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My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
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I have not heard of the two places you mentioned…but I have known people who have gone to bother Collin Ross Institute in Texas and Del Amo in California with great results. A friend of mine just got released from Collin Ross and said she is doing better then ever and is even concidering getting a job. She talked some about integrating……but I don’t know if that is your goal. I have read somewhat about Collin Ross as I may want to go there some day….but the web addy is: http://www.rossinst.com/des.htm I don’t have an addy for a Del Amo site…sorry. Lee Lee&Them "Close to the middle of the network, it seems we’re looking for a center, what if it turns out to be hollow, we could be fixing what is broken." ~"Big Space" by Suzanne Vega
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
I have heard of both places second hand. They are probably worth checking out, especially if you can go there at a time when you are just visiting and ask some questions (like drive/fly there for a day or something). Or write to them and see if someone will answer your questions in mail (not as good imo but better than nothing). There is another one (Del Almo or something like that) in CA. Now _that_ would be a bit far for you to go! I have never been to an ‘official’ DID unit but the places I went to knew about it and were sensitive to the issues. The way we did it was to have a very clear cut plan of what we were going to work on. We knew we wanted to work on issues a, b and c (for example) and we just put that in our treatment plan on the first day when we met with the staff t’pist. We also knew we were _not_ going to work on issues q and r and put that in there as well. The first time I was in a place for two months (my choice) and the second time I was in for one month (also my choice). Of course I was capable and prepared to pay out of pocket if I had to stay longer than insurance would ‘allow’ (*spit* stupid insurance morons!). That makes a big difference on your treatment as well. If your insurance is only going to pay for 21 days then you have to be ‘fixed’ in that time or else. The thing to keep in mind about DID units is that their goal is to get you functional and send you home. They want to have contact with your at home t’pist (well, the good places do at least:) and they want to make sure you are stable when you leave. They aren’t going to try to deal with more than is necessary for this goal. Of course it still happens and all that:( It helps to be prepared, be pro-active, have a good outside support for coming home, and be realistic in what you are going to accomplish. I once joked with my t’pist that if I could I would go into someplace, get ‘cured’ and be done with it. He thought that was very funny and insisted that it would never work *grin* (don’t you just hate it when they are right?:) Rainbow Colors (Jill) — The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing we are becoming white light.
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I’ve the website address for Del Amo. I’ve copied it here but am not sure if It’s done the right way as a link. You might have to input it manually. http://www.delamohospital.com/ Melissa of RoseTower – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have not heard of the two places you mentioned…but I have known people who have gone to bother Collin Ross Institute in Texas and Del Amo in California with great results. A friend of mine just got released from Collin Ross and said she is doing better then ever and is even concidering getting a job. She talked some about integrating……but I don’t know if that is your goal. I have read somewhat about Collin Ross as I may want to go there some day….but the web addy is: http://www.rossinst.com/des.htm I don’t have an addy for a Del Amo site…sorry. Lee Lee&Them "Close to the middle of the network, it seems we’re looking for a center, what if it turns out to be hollow, we could be fixing what is broken." ~"Big Space" by Suzanne Vega
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
b. has heard of the mclean one. think it is ok. all hospitals are not perfect. is like life. but chances are that some have smarter ppl than others. mclean is one of those. b. recently posted here a study they did on trauma peoples and memory. b. is saying to tell you search them on internet and read home page to learn some also. us — For info about this service, see http://www.twwells.com/anon/ or e-mail:
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Sam I Am wrote <snipped: The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? Call Me Sam I Am
I have no personal experience to offer, but thought I’d mention that the head of McLean’s dissociative unit publishes a lot. He has an article in the most recent issue of the American Psychiatry Association’s journal. If my impression of him is right he is coming to it from an interest in the effects of trauma and trauma research. Anyway, the article offers confirming evidence for amnesia for childhood s*x**l *b*s* and the connection of such experiences to dissociative disorders. Good luck figuring out what to do and I hope you can achieve something with this planned hopsital stay. Niniane — For info about this service, see http://www.twwells.com/anon/ or e-mail:
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HELP!! Please anyone talk to me – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
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What’s up? What’s going on? Help why? Can you say more? Lee Lee&Them "Close to the middle of the network, it seems we’re looking for a center, what if it turns out to be hollow, we could be fixing what is broken." ~"Big Space" by Suzanne Vega
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I feel like no one can help me. I am trying to get help. But I feel all alone. Stuff has started getting "crazy" again since yesterday. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I started thinking and seeing things like I have in the past. I saw the 2 elastic bands that were tied together as a noose, I saw the gas grill outside when I was frantically pacing last night and thought, too bad I couldn’t stick my head in there like I used to see people do in old movies with their gas ovens. I want to avoid needless hospitalizations, but in case I need it I wanted to know about these places my CSW told me about. But know one knows and I feel frustrated and agitated somehow. Ignore me if all this ranting is ridiculous. I want to pull it back together before it all comes unraveled again. Unraveled.. That should be my new name…but , call me Sam I Am – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HELP!! Please anyone talk to me My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
