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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:38:35 +0900, "Alan" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<dogsdanglyb…@fishfeeds.com> wrote: >> Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who >dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a >disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing >that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country >down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… >> Steve > Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme all the fuckin’ time ? Do you >have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs >head on desk in front of me in exasperation). > Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a >regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom stress >disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ hair >fall out a long time ago. >Alan
Alan, do you all have an apprenticeship program somewhere. This laddie needs it badly if he is going to hang out on usenet when he grows up. I would make sure he has a sig file saying, I am an apprentice, I am an apprentice, I am not a journeyman so people don’t get the wrong impression. It is not all his fault you know, he is from a state that recently elected a dead senator to serve in Washington D.C., I think they are all kind of fruit loops.
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:57:42 +0900, "Alan" <dogsdanglyb…@fishfeeds.com> wrote: >> 2.) Make you wonder what you would have done, then and in your >> circumstance and now. > This one, Paddy, this is the one that hits it. >Alan
He won’t listen. He will read tiny dancer, who needs help badly because she can’t handle it and yet has enough mouth left to give others advice on how to handle it. Tired of the world……………….move. Its that kind of thing.
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<patric…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bra4ttg5nht8s6u03nuvjf777ri6l87p1n@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:38:35 +0900, "Alan" > <dogsdanglyb…@fishfeeds.com> wrote: > >> Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who > >dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a > >disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing > >that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country > >down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… > >> Steve > > Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme all the fuckin’ time ? Do you > >have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs > >head on desk in front of me in exasperation). > > Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a > >regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom stress > >disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ hair > >fall out a long time ago. > >Alan > Alan, do you all have an apprenticeship program somewhere. This > laddie needs it badly if he is going to hang out on usenet when he > grows up. I would make sure he has a sig file saying, I am an > apprentice, I am an apprentice, I am not a journeyman so people don’t > get the wrong impression. > It is not all his fault you know, he is from a state that recently > elected a dead senator to serve in Washington D.C., I think they are > all kind of fruit loops.
And boy is he smelling bad! Rimshot!!!! Brooks
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:08:13 GMT, KCOM <nos…@newsranger.com> wrote: >>Hey Steve…. Dons OK. He’s a genuine guy that can >hold his own in a >>firefight on Usenet. I respect that in a >fella. >>Neo >O.K., I just flamed him a little bit..But I’ll let it go >since you asked…I just flamed him to show the retarded jar head (patty) that I >don’t run from anybody… >Steve >Steve
You don’t have to worry about showing paddy anything, he already knows the best part of you ran down for daddy’s leg.
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In article <ege6ttoq2dtttvhv65qbsfanpklt3p3…@4ax.com>, p.t.hug…@worldnet.att.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:08:13 GMT, KCOM <nos…@newsranger.com> wrote: >>>Hey Steve…. Dons OK. He’s a genuine guy that can >>hold his own in a >>>firefight on Usenet. I respect that in a >>fella. >>>Neo >>O.K., I just flamed him a little bit..But I’ll let it go >>since you asked…I just flamed him to show the retarded jar head (patty) that I >>don’t run from anybody… >>Steve >>Steve >You
don’t have to worry about showing paddy anything, he already knows >the best
part of you ran down for daddy’s leg. Is that the best you can do?…You’re nothing alone son… March on soldier boy… Steve
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 16:21:44 +0100, ""The One" & only Neo" <The…@theMatrix.net> wrote: >> Piss off Alan…That Dan Thompson started it, and I intend to finnish >it…I’m taking that one out… >Hey Steve…. Dons OK. He’s a genuine guy that can hold his own in a >firefight on Usenet. I respect that in a fella. >Neo
You would be absolutely amazed at what he could do to Kcom too if he got pissed off enough. I have known him for years, and if there is anyone I would rather not mess with on usenet in about 7 years of posting, it is Don. he,he though, it looks like Kcom has not been to the glanmore.org site to look at the waterpump addition.
