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"Crafty Bernardo" <craftyberna…@home.com> wrote in message
news:eof93u43mfd6u0ufkq8t6nchdhnvmvei5u@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:38:56 GMT, "tiny dancer" > <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote: > >I’ve been taking xanax for over ten years and never had a problem with > >addiction. I’ve gone off it a couple times without any problem, except my > >anxiety returning. I’m certainly not an expert but from my experience I’d > >say as long as you stick with the prescribed dose I doubt you’d get addicted > >to it. In fact I usually take a bit less than prescribed. I vary depending > >upon what I have to do at any particular time. If I have very stressful > >days I take the amount recommended…..if my days are less stressful I leave > >one dose out that day. As Ken said…it certainly doesn’t knock me out, > >just takes the edge off. Just as an aside…my therapist said he thought I > >would not be a good candidate for EMDR…..in fact he stressed he thought it > >would do me more harm than good. > >td > Hey TD, glad it’s working for you. I finally got a benzo, Klonopin, > but I think the dose is a bit low. I only get 3 .5s per day. It has > made a big difference in my racing thoughts. Now when I wake up in the > morning, I don’t have thoughts racing over the next 8 years. It has > made a big difference. BTW, if you don’t mind, how much do you get per > day. If you are uncomfortable saying, please don’t. I am just curious > about what works for others. > Best, > Rick
Hi Rick, Glad to hear you were able to ‘get some’. Sorry, just had to type it that way as it sounded kind of funny to me! Guess I’m in a silly mood today! I think Klonopin is much like xanax, I think that’s what my therapist said. No, I don’t mind at all. When I first started I think I was on .25 morning and afternoon and .5 at night. After awhile he raised it to .5 two times a day and 1mg at bedtime. Then I took myself off all meds for a couple years…….just got disgusted with my treatment at the time……but I did get much worse….isolating myself from any contact outside of my immediate family. And my stress levels went way up, sky high, even had blood pressure problems for the first time in my life. My blood pressure has always been quite low. So I finally agreed to go back on meds again. That’s when I started the 150mg zoloft and he started me out on 1mg xanax morning, afternoon, and nighttime. I did that for quite a while…..then told him I wanted to cut back to the .5mg for the morning and afternoon doses once again and 1 mg at bedtime. So that’s where I am now, but if I’m home and things aren’t particularly stressful I skip the afternoon dose and just take the .5mg in the morning and the 1 mg at bedtime. And now he’s added the 10mg ambien along with it at bedtime and I sleep better than I had before. My god it takes me lots of words to say the simplest of things doesn’t it! I’m sorry, I write the way I talk!! Best, td
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td, Shannon, I recently had a long talk with my Pdoc (who is turning out to be a better doctor than I first thought). We talked partly about my current med, Klonipin, and the other benzos that were available. He said that if I ever wanted or needed to come off a benzo, a long acting (sustained release and slow breakdown)ones like Klonipin was the easiest and safest. He said that most people have few problems anyway. He also felt, YMMV, that the long acting benzos worked the best for severe chronic anxiety. jjgs "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:AKNY7.21325$8e2.10567051@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Ken Alvey" <hoosier…@home.com> wrote in message > news:8DNY7.13545$LQ1.5753029@news2.nash1.tn.home.com… > > Shannon, > > Sounds like we share a lot of the same hesitation about treatments. EMDR > > has just recently been offered to me. I tried the group stuff…not doing > > that with them again. > > Just a note about xanax: I have been taking xanax for about a year now. I > > am not addicted. I think it is a good drug for my anxiety. I do have a > high > > anxiety level, but that means the xanax mostly takes the sharp edge off, > it > > doesn’t knock me out. Of course I know we are all different, but just > wanted > > to let you know that it’s working for me. > > Best wishes > > Ken > I’ve been taking xanax for over ten years and never had a problem with > addiction. I’ve gone off it a couple times without any problem, except my > anxiety returning. I’m certainly not an expert but from my experience I’d > say as long as you stick with the prescribed dose I doubt you’d get addicted > to it. In fact I usually take a bit less than prescribed. I vary depending > upon what I have to do at any particular time. If I have very stressful > days I take the amount recommended…..if my days are less stressful I leave > one dose out that day. As Ken said…it certainly doesn’t knock me out, > just takes the edge off. Just as an aside…my therapist said he thought I > would not be a good candidate for EMDR…..in fact he stressed he thought it > would do me more harm than good. > td > > "Shannon" <ah…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message > > news:20020102191006.22156.00002471@mb-mq.aol.com… > > > I had a long overdue therapy appt. today and was told I am now in a new > > phase > > > of therapy and both EMDR and group therapy are being offered. > > > Got my stomach tied in knots because I’m not sure I want to do either. > > The > > > EMDR scares me because what event is going to go first and how will I > > respond. > > > The group I’m afraid of because of other peoples experiences. Would be > > just my > > > luck to have to sit next to someone whose PTSD was caused by their dog > > dying or > > > to get in a situation like Kat2 described, my trauma is worse than > yours. > > > In any case I have much to think about. > > > The T is also recomending zanax instead of the valium I am now using > > > occasionally. Don’t know what the difference is there all I know is > > they’re > > > both addictive. That advice is being forwarded to my doc who will have > to > > > decide. > > > Got a lecture about not isolating, won’t even get into that. I’m here > > aren’t > > > I? > > > Shannon