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I’ve seen a number of responses to your question. maybe your newserver missed them? astri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: alt.support.dissociation I feel like no one can help me. I am trying to get help. But I feel all alone. Stuff has started getting "crazy" again since yesterday. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I started thinking and seeing things like I have in the past. I saw the 2 elastic bands that were tied together as a noose, I saw the gas grill outside when I was frantically pacing last night and thought, too bad I couldn’t stick my head in there like I used to see people do in old movies with their gas ovens. I want to avoid needless hospitalizations, but in case I need it I wanted to know about these places my CSW told me about. But know one knows and I feel frustrated and agitated somehow. Ignore me if all this ranting is ridiculous. I want to pull it back together before it all comes unraveled again. Unraveled.. That should be my new name…but , call me Sam I Am HELP!! Please anyone talk to me My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am
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I can understand these feelings, I feel like this alot of the time. It takes time to undo all that has been done to us that caused us to be this way. I am glad that you are trying to get help, some people don’t get that far. As for feeling alone, I know that feeling all to well, but there are people here that are willing to listen, and although we are not where you are in person, does it help you feel any less alone to think of us here? And to know that you are heard…. Can you illaberate on what getting "crazy" means to you. my e-mail box is always open if you need a friend…. Lee Lee&Them "Close to the middle of the network, it seems we’re looking for a center, what if it turns out to be hollow, we could be fixing what is broken." ~"Big Space" by Suzanne Vega
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Hi. I’m picking up on this message cuz I missed the original. I have been on the dissociative disorders unit at McLean. Once, that is, for about two weeks. Dunno how much of an appraisal I can give you, as I never attended any groups (they kind of depressed me…) I can say that, compared to other hospital experiences, it was pretty decent. There wasn’t a whole lot to do (as I never went to groups), but they did give people a whole lot of trust and freedom. I felt a lot less weird and like a "mental patient" than I had in other hospitals. People were generally willing to talk to me and were willing to assume I wasn’t just nuts. That was really, really nice. I also think that the staff paid attention and was flexible. I had been transferred from a place where they wouldn’t let you outside until like a week of "good behavior". It drove me stark raving buggy. That didn’t happen much at McLean. If I was stir crazy, I said so, and they tried to do something about it. Almost everyone could go on group walks. We’d also go to the cafeteria and to the gym to throw basketballs around. Final (important) note on treatment was that everyone got a chunk (a half hour? an hour?) of time every day for individual therapy _as_well_as_ daily visits with a psychiatrist. The individual therapy was very useful. It’s hard to become totally lost when you get to talk to someone every day. As for the downside. For me, probably lack of direction. Drifty. Partly my fault, as I didn’t do groups. Also, it seemed lonely there. There were central gathering places, but a lot of people were doing their own thing and there wasn’t much gathering. I didn’t really bond much with the staff other than my individual psychologist. There wasn’t a strong emotional involvement for me (which, at that point, was actually probably a good thing). So shrug. Dunno if this helps, but it’s the best I can do. -Zaik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Commmunity Support Worker came up with a couple places that treat DID and trauma (PTSD) related disorders. I’ve ended up in a hospital every July for the past 7 years and have decided to try to be more pro-actve. The hospitals I am usually at leave me feeling sort of "warehoused" since little treatment occurs and not much in the way of working on the issue is allowed. Sometimes the alters who are the su*c*dal ones don’t ever get to talk and I often don’t know when they aren’t su*c*dal anymore, unless some outside person can talk to them. My T is concerned that if I went to a place that treats DID and trauma that I will be released too soon and will end up worse off then when I went in. He says I have a lot of "stuff" and he worries that these places may open a lot of stuff up and be unable to help me close it down before I leave, which is possible. The two names I have are: Brattleboro Retreat in Vermont and Mclean Hospital in Massachusetts. Both claim they have dissociative disorders treatment. Has anyone ever heard of these or been there? I live in Maine and these are pretty far away from where I live as it is, but has anyone been to other hospitals that say they treat DID and what was your experience, length of stay, outcome, etc. How did you overcome the incredible fear of going to such a place? I guess that’s all I have for now. July is fast approaching and I am feeling okay…but I want to be ready just in case. Call Me Sam I Am b. has heard of the mclean one. think it is ok. all hospitals are not perfect. is like life. but chances are that some have smarter ppl than others. mclean is one of those. b. recently posted here a study they did on trauma peoples and memory. b. is saying to tell you search them on internet and read home page to learn some also. us — For info about this service, see http://www.twwells.com/anon/ or e-mail:
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Hi Sam I Am, I don’t know if I can help and it’s a few hours later but I’d like to help, but I don’t know how. How can I help? My parents are coming to visit and stay over night *grimace*. My T told me to play a game while they are here. I am going to try it. I pay attention to my M*m and try to anticipate when she is going to make a negative comment verbal or non-verbal. Each time I miss a prediction I add a point to score. The object is to get a low score. This is to divert me from actually being affected by her comments. Seems pretty clever to me. My SO and I are also to exchange a subtle sign so that I know that he sees too. With my parent here I won’t be checking out ASD so I probably won’t reply until late Sunday or Monday. Hang on, it’s not July yet. If you want to talk about what’s upsetting you today I’ll be reading it as soon as I have the opportunity. Yikes! I just remembered I have to do some work for my research job tomorrow. It’ll probably be tomorrow after the kids are in bed before I get back here. Sorry. If you want to talk more about what you think you might get from the hospitilization. To me h…s are places to avoid at all costs. I had ome bad experiences at them when I was very young and later when I was a young adult. What kinds of things to multiples accomplish at a good unit. BTW, I forgot to say who the head of McClean’s dissociation unit is. He is James Chuu. Niniane Parents in drive way. Bye. On Saturday, June 12, 1999 10:28 AM-Sam I Am said: HELP!! Please anyone talk to me
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