Question:
I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights? I am depressed. I cancelled my appointment with the therp that I had been assigned to (the one that was asking me ? so she could treat her one and only other DID) The last session I took my SO, JA with me. JA knows alot about DID and when the therp started firing ? at us and we started to switch real fast, the therp accused us of playing games- that’s when JA interrupted and told her "No! They are not game playing!" Then JA had to explain why we were switching so much. Later, I ask the therp if she had ever witnessed an abreaction. (DUH) "no" she says. So we explain what an abreaction is and asked her if she would be quick to throw us in the local psyc ward if we had a bad abreaction. She said that if during the ‘event’, she felt that we might harm ourselves or others that yes, she would have me transfered. Well, at that point, all of the group started fleeing to the safe room, the hiding room, the cloud room- anywhere but there. They have all told me that they WILL NOT come out and talk to her again- she’s been tagged as the enemy. I called my case worker and tried to tell her what happened and she said, "There is nothing I can do- that’s between you and your therp." Then my case worker turned around and called my therp and told her I called and why. I feel like I am in a nightmare but only I’m awake.
Response:
Judith, I can completely understand your frustration with the screwed up mental health system. I wish there was something I could do, but I would say that this therapist is definitely a royal *ss and I would be wary about being with her. It seems like you’re getting a lot more support from your SO and thank god for that or I’d be more concerned about you. It’s so frustrating because people just aren’t trained to deal with dissociative disorders and if the conditions are misunderstood, these people are in the position to do so much damage. Can you think of any way to get another therapist? Could you try a different city and commute or talk to the case worker’s supervisor? I just feel so powerless to help you. But know that we’re all here on the nets trying to support you. Hopefully something will happen for the better. Take care, Cyn & co. I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights? I am depressed. I cancelled my appointment with the therp that I had been assigned to (the one that was asking me ? so she could treat her one and only other DID) The last session I took my SO, JA with me. JA knows alot about DID and when the therp started firing ? at us and we started to switch real fast, the therp accused us of playing games- that’s when JA interrupted and told her "No! They are not game playing!" Then JA had to explain why we were switching so much. Later, I ask the therp if she had ever witnessed an abreaction. (DUH) "no" she says. So we explain what an abreaction is and asked her if she would be quick to throw us in the local psyc ward if we had a bad abreaction. She said that if during the ‘event’, she felt that we might harm ourselves or others that yes, she would have me transfered. Well, at that point, all of the group started fleeing to the safe room, the hiding room, the cloud room- anywhere but there. They have all told me that they WILL NOT come out and talk to her again- she’s been tagged as the enemy. I called my case worker and tried to tell her what happened and she said, "There is nothing I can do- that’s between you and your therp." Then my case worker turned around and called my therp and told her I called and why. I feel like I am in a nightmare but only I’m awake.
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This might be a drastic kind of solution, but it sounds like your therapist is going to be a real pain to educate. I never mind doing this when it seems to help and doesn’t interfere with my treatment, but this woman sounds pretty clueless! Could you consider going to a therapist of _your_ choice and paying out of pocket? I know it’s expensive (I’ve done it for four years now) but it does put the control in _your_ hands and removes the clueless from harming you. By doing this you enter into an agreement between you and your new therapist that is based on what they expect to be paid and what you can affor. You will have to work out all the money details and such, but in the end you _never_ have to tell your insurance company _anything_ because it is literally none of their business!
Of course hospitalizations will be done differently if you ever go, but if you can stay out (or minimize them to specific usage) it’s not bad. I’ve had to adjust my lifestyle to accept the fact that my free money is tied up in therapy and not in fun, but it isn’t as if I’m at poverty’s door, so it’s not too bad. I would say if you would have to give up necessities (food, shelter, chocolate, transportation, etc) to do this than don’t. You can always use your therapy sessions to work on present day stuff and keep the multiplicity out of it (yeah, easier said than done!) if necessary, but I would hope that even fewer visits with someone competent would be better than alot of visits with someone who is doing harm. Just to give you a basis for comparison. I saw a woman in Lombard, IL who charged $40 a session. I saw a man in Schaumburg, IL who charged $95 a session, and I’m seeing someone in Denver, CO now for $65 a session. They were all great therapists! The one I see now is the only one considered an ‘expert’ in the field; he has an MA. The woman was an LCSW, and the other man was a PhD, who first figured out that I was multiple. (which has nothing to do with his degree of education btw:) All of them were willing to negotiate the fee with me as needed. When I moved here, before I got a job, I paid $50 for example. (he asked me what I could afford, I picked that amount). Not that any of this is easy of course! I am currently struggling with the idea of seeing my therapist more than once a week. My biggest problem is the money, and I haven’t even _talked_ to him about that part of it yet!