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"JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:u39ph2pj77dd41@corp.supernews.com… > td, Shannon, > I recently had a long talk with my Pdoc (who is turning out to be a better > doctor than I first thought). We talked partly about my current med, > Klonipin, and the other benzos that were available. He said that if I ever > wanted or needed to come off a benzo, a long acting (sustained release and > slow breakdown)ones like Klonipin was the easiest and safest. He said that > most people have few problems anyway. He also felt, YMMV, that the long > acting benzos worked the best for severe chronic anxiety. > jjgs
If/when you ‘come off’ of them they back you down in doseage gradually over a period of a couple weeks, and other than the anxiety returning….I didn’t have any other significant side effects from coming off them. Certainly nothing more than say ‘cutting caffine’ out of your diet. This was just my experience……..so I don’t know about others. td – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:AKNY7.21325$8e2.10567051@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… > > "Ken Alvey" <hoosier…@home.com> wrote in message > > news:8DNY7.13545$LQ1.5753029@news2.nash1.tn.home.com… > > > Shannon, > > > Sounds like we share a lot of the same hesitation about treatments. > EMDR > > > has just recently been offered to me. I tried the group stuff…not > doing > > > that with them again. > > > Just a note about xanax: I have been taking xanax for about a year now. > I > > > am not addicted. I think it is a good drug for my anxiety. I do have a > > high > > > anxiety level, but that means the xanax mostly takes the sharp edge off, > > it > > > doesn’t knock me out. Of course I know we are all different, but just > > wanted > > > to let you know that it’s working for me. > > > Best wishes > > > Ken > > I’ve been taking xanax for over ten years and never had a problem with > > addiction. I’ve gone off it a couple times without any problem, except my > > anxiety returning. I’m certainly not an expert but from my experience I’d > > say as long as you stick with the prescribed dose I doubt you’d get > addicted > > to it. In fact I usually take a bit less than prescribed. I vary > depending > > upon what I have to do at any particular time. If I have very stressful > > days I take the amount recommended…..if my days are less stressful I > leave > > one dose out that day. As Ken said…it certainly doesn’t knock me out, > > just takes the edge off. Just as an aside…my therapist said he thought > I > > would not be a good candidate for EMDR…..in fact he stressed he thought > it > > would do me more harm than good. > > td > > > "Shannon" <ah…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message > > > news:20020102191006.22156.00002471@mb-mq.aol.com… > > > > I had a long overdue therapy appt. today and was told I am now in a > new > > > phase > > > > of therapy and both EMDR and group therapy are being offered. > > > > Got my stomach tied in knots because I’m not sure I want to do either. > > > The > > > > EMDR scares me because what event is going to go first and how will I > > > respond. > > > > The group I’m afraid of because of other peoples experiences. Would > be > > > just my > > > > luck to have to sit next to someone whose PTSD was caused by their dog > > > dying or > > > > to get in a situation like Kat2 described, my trauma is worse than > > yours. > > > > In any case I have much to think about. > > > > The T is also recomending zanax instead of the valium I am now using > > > > occasionally. Don’t know what the difference is there all I know is > > > they’re > > > > both addictive. That advice is being forwarded to my doc who will have > > to > > > > decide. > > > > Got a lecture about not isolating, won’t even get into that. I’m here > > > aren’t > > > > I? > > > > Shannon
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They’ve even got me to quit smoking along with the rest. And they wonder why I’m depressed! jj "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1o9Z7.47898$mp3.23365004@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message > news:u3a8tc28hnbmdb@corp.supernews.com… > > No way td, I draw the line at cutting down my caffeine. I’ve given up wine > > and pot, the only way they’ll get my cup of coffee is to pry it from my > dead > > cold fingers. (Always wanted to say that but never could find a funny way > to > > do it) > Sounds like me……my coffee cup and my cigarette! > td
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Hi jj! Sugar is next! > They’ve even got me to quit smoking along with the rest. And they wonder why > I’m depressed!
Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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"JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:u3a9jd38b2pkb3@corp.supernews.com… > They’ve even got me to quit smoking along with the rest. And they wonder why > I’m depressed! > jj
I’ve tried to quit smoking…….man talk about anxiety! I go really Nuts then! Bet it would be much easier to conquer in Nutville than all alone. td – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1o9Z7.47898$mp3.23365004@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… > > "JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message > > news:u3a8tc28hnbmdb@corp.supernews.com… > > > No way td, I draw the line at cutting down my caffeine. I’ve given up > wine > > > and pot, the only way they’ll get my cup of coffee is to pry it from my > > dead > > > cold fingers. (Always wanted to say that but never could find a funny > way > > to > > > do it) > > Sounds like me……my coffee cup and my cigarette! > > td
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That’s so funny jj because my caffeine use is always asked about. I gave up the soda, but that wake up cup (cups), no way! Shannon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->No way td, I draw the line at cutting down my caffeine. I’ve given up wine >and pot, the only way they’ll get my cup of coffee is to pry it from my dead >cold fingers. (Always wanted to say that but never could find a funny way to >do it) >jj
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Sugar, Nancy? They wouldn’t do that would they. Now I’m really depressed. Does chocolate have sugar in it? jj "Nancy" <ki…@cris.com> wrote in message
news:a13bci$sir@dispatch.concentric.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi jj! > Sugar is next! > > They’ve even got me to quit smoking along with the rest. And they wonder > why > > I’m depressed! > Smile and there will be something to smile about! > Nancy
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Called the person that does EMDR to ask some questions. She asked what med’s I was on and in my assortment is the antivert that I’ve been taking for Vertigo. Conversation ended there. She told me EMDR is not recomended if a person has vertigo and to wait until it clears up. It’s not clearing up. Went to doc this morning and still have fluid in my ears. Doc told me to be patient, could take a while. Think I’m properly medicated though. Got Zanax and Ambien to add to the Wellbutrin. First legal mix for me. Shannon
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Phhhht, quit smoking??? Why? What’s wrong with smoking?! Obvious Kristine
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Hi JJGS! > Thanks Robert, but I was just having fun with Nancy, who I knew in another > lifetime.
OK … now you’ve got me terrified. Take it to private email if needed, but don’t say something like this without warning me. It’s a real splat …. gotta go find the Buspar! Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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Thanks Robert, but I was just having fun with Nancy, who I knew in another lifetime. You never know though, maybe the "cure" for PTSD has no sugar as a part of it. I’m not sure I’m ready to live in a world without sugar and the "normal" people seem as screwed up as we are, only in different ways. jj "Robert McConnell" <rmcconne.NOS…@lightlink.com> wrote in message
news:utmc3uksd3h649p1fq9d4v7gg5ichequ5m@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi JJ, > Most of the chocolate candies and hot cocoa do have sugar, and lots of > it. But, the dark chocolates and semi-sweet have much less (and are > all the better for it). > You might also think about switching to honey and maple syrup for your > sweets. They’re much easier to digest than cane or beet sugar, and > taste better as well. Just don’t confuse Vermont Maid and Mr’s > Butterworth with maple syrup. They’re both made from corn syrup. > Bob McConnell > N2SPP
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Hi Shannon! > First legal mix for me.
