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I’m not crazy about the fact that kids carry guns either–I merely acknowledge it as a reality. As there is no law that protects anyone any more, some become sufficiently desperate that they make their own. I cannot condemn them for doing so. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -bobwhelan wrote: > "Dave" <johng…@cpinternet.com> wrote in message > news:3B984D5D.F49EA9E3@cpinternet.com… > > That bullies do not respond to reason is borne out in part by that > peculiar > > modern phenomenon, the "school shooting". The usual progression is: 1. > kid gets > > picked on 2. alleged authority figures do not protect him. 3. bullying > gets > > worse. 4. picked-on kid gets depressed. 5. picked on kid’s parents take > him to > > a psychiatrist, who puts him on antidepressants. 6. kid on > antidepressants, his > > anger multiplied by the drugs and his inhibitions lowered by same, gets > hold of a > > gun and shoots someone, hopefully the bullies. > > Whenever I read a story about a "school shooting", I find myself hoping > that the > > kid at least got his tormentors. If not, I wonder if they would be so > bold if > > they knew the next kid they picked on might be packing heat. "School > shooters" > > are not heinous criminals–they are people who, in desperation, have > realized > > that one can only deal with a bully by trading in his own currency. > School > > officials will not help the kid, nor will the police, nor will his > parents. > > Perhaps we should start applauding those desperate kids–given enough of > them, > > society might eventually get the message and start behaving itself. > > "An armed society is a polite society" –Robert Heinlein > I certainly dont agree with kids going to school "packing heat" but you make > a very good point Dave.. > The key factor is the authorities willingness to turn a blind eye and > failing to deal with the situation. > regards, > Bob > > Linda wrote: > > > Have you actually TRIED ignoring them? Maybe they WILL go away if you > > > do. > > > Linda > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:20:29 -0700, "EveryoneAndHerSis" > > > <Depressedi@DealWithIT> wrote: > > > >SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message > > > >news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… > > > >> My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. > > > >> The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. > > > >> Carrie > > > >Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… > > > >I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you > are > > > >not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep > at…it… > > > >NO WIN situation…… > > > >While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they > turn it > > > >on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so > they > > > >criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . > > > >Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you > > > >stronger.. > > > >I guess… > > — > > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions > of > > absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
– "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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I just wanted to let you know that I’m a bully, but I don’t bully with guns, I bully with my eyes. That way no one can prove that I did anything. Very truly yours, Chris
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This is a sure way to F-up a post. U have a thread running, regardless of the topic, yet anyone who replies 2 the thread is having their reply cross-posted to the following NG’s: alt.flame.psychiatry,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression.me d ication,alt.support.trauma-ptsd,soc.culture.usa,soc.support.depression.mani c . SIX other NG’s!!! GREAT way 2 spread your personal problems around, nes pas? And folks cry ‘Bully" when they R blatantly supporting crossposting subjects or replies. I trimmed the header of this post so it will only appear where I want it: alt.support.trauma-ptsd. If U have something 2 say to this group, knock yourself out. If you are SO chicken-shit that U need to involve multiple NG’s then let’s make it real interesting and let’s say start crossposting to alt.sex.pedophile.pictures or another ‘fun’ NG. They’re out there and just waiting to pounce. IDIOTS! Loner — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 – Release Date: 9/5/01
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I agree with you Dave. It’s a sad state of affairs, but I think you describe the case of "bullying" accurately. Ironically, the people who could protect kids against this behaviour, are IMHO, people who are afraid of being bullied but others in the hierarchy of power. We just don’t have a society of Winston Churchill clones; it is a sad fact that the scum also rises. That’s why we have laws. Squiggles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dave wrote: > That bullies do not respond to reason is borne out in part by that peculiar > modern phenomenon, the "school shooting". The usual progression is: 1. kid gets > picked on 2. alleged authority figures do not protect him. 3. bullying gets > worse. 4. picked-on kid gets depressed. 5. picked on kid’s parents take him to > a psychiatrist, who puts him on antidepressants. 6. kid on antidepressants, his > anger multiplied by the drugs and his inhibitions lowered by same, gets hold of a > gun and shoots someone, hopefully the bullies. > Whenever I read a story about a "school shooting", I find myself hoping that the > kid at least got his tormentors. If not, I wonder if they would be so bold if > they knew the next kid they picked on might be packing heat. "School shooters" > are not heinous criminals–they are people who, in desperation, have realized > that one can only deal with a bully by trading in his own currency. School > officials will not help the kid, nor will the police, nor will his parents. > Perhaps we should start applauding those desperate kids–given enough of them, > society might eventually get the message and start behaving itself. > "An armed society is a polite society" –Robert Heinlein > Linda wrote: > > Have you actually TRIED ignoring them? Maybe they WILL go away if you > > do. > > Linda > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:20:29 -0700, "EveryoneAndHerSis" > > <Depressedi@DealWithIT> wrote: > > >SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message > > >news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… > > >> My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. > > >> The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. > > >> Carrie > > >Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… > > >I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you are > > >not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep at…it… > > >NO WIN situation…… > > >While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they turn it > > >on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so they > > >criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . > > >Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you > > >stronger.. > > >I guess… > — > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of > absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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’Squiggles’ also likes cross posting or hasn’t figured out how to trim a header. That’s the To: part in case U R confused. I am sure the folks in the NG’s below are avid followers of this thread gone wild. alt.flame.psychiatry,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression.me d ication,alt.support.trauma-ptsd,soc.culture.usa,soc.support.depression.mani c . Maybe we should rename this NG alt.crossposting.fools Regards, Loner — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 – Release Date: 9/5/01
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This crosspost was brought to you by Linda Gore aka MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs aka SayNotoBully’s aka Marie Harms of Las Vegas, Nevada. On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:50:28 -0700, "MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<FightingForSanity@AmongstDrugJunkies> wrote: >Bullying Studies >Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? >Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental disorder? >One option is the >Antisocial Personality Disorder >Here is the checklist according to TWD: >It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of the rights of, >others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: >deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning others for >personal pleasure, or >irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated assaults or >conflicts, or >reckless disregard for the safety of others, or >lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt or >mistreated another person, or >repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or >Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record of similar >behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and not be >schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above behaviors). >There you have it!! >Another bully-related option might be the >Narcissistic Personality Disorder >Here is the checklist, according to TWD: >The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or >behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as indicated by 5 or >more of the following: >believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only be understood >by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or >institutions), or >has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially >favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations >(e.g., subservience by others), or >is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to achieve her or >his own ends, or >lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and >needs of others, or >shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or >has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates achievements and >talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning it, or >is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or brilliance, or >is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of her or >him, or >requires excessive admiration. >Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? >[These checklists are modifications of the original criteria from the DSM-IV >(Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, American Psychiatric >Association)] >Return to the top
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My father always told me that I shoud stand up to bullies. I always said "but they’ll hit me". He replied: "then hit them back". ’Nuff said. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs wrote: > Bullying Studies > Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? > Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental disorder? > One option is the > Antisocial Personality Disorder > Here is the checklist according to TWD: > It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of the rights of, > others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: > deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning others for > personal pleasure, or > irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated assaults or > conflicts, or > reckless disregard for the safety of others, or > lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt or > mistreated another person, or > repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or > Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record of similar > behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and not be > schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above behaviors). > There you have it!! > Another bully-related option might be the > Narcissistic Personality Disorder > Here is the checklist, according to TWD: > The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or > behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as indicated by 5 or > more of the following: > believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only be understood > by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or > institutions), or > has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially > favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations > (e.g., subservience by others), or > is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to achieve her or > his own ends, or > lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and > needs of others, or > shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or > has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates achievements and > talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning it, or > is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or brilliance, or > is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of her or > him, or > requires excessive admiration. > Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? > [These checklists are modifications of the original criteria from the DSM-IV > (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, American Psychiatric > Association)] > Return to the top
– "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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Dave <johng…@cpinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3B970137.8131DB8E@cpinternet.com… > My father always told me that I shoud stand up to bullies. I always said "but > they’ll hit me". He replied: "then hit them back". ’Nuff said.
