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A few good men….

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I hope you are right. I have been travelling for so long on the bumpy road under heavy duty construction that I can’t even imagine a smooth one. Hope….. Take care, Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? yes. Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? yes. I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. it’s good that you say that. it is certainly not easy, or fair. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? sometimes the road is smooth, other times bumpy and under construction. i suck at analogies but i hear you. ed

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actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : (

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actually just one would do. Are there any left out there?

yes. Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future?

yes. I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard.

it’s good that you say that. it is certainly not easy, or fair. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there?

sometimes the road is smooth, other times bumpy and under construction. i suck at analogies but i hear you. ed

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Now that was well put Denise! <huge grin Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – oh, shut up!  here i sit pining away for a "good" man, one who doesn’t burst into fits of rage at the slightest provocation, who doesn’t talk about how no one alive except him and his family deserves to live, who doesn’t go searching for exotic poisons on the web to kill people who’ve done him wrong, who doesn’t curse his mother for dying and leaving him to support himself AND raise his own daughter, and you whine how women don’t want a "good" man. here i am, dude.  i’m settled and crazy and sexy and charming and crazy and i already half love you, silly man.  i have a career in a growing field, i have my own place and a place in my heart for a new love.  i don’t care what you look like, i don’t care what you come from, i care if you’re decent and "nice." i care about how you treat me.  i’m up front and i speak my mind and i’ve been told i’m intelligent and i’m a sappy sentimentalist. and i’m lonely as hell. pardon me for butting into your butting in to someone else’s post. just my own little rant. denise x-no-archive: yes Please excuse me for butting in, JP, but I have an answer… A nice guy is a B+ when women are looking for an A+. "Nice guy" is how you describe a brother or platonic friend.  When you’re first attracted to someone, do you use the adjective "nice guy?"  Of course not.  You use stud, beefcake, hunk, dreamy, hot, or some other such description. The "nice guy" label means he’s good, but not good enough. For a man already in a relationship, it might not be so bad.  But for us singles, it’s condescending. We know you mean well, but it still hurts. Imagine how you might feel if a man says, "You have such a nice personality."  I guess that’s the female version of being called a nice guy.  It’s a compliment, but is that how you want to be described? And on a related note, I’m tired of women saying, "If I weren’t married, I’d grab you right up!"  Well, they ARE married.  They can dish out as many compliments as they like and not have to worry about backing it up. Just my little rant…  :-) Harleyman Hey JP, why is being a nice guy an insult? Patricia I can’t say I’m a good man, but I’m definitely a nice guy.  Millions have cursed me with that label over the years. Harleyman I really hate been called a nice guy. It is indeed a curse, when will women realise that this is nothing but an insult. JP — http://scally.dynhost.com/arethusa

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Hmmm…ok, there may be a difference… what I mean is a man with good morals, values, respectful, trusting and trustworthy, compassionate, loving, etc. good man or nice guy…not sure of the difference. Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nope, not all women. I am not used to being around nice guys…I have had a tendancy to be attracted to "bad boys" like a magnet. : ( I want to find nice guys now and would have no problem being seen with one. Patricia You phrased it correctly in your header. There is a huge difference between nice guy and good man. — JP

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Nope, not all women. I am not used to being around nice guys…I have had a tendancy to be attracted to "bad boys" like a magnet. : ( I want to find nice guys now and would have no problem being seen with one. Patricia

You phrased it correctly in your header. There is a huge difference between nice guy and good man. — JP

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Nope, not all women. I am not used to being around nice guys…I have had a tendancy to be attracted to "bad boys" like a magnet. : ( I want to find nice guys now and would have no problem being seen with one. Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey JP, why is being a nice guy an insult? Patricia Because if a woman says you are a nice guy, what she actually means is that there is no way in hell that she would ever be seen with you. — JP

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Hey JP, why is being a nice guy an insult? Patricia

Because if a woman says you are a nice guy, what she actually means is that there is no way in hell that she would ever be seen with you. — JP

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Hey JP, why is being a nice guy an insult? Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t say I’m a good man, but I’m definitely a nice guy.  Millions have cursed me with that label over the years. Harleyman I really hate been called a nice guy. It is indeed a curse, when will women realise that this is nothing but an insult. — JP

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Hi, well a nice guy would categorise as a good man I think. It is a good label. : ) I am glad to know there is hope then. Take care, Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : ( I can’t say I’m a good man, but I’m definitely a nice guy.  Millions have cursed me with that label over the years. Harleyman

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Hi JP, hmmm…without hope, what is there? Not much I don’t think. Try to find the hope… it could make a big difference. Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : ( I can’t help with this one, I personally have given up all hope of ever finding a woman. I accept this but it doesn’t mean I have to like it. As for happiness, I’ve never really known this anyway. I hope you find what you are looking for, you have suffered enough. — JP

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I can’t say I’m a good man, but I’m definitely a nice guy.  Millions have cursed me with that label over the years. Harleyman

I really hate been called a nice guy. It is indeed a curse, when will women realise that this is nothing but an insult. — JP

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actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : (

I can’t help with this one, I personally have given up all hope of ever finding a woman. I accept this but it doesn’t mean I have to like it. As for happiness, I’ve never really known this anyway. I hope you find what you are looking for, you have suffered enough. — JP

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You know, once upon a time before my trauma and PTSD, I used to be a very spiritual person……. I lost hold of it…… Your words are very comforting to me, I have recieved many comforting words today and it helps so much. wishing you the best, Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Patricia,          I can sometimes get really upset about this problem. I try to remember that God is in charge of every aspect of my life. When I am ready for a relationship, God will provide someone for me. Gloria

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Hi Patricia,          I can sometimes get really upset about this problem. I try to remember that God is in charge of every aspect of my life. When I am ready for a relationship, God will provide someone for me. Gloria

