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Actually, I think I'll post this one to the ng

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Tenacity, Though I am not a huge fan of yours, I agree that someone who has that much need and desire for vengeance, at least in this case, is probably not being honest.  Iif they are good people, they would do it through the police and standard methods of protection- not through harrassment and slander. I am sorry you have been through a difficult time. celeste – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a copy of the mail sent to me by Excite when they cancelled the account ‘your shadow’ was using to send me the e mail.  Like I said to rosee, I suppose now it will be said that I managed to entirely bamboozle Excite too, right? I guess they cancelled this person’s account, opening themselves up to censure if they were wrong without ever checking to see if the e mail being complained about and the email of the one complaining came from the same IP, right?  It never occured to them to check at all, right?  Good old Liz, with the power to cloud men’s minds.  My powers amaze even me. Since I’m here for this, I might as well post the most recent copy of the one they sent from their new yahoo addy.  Like I said to rosee, who is just DRIPPING with concern for me, please *do* complain.  The more people who do the more weight it gets and the more credence given.  That is appended to the bottom of this post. Subj:    Re: HARRASSMENT  (KMM1254703C0KM) Hi there, We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by the email which you have received.  It has been determined that the account mentioned was in violation of our ‘Terms of service’ and we have therefore deactivated it. If you receive any further notices from this address, it will be a forged one. Excite does not condone the abuse of its system and consider it grounds for deactivation.  If you receive any further mailings, please forward those to: If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to write back. Best Regards, Brian Product Support Engineer http://www.excite.com/ http://www.webcrawler.com/ http://magellan.excite.com/ What’s playing at the movies?  Find out at http://movies.excite.com/ Original message follows: Please help.  This person is stalking me….thank you, Liz Bates, Received: from  aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by -0400 Received: from  gigi.excite.com ([199.172.152.110]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by gigi.excite.com           (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP -0700 X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 207.126.85.42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is? Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you. Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur. Look out your window LOL, there I am. Subj: Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is?  Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you.  Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur. Look out your window LOL, there I am. Do You Yahoo!? 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Stephanie, I have this theory that some people are incapable of embarassing themselves. They’re just too stupid to know how stupid they are. Or, ignorance is bliss. Have a happy life. jean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You should also add your other aliases and little army of net personalities while your at it. Darren Robert Maas Le Chech Arethusa Silent Angel maybe even Sybil Sybil. Etc. Etc. Etc. And the list goes on and on. . Luanne,  you have quite the knack for multiplying yourself.  how do you manage the time.  You’re stalking Liz and Stephanie and JT with different

personalities. Don’t – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -they ever get mixed up in your head as to who should say what to who ? I’ve had enough emails from people who know all about "Luanne Pruesner" and her army of aliases, her disruptive behavior, her stalking people on the net, making up shit about them, sending multiple complaints from multiple personalities to their ISP providers. . . harassing them with unsolicited advertising. It seems our little Luanne was the main character in alt suport trauma-ptsd along with all the other personalities that would pop up occasionally to support her. It’s no darn wonder alt support trauma-ptsd is dead.  Stephanie first thought she tripped across one poisonous snake until she realized this Luanne person had several poisonous heads like a Medussa with tentacles spread and cross posted to every newsgroup. Take Note Luanne. your crafty little activities have been decloaked. . Stephanie  I repeat…. For all that wish to make a complaint to Powersurfr.com concerning our resident troll and have not received an answer from number of verbal complaints will force them to act. LA Chech The one and only chech and Noone else! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. This is a copy of the mail sent to me by Excite when they cancelled the account ‘your shadow’ was using to send me the e mail.  Like I said to rosee, I suppose now it will be said that I managed to entirely bamboozle Excite too, right? I guess they cancelled this person’s account, opening themselves up to censure if they were wrong without ever checking to see if the e mail being complained about and the email of the one complaining came from the same IP, right?  It never occured to them to check at all, right?  Good old Liz, with the power to cloud men’s minds.  My powers amaze even me. Since I’m here for this, I might as well post the most recent copy of the one they sent from their new yahoo addy.  Like I said to rosee, who is just DRIPPING with concern for me, please *do* complain.  The more people who do the more weight it gets and the more credence given.  That is appended to the bottom of this post. Subj:    Re: HARRASSMENT  (KMM1254703C0KM) Hi there, We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by the email which you have received.  It has been determined that the account mentioned was in violation of our ‘Terms of service’ and we have therefore deactivated it. If you receive any further notices from this address, it will be a forged one. Excite does not condone the abuse of its system and consider it grounds for deactivation.  If you receive any further mailings, please forward those to: If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to write back. Best Regards, Brian Product Support Engineer http://www.excite.com/ http://www.webcrawler.com/ http://magellan.excite.com/ What’s playing at the movies?  Find out at http://movies.excite.com/ Original message follows: Please help.  This person is stalking me….thank you, Liz Bates, Received: from  aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by -0400 Received: from  gigi.excite.com ([199.172.152.110]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by gigi.excite.com           (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP -0700 X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 207.126.85.42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is? Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you. Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur. Look out your window LOL, there I am. Subj: Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is?  Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question,

