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In article <AkQxa.18107$Hy3.3…@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, Beverley <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote >No you don’t smell peanuts until they are roasted. In fact when I react it >is before I can see or smell anything. Raw washed peanuts still on the vines >do nothing to me so it’s not the peanuts. Dirt in general does nothing to >me. But there is something, maybe mold or viral, that lives with the peanuts >in the soil. When the peanuts are dug it tosses a great deal of soil into >the air and whatever it is becomes airborne.
Yes, there’s some toxin which can infect peanuts, so no doubt there are others less bad and more common. I think it’s the ‘byproduct’ of a mold. — Andy [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus for more!
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Thanks for the list, Wes, and I *do* keep lists of other folks treatments… thing I have not tried yet, so will make note of this. I never know when I am going to need something new… So thank you very much for getting that for me. Mair "Wesley" <johnjohnston2…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:112adbed.0305171426.6d6ed7fe@posting.google.com… > Hi Mary, > I do so wish you luck, and wellness. Our friend came down today, and > here is the list of what she takes: Effexor, Zyprexa(for anxiety), > Neurontin (new in psychiatric medicine), and Geodon. There you have > it, but since you are doing well you shouldn’t really need it! > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
<news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Here we go! > > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > > Wish me luck… > > Mair
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Hi Mary, I do so wish you luck, and wellness. Our friend came down today, and here is the list of what she takes: Effexor, Zyprexa(for anxiety), Neurontin (new in psychiatric medicine), and Geodon. There you have it, but since you are doing well you shouldn’t really need it! "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message <news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair
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No you don’t smell peanuts until they are roasted. In fact when I react it is before I can see or smell anything. Raw washed peanuts still on the vines do nothing to me so it’s not the peanuts. Dirt in general does nothing to me. But there is something, maybe mold or viral, that lives with the peanuts in the soil. When the peanuts are dug it tosses a great deal of soil into the air and whatever it is becomes airborne. We can leave the area during harvest time and go to the mountains and I will clear up if I haven’t progressed to a real infection from it. But the minute we pass back into peanut country my head will fill again. That’s how I began to put it together and figured out it’s peanut "dust". But oh, can I smell the peanuts roasting. Planters Peanuts is only abut a 1/2 mile form my house. Fortunately I like the smell of roasting peanuts. Bev "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:m_wxa.2602$Io.239393@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> are you familair with doccylamine succinate? It is a sleeping aid that is > much better than diphenhyramine. It is in Ny-Quil (along with > phenylpropanolamine and alcohol!). Look at the sleep aids for doccylamine > succinate… there is a name brand, but I forget it… and there is usually > a generic that is much cheaper. Tablets. > And, as you know there are tons of mold spores in the soil, and Ill bet that > has something to do with your peanut season problem. Can you smell the > peanuts in the air when they dig them up? Oh boy, that would make me sick > for sure. I am very sensitive to odors. > M > "Beverley" <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:gewxa.7592$%8.4239@nwrddc04.gnilink.net… > > I can take a few cough meds but I have to read the label carefully. I > > figured out that by combining two certain OTC’s I could make the Rx I’m > > occasionally prescribed. But I just suffer through the cold. I can’t take > > the decongestants. > > I get in trouble when the peanuts are being dug. Something in the dirt-air > > (I don’t know exactly but I think I know what it could be) but I can tell > we > > are coming up on a field a mile or two away as my nose, eyes and throat > itch > > and feel gritty, etc. I’ll start sneezing, etc. I’ve learned to keep the > car > > windows up while traveling through the farmland in late Sept early Oct and > > keep the air on re-circulate rather than fresh. It will set me up for the > > cold from h*ll (including ear infections) if I’m not careful. No, it is > not > > an allergy to peanuts. It’s something about the soil and the peanuts. > > Years ago a doc gave me a cough med that I loved!! LOL (I had had > pneumonia > > and was so sick!) He told me to take it before going to bed and then to go > > directly to bed. Well, I did, sorta ….. I took it went to my bed but was > > talking to my DH when the stuff hit. Apparently I stopped mid-sentence and > > passed out. After that I took it while I was sitting on the edge of the > bed > > and immediately climbed under the covers. I have no idea what it was but I > > promise I slept the whole night through!! I wish I knew what it was > because > > they can never get me knocked out for surgery and I tend to wake up in the > > middle of it. > > Bev > > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:6Qvxa.2538$Io.231248@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > > Phenylpropanolamine, sudoephedrine… these cold medications… they do > it > > > to me, too. I have tachycardia anyway… and these meds will make my > > heart > > > go crazy. Pheylpropanolamine has now been taken off the market. When I > > > have a cold (which is rarely) I just have to suffer… > > > M
