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I’m looking for a book which discusses the effects of trauma caused by repeated familial events … such as sickness, arguements etc …over long time periods. It would be cool if the information is geared to the lay person. Any information that addresses the effects of repeated traumatic events … as opposed to one time traumatic events (such as assult) … is most welcome as well. Thanks for your time, Ken Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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In article <8ljud5$dk…@nnrp1.deja.com>, Pizza Ken <kcblan…@earthlink.net> wrote: > I’m looking for a book which discusses the effects of trauma caused by > repeated familial events … such as sickness, arguements etc …over > long time periods. It would be cool if the information is geared to the > lay person. Any information that addresses the effects of repeated > traumatic events … as opposed to one time traumatic events (such as > assult) … is most welcome as well. > Thanks for your time, > Ken > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
I would like some URL’s for websites on the same subject, please. Thanks. Iris756 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Here are some good sites that have tons of links to other sites: http://www.trauma-pages.com/index.phtml http://www.ptsd.com/ http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/PTSD/ The third site is an interesting one on the effects of bullying which can relate to other situations such as workplace harassment and other ‘long term’ trauma. . ———————————————————– Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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Bradshaw has some very good books out that are easy to read, and understand… One is called "The Homecomming" another of his is on "The Family" not sure if that is the title though. but his books are very popular. And all book stores carry them. He has several other books out also.
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In article <8p1tk3$u0…@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>, "carole" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<wannada…@mindspring.com> wrote: >i think that judith herman is the best writer around on the subject of >’trauma and recovery’. i have read everything of hers that i can get my >hands on. >if we wanted to start a separate listserv for those severely traumatized by >family groups (that enemy instead of a war enemy), i’d be up for it. on the >other hand, trauma is trauma and pain is pain. no matter where we got it, i >bet we all have in common the same set of fears and patterns and adult >dysfunctions: anxiety, isolation, nightmares, flashbacks, physical ills of >several descriptions, like migraine and gut trouble and fibromyalgia or >arthritis (what the body cannot rid itself of, it stores and tries to >process out, isn’t this the thinking? she says as she reaches for the >immodium and the midrin and the ativan…). >anyway, the mechanism is the same, i bet: helplessness, captivity and loss >of bodily integrity or control, infliction of pain, the usual. >horrible night at work, as my words may reflect. i am sorry if this brings >anyone down. don’t understand the limits that are acceptable here, being, as >i am, new to the group. the constant depression and anxiety seem hydraulic >to me: i punch them down here (ah, no nightmares in a week) and they pop up >over here (ayeeee, now i got the constant runs..) ech. >demoralized at the moment, >carole, who wishes she *knew* judith herman…
what other stuff has she written?, i would be especially interested in anything *after* "trauma and recovery" (in other words work since then, carrying it forward and even in a new direction rather than what provides the background for t and r in the first place). yes i agree the symptoms may be identical but the causes are different. thus we can certainly share our experience of the former but the latter may have wide divergences. It was just a suggestion. there may not be enough interest to start something like that and keep it going, and in addition sometimes it can be helpful to see other people with your same condition with different sources, to be able to draw parallels (like between an abusive family and pow camp). but that’s also the question, how general vs. specific you want to get and what your reasons are.
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hello oliver, herman has not written anything yet addressing post-recovery. she is basically an academic at harvard, a passionate academic, but nonetheless. the other things i have read include mostly journal articles, which are have that focussed clarity i like so much from ‘trauma and recovery’. i agree with what you say about sources of trauma and effects. were there to be a specialized ng on family induced trauma, i would probably be on both ng anyway, so, in the words of ‘the young’: whatever…. carole Oliver Lu <rdfuchsNOS…@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:rdfuchsNOSPAM-0509000359390001@ts013d10.sjc-ca.concentric.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <8p1tk3$u0…@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>, "carole" > <wannada…@mindspring.com> wrote: > >i think that judith herman is the best writer around on the subject of > >’trauma and recovery’. i have read everything of hers that i can get my > >hands on. > >if we wanted to start a separate listserv for those severely traumatized by > >family groups (that enemy instead of a war enemy), i’d be up for it. on the > >other hand, trauma is trauma and pain is pain. no matter where we got it, i > >bet we all have in common the same set of fears and patterns and adult > >dysfunctions: anxiety, isolation, nightmares, flashbacks, physical ills of > >several descriptions, like migraine and gut trouble and fibromyalgia or > >arthritis (what the body cannot rid itself of, it stores and tries to > >process out, isn’t this the thinking? she says as she reaches for the > >immodium and the midrin and the ativan…). > >anyway, the mechanism is the same, i bet: helplessness, captivity and loss > >of bodily integrity or control, infliction of pain, the usual. > >horrible night at work, as my words may reflect. i am sorry if this brings > >anyone down. don’t understand the limits that are acceptable here, being, as > >i am, new to the group. the constant depression and anxiety seem hydraulic > >to me: i punch them down here (ah, no nightmares in a week) and they pop up > >over here (ayeeee, now i got the constant runs..) ech. > >demoralized at the moment, > >carole, who wishes she *knew* judith herman… > what other stuff has she written?, i would be especially interested in > anything *after* "trauma and recovery" (in other words work since then, > carrying it forward and even in a new direction rather than what provides > the background for t and r in the first place). > yes i agree the symptoms may be identical but the causes are different. > thus we can certainly share our experience of the former but the latter > may have wide divergences. It was just a suggestion. there may not be > enough interest to start something like that and keep it going, and in > addition sometimes it can be helpful to see other people with your same > condition with different sources, to be able to draw parallels (like > between an abusive family and pow camp). but that’s also the question, how > general vs. specific you want to get and what your reasons are.
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In article <B5DA95B4.1D7%blha…@hotmail.com>, "Hannah." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<blha…@hotmail.com> wrote: >x-no-archive: yes >Hi carole – >I found Judith Herman’s Trauma and Recovery a terrific help, too. When I >read her book, it was the first time I fully understood what I was dealing >with, and the first time I felt acceptance for how I am. In a lot of ways, >it saved me. >>the constant depression and anxiety seem hydraulic >> to me: i punch them down here (ah, no nightmares in a week) and they pop up >> over here (ayeeee, now i got the constant runs..) ech. >I can relate well to this. I’ve used this analogy to explain how it is to >live with traumatic memories and PTSD: there’s a game at some amusement >parks where you hold a cushioned "bat", and you try to bang down gopher >heads as they pop up. >Same with the traumas – they’re like the gophers. I never know which one is >going to pop up, nor when it will, nor how well I’ll be able to "bat" it >down again until it pops up again. >And it does go physical when the emotion is overwhelming. :-( >Take care, >Hannah
Argghh! I knew there was some reason I hated that game!
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