Trauma – PTSD

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First of all, I did not steam roller this group. I challenged Scott and Luanne. It may seem like I steam rollered this group because of the open exchange the three of us had but in fact, I have no issues with anyone in this group other than the two abusers who were going at Roger in a vicious and insensitive way with slander and letters to Rogers workplace. . Stephanie. —————————— – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Renee wrote: > Stephanie wrote > > Regardless of what Lu and Scott say, I’m not a Troll or anything even > > resembling the villain that Lu and Scott have suggested. > > Lu and Scott labeled me Troll because according to them I didn’t lurk long > > enough and had opinions about PTSD. Lu decided that I was a know it all. > This is not true.  I believe that Lu and Scott have problems with you > because of how you treat people and how you steamrolled this group. > > I really don’t know it all but I do have some excellent experience and I’m > > willing to share anything I’ve learned the hard way with anyone who is > > interested. > Are you also willing to listen? > > I just know if anyone had offered me a short cut out of the PTSD when I > was > > into it up to my eyeballs, I would have been grateful. > No one has a ’short cut’ to offer.  We have to handle our own experiences > any way we can, and no one can do that for us. > > The son who I was having so much problems with all these years as a result > > of the ptsd he suffered is all but cured.  His demeanor toward me has > > completely changed, he hugs and kisses me and shares things with me. > > I’t feels like I was suffering from a painful disease all these years and > > suddenly I discovered that I’m cured. > It’s not that easy for many people – I hope you are counting yourself and > your son lucky. > take care, > Renee > When the only tool you have is a hammer, > you tend to treat everything like a nail. > Find a new tool.

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>Thank God you see it too.  I got a silly email from Renee this morning who

‘>feels that S/A/L just wants to ‘fit in’ and she wants to give her a chance. >That’s it.  Just like when I feel I can banter calmly with Renee, something >stupid comes out of her mouth. >Luanne

————————————————- And just what do you see as stupid about Renee’s comments? The only stupid thing I can read into your stupid comment is your rage that Renee is not rolling over on her back and licking your pussy. That’s exactly what I mean Luanne. If people do not agree with you or only partially agree with you, you can’t tolerate "insubordinance". You fly into an absolute rage.  You frenzy trying to "Control" them all back into towing the party line. . I think you are trying to control the entire world you live in and if you could you would control God as well. Stephanie

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>By continuing to throw my name (and others) back >into this you are prolonging the troll invasion.   Thanks,   Scott

She doesn’t care.  I’m really beginning to wonder about her, too. Lu

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>I have no issues with anyone in this group other than the two >abusers who were going at Roger in a vicious and insensitive way with slander >and letters to Rogers workplace. .

Roger had no business here.  Neither do you.  Neither one of you has PTSD.  So why not get the fuck out? Lu

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And when you can’t get your way, you stomp your feet and throw vulgar language at people to intimidate them. Right ? Boy are you a vile of poison. !!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >I have no issues with anyone in this group other than the two > >abusers who were going at Roger in a vicious and insensitive way with slander > >and letters to Rogers workplace. . > Roger had no business here.  Neither do you.  Neither one of you has PTSD.  So > why not get the fuck out? > Lu

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>Boy are you a vile of poison. !!!!

You are pretty damn vile yourself.  I haven’t run anyone off this newsgroup, although I see quite a few have left since your re-arrival. Also L – Stephanie does NOT have PTSD.  She is a ‘wanna-be." Lu

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LuanneP wrote > Yes, I have said many rotten things on here while in a rage

thank you for admitting it. > Just think about what I said, although I am certain that it will sail right > over your head.

I have been thinking about it, Lu, and you know it.  It’s just not good enough for you – I and everyone else has to think exactly the same as you or you yell judge them forever, unmercilessly.  It’s just not healthy, for you or anyone else. Lu, If I didn’t give second and third chances, I would never speak to you again, after all the horrible things you’ve said to me. You probably wish I didn’t. take care, Renee When the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything like a nail. Find another tool.

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Stephanie wrote > Regardless of what Lu and Scott say, I’m not a Troll or anything even > resembling the villain that Lu and Scott have suggested. > Lu and Scott labeled me Troll because according to them I didn’t lurk long > enough and had opinions about PTSD. Lu decided that I was a know it all.

This is not true.  I believe that Lu and Scott have problems with you because of how you treat people and how you steamrolled this group. > I really don’t know it all but I do have some excellent experience and I’m > willing to share anything I’ve learned the hard way with anyone who is > interested.

Are you also willing to listen? > I just know if anyone had offered me a short cut out of the PTSD when I was > into it up to my eyeballs, I would have been grateful.