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I can take a few cough meds but I have to read the label carefully. I figured out that by combining two certain OTC’s I could make the Rx I’m occasionally prescribed. But I just suffer through the cold. I can’t take the decongestants. I get in trouble when the peanuts are being dug. Something in the dirt-air (I don’t know exactly but I think I know what it could be) but I can tell we are coming up on a field a mile or two away as my nose, eyes and throat itch and feel gritty, etc. I’ll start sneezing, etc. I’ve learned to keep the car windows up while traveling through the farmland in late Sept early Oct and keep the air on re-circulate rather than fresh. It will set me up for the cold from h*ll (including ear infections) if I’m not careful. No, it is not an allergy to peanuts. It’s something about the soil and the peanuts. Years ago a doc gave me a cough med that I loved!! LOL (I had had pneumonia and was so sick!) He told me to take it before going to bed and then to go directly to bed. Well, I did, sorta ….. I took it went to my bed but was talking to my DH when the stuff hit. Apparently I stopped mid-sentence and passed out. After that I took it while I was sitting on the edge of the bed and immediately climbed under the covers. I have no idea what it was but I promise I slept the whole night through!! I wish I knew what it was because they can never get me knocked out for surgery and I tend to wake up in the middle of it. Bev "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:6Qvxa.2538$Io.231248@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Phenylpropanolamine, sudoephedrine… these cold medications… they do it > to me, too. I have tachycardia anyway… and these meds will make my heart > go crazy. Pheylpropanolamine has now been taken off the market. When I > have a cold (which is rarely) I just have to suffer… > M
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are you familair with doccylamine succinate? It is a sleeping aid that is much better than diphenhyramine. It is in Ny-Quil (along with phenylpropanolamine and alcohol!). Look at the sleep aids for doccylamine succinate… there is a name brand, but I forget it… and there is usually a generic that is much cheaper. Tablets. And, as you know there are tons of mold spores in the soil, and Ill bet that has something to do with your peanut season problem. Can you smell the peanuts in the air when they dig them up? Oh boy, that would make me sick for sure. I am very sensitive to odors. M "Beverley" <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:gewxa.7592$%8.4239@nwrddc04.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can take a few cough meds but I have to read the label carefully. I > figured out that by combining two certain OTC’s I could make the Rx I’m > occasionally prescribed. But I just suffer through the cold. I can’t take > the decongestants. > I get in trouble when the peanuts are being dug. Something in the dirt-air > (I don’t know exactly but I think I know what it could be) but I can tell we > are coming up on a field a mile or two away as my nose, eyes and throat itch > and feel gritty, etc. I’ll start sneezing, etc. I’ve learned to keep the car > windows up while traveling through the farmland in late Sept early Oct and > keep the air on re-circulate rather than fresh. It will set me up for the > cold from h*ll (including ear infections) if I’m not careful. No, it is not > an allergy to peanuts. It’s something about the soil and the peanuts. > Years ago a doc gave me a cough med that I loved!! LOL (I had had pneumonia > and was so sick!) He told me to take it before going to bed and then to go > directly to bed. Well, I did, sorta ….. I took it went to my bed but was > talking to my DH when the stuff hit. Apparently I stopped mid-sentence and > passed out. After that I took it while I was sitting on the edge of the bed > and immediately climbed under the covers. I have no idea what it was but I > promise I slept the whole night through!! I wish I knew what it was because > they can never get me knocked out for surgery and I tend to wake up in the > middle of it. > Bev > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:6Qvxa.2538$Io.231248@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > Phenylpropanolamine, sudoephedrine… these cold medications… they do it > > to me, too. I have tachycardia anyway… and these meds will make my > heart > > go crazy. Pheylpropanolamine has now been taken off the market. When I > > have a cold (which is rarely) I just have to suffer… > > M
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Phenylpropanolamine, sudoephedrine… these cold medications… they do it to me, too. I have tachycardia anyway… and these meds will make my heart go crazy. Pheylpropanolamine has now been taken off the market. When I have a cold (which is rarely) I just have to suffer… M "Beverley" <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:osixa.8230$Hy3.2549@nwrddc02.