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Galin Deiseal (Ga…@gmx.net) wrote:
: : Thank you very much for your replies, Arthur and Lenny 
No problem. Best Wishes, Arthur
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Dear Lenny What suggestions did you give yourself. I can use self hypnosis. My present PTSD symptom is hypervigilence. I use suggestions that calm me down and tell me I am not being threatened. Im safe, Im powerful etc. I also use suggestions that I will stay in the present and stop spacing out; best wishes Estelle
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Dear Galin, I had hypoth. and it helped a heap. My Psychiatrist used it to help me have a safe place; I was very threatened by everyone and every sound around me for a long while, and it was much worse when I was in pain from anything. The having a safe place was very good… and with his help I locked up all the rest of the bad stuff I had not had flashbacks of ,until I felt I wanted to deal with them (which I haven’t yet). Re-living the trauma is not the way hypnosis should be used. We have the memories as flashbacks because our brains are trying to help us recognize what happened and put it in the right place in our memory files. Traumatizing ourselves with the experience under hypnosis is not healing. There is so much new information about this…but the therapists aren’t always on top of it. Be careful you have a knowledgable hypnotherapist. Meds were a big problem for me too, since for two years previous to a proper dx I was prescribed so many that made me worse. Central nervous system depressants are the worst; make more realistic flashbacks. Same for sleeping pills. What a mess I was when I was trying to sleep with them in my system. I’m using Prozac and Inderal now, the Inderal stops the adrenaline rush from taking me into a panic or self-protective state of rage. The side effects are unnoticeable to me now…had mild ones when I began with them. Full of hope for you, Sue
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Hi I can’t stand some of the side effects, am going to see if i can just use xanax to stop panic attacks Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Suze wrote: > Dear Galin, > I had hypoth. and it helped a heap. My Psychiatrist used it to help me have > a safe place; I was very threatened by everyone and every sound around me > for a long while, and it was much worse when I was in pain from anything. > The having a safe place was very good… and with his help I locked up all > the rest of the bad stuff I had not had flashbacks of ,until I felt I > wanted to deal with them (which I haven’t yet). Re-living the trauma is not > the way hypnosis should be used. We have the memories as flashbacks because > our brains are trying to help us recognize what happened and put it in the > right place in our memory files. Traumatizing ourselves with the experience > under hypnosis is not healing. There is so much new information about > this…but the therapists aren’t always on top of it. Be careful you have a > knowledgable hypnotherapist. > Meds were a big problem for me too, since for two years previous to a proper > dx I was prescribed so many that made me worse. Central nervous system > depressants are the worst; make more realistic flashbacks. Same for sleeping > pills. What a mess I was when I was trying to sleep with them in my system. > I’m using Prozac and Inderal now, the Inderal stops the adrenaline rush from > taking me into a panic or self-protective state of rage. The side effects > are unnoticeable to me now…had mild ones when I began with them. > Full of hope for you, > Sue
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avoid xanax if at all possible, if you take it for very long, you will go through withdrawl, and it is not fun, is spent 2 days in bed with the shakes and the sweats. real un fun. don’t know what to recommend, pot work somewhat, but not always, and it doesn’t stop the dreams any more 
luck & love – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sun, 16 May 1999 19:51:39 +0000, Emma <ba…@netscape.net> wrote: >x-no-archive: yes >Please do some research and discuss it thoroughly with your p-doc before you >get on xanax. It can be a very addictive drug. >- Emma >linda h wrote: >> Hi >> I can’t stand some of the side effects, am going to see if i can just use xanax >> to stop panic attacks >> Linda
–] I’m not an expert, but I play one on the internet
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hello lenny, I just read your most recent post about true/false memories. Do you or anyone else have ideas about ways to check and recheck a memory to see if it’s "real"? The problem I have with the scenerio you described for checking the vailidity of the memory is this— I tend to dissociate, along the same times as having memories, they are very intense. (some intense memories trigger dissoc. for me) This is not the only times of dissociation. BUT, when in a dissociative state, I usually transport myself to somewhere else, whether it be a real place or not, and the memory itself gets mixed with this other realm. I usually don’t remember being in the dissociative state at all, or what took place either where I am physically at the time, or where did I go in my mind.— Until a very long time later…When I do recall the situation that occured, it’s all mixed up.— (the original memory and the dissoc. state) I feel that being more aware of those states might be good in that perhaps a better understanding of why it happens, or where do I go, (mentally) or how does all this work, to therefore get to some point where it’s more of a workable//controlled situation—not the way it is now…pure chaos. The question is—If memory itself is a trigger for dissoc., how do you ever separate the 2 when they get mixed…? Scho…@negia.net Peace Scholar aka Tracy
