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Dear Gay Marie: I feel as though Galin needed to seek professional help immediately, as did many other members of this newsgroup. Renee is telling him to sit at home and "waits till it subsides?" Bullshit!! You know it is wrong, and I know it. The poor man needs to seek treatment, even though "treatment-less" others on here feel differently. I am sorry, but those are my feelings. If you don’t like ‘em, Gay, you can stick it where the sun don’t shine. Luanne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -gmt wrote: > Luanne, > Please stop trying to invalidate other members of this NG. You have done this > repeatedly. You most certainly tried to do it to me several days ago. I felt that > you were lashing out in response to pain. I did not respond to your lashing out as > a result. I tend not to feed that kind of behavior. I think that you are > attempting to split this NG. I wish that you would please stop your attempts at > splitting. It is not beneficial to the group as a whole. Please remember that we > are a group, the sum total of all the individual parts. There’s no right or > wrong, No competition. No better or worse. Everything just IS. Let it be that > way. > Possibly you do not recognize that you’re statements are attempts at splitting > the group. Each time you write, "Some of us…" or start getting into "mild vs > severe", it causes division in the group. Especially the statement you made that > "possibly they are handing out the diagnosis of PTSD too loosely these days…" > (paraphrased because I do not have that post anymore to quote from). Highly > inflammatory attempt at splitting the NG. > If you want to split the group, do it. Start another NG. For people who think > only like you do. Because that is all the tolerance you seem to have, at times. > Just remember, no two minds think alike! > I am not saying that your opinions are not valid. All of our opinions are > equally valid. We just need to remember that they are a reflection of our own > minds. Or maybe the state that our minds are in at that moment. > Please consider what I write. I am one of those people that believe that there > is room for all, even those we disagree with. But, don’t try to split us anymore. > As always, take what you want and leave the rest. > Take care and GOD bless. > Gay Marie > LuanneP wrote: > > >Galin, you are not alone. We are all with you. > > >Take some deep breaths. > > >breathe deeply > > >look around > > >you are at home > > Renee: > > Wake up and smell the coffee and the burnt toast…Galin needs to seek > > professional help!!! He needs to see a doctor. He is alone and needs to be > > someplace where he can get care. > > When I felt like Galin, if somebody had told me to sit back and take deep > > breaths, I would have kicked their ass!! He needs help, Hon. We know that > > you want to "feel" your pain, but for some of us…it is totally unbearable and > > intolerable. > > Sincerely, > > Luanne
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Another thing, Gay….I think that all of us who have been where Galin is now KNOWS THE UTTER IMPORTANCE OF SEEKING TREATMENT, IMMEDIATELY, not sitting back, taking a few deep breaths and waiting for it all to go away. That was the wrong advice, in my book. I am sorry for my opinions. For the most part, on this ng, I will listen to those who I feel are correct in their opinions about PTSD, those people include Bill, George, W.P., and most others. I am a raging bitch, but I know a cry for help when I see one, and I see one here tonight. I am praying for Galin – praying that he takes the advice of going to a hospital instead of sitting in a chair waiting for it to subside. I’m sorry, but as you know, and probably can see, I am sick myself. Rage consumes me most of the time. Today was an especially trying day for me, and I am sorry. The meds didn’t help and I am now getting a migraine. Right now, I can’t find any good in people or in the world, and I don’t need anymore shit. Luanne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -gmt wrote: > Luanne, > Please stop trying to invalidate other members of this NG. You have done this > repeatedly. You most certainly tried to do it to me several days ago. I felt that > you were lashing out in response to pain. I did not respond to your lashing out as > a result. I tend not to feed that kind of behavior. I think that you are > attempting to split this NG. I wish that you would please stop your attempts at > splitting. It is not beneficial to the group as a whole. Please remember that we > are a group, the sum total of all the individual parts. There’s no right or > wrong, No competition. No better or worse. Everything just IS. Let it be that > way. > Possibly you do not recognize that you’re statements are attempts at splitting > the group. Each time you write, "Some of us…" or start getting into "mild vs > severe", it causes division in the group. Especially the statement you made that > "possibly they are handing out the diagnosis of PTSD too loosely these days…" > (paraphrased because I do not have that post anymore to quote from). Highly > inflammatory attempt at splitting the NG. > If you want to split the group, do it. Start another NG. For people who think > only like you do. Because that is all the tolerance you seem to have, at times. > Just remember, no two minds think alike! > I am not saying that your opinions are not valid. All of our opinions are > equally valid. We just need to remember that they are a reflection of our own > minds. Or maybe the state that our minds are in at that moment. > Please consider what I write. I am one of those people that believe that there > is room for all, even those we disagree with. But, don’t try to split us anymore. > As always, take what you want and leave the rest. > Take care and GOD bless. > Gay Marie > LuanneP wrote: > > >Galin, you are not alone. We are all with you. > > >Take some deep breaths. > > >breathe deeply > > >look around > > >you are at home > > Renee: > > Wake up and smell the coffee and the burnt toast…Galin needs to seek > > professional help!!! He needs to see a doctor. He is alone and needs to be > > someplace where he can get care. > > When I felt like Galin, if somebody had told me to sit back and take deep > > breaths, I would have kicked their ass!! He needs help, Hon. We know that > > you want to "feel" your pain, but for some of us…it is totally unbearable and > > intolerable. > > Sincerely, > > Luanne