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I agree kids that need it are calmed immensely. Kids that don’t are either > on the ceiling or sound asleep! > I had to laugh even if it is not funny but my friend’s granddaughter is on > Ritalin. The grandson is fine but when the parents gave him something (doc > Rx) one time for a bad cold he went berserk. Finally about 10:30 at night > they put him outside in the back yard (fenced) and closed the kitchen door. > As frazzled as the parents nerves were and what he did to his older sister – > it was the safest place for him. Thank goodness Social Services wasn’t > around, I’m sure they would have charged the parents with something! About 2 > hours later he quit kicking and screaming and they could bring him back > inside. Neither parent slept that night. > Decongestants are known for wiring some kids while putting others under. (It > raises my blood pressure to unbelievable heights!) > I don’t like Motrin. I know so many parents who use it. My feeling is if a > child is sick then keep them quiet. Let a low grade fever burn and do what > it is supposed to do. But today with both parents working they just dose the > child with Motrin and send them to school! > Bev > "Sherry" <hurst…@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message > news:wE9xa.664$lm1.76650726@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… > > Mary, > > Hyperactive children have a "reverse" reaction to stimulants. Give them > > coffee or "speed" and it slows them down. Also if you give them something > > that would make the "normal" child sleep it wires them to the hilt! Seems > > that their chemistry and wires are all backwards. > > Instead of using Ritalin or a similar drug when my son was hyper the > doctor > > told me to give him a cup of coffee (no sugar) and it "calmed" him. When > he > > was teething his poor little teeth would not break through the gums and he > > went days and days that he was awake and crying….the doc gave me a > "little > > something" that was supposed to help him get some sleep. It wired him to > > the skies. <g> So I then had a very fussy and wired baby. > > Sherry > > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:fx7xa.774$Io.61555@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > > Ritalin (methylphenidate hydrochloride) is a stimulant medication. It > is > > > basically like "speed." Like other stimulants such as coffee, it works > as > > a > > > depressant on children. Ritalin is often used on hyperactive children. > > My > > > nephew took it, and it was really a wonder drug for him. > > > It was not used this way on me. It was used as speed on me because all > I > > > could do was lie on my bed or couch. The docs wanted to get me out of > the > > > hospital so they put me on something they knew I had responded to in the > > > past. I had a hard crash two weeks after I got home, and could not do > > > anything. > > > I don’t know where the changing point is, but somewhere along the line > in > > > puberty, Ritalin stops working as a depressent on people, and on adults > it > > > is a stimulant. When it worked on me, it made me feel wonderful. > Imagine > > > going from lying on the bed, unable to move, to being up and feeling > > > wonderful, wanting to be released from the hospital and take my husband > on > > a > > > vacation. If asked what I would rather have, medication-wise, I always > > sort > > > of go…"ritalin? percocet?… oh, sorry… I guess maybe we should > hunt > > > for the right antidepressant!" > > > M > > > "J" <J@MungedA…@example.com> wrote in message > > > news:3EC4DECE.4224BC08@execulink.com… > > > > one doc wanted me to take it (to counter fatique – sleepiness) and I > see > > > some on > > > > the fibro newsgroup do. > > > > My question is how does that help a person who has continual poor or > not > > > enough > > > > sleep? <rhetorial> > > > > It’s kind of like runnning on empty all the time. Just a quick-fix > that > > > really > > > > doesn’t solve the problem. > > > > Seems to me, that must be hard on the heart > > > > J > > > > Beverley wrote: > > > > > Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child > > doesn’t > > > > > need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. > Unfortunately > > > too > > > > > many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored > or > > > > > bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention > > > deficit > > > > > and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do > not > > > apply > > > > > to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were > fine. > > > I’ve > > > > > seen several other children who were placed on it and should have > > never > > > been > > > > > given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare > when > > > it > > > > > isn’t. > > > > > Bev > > > > > "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… > > > > > > Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps > to > > > slow > > > > > > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought > giving > > > her > > > > > > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > > > > > > Ritalin is addictive > > > > > > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom)
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Here we go! I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. Wish me luck… Mair — stin…@earthlink.net http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Crossing my fingers and toes for you. ((HUGS)) Bev "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair > — > stin…@earthlink.net > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Good luck Mair, 16th eh? My oh my, I’ve sure tried quite the list, over the years. I can actually feel when my brain hormones aren’t happy (take a nose dive). It’s frustrating, hope this is *the one* for you Hugs and we love you, J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Mary T. Rawle" wrote: > Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair > — > stin…@earthlink.net > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Mary, I am so sorry it is rough to keep switching. I have in my adult life taken six. GOOD LUCK! Heather "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair > — > stin…@earthlink.net > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Good luck! I’ve taken one a long time ago.. can’t remember the name– Paxil? Yeah, that’s it… It seemed to work… I didn’t know Ritalin was an antidepressant- I have been thinking of asking the doctor for some, since it’s a treatment for ADD- I’ve had people tell me for years I have that and I could use some more focus these days… The anti-depressant part would be a plus in my life, too! On a fun note- I’m just counting the days for that Barbie Pill to come out… Melanotan… heard of it? It gives you a tan (without going outside), makes you lose weight, increases your sex drive… (that part I don’t need but oh well!)