No one has a ’short cut’ to offer.  We have to handle our own experiences any way we can, and no one can do that for us. > The son who I was having so much problems with all these years as a result > of the ptsd he suffered is all but cured.  His demeanor toward me has > completely changed, he hugs and kisses me and shares things with me. > I’t feels like I was suffering from a painful disease all these years and > suddenly I discovered that I’m cured.

It’s not that easy for many people – I hope you are counting yourself and your son lucky. take care, Renee When the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything like a nail. Find a new tool.

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>S/A/L has just about exhausted her chances…

Thank God you see it too.  I got a silly email from Renee this morning who ‘feels that S/A/L just wants to ‘fit in’ and she wants to give her a chance. That’s it.  Just like when I feel I can banter calmly with Renee, something stupid comes out of her mouth. I think that most/many of us with PTSD are wayyyy more intune than your average joe. Perhaps that is because they way that our systems have changed due to PTSD – going into fight/flight responses, startling, etc….,  We are always on the lookout for trouble and can sense it when it comes up the road.   Yes, I have said many rotten things on here while in a rage, but I know somebody with PTSD 9 times out of 10 when they post here or when I know them. Kinda like I could spot an asshole when they would come into the restaurant that I formerly worked in, or the way I can almost ‘look’ at someone and tell what they are about. My senses are hardly ever wrong, and I think that most of us on here can attest to this.  Our systems as far as ‘being on edge’ seem to work overtime all the time, and I believe that I told you all my therapist had said that this ‘change’ is biochemical’ because of the trauma. Renee:  I do not know why you will not listen to those of us who have been on this newsgroup for a long time.  We KNOW about ‘Stephanie’.  Especially Scott and myself.  I have questioned you, too.  For some reason, you don’t react to the ‘trolls’ the way the rest of us do.  You accept and try to get many on here to like you by going along with everything that they say, including their treatment practices, right or wrong.  Now, you are doing the same thing with S/A/L.   Just think about what I said, although I am certain that it will sail right over your head.   Luanne

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>Stephanie, I can’t help but wonder what you are avoiding with all these >posts.  What’s going on with you these days…. what are you struggling >with, what’s going well, what do you wish was different?

Renee: She is a troll, plain and simple.  You weren’t here when she was driving us all nuts before.  Take it from Scott, myself, and the rest….Stephanie is bad news.   We don’t see eye to eye on lots of things, but this is ONE case where I feel you should listen to me. Luanne

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Scott, maybe because Renee doesn’t have ulterior motives like you and is open minded enough to take in all the information before coming to an intelligent conclusion ON HER OWN. Maybe Renee is not programable. maybe Renee is genuinely fair and considerate and things that most people strive to be. Ever consider that ?. Stephanie. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Renee, >    Why are you doing this ?? >                     Scott > Renee wrote: > > Stephanie, I can’t help but wonder what you are avoiding with all these > > posts.  What’s going on with you these days…. what are you struggling > > with, what’s going well, what do you wish was different? > > take care, > > Renee > > When you are going through hell, keep moving! > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply:  Remove .nospam  from the above.       Scott C.   @–>–>—

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Hello Renee, I’d like to establish some kind of more normal relationship with you on this ng. Regardless of what Lu and Scott say, I’m not a Troll or anything even resembling the villain that Lu and Scott have suggested. Lu and Scott labeled me Troll because according to them I didn’t lurk long enough and had opinions about PTSD. Lu decided that I was a know it all. So, I took a rest, and I’m back. I really don’t know it all but I do have some excellent experience and I’m willing to share anything I’ve learned the hard way with anyone who is interested. I just know if anyone had offered me a short cut out of the PTSD when I was into it up to my eyeballs, I would have been grateful. I really do dislike abuse and this Luanne/Scott tag team was much more than I was able to digest. So I took ammunition and went hunting. . I think you made a very sincere attempt to start communicating with me and I’ll do my best to have a meeting of the mind with you on PTSD. I’ll tell you what’s going well with me. The son who I was having so much problems with all these years as a result of the ptsd he suffered is all but cured.  His demeanor toward me has completely changed, he hugs and kisses me and shares things with me. I’t feels like I was suffering from a painful disease all these years and suddenly I discovered that I’m cured. It’s a great feeling. I can hardly believe the change in him. It’s been such a long long difficult road for the both of us in this relationship. I never thought I would ever see the son I knew again but now there’s hope. The pain seems to be gone, the man is in love and he’s at peace with the world and with me. You just don’t know how happy that makes me. What a great weight got lifted. PTSD really played such a big role in our families interaction with one another. It was such a long up hill battle for so many years. I don’t wish it on anyone. And how about you Renee ? How do you feel about things in general. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Renee wrote: > Stephanie, I can’t help but wonder what you are avoiding with all these > posts.  What’s going on with you these days…. what are you struggling > with, what’s going well, what do you wish was different? > take care, > Renee > When you are going through hell, keep moving!