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.. >> Alan wrote: >> > > Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s
stupid people like you >who >> > dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to
loose the war…You’re a >> > disgrace to our country…You deserve all the
ridicule you get for >losing >> > that war…You should be ashamed of yourself
for letting this country >> > down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… >> > > Steve >> > Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme
all the fuckin’ time ? Do >you >> > have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at
all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> > head on desk in front of me in exasperation). >> > Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a >> > regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom >stress >> > disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ >hair >> > fall out a long time ago. >> > Alan >> Piss
off Alan…That Dan Thompson started it, and I intend to finnish >it…I’m
taking that one out… >Hey Steve…. Dons OK. He’s a genuine guy that can hold his own in a >firefight on Usenet. I respect that in a fella. >Neo
O.K., I just flamed him a little bit..But I’ll let it go since you asked…I just flamed him to show the retarded jar head (patty) that I don’t run from anybody… Steve Steve
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > > Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who > dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a > disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing > that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country > down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… > > Steve > Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme all the fuckin’ time ? Do you > have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs > head on desk in front of me in exasperation). > Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a > regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom stress > disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ hair > fall out a long time ago. > Alan
Piss off Alan…That Dan Thompson started it, and I intend to finnish it…I’m taking that one out… Steve
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"KCOM" <k…@cotse.net> wrote in message
news:a2NvbQ==.1c29c549a3ee6c11d7ae7099402c1f97@1003664294.cotse.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alan wrote: > > > Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who > > dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a > > disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing > > that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country > > down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… > > > Steve > > Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme all the fuckin’ time ? Do you > > have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs > > head on desk in front of me in exasperation). > > Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a > > regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom stress > > disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ hair > > fall out a long time ago. > > Alan > Piss off Alan…That Dan Thompson started it, and I intend to finnish
it…I’m taking that one out… Hey Steve…. Dons OK. He’s a genuine guy that can hold his own in a firefight on Usenet. I respect that in a fella. Neo
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In article <3f14ttk0t4uja0k1uomfn7iehepgs76…@4ax.com>, screwloose says… >Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? >I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense >stress and now have this condition known as PTSD.
I feel sorry for you. I had an unhelpful experience three years ago too. My heart goes out to you and I wish you well. — cherry b
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In article <9qta16$qcqq…@ID-91163.news.dfncis.de>, Alan says… >> 2.) Make you wonder what you would have done, then and in your >> circumstance and now. > This one, Paddy, this is the one that hits it.
What do you mean? Do you know how to help him because I don’t think what you have to say has helped so far. — cherry b
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>Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away?
Yes it does get better. Yes it does go away. >A bit better?…. a lot better?
It took me a long time to feel even a little bit better, then I started making rapid progress in a very short period of time. Now, most of the time, I don’t show any symptoms of PTSD except under extremely stressful situations. Good luck Risa Whenever I wake up on top of the mattress, I know I’m getting up on the right side of the bed.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -patric…@yahoo.com wrote in message <news:c7d4ttsa0jc76ts97ua00cfgdcofftgmvk@4ax.com>… > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:20:46 -0500, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro…@msn.com> > wrote: > >> It is not all his fault you know, he is from a state that recently > >> elected a dead senator to serve in Washington D.C., I think they are > >> all kind of fruit loops. > >And boy is he smelling bad! > >Rimshot!!!! > >Brooks > Ka-ching!
Boy, it’s fu to hear all these service boys go TILT! BWAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA Steve
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:20:46 -0500, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro…@msn.com> wrote: >> It is not all his fault you know, he is from a state that recently >> elected a dead senator to serve in Washington D.C., I think they are >> all kind of fruit loops. >And boy is he smelling bad! >Rimshot!!!! >Brooks
Ka-ching!
