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http://www.emofree.com/
I’ve used it on myself for numerous issues, and it’s worked almost every time. I’ve also used it with friends, both in person and over the phone. I now intend to integrate it with my coaching practise. Bottom line: goto the web site, download the manual, try it yourself and see what happens. An hour of practice can save hundreds of Usenet arguments 
Ed — Are you living a life of passion, or just going through the motions? Totally risk free: you’re completely satisfied or 110% your money back. Canberra: (02) 6230-7145 Sydney, the rest of Australia: (02) 9475-1009 America: New York +1-212-214-0356 Europe: London +44-20-7504-8297
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently. well, if the book is available for loan at public or university libraries (free), let me know….i’ll read it. There is a book out on the same type of thing, based on TFT. It contains a bunch of algorithms. I came out last year. I think the name of it is Emotional Healing Technique or something like that. I can’t find the reference right now. That sounds like the book, Instant Emotional Healing which promotes a therapy called, IIRC, Emotional Self Management (ESM). That’s yet another spinoff of TFT, except the "algorithms" in that book are not official TFT algorithms and the authors never studied with Roger Callahan. The real TFT algorithms are in Tapping the Healer Within by Roger Callahan.
Yes, that is the book I was referring to. They said the technique was derived from TFT but it is not the same, which is why I suppose they gave it a different name. I would think there would be some differences between the technique they present and TFT. ..diane
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http://www.emofree.com/ I’ve used it on myself for numerous issues, and it’s worked almost every time. I’ve also used it with friends, both in person and over the phone. I now intend to integrate it with my coaching practise. Bottom line: goto the web site, download the manual, try it yourself and see what happens. An hour of practice can save hundreds of Usenet arguments Ed
Ed, they won’t bother. They would rather make judgements about something they know nothing about rather than spend a few minutes doing a simple little experiment and seeing for themselves. How would you use EFT in coaching? Is this sports related coaching, personal coaching, or professional coaching? My brother is interested in my working with him with EFT to get over a stumbling block he has with golfing competitively. I haven’t used it yet, but have the manuals for the site. ..diane
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Ed, they won’t bother. They would rather make judgements about something they know nothing about rather than spend a few minutes doing a simple little experiment and seeing for themselves.
Often the case 
How would you use EFT in coaching? Is this sports related coaching, personal coaching, or professional coaching?
Use EFT to clear up what’s holding ‘em back, all the away froms. Then help them design the future they really want, not what somebody else sold them. This is of course a bit of a simplification My brother is interested in my working with him with EFT to get over a stumbling block he has with golfing competitively. I haven’t used it yet, but have the manuals for the site.
Yes, I’ve read up on the golf articles, and am drafting letters to the local clubs. I’m sure it’ll be an interesting journey for all of us! Ed — Are you living a life of passion, or just going through the motions? Totally risk free: you’re completely satisfied or 110% your money back. Canberra: (02) 6230-7145 Sydney, the rest of Australia: (02) 9475-1009 America: New York +1-212-214-0356 Europe: London +44-20-7504-8297
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Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently. well, if the book is available for loan at public or university libraries (free), let me know….i’ll read it.
There is a book out on the same type of thing, based on TFT. It contains a bunch of algorithms. I came out last year. I think the name of it is Emotional Healing Technique or something like that. I can’t find the reference right now. ..diane
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently. well, if the book is available for loan at public or university libraries (free), let me know….i’ll read it. There is a book out on the same type of thing, based on TFT. It contains a bunch of algorithms. I came out last year. I think the name of it is Emotional Healing Technique or something like that. I can’t find the reference right now.
That sounds like the book, Instant Emotional Healing which promotes a therapy called, IIRC, Emotional Self Management (ESM). That’s yet another spinoff of TFT, except the "algorithms" in that book are not official TFT algorithms and the authors never studied with Roger Callahan. The real TFT algorithms are in Tapping the Healer Within by Roger Callahan. — Monica Pignotti
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That sounds like the book, Instant Emotional Healing which promotes a therapy called, IIRC, Emotional Self Management (ESM). That’s yet another spinoff of TFT, except the "algorithms" in that book are not official TFT algorithms and the authors never studied with Roger Callahan. The real TFT algorithms are in "Real" TFT algorithms?? Where is the evidence that the algorithms used by Callahan are superior to those provided by ESM??? Maybe it is a matter of your guess is as good as mine.