_he’s_ going to be fine with this, but it’s going to be tough for me to come up with an amount that I believe is ‘fair’ that I can afford (how do you put a price on healing?) Whatever you decide, you have my support and understanding! Rainbow Colors (Jill) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights? I am depressed. I cancelled my appointment with the therp that I had been assigned to (the one that was asking me ? so she could treat her one and only other DID) The last session I took my SO, JA with me. JA knows alot about DID and when the therp started firing ? at us and we started to switch real fast, the therp accused us of playing games- that’s when JA interrupted and told her "No! They are not game playing!" Then JA had to explain why we were switching so much. Later, I ask the therp if she had ever witnessed an abreaction. (DUH) "no" she says. So we explain what an abreaction is and asked her if she would be quick to throw us in the local psyc ward if we had a bad abreaction. She said that if during the ‘event’, she felt that we might harm ourselves or others that yes, she would have me transfered. Well, at that point, all of the group started fleeing to the safe room, the hiding room, the cloud room- anywhere but there. They have all told me that they WILL NOT come out and talk to her again- she’s been tagged as the enemy. I called my case worker and tried to tell her what happened and she said, "There is nothing I can do- that’s between you and your therp." Then my case worker turned around and called my therp and told her I called and why. I feel like I am in a nightmare but only I’m awake.
– I choose to post non-anon because my abusers are afraid. They would have to admit something happened in order to confront me; this they will never do. They are the only people who will be upset if they know who I am, and they are too afraid to admit to what they did. Black of Rainbow Colors
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Me, too, I think this therp sounds like an idiot. I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time. I hope pink bunnies’ suggestions help—-I hope you get a better therp. mouse – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights? yuk! yuk! YUK!
sorry she is such an idiot. it looks like you have four choices, none of which are perfect, some of which are prolly not acceptable. – you could stay with her and hope things work themselves out. we are not sure that we could recommend this in good conscience. – you could forego therapy altogether. another not-good choice. – you could go the self-pay route. this gives you complete freedom to find someone you can work with with no interference from anyone anywhere. the downside to this is that it costs money you might not have. – you could agitate with your insurance company. if you were to do this, we suggest that you contact your caseworker’s supervisor and request a meeting. at that meeting, you could present the following information: * this therapist is uninformed about how to treat your condition, and has no experience with things common to treating ptsd, such as abreactions. * this means that paying this therapist to treat you is a *waste*of*the*insurance*company’s*MONEY*. * in addition, you could tell them that this therp has said that she would hospitalize you under conditions in which you would *not*NEED* hospitalization (you know this from experience in treatment with your old therp), which would be *even*MORE*of*a*WASTE*of*the*insurance*company’s*MONEY*. *you could tell them that you have a history of good experience in treatment, and you are willing to work *with* a therp, but you would like to work with one that can help you and *NOT*WASTE*the*insurance*company’s*MONEY*. it’s best to talk their language, you know :) pink bunnies / ~ ) All conditions are temporary `o’_* I am depressed. I cancelled my appointment with the therp that I had been assigned to (the one that was asking me ? so she could treat her one and only other DID) The last session I took my SO, JA with me. JA knows alot about DID and when the therp started firing ? at us and we started to switch real fast, the therp accused us of playing games- that’s when JA interrupted and told her "No! They are not game playing!" Then JA had to explain why we were switching so much. Later, I ask the therp if she had ever witnessed an abreaction. (DUH) "no" she says. So we explain what an abreaction is and asked her if she would be quick to throw us in the local psyc ward if we had a bad abreaction. She said that if during the ‘event’, she felt that we might harm ourselves or others that yes, she would have me transfered. Well, at that point, all of the group started fleeing to the safe room, the hiding room, the cloud room- anywhere but there. They have all told me that they WILL NOT come out and talk to her again- she’s been tagged as the enemy. I called my case worker and tried to tell her what happened and she said, "There is nothing I can do- that’s between you and your therp." Then my case worker turned around and called my therp and told her I called and why. I feel like I am in a nightmare but only I’m awake. — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights?
*If* you go back to her as therapist perhaps it should be only AFTER she does some basic reading on DID…basic texts like Ross’ and Putnam’s texts on the diagnosis and treatment of MPD??? Seeing an untrained therapist might only do more harm than good??? …Andy
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I decided that I had best spoiler this as it became more intense as I wrote. I don’t know what to do- I STUCK with a therp who dosen’t know s**t about DID. Don’t we have ANY rights? *If* you go back to her as therapist perhaps it should be only AFTER she does some basic reading on DID…basic texts like Ross’ and Putnam’s texts on the diagnosis and treatment of MPD??? Seeing an untrained therapist might only do more harm than good??? …Andy
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. …Andy
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I called my case worker and tried to tell her what happened and she said, "There is nothing I can do- that’s between you and your therp." Then my case worker turned around and called my therp and told her I called and why. I feel like I am in a nightmare but only I’m awake.
I would get on the phone and start calling a lawyer, the caseworker’s supervisor, and any licensing board (local AND state) and have this person’s credentials investigated and possibly revoked. Sorry that happened to you. They think that cus we need help putting our lives back together that we are sick retards who can’t find the bathroom by ourselves. Hit’em hard, and hit’em low…and while you are doing that, drown them in paperwork. THEY are stooopid–not you. Mmʲ
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