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Hey Screwloose; Welcome to life after trauma. My answer is no and no. What you can do, though, is learn to live with it. You can even learn to live quite well. I’ve actually been able to convince a few people that I am a human being. You have just now taken a step in the right direction. Getting input and support from others is very helpful because the task ahead is not easy or simple. Some minor but important changes have occurred in your brain. Those changes make it a little tricky to sort out your thoughts and feelings and they explain the "peaks of hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion". Hang around a while and maybe see if you can buddy up with someone in your community who would be willing to hear you out and help you sift through your thoughts and feelings. That sure goes a long way toward figuring out which thoughts and feelings to work with and which ones to toss. nice to meet you Steve "screwloose" <mami…@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:3f14ttk0t4uja0k1uomfn7iehepgs76pfd@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? > I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense > stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. > I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. > Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. > Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut > down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal > remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. > But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of > hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. > There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means > they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! > As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? > A bit better?…. a lot better? > screwloose
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Don Thompson wrote: > "KCOM" <K…@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message > news:3BD494C6@MailAndNews.com… > > >===== Original Message From screwloose <mami…@telstra.com> ===== > > >Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? > > >I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense > > >stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. > > >I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. > > >Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. > > >Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut > > >down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal > > >remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. > > >But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of > > >hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. > > >There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means > > >they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! > > >As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? > A person learns to live with it by recognizing its features and how to > minimize the effect. Sometimes, if you know what is behind your reaction you > can head it off. But there are times that even when a person KNOWS what is > happening there is only the reaction. > > >A bit better?…. a lot better? > > >screwloose > > No…The best you can do is buy a gun… > > Steve > Idiot. > — > Don Thompson > Another Thompson Scion
Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… Steve
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> Why should anyone pay attention to you?…It’s stupid people like you who
dropped the ball in vietnam and caused us to loose the war…You’re a disgrace to our country…You deserve all the ridicule you get for losing that war…You should be ashamed of yourself for letting this country down…now march on soldier boy…hup 2, 3, 4… > Steve
Steve, are you fuckin’ stuck on one theme all the fuckin’ time ? Do you have any fuckin’ idea what’s going on at all ? Jeeeeeze…….. (bangs head on desk in front of me in exasperation). Fucks sakes, Steve it’s blokes like you that are goin’ to make me a regular poster in the PTSD NG. Or maybe another one, PKDS (post Kcom stress disorder). Fuck, am I glad I’m bald or what, you’d have made my fuckin’ hair fall out a long time ago. Alan
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On 21 Oct 2001 00:45:02 GMT, ah…@aol.com (Ahote) wrote: Only this time there is a cop in the next room. As we emerged >from the room I dove over a counter and the cop emptied his gun on the robber. >Burned memories, I ask the same questions, will they ever go away? >I ran into the cop much later. He asked me how I was. I told him not good. He >said he needed to talk to me about what had happened. Unlike myself he got >treatment right away, took time off, was still uncertain of his future. The >conversation did not comfort me, I raged for all the shit I went through and no >one ever asked how I was, did I need a day off, how about some therapy. After >suicidal thoughts I made my way there on my own. >Hyper-vigilance continues to rule my life and it takes up lots of energy. And >that’s only when I’m awake. >I hope I get better, I’m back out there working, in therapy, trying some meds. >My favorite quote is "Get busy living, or get busy dying" from the movie >Shawshank Redemption. Pops in my mind whenever things get tough. >Shannon
Its never easy watching someone get shot, it is even harder when you have to shoot them. But there are things worse. You most likely are not going to listen to me, but I think it was Joseph Waumbagh who wrote the Onion Field. You should be able to pick it up used for a buck or so. Force yourself to read it. It will do at least three things. 1.) Show you how this stuff unfolds. 2.) Make you wonder what you would have done, then and in your circumstance and now. 3. See what the survivor did then and now (or at least when the book was finished) It is a true story. Joseph Wambaugh is no chump, he was a working detective long before he started writing and he knows about these things, but I doubt they called it PTSD when that particular book was written (70’s if I remember) Life sucks, it isn’t fair, you either play the hand your dealt or it plays you. But don’t be a victim. Attack.
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> 2.) Make you wonder what you would have done, then and in your > circumstance and now.
This one, Paddy, this is the one that hits it. Alan
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Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? A bit better?…. a lot better? screwloose
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->===== Original Message From screwloose <mami…@telstra.com> ===== >Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? >I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense >stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. >I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. >Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. >Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut >down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal >remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. >But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of >hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. >There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means >they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! >As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? >A bit better?…. a lot better? >screwloose
No…The best you can do is buy a gun… Steve —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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"KCOM" <K…@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
news:3BD494C6@MailAndNews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >===== Original Message From screwloose <mami…@telstra.com> ===== > >Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? > >I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense > >stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. > >I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. > >Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. > >Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut > >down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal > >remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. > >But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of > >hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. > >There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means > >they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! > >As anyone here ever got better from PTSD?