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>How are you doing, Galin? >I hope you are sleeping, at peace from what you had to deal with >earlier. Still thinking about you, hoping to hear from you in the >morning.
Let’s hope Galin sought out some help tonight. I am keeping him in my prayers. I am very, very worried about him. I have been where he is before. Lu
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How are you doing, Galin? I hope you are sleeping, at peace from what you had to deal with earlier. Still thinking about you, hoping to hear from you in the morning. blessings, Renee *what other people think of you is none of your business* *If you are going through hell, KEEP MOVING!* ______________________________ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Galin Deiseal wrote in message … >I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind >… I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded >… it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me >up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am >breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and >flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I >am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my >soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is >how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I >cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again >and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart >… everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … >so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable >deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … >nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … >EMERGENCY!!!
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I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind … I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded … it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart … everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … EMERGENCY!!!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Galin Deiseal wrote: > I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind > … I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded > … it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me > up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am > breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and > flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I > am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my > soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is > how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I > cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again > and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart > … everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … > so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable > deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … > nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … > EMERGENCY!!!
Hello, I am sorry that you are in such distress, but there is nothing I can do from this side of the screen. If I were you I would call the local help line, or go to the nearest hospital right now! Take a deep breath Best wishes Peace -G.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind >… I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded >… it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me >up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am >breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and >flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I >am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my >soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is >how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I >cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again >and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart >… everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … >so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable >deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … >nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … >EMERGENCY!!!
You need to go to your nearest hospital, PRONTO!!! You do not have to live like this. To to the emergency room, explain your symptoms, tell them that you are afraid of turning suicidal. I wish I were an expert or a professional at dealing with this, but I am not. Galin, I have been watching you get sadder and feeling worse every day. I don’t think at this point that anything we say on this ng is gonna make you feel better at this moment. I will pray for you, but PLEASE, GO SEEK SOME HELP!! Sincerely, Luanne
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>Galin, you are not alone. We are all with you. >Take some deep breaths. >breathe deeply >look around >you are at home
Renee: Wake up and smell the coffee and the burnt toast…Galin needs to seek professional help!!! He needs to see a doctor. He is alone and needs to be someplace where he can get care. When I felt like Galin, if somebody had told me to sit back and take deep breaths, I would have kicked their ass!! He needs help, Hon. We know that you want to "feel" your pain, but for some of us…it is totally unbearable and intolerable. Sincerely, Luanne