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Hi Tenacity, I am sorry all this is happening to you.  Everyone deserves to find recovery without being goaded every time they trip up or make a mistake.  Everyone deserves to have their *mistakes* be placed into the past, so that they are allowed to grow *beyond* their mistakes.  It does not matter how you got here or what brought you here.  What really matters is that in your heart you want to find a way out of the madness.  You want serenity and love as many or most of us do!  It only matters where you are at *today* and it does not matter what happened yesterday or whay *may* happen tomorrow. Today I hear your heart and I sense your pain and fear.  Today I sense a stronger conviction and a stronger you, a new you who has learned something valuable, something that that showed you the absolute need for empathy and compassion in this world. Kindness not only catches more flies than vinegar, it also heals! Welcome Tenacity and I wish you the best on your journey!  Perhaps unknowingly I will respond to you under your new nick.  Take care of yourself and I wish you and your family health, happiness and love. Be well, Seeker – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One other thing…I’m not terrified anymore.  I was at first, because these people have my home addy and because they had gotten SO wigged out, and because the stalking threats struck an old chord in me and I reacted without using my brain, which was probably *really* gratifying for them. But these are people who *know* this stuff can be traced back to them, and they are people with families.  I piss people off but I am not so full of myself that I believe I matter so much to them they are willing to risk their families and freedom to nail me.  I beieve maybe in their first stupid flush of anger they might have, but watching the backing and filling going on it is clear now that they wish they had never started it and intend to try to put as much distance between themselves and the whole thing as quickly as possible. I don’t think they took into account how SERIOUS it is to come here and threaten to stalk someone, or how people don’t play games with it here.  As for who posted their e mail to the group, I have only this to say.  It doesn’t matter who posted it.  What matters is they also sent it e mail….I am not the only person who has complained to every body between here and New Zealand about the e mails, along with copies of the headers.  All the mail which goes to the Bigfoot addys?  Surprise  : )  I changed where that mail is forwarded too…it has been forwarded to an address all the people involved trust so NO ONE can claim I was messing with headers. I am genuinely, truly sorry for any pain this has caused the ng.  It was never my intention to do that.  In responding to it here I intended only to make it clear I wanted it to go away.  I didn’t wish to draw more fire to myself from ‘concerned’ others.  I don’t need this kind of attention…more so now than ever before.  I needed to make sure it was addressed.  And please keep in mind I was reacting out of fear for myself and my kids, having been triggered by the stalking thing.  Otherwise I would have simply continued to respond to people via e mail, as I have done since I left the ng.  I didn’t just come back rosee.  Ask around.  I never left. rosee is right though that I do intend to hang around.  I’ll just post in a new name.  Does that bother some people?  Sorry.  Not very many people here have been too concerned with what bothers me, so I am sure you will understand if I return that, especially given the happy ‘ you get what you give’ theory that has been used to excuse these threats against me.  Those who have cared about me, well….I think they realize I need to be here more than I need to be away.  Killfilter works well for me…it has effectively erased people who are nothing but toxic to me and I recommend it to anyone who feels the same about me.  Don’t tell me how much you hate me, refuse to ignore me than claim *I* want to fight.  You hate me, ignore me.  Simple.  Anything else is your problem and despite those who are itching to fight, I have other things on my plate right now. I want it all to go away.  I think it has pretty much played out and if you go to Pathfinder you will see this same group has found someone new to hate.  I have new addys they can’t get to post in at other places so I am safe there. And only a maniac would come after me rl now.  So I will be here.  And I have learned several lessons.  One is yes, don’t piss off whacked out fools with hearts so small and black this kind of stuff, hurting people, is funny. The second I learned is not to be one of them.  I am trying to find a better way to be.  I am not perfect and I know I backslide alot,   but I keep trying. I really do.  And I will whether you make it easy for me or not.  I am not here to prove anything to anyone.  I don’t give a damn about those people who demand I earn their trust. Those people who care about me, those people who are willing to treat me like a person and expect to have to earn my trust as they expect me to earn theirs, I hope they give me a chance. See ya in choich, all.