… I think they ought to put in an antidepressant- it’d be PERFECT… Oh, and maybe that herb that supposedly makes boobs grow… LOL -Kristin "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair > — > stin…@earthlink.net > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Luck, luck, and more luck! "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message <news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here we go! > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > Wish me luck… > Mair
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No, Ritalin is not an antidepressant, it is a Schedule II drug… at the time they were completely out of answers for me. So they put me on Ritalin, which worked for about 3 weeks before I crashed. Don’t take Ritalin if you don’t have to… M. "McAllister Clan" <aeroch…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:elWwa.72856$ey1.6572157@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good luck! > I’ve taken one a long time ago.. can’t remember the name– Paxil? Yeah, > that’s it… It seemed to work… > I didn’t know Ritalin was an antidepressant- I have been thinking of asking > the doctor for some, since it’s a treatment for ADD- I’ve had people tell me > for years I have that and I could use some more focus these days… The > anti-depressant part would be a plus in my life, too! > On a fun note- I’m just counting the days for that Barbie Pill to come > out… Melanotan… heard of it? It gives you a tan (without going > outside), makes you lose weight, increases your sex drive… (that part I > don’t need but oh well!)… I think they ought to put in an antidepressant- > it’d be PERFECT… Oh, and maybe that herb that supposedly makes boobs > grow… LOL > -Kristin > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > Here we go! > > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in > my > > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that > I > > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that > were > > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, > Nardil > > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy > over > > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I > started. > > Wish me luck… > > Mair > > — > > stin…@earthlink.net > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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Hey Wes! Hows that surgery? You doin’ okay? They got you out of pain today, my friend? M Wesley" <johnjohnston2…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:112adbed.0305151642.2e724f93@posting.google.com… > Luck, luck, and more luck! > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
<news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Here we go! > > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that I > > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that were > > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, Nardil > > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy over > > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > > Wish me luck… > > Mair
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Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to slow them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving her meds. Now she is on one that is safer Ritalin is addictive Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom) — "McAllister Clan" <aeroch…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:elWwa.72856$ey1.6572157@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good luck! > I’ve taken one a long time ago.. can’t remember the name– Paxil? Yeah, > that’s it… It seemed to work… > I didn’t know Ritalin was an antidepressant- I have been thinking of asking > the doctor for some, since it’s a treatment for ADD- I’ve had people tell me > for years I have that and I could use some more focus these days… The > anti-depressant part would be a plus in my life, too! > On a fun note- I’m just counting the days for that Barbie Pill to come > out… Melanotan… heard of it? It gives you a tan (without going > outside), makes you lose weight, increases your sex drive… (that part I > don’t need but oh well!)… I think they ought to put in an antidepressant- > it’d be PERFECT… Oh, and maybe that herb that supposedly makes boobs > grow… LOL > -Kristin > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > Here we go! > > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in > my > > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 that > I > > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that > were > > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, > Nardil > > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy > over > > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I > started. > > Wish me luck… > > Mair > > — > > stin…@earthlink.net > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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On Thu, 15 May 2003 20:57:09 GMT, "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote: >Here we go! >I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my >adult life!
i didn’t even know there were that many. though Luvox was one I tried briefly. > I hope that none of you have had the experience with >antidepressant medication that I have had.
only 4 here. and have been fortunate to be free of ‘em for several years now. sometimes not sure I *should* be but… >extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started.