All I can tell you is that I’ve had a number of people who read that book call me and ask for my help because the algorithms in that book did not work for them and then I am able to help them. Roger Callahan has been doing this work for more than 21 years, so his procedures have been tested over a longer period of time than any of the offshoots. — Monica Pignotti
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I don’t know about the "cure all" aspect of it. From what I know about it, EMDR is most effective at handling trauma, rather than fixing every condition known to the APA. That is not to say, however, that its proponents haven’t been hyping it to the moon. I don’t know about that.
Agreed. A shrink in the psyche unit accross the way from me has started using EMDR. I applaud him for using an approach that differs from the usual "drug em up to keep em quiet" approach, but this guy has gone EMDR crazy (a bit like the "cell salt" brigade, i guess). This guy claims to be able to treat PTSD, phobias, OCD, bulimia, depression…just about everything. Unfortunately, the clients that consult me tell me a different story. Too many practitioners miss the disparity between their theory and their behaviour. Most of us are also aware, that when it comes to getting results, we have a tendancy to see what we want to see. Whilst EMDR might be effective, i suspect that the presentation of the technique will hugely influence it`s effectiveness. Certainly, in my experience in neurosurgery, i met some brilliant people in a technical sense, but they tended to negatively influence their patients through their general behaviour and demeanor. As a hypnotist, i know that i can reproduce better results than most, say, homeopaths, by using identical techniques to the homeopath etc, except that i can present it in such a way that I maximise the healing potential in the client. I beleive this to be true for most healing techniques, whether they be by surgery, prozac or by even by "cell salts". It is wrong to dismiss this effect as simply "placebo" (in the manner of "if we give it a name, then we pretend that we understand it") and it is important to be aware of the presentation of the information we beleive that we possess. What i find terribly frustrating is the way people tend to beleive in the "Grand Unified Theory" of treatment – ie, some people will always say that their chosen method of treatment is the only real way of treating people. The blind faith of the practitioner doesn`t always transfer onto the patient, and can do a great harm to a technique that potentially has positive rewards. For example, there are people on this newgroup, who would be immediately laughed out of any orthodox practice (ie hospital) – not because the orthodox practitioners are ignorant, but because the ignorance of the alternative type is merely equaled. In this newsgroup, when someone posts asking for advise, we can pretty well predict who will reccomend which `treatment` – they tend to reccomend the same thing everytime. Not only is this undesirable, but it tends to demonstrate the person as being somewhat of a loon – of the "It worked for me, so it will work for you too" type. Learn flexibility. Just an idle ramble, Regards, Andrew "once found a 7" bug in a curry in West Bengal" Austin.
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I think you refer to EMDR. (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing) It`s a bit of a laborious technique, where the subject follows the path of a light moving accross a screen or a panel of little lights. Basically, the eyes are swept from side to side for a while. I suspect that EMDR does work very well for some people – certainly, the neurological theory behind the technique appears sound. But i am sceptical about the claims made for it that it cures everything and is Grand Theory Cure All ( just like "cells salts" are).
I don’t know about the "cure all" aspect of it. From what I know about it, EMDR is most effective at handling trauma, rather than fixing every condition known to the APA. That is not to say, however, that its proponents haven’t been hyping it to the moon. I don’t know about that. — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders."
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Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently. well, if the book is available for loan at public or university libraries (free), let me know….i’ll read it.
It just came out about 2 weeks ago, so it’s probably not at any libraries yet, but I’m sure it eventually will be. — Monica Pignotti
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Is that the one where a "therapist" "cures" you with rapid eye movements?
No, you’re thinking of either EMDR or REM, which are very different from TFT. REM is, AFAIK, an offshoot of NLP. EMDR was discovered by psychologist Francine Shapiro. — Monica Pignotti
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Regrettably, EMDR practitioners try to gain some credence from the observation of the NLP camp that suggests that there exist "eye accessing cues" etc etc. It was with regret, yesterday, that i heard on an NLP training tape that, "when a person looks up to their left, this means they are remembering a picture." As a master practitioner of NLP, i despair when i hear these idiocies.