Thank goodness! Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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Hi JJ, Most of the chocolate candies and hot cocoa do have sugar, and lots of it. But, the dark chocolates and semi-sweet have much less (and are all the better for it). You might also think about switching to honey and maple syrup for your sweets. They’re much easier to digest than cane or beet sugar, and taste better as well. Just don’t confuse Vermont Maid and Mr’s Butterworth with maple syrup. They’re both made from corn syrup. Bob McConnell N2SPP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:11:46 -0800, "JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote: >Sugar, Nancy? They wouldn’t do that would they. Now I’m really depressed. >Does chocolate have sugar in it? >jj >"Nancy" <ki…@cris.com> wrote in message >news:a13bci$sir@dispatch.concentric.net… >> Hi jj! >> Sugar is next! >> > They’ve even got me to quit smoking along with the rest. And they wonder >> why >> > I’m depressed! >> Smile and there will be something to smile about! >> Nancy
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No way td, I draw the line at cutting down my caffeine. I’ve given up wine and pot, the only way they’ll get my cup of coffee is to pry it from my dead cold fingers. (Always wanted to say that but never could find a funny way to do it) jj "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%X8Z7.47892$mp3.23334235@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message > news:u39ph2pj77dd41@corp.supernews.com… > > td, Shannon, > > I recently had a long talk with my Pdoc (who is turning out to be a better > > doctor than I first thought). We talked partly about my current med, > > Klonipin, and the other benzos that were available. He said that if I ever > > wanted or needed to come off a benzo, a long acting (sustained release and > > slow breakdown)ones like Klonipin was the easiest and safest. He said that > > most people have few problems anyway. He also felt, YMMV, that the long > > acting benzos worked the best for severe chronic anxiety. > > jjgs > If/when you ‘come off’ of them they back you down in doseage gradually over > a period of a couple weeks, and other than the anxiety returning….I didn’t > have any other significant side effects from coming off them. Certainly > nothing more than say ‘cutting caffine’ out of your diet. This was just my > experience……..so I don’t know about others. > td
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"JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message
news:u3a8tc28hnbmdb@corp.supernews.com… > No way td, I draw the line at cutting down my caffeine. I’ve given up wine > and pot, the only way they’ll get my cup of coffee is to pry it from my dead > cold fingers. (Always wanted to say that but never could find a funny way to > do it)
Sounds like me……my coffee cup and my cigarette! td – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> jj > "tiny dancer" <tinydancer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%X8Z7.47892$mp3.23334235@typhoon.southeast.rr.com… > > "JJGS" <j…@charter.net> wrote in message > > news:u39ph2pj77dd41@corp.supernews.com… > > > td, Shannon, > > > I recently had a long talk with my Pdoc (who is turning out to be a > better > > > doctor than I first thought). We talked partly about my current med, > > > Klonipin, and the other benzos that were available. He said that if I > ever > > > wanted or needed to come off a benzo, a long acting (sustained release > and > > > slow breakdown)ones like Klonipin was the easiest and safest. He said > that > > > most people have few problems anyway. He also felt, YMMV, that the long > > > acting benzos worked the best for severe chronic anxiety. > > > jjgs > > If/when you ‘come off’ of them they back you down in doseage gradually > over > > a period of a couple weeks, and other than the anxiety returning….I > didn’t > > have any other significant side effects from coming off them. Certainly > > nothing more than say ‘cutting caffine’ out of your diet. This was just > my > > experience……..so I don’t know about others. > > td
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I’ve decieded I really do need help and have started looking in my area for someone who is experienced with ptsd to help me. The only problem is there is none. The few that have worked with ptsd have varrying results and are not allways sucessful. So i was wondering if anyone knew of any treatment programs that focus on ptsd. I’m sure they are out there but the ones i can find seem to be only for vets. I did manage to find two places one called The Center in washington, dc. The other was in Florida called the Women’s Institute fir Incorporation Therapy. Both are a long distancec from Arkansas. Any help would be greatly apreciated. Joanne
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Hi Joanne: Any "Behavioral Health " treatment facility offers treatment for PTSD. (No, I don’t mean the "State Hospital" where you are committed) Most treatment centers that treat "addiction issues", "Depression" also treat PTSD! You have to search around to find them. The only thing you will get on the net are VA facilities. Here is a listing that may prove very helpful to you (and others here). The first gives a list of States which have "clinical Trials" going on…and most are free!!! The rest are resources for behavioral heath hospitals and/or information! Enjoy joanne, hope this really helps you? SAM (VMO5 Da Nang) http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/studies/cat122.html http://www.ncptsd.org/about/history/ http://www.umdnj.edu/psyevnts/ptsd.html http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/hospitalweb.shtml =========================================================================== ========================== – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Joanne Johnson wrote: > I’ve decieded I really do need help and have started looking in my area > for someone who is experienced with ptsd to help me. The only problem > is there is none. The few that have worked with ptsd have varrying > results and are not allways sucessful. > So i was wondering if anyone knew of any treatment programs that focus > on ptsd. I’m sure they are out there but the ones i can find seem to be > only for vets. I did manage to find two places one called The Center in > washington, dc. The other was in Florida called the Women’s Institute > fir Incorporation Therapy. Both are a long distancec from Arkansas. > Any help would be greatly apreciated. > Joanne