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And Scott is Dr. Cluso and a vindictive one at that. Worse than the last time. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scott C." wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > gmt, >   I follow you here…but have one question….are you in any way > referring to Stephanie ??  If so, I don’t see where second chances, or > for that matter any chances apply.  She is a troll…and a highly > disruptive one at that…worse this time than last time.  If this wasn’t > referencing her, sorry for jumping to a conclusion. >                                    Take care,  Scott > gmt wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Renee, you asked a good question. > > "Does anybody get second chances here?" > > (I paraphrased it, hope you don’t mind:) > > I believe everyone who has good intentions should be given second > > chances. > > I also believe that it is not my place to judge someone’s intentions. > > Now, if they show their true colors, then I may jump in and judge. > > Judging is wrong.  I am guilty.  I make no excuses for this, and I am > > not proud of this tendency in myself. > > FWIW, if *I* hadn’t given myself a second chance at beginning to live a > > healthy life, I’m not really sure where I’d be right now. > > I think to take second chances is healthy.  I think offering second > > chances is healthy. > > So, yes, second chances are good and everyone gets at least that. > > But, let me tell you something, if someone abuses my trust a second > > time, I’ll never give them the time of day. > > I’m not saying that this is correct thinking.  It is just my thinking, > > at this time. > > I’ve only been a part of this NG for a year.  The beginning of it spent > > lurking.  Then, having periods when I did not post either because I was > > too busy or was struggling with issues and unable to post.  I’ve seen a > > lot of second chances.  I’ve seen a lot of cycling by many.  I’ve seen a > > lot of good.  I’ve seen a lot of bad. > > I still believe that the overall purpose of this NG is being worked > > out.  I think it is not fully developed yet, as none of us are fully > > developed yet. > > I have hope that all will be well in the long run. > > gmt > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply:  Remove .nospam  from the above.       Scott C.   @–>–>—

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Stephanie, I can’t help but wonder what you are avoiding with all these posts.  What’s going on with you these days…. what are you struggling with, what’s going well, what do you wish was different? take care, Renee When you are going through hell, keep moving!

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Renee, I am from a back ground of extreme emotional child abuse. I have developed an extreme distaste and hyper vigilance for anything that looks and smells like anyone getting abused. Abuse to me is like a red flag to a bull. I don’t tolerate it . That’s my ptsd legacy and trigger. This group should be a place for sharing and learning. It angers me that the very place that should be safe, is actually a hot bed of venom, politics and anger aimed mercilessly at it’s members. Vindictiveness, pettiness and malice. Are you listening Scott and Luanne. Luanne, you don’t have the "Right" to shit on people using your PTSD experience as a license to do what you dam well please. Nothing gives you this right. Absolutely nothing. In fact your painful experiences should make you more understanding and more compromising to others. I don’t understand why anyone would need to rip anyone apart the way the Luanne/Scott tag team has been operating. Sorry, i see Red and I don’t make excuses for this kind of behavior. Never. Luane and Scott should be protecting others from experiencing pain, inviting people to shelter instead of trying to inflict as much of it on their perceived "Trolls" as they can. I think Luanne and Scott have been using this Troll thing too liberally. It’s become like a weapon. It’s not innocent. It’s dam cruel what they’re into. It’s nothing short of a weapon for them so they can maintain "Control" while still have their intentions perceived as innocent by the group. Just how many people did you Rat on to their isp’s Scott. you seem to be almost proud of your abusive manners. And you Luanne, what kind of motives did you really have in posting derogatory messages about me to another newsgroups.  That was pretty scummy of you. Ever look at yourself and consider that posting messages to someone’s Boss at their work place is an ethical no no. Scummy behavior, nothing short of abuse. See…….I don’t tolerate abuse and I go snorting. I don’t tolerate people getting hurt, for my own reasons but also because I endeavor not to look away for God. Someone once said, All it takes for evil to flourish in this world is for a few good men to look away. Just my opinion Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Renee wrote: > Stephanie, I can’t help but wonder what you are avoiding with all these > posts.  What’s going on with you these days…. what are you struggling > with, what’s going well, what do you wish was different? > take care, > Renee > When you are going through hell, keep moving!

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