very few of them come without something you either have to live with or simply can’t live with. sometimes "cocktails" are in order. I’ve a few friends who have gone through just about all there is and end up with cocktails that are constantly being tweaked. Usually it’s a matter of depression and anxiety disorder which requires a delicate balance. >Wish me luck…
wishin’ and hopin’ and thinkin’ and prayin’
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Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child doesn’t need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. Unfortunately too many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored or bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention deficit and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do not apply to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were fine. I’ve seen several other children who were placed on it and should have never been given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare when it isn’t. Bev "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message
news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to slow > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving her > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > Ritalin is addictive > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom) > — > "McAllister Clan" <aeroch…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:elWwa.72856$ey1.6572157@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > Good luck! > > I’ve taken one a long time ago.. can’t remember the name– Paxil? Yeah, > > that’s it… It seemed to work… > > I didn’t know Ritalin was an antidepressant- I have been thinking of > asking > > the doctor for some, since it’s a treatment for ADD- I’ve had people tell > me > > for years I have that and I could use some more focus these days… The > > anti-depressant part would be a plus in my life, too! > > On a fun note- I’m just counting the days for that Barbie Pill to come > > out… Melanotan… heard of it? It gives you a tan (without going > > outside), makes you lose weight, increases your sex drive… (that part I > > don’t need but oh well!)… I think they ought to put in an > antidepressant- > > it’d be PERFECT… Oh, and maybe that herb that supposedly makes boobs > > grow… LOL > > -Kristin > > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:FaTwa.72496$ey1.6546960@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > > Here we go! > > > I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in > > my > > > adult life! I hope that none of you have had the experience with > > > antidepressant medication that I have had. My depression is a separate > > > disorder from my lupus, and has been quite hard to treat. Not all 16 > that > > I > > > have tried failed to work; some worked fine, but had side effects that > > were > > > hard to handle over an extended period of time (Imipramine, Ludiomil, > > Nardil > > > Wellbutrin), while others worked fine at first and lost their efficacy > > over > > > time (Prozac, Serzone, Ritalin). The others either did nothing, or had > > > extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I > > started. > > > Wish me luck… > > > Mair > > > — > > > stin…@earthlink.net > > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0114986/
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one doc wanted me to take it (to counter fatique – sleepiness) and I see some on the fibro newsgroup do. My question is how does that help a person who has continual poor or not enough sleep? <rhetorial> It’s kind of like runnning on empty all the time. Just a quick-fix that really doesn’t solve the problem. Seems to me, that must be hard on the heart J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Beverley wrote: > Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child doesn’t > need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. Unfortunately too > many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored or > bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention deficit > and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do not apply > to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were fine. I’ve > seen several other children who were placed on it and should have never been > given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare when it > isn’t. > Bev > "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message > news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… > > Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to slow > > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving her > > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > > Ritalin is addictive > > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom)
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Ritalin (methylphenidate hydrochloride) is a stimulant medication. It is basically like "speed." Like other stimulants such as coffee, it works as a depressant on children. Ritalin is often used on hyperactive children. My nephew took it, and it was really a wonder drug for him. It was not used this way on me. It was used as speed on me because all I could do was lie on my bed or couch. The docs wanted to get me out of the hospital so they put me on something they knew I had responded to in the past. I had a hard crash two weeks after I got home, and could not do anything. I don’t know where the changing point is, but somewhere along the line in puberty, Ritalin stops working as a depressent on people, and on adults it is a stimulant. When it worked on me, it made me feel wonderful. Imagine going from lying on the bed, unable to move, to being up and feeling wonderful, wanting to be released from the hospital and take my husband on a vacation. If asked what I would rather have, medication-wise, I always sort of go…"ritalin? percocet?… oh, sorry… I guess maybe we should hunt for the right antidepressant!" M "J" <J@MungedA…@example.com> wrote in message