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> pot work somewhat, but not always, and it doesn’t stop
Are you saying to stop using xanax and go to ‘marijuana maintenance’ instead? Hell, when I was smoking that stuff way back when, it was making me MORE paranoid. Xanax is prescribed to me but in a very low dose. According to my doctor, anything over 2 mg daily can be addictive. Best, Luanne
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Just to add to the xanax thread…my doc put me on klonopin instead and it works GREAT. Its a steady state panic reliever and doesn’t have the peaks and valleys of xanax (hence the addiction potential). Yes, klonopin needs to be weaned off, but it doesn’t have the "gotta pop a pill" addictiveness that xanax did. YMMV, Kristine
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>: Just to avoid confusion…I was referring to alcohol and >: unprescribed/illegal drugs…I thought that was pretty clear
Hey, who was the clown that originally posted that about "Marijuana Maintenance?" I haven’t seen him/her post since. Best, Lu
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Galin Deiseal (Ga…@gmx.net) wrote:
: Recently, I have talked to someone in IRC who is suffering from PTSD, too. : She recommended hypnosis, saying both she and her husband have experienced : great relief because of hypnotherapy. She said that you relive the shit once : again and then you get rid of it. Well it sounds unbelievable to me. Anyway, : in the next session I will ask my psychiatrist about hypnosis. I tried hypnosis twice, but for panic disorder rather than PTSD. In my case, the benefits were very short lived (only a few days). Hypnosis in general seems controversial in both reasearch and clinical circles; results varying greatly from person to person, and seemingly dependent on how much a person believes in it. However, I must admit having no experience with hypnosis in the treatment of PTSD specifically. As always, it’s a good idea to do some research before trying it, and only try it with a properly accredited professional (preferably one experienced with PTSD cases if possible). : Is there anyone in this world whose flashbacks have been reduced or have : even disappeared without meds??? I am talking about a life after the meds. I : cannot take meds for the rest of my life, can I? Moreover, there are side : effects I cannot deal with. Intolerable med side effects suggest that the med isn’t quite nudging your body chemistry in the right direction. Again in my own case, I’ve had bad side effects with one med, but relief with little or no side effects from another med. You should discuss this with your doctor and, perhaps, consider trying a different med. I believe a number of meds can be taken indefinitely; but only if they properly re-balance your body chemistry. This is probably most true of meds taken on a PRN (as needed) basis. But, check all this with your doctor first as I’m not an expert. Best Wishes, Arthur
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Thank you very much for your replies, Arthur and Lenny Blessed be, Galin
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Hello Galin, I tried hypnosis years ago for my PTSD. It was an entire disaster. I became VERY dissociative, confused, and depressed. I was to relive the events of my life, and also given the hypnotic suggestion that I wouldn’t remember anything, until I was prepared to accept my life situation. I had been seeing this doctor for about 2 years. We had discussed some bad events in my life, but I felt there was more, I was having nightmares, and very unusual dissociative experiences. I honestly tried to remember but after the nightmares, I was just left feeling VERY upset, and didn’t know why. He (the doctor) thought I was experiencing repressed memories, along with some of the things I was remembering, and suggested hypnosis. I wanted to get better, and deal with my past, so I agreed. I knew and trusted this doctor. Everything was a "go". I was active in my daily life, and seeing him for sometime. Point is "the best possible senerio". To this day, I don’t remember anything. However, some things were uncovered during hypnosis. I was so dissociative after the hypnosis started I couldn’t be reached or communicated with whatsoever. He (the doctor) was a psychologist was like "oops!" I got real sick. And he was in wayyyy over his head, and dumped me, because he didn’t know what to do…(also, I was seeing him free, I didn’t have insurance, and he couldn’t hospitalize me, or get medicine for me because he was only a psychologist). Bear in mind he did NOT refer, he just said don’t come back. THE END. This was just my experience. It might be different for others. Only one thing I would say. PLEASE, make sure there is a back up plan. Know if you get that sick.., help is available.., whether it be medicine or the hospital or both. Discuss this with your doctor at length BEFORE getting inside hypnosis too far! I think given the right support systems in place.., it ***might*** work…who knows… Scho…@negia.net Scholar aka Tracy
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Recently, I have talked to someone in IRC who is suffering from PTSD, too. She recommended hypnosis, saying both she and her husband have experienced great relief because of hypnotherapy. She said that you relive the shit once again and then you get rid of it. Well it sounds unbelievable to me. Anyway, in the next session I will ask my psychiatrist about hypnosis. Is there anyone in this world whose flashbacks have been reduced or have even disappeared without meds??? I am talking about a life after the meds. I cannot take meds for the rest of my life, can I? Moreover, there are side effects I cannot deal with. Blessed be, Galin
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