rather run naked with a load of dynamite strapped between my thighs through a Bic factory. Some might say that wasn’t too smart on my part, i say it was motivation. The whole conversation is quite funny when i relate it or tell it to someone else. it wasn’t at the time, and he surely didn’t think so. His ass is going into the AMA and APA archives (probably file 13) via my letter that will probably never be read, and that’s ok too. i can be quite annoying and sometimes i make a dent in my cause just because people want me to shut up. Do you believe they wouldn’t give me his last name when i called his office????? i said "for $175 an hour for a ‘physician’s assistant’, he best be giving me that last hair he has left that’s surely making a beeline for his behind and don’t MAKE me go there and get his license plate # and look him up in public records and fine out where he lives ! so i did. When all’s said and done, he lives 3 blocks from me. how ironic. SUX TA BE HIM. llalalalalalala anyway, i’m gettin’ off the blues now. it’s been 2 days. i’m very glad i’m not a terrorist. i wish i didn’t know where GIL TORRES lives. i gotta hankerin’ ta go see’f he’s got any home’grown tomatoes. GOD BLESS AMERICA ! ~t – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are all OK a time ago: the sooner or later we will get back to our former selves, only just being more mature, human, and complete.
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Hi everyone: I would suggest two things on this thread: First: we all should remember BZ’s,tranquilizers, antidepressants… chems in general, are only aids, not definitive cures.
they might not be cures, but for me, they’re total and complete relief. i figure if god made the guy that made the things, they’re as viable as insulin to a diabetic and i’m NOT going to discontinue their use until i get in the mood to eliminate another of my 8 medications. my last medication, in fact. i’ve done all the work to know myself, from whence i come, from where my disorders originate, etc. my therapy is done, in the big picture. panic disorder is not an "issue" for me, but an illness. It is an illness I will conquer when I get in the mood. I’m pretty worn out from conquering the others, and I still have a way to go in the "taking on another challenge" arena. I’m going to get my life re-established in the "creative" and "financial" environent before i take on panic. and I’m going to take on the psychiatric community and the medical community in synchronization with my next career move. I just HAVE to have a soap box, you know? <wink They work for a while, but in the meantime it is useful to try (not that you MUST) to solve or undersstand the underlying problem which is leading us to take them.
My panic is physical, and inherited. The way to my salvation from it requires a total lifestyle change that I am not ready for yet. In the meantime, I’m going to eat benzos for breakfast, lunch, supper, and possibly "high tea". I know it is easy to say and pretty difficult to do (I do take a pretty amount of valium myself), but through my own experiencie I would positively say it is the only way to go. Please, don’t take this assesment wrong: DON’T DISCONTINUE bz’s or whatever chem you are in abrutously. There is no need to, and sometimes they are the best solution possible until circumstances change.
WOW ! You just said what I said, with much more flair. thank you. Most people don’t understand me or care to, and discount me incredibly. I look at that, because I look at everything that effects my life. by the same token, i totally understand what it is going to take to put the bullet in this last little slice of hell, and I will do so…. in time. Thanks, Dr. Love ! ~tanya
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I was just in a therapist’s office, and she suggested a drug for anxiety that is longer lasting than Xanax, which had little effect on me at my last audition (I am a singer). I thought she said Clonitin or something like it. Any ideas on what it might be?
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Could it have been Klonopin (generic Clonazepam)? smiles, Elise
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It’s the same thing I was just prescribed since my Xanax doesn’t last as long. It’s called Klonopin……and the generic is something with a C…it’s supposed to last 12 hours in your system. Read my post titled Question for Gary. By the way, it has helped me so much I’ve never felt this good in a very long time. I am much calmer with my kids, one of which has extreme ADHD and ODD and is only 6 1/2 years old. I’m just a much "nicer" person to be around now. Good luck.
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I was just in a therapist’s office, and she suggested a drug for anxiety that is longer lasting than Xanax, which had little effect on me at my last audition (I am a singer). I thought she said Clonitin or something like it. Any ideas on what it might be?
I’m sure you mean Klonopin, a long acxting Benzodiazepine (whereas Xanax is a short acting one – although we now have Xanax XR which works for a long time). Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Klonopin, Aka, in my area of the world, is Rivotril. But in my experience over the last 10 years, it IS stronger. I haven’t been prescribed it since I was 15. When I needed an anti-anxiety, they would not even consider Rivotril. I am 30 now. My husband has been prescribed Rivotril daily and Ativan as needed for his OCD, just last week as they are now looking for how to treat his PTSD (from the shit I put him through with my borderline personality disorder over the last 12 years).
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My husband has been prescribed Rivotril daily and Ativan as needed for his OCD, just last week as they are now looking for how to treat his PTSD (from the shit I put him through with my borderline personality disorder over the last 12 years).
that makes sense. sucking another into your average, mediocre life. blame yer borderline personality, whadda cop-out. oooooooooooooooooooh sister, let’s go down, let’s go down, c’mon down.. OOOOOOOOOH SISTER, LET’S GO DOWN….. down to tha river’n pray. <samoooooooooochalaaaaaaaaaAAALALALALAAAAAA
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Hi everyone: I would suggest two things on this thread: First: we all should remember BZ’s,tranquilizers, antidepressants… chems in general, are only aids, not definitive cures. They work for a while, but in the meantime it is useful to try (not that you MUST) to solve or undersstand the underlying problem which is leading us to take them. I know it is easy to say and pretty difficult to do (I do take a pretty amount of valium myself), but through my own experiencie I would positively say it is the only way to go. Please, don’t take this assesment wrong: DON’T DISCONTINUE bz’s or whatever chem you are in abrutously. There is no need to, and sometimes they are the best solution possible until circumstances change. Second: for a detailed information about BZ’s, the best source is undoubtely the Asthon Manual, located at http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm Simple, easy to read info about almost every family of benzodiacepinic mollecules are there, as well as a pretty handy table with their half life and the lasting of their different metabolites on your body, and an aproximated compared equivalence dosage between them (but remember it is only aproximated, and every single chemical mollecule, even belonging to the same family has a wide different objective and subjective effects on yoour body, so do not switch randomly without medical advise). There are too, serious and scientifical guidelines in case you wish to withdraw or reduce dosages.
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