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Luanne, You should also add your other aliases and little army of net personalities while your at it. Darren Robert Maas Le Chech Arethusa Silent Angel maybe even Sybil Sybil. Etc. Etc. Etc. And the list goes on and on. . Luanne,  you have quite the knack for multiplying yourself.  how do you manage the time.  You’re stalking Liz and Stephanie and JT with different personalities. Don’t they ever get mixed up in your head as to who should say what to who ? I’ve had enough emails from people who know all about "Luanne Pruesner" and her army of aliases, her disruptive behavior, her stalking people on the net, making up shit about them, sending multiple complaints from multiple personalities to their ISP providers. . . harassing them with unsolicited advertising. It seems our little Luanne was the main character in alt suport trauma-ptsd along with all the other personalities that would pop up occasionally to support her. It’s no darn wonder alt support trauma-ptsd is dead.  Stephanie first thought she tripped across one poisonous snake until she realized this Luanne person had several poisonous heads like a Medussa with tentacles spread and cross posted to every newsgroup. Take Note Luanne. your crafty little activities have been decloaked. . Stephanie  I repeat…. For all that wish to make a complaint to Powersurfr.com concerning our resident troll and have not received an answer from number of verbal complaints will force them to act. LA Chech The one and only chech and Noone else! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a copy of the mail sent to me by Excite when they cancelled the account ‘your shadow’ was using to send me the e mail.  Like I said to rosee, I suppose now it will be said that I managed to entirely bamboozle Excite too, right? I guess they cancelled this person’s account, opening themselves up to censure if they were wrong without ever checking to see if the e mail being complained about and the email of the one complaining came from the same IP, right?  It never occured to them to check at all, right?  Good old Liz, with the power to cloud men’s minds.  My powers amaze even me. Since I’m here for this, I might as well post the most recent copy of the one they sent from their new yahoo addy.  Like I said to rosee, who is just DRIPPING with concern for me, please *do* complain.  The more people who do the more weight it gets and the more credence given.  That is appended to the bottom of this post. Subj:    Re: HARRASSMENT  (KMM1254703C0KM) Hi there, We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by the email which you have received.  It has been determined that the account mentioned was in violation of our ‘Terms of service’ and we have therefore deactivated it. If you receive any further notices from this address, it will be a forged one. Excite does not condone the abuse of its system and consider it grounds for deactivation.  If you receive any further mailings, please forward those to: If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to write back. Best Regards, Brian Product Support Engineer http://www.excite.com/ http://www.webcrawler.com/ http://magellan.excite.com/ What’s playing at the movies?  Find out at http://movies.excite.com/ Original message follows: Please help.  This person is stalking me….thank you, Liz Bates, Received: from  aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by -0400 Received: from  gigi.excite.com ([199.172.152.110]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by gigi.excite.com           (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP -0700 X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 207.126.85.42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is? Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you. Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur. Look out your window LOL, there I am. Subj: Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you. Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is?  Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you.  Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur. Look out your window LOL, there I am. Do You Yahoo!? Return-Path:

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One other thing…I’m not terrified anymore.  I was at first, because these people have my home addy and because they had gotten SO wigged out, and because the stalking threats struck an old chord in me and I reacted without using my brain, which was probably *really* gratifying for them. But these are people who *know* this stuff can be traced back to them, and they are people with families.  I piss people off but I am not so full of myself that I believe I matter so much to them they are willing to risk their families and freedom to nail me.  I beieve maybe in their first stupid flush of anger they might have, but watching the backing and filling going on it is clear now that they wish they had never started it and intend to try to put as much distance between themselves and the whole thing as quickly as possible. I don’t think they took into account how SERIOUS it is to come here and threaten to stalk someone, or how people don’t play games with it here.  As for who posted their e mail to the group, I have only this to say.  It doesn’t matter who posted it.  What matters is they also sent it e mail….I am not the only person who has complained to every body between here and New Zealand about the e mails, along with copies of the headers.  All the mail which goes to the Bigfoot addys?  Surprise  : )  I changed where that mail is forwarded too…it has been forwarded to an address all the people involved trust so NO ONE can claim I was messing with headers. I am genuinely, truly sorry for any pain this has caused the ng.  It was never my intention to do that.  In responding to it here I intended only to make it clear I wanted it to go away.  I didn’t wish to draw more fire to myself from ‘concerned’ others.  I don’t need this kind of attention…more so now than ever before.  I needed to make sure it was addressed.  And please keep in mind I was reacting out of fear for myself and my kids, having been triggered by the stalking thing.  Otherwise I would have simply continued to respond to people via e mail, as I have done since I left the ng.  I didn’t just come back rosee.  Ask around.  I never left. rosee is right though that I do intend to hang around.  I’ll just post in a new name.  Does that bother some people?  Sorry.  Not very many people here have been too concerned with what bothers me, so I am sure you will understand if I return that, especially given the happy ‘ you get what you give’ theory that has been used to excuse these threats against me.  Those who have cared about me, well….I think they realize I need to be here more than I need to be away.  Killfilter works well for me…it has effectively erased people who are nothing but toxic to me and I recommend it to anyone who feels the same about me.  Don’t tell me how much you hate me, refuse to ignore me than claim *I* want to fight.  You hate me, ignore me.  Simple.  Anything else is your problem and despite those who are itching to fight, I have other things on my plate right now. I want it all to go away.  I think it has pretty much played out and if you go to Pathfinder you will see this same group has found someone new to hate.  I have new addys they can’t get to post in at other places so I am safe there. And only a maniac would come after me rl now.  So I will be here.  And I have learned several lessons.  One is yes, don’t piss off whacked out fools with hearts so small and black this kind of stuff, hurting people, is funny. The second I learned is not to be one of them.  I am trying to find a better way to be.  I am not perfect and I know I backslide alot,   but I keep trying. I really do.  And I will whether you make it easy for me or not.  I am not here to prove anything to anyone.  I don’t give a damn about those people who demand I earn their trust. Those people who care about me, those people who are willing to treat me like a person and expect to have to earn my trust as they expect me to earn theirs, I hope they give me a chance. See ya in choich, all.