What the bullies do when you hit em back? Run crying to Nanny? Around these parts when you oppose a bullys attacks, "hit back" they all run crying like a baby to YOUR ISP! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs wrote: > > Bullying Studies > > Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? > > Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental disorder? > > One option is the > > Antisocial Personality Disorder > > Here is the checklist according to TWD: > > It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of the rights of, > > others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: > > deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning others for > > personal pleasure, or > > irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated assaults or > > conflicts, or > > reckless disregard for the safety of others, or > > lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt or > > mistreated another person, or > > repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or > > Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record of similar > > behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and not be > > schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above behaviors). > > There you have it!! > > Another bully-related option might be the > > Narcissistic Personality Disorder > > Here is the checklist, according to TWD: > > The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or > > behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as indicated by 5 or > > more of the following: > > believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only be understood > > by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or > > institutions), or > > has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially > > favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations > > (e.g., subservience by others), or > > is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to achieve her or > > his own ends, or > > lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and > > needs of others, or > > shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or > > has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates achievements and > > talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning it, or > > is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or brilliance, or > > is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of her or > > him, or > > requires excessive admiration. > > Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? > > [These checklists are modifications of the original criteria from the DSM-IV > > (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, American Psychiatric > > Association)] > > Return to the top > — > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of > absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. Carrie "Dave" <johng…@cpinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3B970137.8131DB8E@cpinternet.com… : My father always told me that I shoud stand up to bullies. I always said "but : they’ll hit me". He replied: "then hit them back". ’Nuff said. : : MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs wrote:
: : > Bullying Studies : > Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? : > Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental disorder? : > : > One option is the : > : > Antisocial Personality Disorder : > : > Here is the checklist according to TWD: : > : > It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of the rights of, : > others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: : > : > deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning others for : > personal pleasure, or : > : > irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated assaults or : > conflicts, or : > : > reckless disregard for the safety of others, or : > : > lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt or : > mistreated another person, or : > : > repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or : > Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record of similar : > behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and not be : > schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above behaviors). : > : > There you have it!! : > : > Another bully-related option might be the : > : > Narcissistic Personality Disorder : > : > Here is the checklist, according to TWD: : > : > The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or : > behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as indicated by 5 or : > more of the following: : > : > believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only be understood : > by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or : > institutions), or : > : > has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially : > favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations : > (e.g., subservience by others), or : > : > is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to achieve her or : > his own ends, or : > : > lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and : > needs of others, or : > : > shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or : > : > has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates achievements and : > talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning it, or : > : > is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or brilliance, or : > : > is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of her or : > him, or : > : > requires excessive admiration. : > Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? : > : > [These checklists are modifications of the original criteria from the DSM-IV : > (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, American Psychiatric : > Association)] : > : > Return to the top : : — : "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of : absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House : :
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That bullies do not respond to reason is borne out in part by that peculiar modern phenomenon, the "school shooting". The usual progression is: 1. kid gets picked on 2. alleged authority figures do not protect him. 3. bullying gets worse. 4. picked-on kid gets depressed. 5. picked on kid’s parents take him to a psychiatrist, who puts him on antidepressants. 6. kid on antidepressants, his anger multiplied by the drugs and his inhibitions lowered by same, gets hold of a gun and shoots someone, hopefully the bullies. Whenever I read a story about a "school shooting", I find myself hoping that the kid at least got his tormentors. If not, I wonder if they would be so bold if they knew the next kid they picked on might be packing heat. "School shooters" are not heinous criminals–they are people who, in desperation, have realized that one can only deal with a bully by trading in his own currency. School officials will not help the kid, nor will the police, nor will his parents. Perhaps we should start applauding those desperate kids–given enough of them, society might eventually get the message and start behaving itself. "An armed society is a polite society" –Robert Heinlein – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Linda wrote: > Have you actually TRIED ignoring them? Maybe they WILL go away if you > do. > Linda > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:20:29 -0700, "EveryoneAndHerSis" > <Depressedi@DealWithIT> wrote: > >SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message > >news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… > >> My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. > >> The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. > >> Carrie > >Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… > >I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you are > >not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep at…it… > >NO WIN situation…… > >While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they turn it > >on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so they > >criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . > >Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you > >stronger.. > >I guess…