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Luanne, Please stop trying to invalidate other members of this NG. You have done this repeatedly. You most certainly tried to do it to me several days ago. I felt that you were lashing out in response to pain. I did not respond to your lashing out as a result. I tend not to feed that kind of behavior. I think that you are attempting to split this NG. I wish that you would please stop your attempts at splitting. It is not beneficial to the group as a whole. Please remember that we are a group, the sum total of all the individual parts. There’s no right or wrong, No competition. No better or worse. Everything just IS. Let it be that way. Possibly you do not recognize that you’re statements are attempts at splitting the group. Each time you write, "Some of us…" or start getting into "mild vs severe", it causes division in the group. Especially the statement you made that "possibly they are handing out the diagnosis of PTSD too loosely these days…" (paraphrased because I do not have that post anymore to quote from). Highly inflammatory attempt at splitting the NG. If you want to split the group, do it. Start another NG. For people who think only like you do. Because that is all the tolerance you seem to have, at times. Just remember, no two minds think alike! I am not saying that your opinions are not valid. All of our opinions are equally valid. We just need to remember that they are a reflection of our own minds. Or maybe the state that our minds are in at that moment. Please consider what I write. I am one of those people that believe that there is room for all, even those we disagree with. But, don’t try to split us anymore. As always, take what you want and leave the rest. Take care and GOD bless. Gay Marie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LuanneP wrote: > >Galin, you are not alone. We are all with you. > >Take some deep breaths. > >breathe deeply > >look around > >you are at home > Renee: > Wake up and smell the coffee and the burnt toast…Galin needs to seek > professional help!!! He needs to see a doctor. He is alone and needs to be > someplace where he can get care. > When I felt like Galin, if somebody had told me to sit back and take deep > breaths, I would have kicked their ass!! He needs help, Hon. We know that > you want to "feel" your pain, but for some of us…it is totally unbearable and > intolerable. > Sincerely, > Luanne
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Galin, I wish I could be there to hold you and comfort you. But, I can’t. You are in such pain right now. My thoughts are with you, and I’ll pray for you. In any event, right now you really ought not to be alone. I might be terribly difficult to do, but you must do it–call someone to come sit with you, at the very least. RIGHT NOW!!! Is there a 24-hour helpline or mental health service number you can call? DO IT!!! Call your P’trist’s after hours number. Go to the nearest hospital, they will see to it that you get the care that you need. Please do one of these, Galin. I love you and GOD is with you. Take care and GOD bless, Gay Marie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Galin Deiseal wrote: > I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind > … I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded > … it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me > up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am > breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and > flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I > am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my > soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is > how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I > cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again > and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart > … everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … > so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable > deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … > nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … > EMERGENCY!!!
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Galin, you are not alone. We are all with you. Take some deep breaths. breathe deeply look around you are at home you are safe here they cannot get you here deep breaths if i could, i would be there with you i would hold your hand let you cry on my shoulder if you wanted can you imagine that? that i am there with you that you are not alone breathe………. you are safe listen to music if that helps, or watch tv anything to block the images cry until you can’t anymore punch the pillow or hug it this is not permanent it will pass breathe…………………. keep writing – someone is here all the time we will hear you we will respond and you are not alone you are safe please let us know how you are doing blessings, Renee *what other people think of you is none of your business* *If you are going through hell, KEEP MOVING!* ______________________________ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Galin Deiseal wrote in message … >I need help immediately … this trauma is taking over my life and my mind >… I cannot fight anymore … oh God it is so horrible … I am so wounded >… it is hurting so much … so badly … HELP ME !!! … someone wake me >up from this nightmare … please do anything to stop this horror … I am >breaking down … oh God I am breaking down … again … memories and >flashbacks looping … again and again … everything crushing my mind … I >am so wounded and broken … I cannot fight anymore … the blood from my >soul everywhere … and my heart and my left arm are aching too … this is >how you die because of that fucking PTSD … mentally and physically … I >cannot fight anymore … it hurts so much … it is pure horror … again >and again … all within my mind … but the whole world is falling apart >… everything spinning … everything looping … everything so violent … >so cruel … so extreme … panic … pure panic … fear so unbelievable >deep … they are coming back … they will traumatize me again … >nooooooooooooo … please … I am so wounded … I need help … help … >EMERGENCY!!!
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