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You mean I’m not the only one? That is comforting in a sad way, isn’t it. Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – whoa…how did you get into my head?  (this is just how i feel.) sasha actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : (

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I actually think I understand what you were getting at… too much of a nice guy can equal boring….and we wouldn’t want that. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *raises hand* Another "nice guy" here. It takes me a while to get up the nerve to ask for a date. Then she usually says "You’re a nice guy" with an unspoken "but." I take that to mean she thinks I’m harmless, soft in the head, maybe a little crazy. Well, I *am* harmless. I *am* a little crazy. And I  have a lot of trouble handling rejection. But once I’m in a relationship, being a "nice guy" – a considerate, gentle, affectionate person – is a good thing. What’s up with that? I wouldn’t know. Never got that far… In fact, I had already decided that being a nice guy was getting in the way of getting there…Okay, now I’m confusing myself… Alex. "No More Mr. Nice Guy!" ___ One may have a blazing hearth in one’s soul and yet no one ever come to sit by it. Passers-by see only a wisp of smoke from the chimney and continue on their way. – Vincent Van Gogh

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Hahaha…now that doesn’t sound like something a nice guy would do. ; ) Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thank you.  but he’ll brush me off. he always does. denise Now that was well put Denise! <huge grin Patricia oh, shut up!  here i sit pining away for a "good" man, one who doesn’t burst into fits of rage at the slightest provocation, who doesn’t talk about how no one alive except him and his family deserves to live, who doesn’t go searching for exotic poisons on the web to kill people who’ve done him wrong, who doesn’t curse his mother for dying and leaving him to support himself AND raise his own daughter, and you whine how women don’t want a "good" man. here i am, dude.  i’m settled and crazy and sexy and charming and crazy and i already half love you, silly man.  i have a career in a growing field, i have my own place and a place in my heart for a new love.  i don’t care what you look like, i don’t care what you come from, i care if you’re decent and "nice." i care about how you treat me.  i’m up front and i speak my mind and i’ve been told i’m intelligent and i’m a sappy sentimentalist. and i’m lonely as hell. pardon me for butting into your butting in to someone else’s post. just my own little rant. denise x-no-archive: yes Please excuse me for butting in, JP, but I have an answer… A nice guy is a B+ when women are looking for an A+. "Nice guy" is how you describe a brother or platonic friend.  When you’re first attracted to someone, do you use the adjective "nice guy?"  Of course not.  You use stud, beefcake, hunk, dreamy, hot, or some other such description. The "nice guy" label means he’s good, but not good enough. For a man already in a relationship, it might not be so bad.  But for us singles, it’s condescending. We know you mean well, but it still hurts. Imagine how you might feel if a man says, "You have such a nice personality."  I guess that’s the female version of being called a nice guy.  It’s a compliment, but is that how you want to be described? And on a related note, I’m tired of women saying, "If I weren’t married, I’d grab you right up!"  Well, they ARE married.  They can dish out as many compliments as they like and not have to worry about backing it up. Just my little rant…  :-) Harleyman Hey JP, why is being a nice guy an insult? Patricia I can’t say I’m a good man, but I’m definitely a nice guy.  Millions have cursed me with that label over the years. Harleyman I really hate been called a nice guy. It is indeed a curse, when will women realise that this is nothing but an insult. JP — http://scally.dynhost.com/arethusa — http://scally.dynhost.com/arethusa

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Rejection sucks…. Harmless and a little crazy sounds like a good combo I am serious with a wild side…..with the acception of the odd mania phase, then I’m giddy and kind of stupid. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *raises hand* Another "nice guy" here. It takes me a while to get up the nerve to ask for a date. Then she usually says "You’re a nice guy" with an unspoken "but." I take that to mean she thinks I’m harmless, soft in the head, maybe a little crazy. Well, I *am* harmless. I *am* a little crazy. And I  have a lot of trouble handling rejection. But once I’m in a relationship, being a "nice guy" – a considerate, gentle, affectionate person – is a good thing. What’s up with that? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I take it you don’t think you are a good man? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – actually just one would do. Then you don’t want me

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whoa…how did you get into my head?  (this is just how i feel.) sasha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – actually just one would do. Are there any left out there? Do I stand a chance at happiness sometime in the future? I know it will take time…long time…but I am trying to get positive. Man, it is hard. On the one hand, I don’t feel like I will ever trust or love again….on the other hand, without hope, what is there? Patricia : (

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actually just one would do.

Then you don’t want me

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*raises hand* Another "nice guy" here. It takes me a while to get up the nerve to ask for a date. Then she usually says "You’re a nice guy" with an unspoken "but." I take that to mean she thinks I’m harmless, soft in the head, maybe a little crazy. Well, I *am* harmless. I *am* a little crazy. And I  have a lot of trouble handling rejection. But once I’m in a relationship, being a "nice guy" – a considerate, gentle, affectionate person – is a good thing. What’s up with that? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Hahaha…: ) I guess I missed it when they were passing them out. Patricia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hmmm…ok, there may be a difference… what I mean is a man with good morals, values, respectful, trusting and trustworthy, compassionate, loving, etc. good man or nice guy…not sure of the difference. Yep. A good man is what you described, a nice guy is what I said in my previous post. I thought this was in the womans handbook, one of those things that every woman seems to know without ever been told :) — JP

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Hmmm…ok, there may be a difference… what I mean is a man with good morals, values, respectful, trusting and trustworthy, compassionate, loving, etc. good man or nice guy…not sure of the difference.

Yep. A good man is what you described, a nice guy is what I said in my previous post. I thought this was in the womans handbook, one of those things that every woman seems to know without ever been told :) — JP

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