I’m also trained in NLP (Trainer level), and agree with you that there are many out there who don’t know what they’re doing, but I wanted to point out to you that EMDR is way ahead of NLP as far as gaining professional credence is concerned. EMDR has a number of studies published on it from in major peer reviewed journals and as a result, has a far higher rating from the APA than NLP does. I was at a conference recently where one of the studies was presented that showed EMDR to do just as well as cognitive therapy. I’m not trained in EMDR and have no financial interest in it, but I did want to point this out. Some NLP people have now developed a rapid eye technique called REM. I don’t know much about it except that it does something similar to what EMDR does. I suspect that EMDR does work very well for some people – certainly, the neurological theory behind the technique appears sound. But i am sceptical about the claims made for it that it cures everything and is Grand Theory Cure All ( just like "cells salts" are).
I know many people who do EMDR and I haven’t heard any of them making claims like this. They now have some very prominent psychistrists in their camp, such as Bessel van der Kolk. What I have heard from many of the people I know who practice it is that it works well for traumas, but not as well for other conditions, like depression. — Monica Pignotti
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Is that the one where a "therapist" "cures" you with rapid eye movements? frank
I don’t think so…..there is some other set of initials for whatever that is. There is some looking off in different directions with EFT but it’s definitely not that eye movement thing…. BL
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for something like insomnia or to simply relax a bit more intensely, i prefer using valerian to kava. i *have* noticed a bit of a sedated feeling the next morning when i have tried kava for insomnia. kava’s narcotic tendencies, i suppose. valerian stinks from belly to breakfast, but it works.
Sublingual Kava does absolutely nothing for me except for numbing the tongue- valerian is phew. Yup, 3 mg of melatonin is the ticket for insomnia for me. How the heck does one relax more "intensely" anyhow?? frank
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I think you refer to EMDR. (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing) It`s a bit of a laborious technique, where the subject follows the path of a light moving accross a screen or a panel of little lights. Basically, the eyes are swept from side to side for a while. The idea grew form the observation that the eyes have a tendancy to look away from the cerebral hemisphere that is in activation (ie, if the right hemisphere is activated, the eyes have a tendancy to go to the right, etc). The amygdala in each hemisphere is an area of the brain that processes/inititiates things like phobic response, predominantly, the amygdala on the right hemisphere does this. Conscious movement of the eyes has a tendancy to switch around the cerebral dominance during an anxiety spell. So, watch the light, think of your After parting with huge somes of money, and some weeks later, a few people will report a significant reduction of their fear, anxiety or phobia or whatever. Regrettably, EMDR practitioners try to gain some credence from the observation of the NLP camp that suggests that there exist "eye accessing cues" etc etc. It was with regret, yesterday, that i heard on an NLP training tape that, "when a person looks up to their left, this means they are remembering a picture." As a master practitioner of NLP, i despair when i hear these idiocies. I suspect that EMDR does work very well for some people – certainly, the neurological theory behind the technique appears sound. But i am sceptical about the claims made for it that it cures everything and is Grand Theory Cure All ( just like "cells salts" are).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is that the one where a "therapist" "cures" you with rapid eye movements? frank I don’t think so…..there is some other set of initials for whatever that is. There is some looking off in different directions with EFT but it’s definitely not that eye movement thing…. BL
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Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently.
well, if the book is available for loan at public or university libraries (free), let me know….i’ll read it. i’ve never seen hulda clark’s book at a university or public library. does acupuncture really work? http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000324.html Some people think only intellect counts: knowing how to solve problems, knowing how to get by, knowing how to identify an advantage and seize it. But the functions of intellect are insufficient without courage, love, friendship, compassion and empathy. Dean Koontz
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i have a bit of a phobia when it comes to flying. (not terribly bad, just get quite nervous) for me, a shot of bourbon and a dramamine pill always does the trick. Just had a visitor here who was getting on a plane. She was seriously nervous so I gave her a sublingual kava kava spray and some valerian and lots of warnings not to overdose. Think she got a hangover similar to what a shot of
geez, i had no idea that one shot of bourbon could cause someone (an adult) a hangover…. lightweight! <G for something like insomnia or to simply relax a bit more intensely, i prefer using valerian to kava. i *have* noticed a bit of a sedated feeling the next morning when i have tried kava for insomnia. kava’s narcotic tendencies, i suppose. valerian stinks from belly to breakfast, but it works. does acupuncture really work? http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000324.html Some people think only intellect counts: knowing how to solve problems, knowing how to get by, knowing how to identify an advantage and seize it. But the functions of intellect are insufficient without courage, love, friendship, compassion and empathy. Dean Koontz
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i have a bit of a phobia when it comes to flying. (not terribly bad, just get quite nervous) for me, a shot of bourbon and a dramamine pill always does the trick.