– "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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Bullying Studies Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental disorder? One option is the Antisocial Personality Disorder Here is the checklist according to TWD: It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of the rights of, others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning others for personal pleasure, or irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated assaults or conflicts, or reckless disregard for the safety of others, or lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt or mistreated another person, or repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record of similar behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and not be schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above behaviors). There you have it!! Another bully-related option might be the Narcissistic Personality Disorder Here is the checklist, according to TWD: The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as indicated by 5 or more of the following: believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions), or has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations (e.g., subservience by others), or is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to achieve her or his own ends, or lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others, or shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning it, or is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or brilliance, or is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of her or him, or requires excessive admiration. Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? [These checklists are modifications of the original criteria from the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, American Psychiatric Association)] Return to the top
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"Dave" <johng…@cpinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3B984D5D.F49EA9E3@cpinternet.com… > That bullies do not respond to reason is borne out in part by that peculiar > modern phenomenon, the "school shooting". The usual progression is: 1. kid gets > picked on 2. alleged authority figures do not protect him. 3. bullying gets > worse. 4. picked-on kid gets depressed. 5. picked on kid’s parents take him to > a psychiatrist, who puts him on antidepressants. 6. kid on
antidepressants, his – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> anger multiplied by the drugs and his inhibitions lowered by same, gets hold of a > gun and shoots someone, hopefully the bullies. > Whenever I read a story about a "school shooting", I find myself hoping that the > kid at least got his tormentors. If not, I wonder if they would be so bold if > they knew the next kid they picked on might be packing heat. "School shooters" > are not heinous criminals–they are people who, in desperation, have realized > that one can only deal with a bully by trading in his own currency. School > officials will not help the kid, nor will the police, nor will his parents. > Perhaps we should start applauding those desperate kids–given enough of them, > society might eventually get the message and start behaving itself. > "An armed society is a polite society" –Robert Heinlein
I certainly dont agree with kids going to school "packing heat" but you make a very good point Dave.. The key factor is the authorities willingness to turn a blind eye and failing to deal with the situation. regards, Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Linda wrote: > > Have you actually TRIED ignoring them? Maybe they WILL go away if you > > do. > > Linda > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:20:29 -0700, "EveryoneAndHerSis" > > <Depressedi@DealWithIT> wrote: > > >SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message > > >news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… > > >> My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. > > >> The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. > > >> Carrie > > >Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… > > >I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you are > > >not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep at…it… > > >NO WIN situation…… > > >While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they turn it > > >on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so they > > >criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . > > >Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you > > >stronger.. > > >I guess… > — > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of > absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House
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Have you actually TRIED ignoring them? Maybe they WILL go away if you do. Linda On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:20:29 -0700, "EveryoneAndHerSis" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<Depressedi@DealWithIT> wrote: >SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message >news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… >> My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. >> The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. >> Carrie >Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… >I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you are >not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep at…it… >NO WIN situation…… >While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they turn it >on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so they >criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . >Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you >stronger.. >I guess…
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SpaceBar <GetOutOfMy…@home.com> wrote in message
news:KuEl7.133747$7h.24078202@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com… > My mother and father told me to ignore them. They will go away. > The punched me out for 3 years using that advice. > Carrie
Damned if you do, damned if you dont in these parts… I f you hit back, youre encouraging them….. if you ignore thme, you are not standing up for yourself…so of course their going to keep at…it… NO WIN situation…… While no one ever wants to criticises the bullies behavior lest they turn it on themm like they do….but they want to criticise the situation so they criticise your response, no matter what your response IS! . Nietsche or some nihilistic said, whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger.. I guess… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Dave" <johng…@cpinternet.com> wrote in message > news:3B970137.8131DB8E@cpinternet.com… > : My father always told me that I shoud stand up to bullies. I > always said "but > : they’ll hit me". He replied: "then hit them back". ’Nuff > said. > : > : MotherAgainstDrunks/Druggies/Dregs wrote: > : > : > Bullying Studies > : > Is the Bully in Your Life Mentally Disordered? > : > Does the Bully in your life have a certifiable mental > disorder? > : > > : > One option is the > : > > : > Antisocial Personality Disorder > : > > : > Here is the checklist according to TWD: > : > > : > It is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of > the rights of, > : > others as indicated by 3 or more of the following: > : > > : > deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, or conning > others for > : > personal pleasure, or > : > > : > irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated > assaults or > : > conflicts, or > : > > : > reckless disregard for the safety of others, or > : > > : > lack of remorse, being indifferent to or rationalizing having > hurt or > : > mistreated another person, or > : > > : > repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest, or > : > Additionally, the person must be over 18, have had a record > of similar > : > behaviors before the age of 15 (been a childhood bully), and > not be > : > schizophrenic (which would account for some of the above > behaviors). > : > > : > There you have it!! > : > > : > Another bully-related option might be the > : > > : > Narcissistic Personality Disorder > : > > : > Here is the checklist, according to TWD: > : > > : > The Narcissist exhibits a pervasive pattern of grandiosity > (in fantasy or > : > behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, as > indicated by 5 or > : > more of the following: > : > > : > believes that she or he is "special" and unique and can only > be understood > : > by, or should associate with, other special or high-status > people (or > : > institutions), or > : > > : > has a sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of > especially > : > favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her > expectations > : > (e.g., subservience by others), or > : > > : > is interpersonally exploitative, takes advantage of others to > achieve her or > : > his own ends, or > : > > : > lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the > feelings and > : > needs of others, or > : > > : > shows arrogant attitudes or behaviors, or > : > > : > has a grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates > achievements and > : > talents, expects to be recognized as superior without earning > it, or > : > > : > is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power or > brilliance, or > : > > : > is often envious of others or believes that others are > envious of her or > : > him, or > : > > : > requires excessive admiration. > : > Sound like any ceo’s you know or have read about? > : > > : > [These checklists are modifications of the original criteria > from the DSM-IV > : > (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, > American Psychiatric > : > Association)] > : > > : > Return to the top > : > : — > : "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under > conditions of > : absolute reality" –Shirley Jackson, The Haunting Of Hill House > : > :
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