news:3EC4DECE.4224BC08@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> one doc wanted me to take it (to counter fatique – sleepiness) and I see some on > the fibro newsgroup do. > My question is how does that help a person who has continual poor or not enough > sleep? <rhetorial> > It’s kind of like runnning on empty all the time. Just a quick-fix that really > doesn’t solve the problem. > Seems to me, that must be hard on the heart > J > Beverley wrote: > > Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child doesn’t > > need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. Unfortunately too > > many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored or > > bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention deficit > > and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do not apply > > to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were fine. I’ve > > seen several other children who were placed on it and should have never been > > given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare when it > > isn’t. > > Bev > > "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message > > news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… > > > Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to slow > > > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving her > > > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > > > Ritalin is addictive > > > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom)
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Yes, depression with anxiety is the problem with me. The effexor, any of the antidepresants that are stimulating will trigger the anxiety. I have been on several "cocktails"–Prozac/trazadone worked for me for years, and I would recommend that combo. This past year has been Wellbutrin/Remeron, but I have gained 50 pounds…and then I had the twitching… and my doc wanted me off Wellbutrin because of the risk of seizures. Now *I* want off the Remeron, because I want to get my weight back down. I have net surfed about 6 times researching what I wanted as a new antidepressant. I chose Luvox because it seems to be especially good for obsessive/compulsive disorders and PTSD, which is what I have. It states that is works best for depression with concomitant anxiety, so I said, "sign me up!" I am having nausea with it, but that is an acceptable side effect to me at this point. And no other side effects that I can see yet. My pulse is 112, which is a tiny bit higher than it usually is…. Mair "KC" <kca…@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:sjl8cv473k7bbmrl1tse3bl148770fcj51@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Thu, 15 May 2003 20:57:09 GMT, "Mary T. Rawle" > <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Here we go! > >I am starting Luvox today… the 16th antidepressant that I have used in my > >adult life! > i didn’t even know there were that many. though Luvox was one I tried > briefly. > > I hope that none of you have had the experience with > >antidepressant medication that I have had. > only 4 here. and have been fortunate to be free of ‘em for several > years now. sometimes not sure I *should* be but… > >extreme side effects and I had to stop the medication soon after I started. > very few of them come without something you either have to live with > or simply can’t live with. sometimes "cocktails" are in order. I’ve > a few friends who have gone through just about all there is and end up > with cocktails that are constantly being tweaked. Usually it’s a > matter of depression and anxiety disorder which requires a delicate > balance. > >Wish me luck… > wishin’ and hopin’ and thinkin’ and prayin’
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Mary, Hyperactive children have a "reverse" reaction to stimulants. Give them coffee or "speed" and it slows them down. Also if you give them something that would make the "normal" child sleep it wires them to the hilt! Seems that their chemistry and wires are all backwards. Instead of using Ritalin or a similar drug when my son was hyper the doctor told me to give him a cup of coffee (no sugar) and it "calmed" him. When he was teething his poor little teeth would not break through the gums and he went days and days that he was awake and crying….the doc gave me a "little something" that was supposed to help him get some sleep. It wired him to the skies. <g> So I then had a very fussy and wired baby. Sherry "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:fx7xa.774$Io.61555@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ritalin (methylphenidate hydrochloride) is a stimulant medication. It is > basically like "speed." Like other stimulants such as coffee, it works as a > depressant on children. Ritalin is often used on hyperactive children. My > nephew took it, and it was really a wonder drug for him. > It was not used this way on me. It was used as speed on me because all I > could do was lie on my bed or couch. The docs wanted to get me out of the > hospital so they put me on something they knew I had responded to in the > past. I had a hard crash two weeks after I got home, and could not do > anything. > I don’t know where the changing point is, but somewhere along the line in > puberty, Ritalin stops working as a depressent on people, and on adults it > is a stimulant. When it worked on me, it made me feel wonderful. Imagine > going from lying on the bed, unable to move, to being up and feeling > wonderful, wanting to be released from the hospital and take my husband on a > vacation. If asked what I would rather have, medication-wise, I always sort > of go…"ritalin? percocet?