Just had a visitor here who was getting on a plane. She was seriously nervous so I gave her a sublingual kava kava spray and some valerian and lots of warnings not to overdose. Think she got a hangover similar to what a shot of BL
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For those of you concerned about the cost or whatever of TFT (understandable, but keep in mind that the unproven talk therapists can cost upwards of one hundred fifty bucks an hour)– here is a website with a lot of FREE information. You can download a whole EFT manual. This is (I believe) a simpler form of TFT.
It is a very general one-size-fits-all algorithm that simply taps on all the acupuncture meridians used in TFT. Gary Craig does charge for his workshops which have very big turnouts. Although not so expensive, keep in mind that the owner of Wallmart is a very wealthy man. Gary is a brilliant business man and marketer who does very well for himself financially. I’m not putting him down for this, because I don’t think it’s wrong to make money for services rendered, but people need to realize that he’s not a self-sacrificial martyr living like Mother Teresa. Gary Craig likes to portray TFT as extremely inexpensive and markets EFT as the cheaper alternative and many people have bought into this. Keep in mind, however, that TFT’s algorithms and complete instructions on how to use them are now available very inexpensively in Roger Callahan’s latest book, Tapping the Healer Within, available through amazon.com and in most bookstores currently. When you look at the actual facts and compare TFT and EFT at this level, the cost of the two methods is very comparable. — Monica Pignotti
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For those of you concerned about the cost or whatever of TFT (understandable, but keep in mind that the unproven talk therapists can cost upwards of one hundred fifty bucks an hour)– here is a website with a lot of FREE information. You can download a whole EFT manual. This is (I believe) a simpler form of TFT. Our neuroemotional technique person uses this sometimes. I think she believes the cost of the more expensive TFT seminars are not worth the money, at least for her.
Is that the one where a "therapist" "cures" you with rapid eye movements? frank
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For those of you concerned about the cost or whatever of TFT (understandable, but keep in mind that the unproven talk therapists can cost upwards of one hundred fifty bucks an hour)– here is a website with a lot of FREE information. You can download a whole EFT manual. This is (I believe) a simpler form of TFT. Our neuroemotional technique person uses this sometimes. I think she believes the cost of the more expensive TFT seminars are not worth the money, at least for her. http://www.emofree.com/ I haven’t bothered to download the information, but I heard it was pretty good. This EFT was used on me once for trying to get rid of some claustraphobia (elevators, mostly). Apparently I would have had to practice it a lot at home, and I didn’t. I’d rather just walk the stairs. Good exercise anyway. But for any kind of serious phobia, the various energy psychology techniques are something to consider. BL
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For those of you concerned about the cost or whatever of TFT (understandable, but keep in mind that the unproven talk therapists can cost upwards of one hundred fifty bucks an hour)– here is a website with a lot of FREE information. You can download a whole EFT manual. This is (I believe) a simpler form of TFT. Our neuroemotional technique person uses this sometimes. I think she believes the cost of the more expensive TFT seminars are not worth the money, at least for her. http://www.emofree.com/ I haven’t bothered to download the information, but I heard it was pretty good. This EFT was used on me once for trying to get rid of some claustraphobia (elevators, mostly). Apparently I would have had to practice it a lot at home, and I didn’t. I’d rather just walk the stairs. Good exercise anyway. But for any kind of serious phobia, the various energy psychology techniques are something to consider. BL
thanks bl. i guess everyone has to do whatever works for them. and keep trying things til they find something that helps. i have a bit of a phobia when it comes to flying. (not terribly bad, just get quite nervous) for me, a shot of bourbon and a dramamine pill always does the trick. i suppose it wouldn’t work for everyone, but it’s MY good luck charm….<G does acupuncture really work? http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000324.html Some people think only intellect counts: knowing how to solve problems, knowing how to get by, knowing how to identify an advantage and seize it. But the functions of intellect are insufficient without courage, love, friendship, compassion and empathy. Dean Koontz
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