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This is a copy of the mail sent to me by Excite when they cancelled the account ‘your shadow’ was using to send me the e mail.  Like I said to rosee, I suppose now it will be said that I managed to entirely bamboozle Excite too, right? I guess they cancelled this person’s account, opening themselves up to censure if they were wrong without ever checking to see if the e mail being complained about and the email of the one complaining came from the same IP, right?  It never occured to them to check at all, right?  Good old Liz, with the power to cloud men’s minds.  My powers amaze even me. Since I’m here for this, I might as well post the most recent copy of the one they sent from their new yahoo addy.  Like I said to rosee, who is just DRIPPING with concern for me, please *do* complain.  The more people who do the more weight it gets and the more credence given.  That is appended to the bottom of this post. Subj:    Re: HARRASSMENT  (KMM1254703C0KM) Hi there, We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by the email which you have received.  It has been determined that the account mentioned was in violation of our ‘Terms of service’ and we have therefore deactivated it. If you receive any further notices from this address, it will be a forged one. Excite does not condone the abuse of its system and consider it grounds for deactivation.  If you receive any further mailings, please forward those to: If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to write back. Best Regards, Brian Product Support Engineer http://www.excite.com/ http://www.webcrawler.com/ http://magellan.excite.com/ What’s playing at the movies?  Find out at http://movies.excite.com/ Original message follows: Please help.  This person is stalking me….thank you, Liz Bates, Received: from  aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by -0400 Received: from  gigi.excite.com ([199.172.152.110]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by gigi.excite.com           (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP -0700 X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 207.126.85.42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you.   Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is? Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you. Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur.   Look out your window LOL, there I am. Subj:     Hello Liz You fucked yourself up real bad this time sicko. Change your number, go ahead, change it a million times.  I have friends in high places at the phone company and I can get any number you have, no matter how many times you change it, and I will get it. I’ll be calling you.  I’ll be calling and hanging up, I’ll be calling and pretending I’m a salesperson, I’ll be calling pretending I’m a bill collector. Just to confuse you I’ll have friends call pretending to be salespeople, bill collectors and hey, even surveys.  Only you won’t know when I’m going to call, but I will call. I’m gonna follow you around the net, Liz, I’m going to find where you post and I’m going to hound you until you blow up and get booted off of every place you play.  I’m going to post the shit you’ve done and I’m going to back it up with copies of the stuff you posted and written.  Then when everyone starts hating you there, as they now do on pathfinder, I’ll post your newest phone number. You can threaten all you want with the "law", but you know that nothing will happen to me or anyone of the many people who will help me.  Your threat is empty, you know it because you’ve stalked and harrassed many people. just like I’m going to do you and the "law" hasn’t done a thing to you, so you know that your threats of the "law" are empty. You know it, I know it and so does everybody else. I’m all around you Liz, and I will be for a long time.  I’ll be looking for you, yes I will and I’ll find you.   Tell me, did you ever think your live could be more miserable than it is?  Well in case you’ve ever asked yourself that question, I’m going to answer it for you.  Yes, it can and yes it will. Watch out for me liz, you are fucking nuts, but you’ve never known crazy until you’ve pissed me off, and that’s just what you’ve gone and done, you poor miserable foolish amateur.   Look out your window LOL, there I am. Do You Yahoo!? Received: from  aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by Received: from  web601.yahoomail.com (web1204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.140]) Received: from [207.126.85.206] by web1204.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:00:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

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