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I had a long overdue therapy appt. today and was told I am now in a new phase of therapy and both EMDR and group therapy are being offered. Got my stomach tied in knots because I’m not sure I want to do either. The EMDR scares me because what event is going to go first and how will I respond. The group I’m afraid of because of other peoples experiences. Would be just my luck to have to sit next to someone whose PTSD was caused by their dog dying or to get in a situation like Kat2 described, my trauma is worse than yours. In any case I have much to think about. The T is also recomending zanax instead of the valium I am now using occasionally. Don’t know what the difference is there all I know is they’re both addictive. That advice is being forwarded to my doc who will have to decide. Got a lecture about not isolating, won’t even get into that. I’m here aren’t I? Shannon
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Shannon, Sounds like we share a lot of the same hesitation about treatments. EMDR has just recently been offered to me. I tried the group stuff…not doing that with them again. Just a note about xanax: I have been taking xanax for about a year now. I am not addicted. I think it is a good drug for my anxiety. I do have a high anxiety level, but that means the xanax mostly takes the sharp edge off, it doesn’t knock me out. Of course I know we are all different, but just wanted to let you know that it’s working for me. Best wishes Ken "Shannon" <ah…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20020102191006.22156.00002471@mb-mq.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a long overdue therapy appt. today and was told I am now in a new phase > of therapy and both EMDR and group therapy are being offered. > Got my stomach tied in knots because I’m not sure I want to do either. The > EMDR scares me because what event is going to go first and how will I respond. > The group I’m afraid of because of other peoples experiences. Would be just my > luck to have to sit next to someone whose PTSD was caused by their dog dying or > to get in a situation like Kat2 described, my trauma is worse than yours. > In any case I have much to think about. > The T is also recomending zanax instead of the valium I am now using > occasionally. Don’t know what the difference is there all I know is they’re > both addictive. That advice is being forwarded to my doc who will have to > decide. > Got a lecture about not isolating, won’t even get into that. I’m here aren’t > I? > Shannon
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"Ken Alvey" <hoosier…@home.com> wrote in message
news:8DNY7.13545$LQ1.5753029@news2.nash1.tn.home.com… > Shannon, > Sounds like we share a lot of the same hesitation about treatments. EMDR > has just recently been offered to me. I tried the group stuff…not doing > that with them again. > Just a note about xanax: I have been taking xanax for about a year now. I > am not addicted. I think it is a good drug for my anxiety. I do have a high > anxiety level, but that means the xanax mostly takes the sharp edge off, it > doesn’t knock me out. Of course I know we are all different, but just wanted > to let you know that it’s working for me. > Best wishes > Ken
I’ve been taking xanax for over ten years and never had a problem with addiction. I’ve gone off it a couple times without any problem, except my anxiety returning. I’m certainly not an expert but from my experience I’d say as long as you stick with the prescribed dose I doubt you’d get addicted to it. In fact I usually take a bit less than prescribed. I vary depending upon what I have to do at any particular time. If I have very stressful days I take the amount recommended…..if my days are less stressful I leave one dose out that day. As Ken said…it certainly doesn’t knock me out, just takes the edge off. Just as an aside…my therapist said he thought I would not be a good candidate for EMDR…..in fact he stressed he thought it would do me more harm than good. td – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Shannon" <ah…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message > news:20020102191006.22156.00002471@mb-mq.aol.com… > > I had a long overdue therapy appt. today and was told I am now in a new > phase > > of therapy and both EMDR and group therapy are being offered. > > Got my stomach tied in knots because I’m not sure I want to do either. > The > > EMDR scares me because what event is going to go first and how will I > respond. > > The group I’m afraid of because of other peoples experiences. Would be > just my > > luck to have to sit next to someone whose PTSD was caused by their dog > dying or > > to get in a situation like Kat2 described, my trauma is worse than yours. > > In any case I have much to think about. > > The T is also recomending zanax instead of the valium I am now using > > occasionally. Don’t know what the difference is there all I know is > they’re > > both addictive. That advice is being forwarded to my doc who will have to > > decide. > > Got a lecture about not isolating, won’t even get into that. I’m here > aren’t > > I? > > Shannon
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