A person learns to live with it by recognizing its features and how to minimize the effect. Sometimes, if you know what is behind your reaction you can head it off. But there are times that even when a person KNOWS what is happening there is only the reaction. > >A bit better?…. a lot better? > >screwloose > No…The best you can do is buy a gun… > Steve
Idiot. — Don Thompson Another Thompson Scion
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hi S.L. Ignore the trolls…I think you know who they are by their responses (ie. don’t buy a gun! 
As for whether it gets "better" – there’s no one answer. The best answer I have seen is that there is "coping". We learn how to live with the symptoms, whether it’s medication to control some of the symptoms or we arrange our lives to accomodate others. Professional help – as soon as possible – is imperative in limiting the severity of PTSD and contiued support helps you work through or learn to cope with the symptoms. There is a process – you’re not stuck in the valley of the roller coaster forever. If there is a will, there’s a way. By the sounds of it you have a grip on some of the problems that still plaque me even after seven years – for example – I still can’t properly feed myself. (The microwave is my god A bit better? Definitely. A lot better? A definite possibility. Completely better? Maybe when you learn how to completely cope with and manage the symptoms and go back to a normal ‘functioning’ life. Stick around and chat with the regulars – you’ll see soon enough who they are – Nancy, Helski, Rudolph, Balikris, tiny dancer, Risa, Kat, (Cloud Dreamer which is my other nick that I’m trying to shed) and a few others have been here for some time – they can offer a wealth of advice and information that will make you feel like you’re not alone, you’re not cracking up – that you’re going through a totally normally reaction. There’s some information and links at the FAQ as well – the link is listed below. take care chech View the AST-PTSD FAQ @ http://astpfaq.tripod.com/astpfaq/ In article <3f14ttk0t4uja0k1uomfn7iehepgs76…@4ax.com>, screwloose says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? >I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense >stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. >I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. >Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. >Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut >down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal >remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. >But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of >hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. >There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means >they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! >As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? >A bit better?…. a lot better? >screwloose
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It’s hard to tell lately who’s posting for help and who’s just posting to cause problems. It’s not usually like this so I’m taking a chance you’re a "real" person. You haven’t mentioned if you’re in therapy or just seeing someone for meds? From what I’ve heard it never really goes away, it gets better but one has to be careful of stressful situations because they can cause relapse. Take little steps forward as best you can. With the right meds and some good therapy you can reclaim your life for the most part. Since you said you haven’t had ptsd since childhood you’ve probably got a much better than average chance. From what I understand the longer it’s left untreated the worse it gets. For myself, I had a major breakdown about 10 years ago after some pretty life changing occurrences and quite a few major stresses not the least being a child with a life threatening disease. But I have suffered from major depression since early childhood due to severe abuse. Stick with your meds., try to unstress your life as much as you can, if you aren’t seeing a therapist try to find one to talk to. I’m on pretty strong doses of meds, but in the last year I’ve come a long way, in a big part because of this group (before it was overtaken by thoughtless people who don’t care who or how much they hurt others in their quest to get even). I’ve gone from not leaving my house even to get the mail in for about 5 years….. to occasionally driving myself to a friends house all alone. It may not sound like much but to somebody who was totally housebound it’s a major accomplishment. So what I’m trying to say is if proper care can get me out of the house I’m sure you can hope to do quite a bit better than that in a lot less time. Try not to let all these "extra people" here right now scare you off. Post your concerns, questions, feelings here and there will be people to help you with them. Best wishes, tiny dancer "screwloose" <mami…@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:3f14ttk0t4uja0k1uomfn7iehepgs76pfd@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does it ever get better? Does it ever go away? > I cracked up three and a half years ago after a long period of intense > stress and now have this condition known as PTSD. > I’m fifty. Prior to cracking up, I was a fairly ‘normal’ human being. > Fortunately, I haven’t had it since childhood. > Now I live alone, rarely go out, minimize stress, see a psych, cut > down alcohol, eat healthy food, try all sorts of medical and herbal > remedies etc… and I keep expecting I’m going to feel better one day. > But it goes on… and on. It just undulates… from peaks of > hyper-vigilance and anger… to troughs of dazed and exhaustion. > There’s lots of people from the Vietnam war posting here… that means > they’ve had PTSD for 30 years! > As anyone here ever got better from PTSD? > A bit better?…. a lot better? > screwloose
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