… oh, sorry… I guess maybe we should hunt > for the right antidepressant!" > M > "J" <J@MungedA…@example.com> wrote in message > news:3EC4DECE.4224BC08@execulink.com… > > one doc wanted me to take it (to counter fatique – sleepiness) and I see > some on > > the fibro newsgroup do. > > My question is how does that help a person who has continual poor or not > enough > > sleep? <rhetorial> > > It’s kind of like runnning on empty all the time. Just a quick-fix that > really > > doesn’t solve the problem. > > Seems to me, that must be hard on the heart > > J > > Beverley wrote: > > > Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child doesn’t > > > need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. Unfortunately > too > > > many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored or > > > bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention > deficit > > > and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do not > apply > > > to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were fine. > I’ve > > > seen several other children who were placed on it and should have never > been > > > given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare when > it > > > isn’t. > > > Bev > > > "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message > > > news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… > > > > Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to > slow > > > > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving > her > > > > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > > > > Ritalin is addictive > > > > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom)
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I agree kids that need it are calmed immensely. Kids that don’t are either on the ceiling or sound asleep! I had to laugh even if it is not funny but my friend’s granddaughter is on Ritalin. The grandson is fine but when the parents gave him something (doc Rx) one time for a bad cold he went berserk. Finally about 10:30 at night they put him outside in the back yard (fenced) and closed the kitchen door. As frazzled as the parents nerves were and what he did to his older sister – it was the safest place for him. Thank goodness Social Services wasn’t around, I’m sure they would have charged the parents with something! About 2 hours later he quit kicking and screaming and they could bring him back inside. Neither parent slept that night. Decongestants are known for wiring some kids while putting others under. (It raises my blood pressure to unbelievable heights!) I don’t like Motrin. I know so many parents who use it. My feeling is if a child is sick then keep them quiet. Let a low grade fever burn and do what it is supposed to do. But today with both parents working they just dose the child with Motrin and send them to school! Bev "Sherry" <hurst…@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
news:wE9xa.664$lm1.76650726@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mary, > Hyperactive children have a "reverse" reaction to stimulants. Give them > coffee or "speed" and it slows them down. Also if you give them something > that would make the "normal" child sleep it wires them to the hilt! Seems > that their chemistry and wires are all backwards. > Instead of using Ritalin or a similar drug when my son was hyper the doctor > told me to give him a cup of coffee (no sugar) and it "calmed" him. When he > was teething his poor little teeth would not break through the gums and he > went days and days that he was awake and crying….the doc gave me a "little > something" that was supposed to help him get some sleep. It wired him to > the skies. <g> So I then had a very fussy and wired baby. > Sherry > "Mary T. Rawle" <stin…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:fx7xa.774$Io.61555@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > Ritalin (methylphenidate hydrochloride) is a stimulant medication. It is > > basically like "speed." Like other stimulants such as coffee, it works as > a > > depressant on children. Ritalin is often used on hyperactive children. > My > > nephew took it, and it was really a wonder drug for him. > > It was not used this way on me. It was used as speed on me because all I > > could do was lie on my bed or couch. The docs wanted to get me out of the > > hospital so they put me on something they knew I had responded to in the > > past. I had a hard crash two weeks after I got home, and could not do > > anything. > > I don’t know where the changing point is, but somewhere along the line in > > puberty, Ritalin stops working as a depressent on people, and on adults it > > is a stimulant. When it worked on me, it made me feel wonderful. Imagine > > going from lying on the bed, unable to move, to being up and feeling > > wonderful, wanting to be released from the hospital and take my husband on > a > > vacation. If asked what I would rather have, medication-wise, I always > sort > > of go…"ritalin? percocet?… oh, sorry… I guess maybe we should hunt > > for the right antidepressant!" > > M > > "J" <J@MungedA…@example.com> wrote in message > > news:3EC4DECE.4224BC08@execulink.com… > > > one doc wanted me to take it (to counter fatique – sleepiness) and I see > > some on > > > the fibro newsgroup do. > > > My question is how does that help a person who has continual poor or not > > enough > > > sleep? <rhetorial> > > > It’s kind of like runnning on empty all the time. Just a quick-fix that > > really > > > doesn’t solve the problem. > > > Seems to me, that must be hard on the heart > > > J > > > Beverley wrote: > > > > Ritalin when a child needs it is a wonder drug. But if the child > doesn’t > > > > need to be on Ritalin it does weird things to the child. Unfortunately > > too > > > > many kids are being labeled AD/HD when they should be labeled bored or > > > > bratty. There’s a big difference between a hyperactive or attention > > deficit > > > > and a bright child who is bored or a child who thinks the rules do not > > apply > > > > to him/her. I’ve known several children on Ritalin and they were fine. > > I’ve > > > > seen several other children who were placed on it and should have > never > > been > > > > given the drug! It’s a blessing when it is needed and a nightmare when > > it > > > > isn’t. > > > > Bev > > > > "Medwyn" <med…@medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message > > > > news:vc8jhuk1ap3u38@corp.supernews.com… > > > > > Ritalin, is a stimulant given to people with ADD because it helps to > > slow > > > > > them down. My step-daughter took it for awhile and we fought giving > > her > > > > > meds. Now she is on one that is safer > > > > > Ritalin is addictive > > > > > Heather (not a doc but informed stepmom)
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