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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -BaliKris wrote: > >I can relate to the slug in bed…..As for the other question, will we have > >this our whole lives? I just don’t know. I hope not. > I’m sorry you go thru the slug phases too. The one good thing that I see as > improvement is that I’m not beating up on myself for this. I’m not > guilt-ridden and shaming myself, rather than that I am listening to my > husband’s understanding and acceptance of whatever I can do is good enough. > Grace is an amazing thing coming from someone in your life. > Yeah, it’ll be there for my life. I don’t have a "pre-trauma me" since it > started before birth even. Father shoved mom downstairs hoping to abort me and > he always let me know that I ruined his life in having to marry her and then > have me around. What Rick said is right…when it starts out like that you’re > pretty well stuck with PTSD and left to learn how to deal with it and live your > life the best that you can. I can do that…but sometimes its just too much. > Its not FAIR. > I don’t know about others here, but I have such a strong sense about justice > and fairness in all areas of my life. Part of growing up without any "fairness" > or even-handed discipline, just abuse and hatred. I wish things in life were > fair, don’t you?
Feeling powerless is always terrible for me. Like you, when I was a child I was powerless to stop what happened to me; what people did to me. Then again, that’s something about our society. Children aren’t equal, they don’t have any power.
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Pancho wrote: > A friend sent me a post from this group last week and I’ve been reading > all of you with a keen interest, you folks sound like my kind of people, > may I start posting here?
Of course, you may. You belong here just as much as anyone else.
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welcome Pancho 
— RB what is fear but voices airy whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary – till the fatal bolt is shot "Pancho" <Leaping_Gira…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17708-3B059C57-59@storefull-294.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BaliKris, addressing PTSD, wrote: > >It seems like a rollercoaster to me. Recently I > >had waves of invasive thoughts and pictures > >invading my mind. It was very > >anxiety-provoking and disturbing. This was > >parts of abuse coming to my conscious mind. > >Its all there in the subconscious, only to be > >released, remembered, dealt with or whatever > >you call it, when we are "ready to handle it." > >This bout of anxiety was followed by a pretty > >sour bout of depression: desire to go > >NOWHERE, lack of interest in my things I love > >to do (making jewelry, writing, sewing, etc.), > >being a slug in bed, etc. Depression followed > >the anxiety like a rollercoaster ride. > Thank you for describing so accurately and succinctly something which’s > been ongoing for me lo these past thirty years. I’m just coming out of > that depressive state now, but the last few months have really opened my > eyes about getting treatment. If I can last at my ‘new’ job for a couple > of more months I’ll be eligible for heath care insurance, and that’s > always been a hinderence to me in the past because I’ve had trouble > staying with an employer long enough to qualify, but I’ve got to start > doing something positive about this soon – it’s getting worse over time. > A friend sent me a post from this group last week and I’ve been reading > all of you with a keen interest, you folks sound like my kind of people, > may I start posting here? > Pancho
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Feeling powerless is always terrible for me. Like you, when I was a child I was powerless to stop what happened to me; what people did to me. Then again, that’s something about our society. Children aren’t equal, they don’t have any power. Bingo Ron!!! Exactly how I feel.As a teacher I come a cross this attitude in some subtle and not so subtle ways. Helski
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Helsk wrote: > Feeling powerless is always terrible for me. Like you, when I was a > child I was powerless to stop what happened to me; what people did to > me. Then again, that’s something about our society. Children aren’t > equal, they don’t have any power. > Bingo Ron!!! > Exactly how I feel.As a teacher I come a cross this attitude in some subtle > and not so subtle ways.
We are such an agist society. What we do to children is just wrong. The justifications that society allow for the horrific treatment of children is just wrong. Therapy does it, psychiatry does, our social institutions do, even our parents did it. I think when we start valuing children, we’ll be a much better world.
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Ron, RIGHTO MATEY!!!!! Doesn’t say much for our society at all, does it? That animals and children, the truly defenseless members of our society, can be and are, so brutally treated. kat "homo@home" <ba…@home.com> wrote in message
news:3B069EFF.5E10F7A2@home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Helsk wrote: > > Feeling powerless is always terrible for me. Like you, when I was a > > child I was powerless to stop what happened to me; what people did to > > me. Then again, that’s something about our society. Children aren’t > > equal, they don’t have any power. > > Bingo Ron!!! > > Exactly how I feel.As a teacher I come a cross this attitude in some subtle > > and not so subtle ways. > We are such an agist society. What we do to children is just wrong. The > justifications that society allow for the horrific treatment of children > is just wrong. Therapy does it, psychiatry does, our social institutions > do, even our parents did it. I think when we start valuing children, > we’ll be a much better world.
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Not if we can help it…. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kitchen27 wrote: > Will we have PTSD all our lives?
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Cool response. thanks. kat "american academy of experts in traumatic stress" <aa…@optonline.net> wrote in message news:3B09B2EA.EA02B68E@optonline.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not if we can help it…. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. > Kitchen27 wrote: > > Will we have PTSD all our lives?
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Hi Kitchen27! > Will we have PTSD all our lives?
I know that we do not lose the diagnosis. I believe that we can learn to live a better life. The symptoms can become less powerful over us. Which, exactly, were you questioning? Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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Will we have PTSD all our lives?
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>Will we have PTSD all our lives?
I don’t think that a Yes or No answer can apply to everyone with PTSD. It is a disorder that many people have from many different traumas at different times and stages of their lives. It seems like a rollercoaster to me. Recently I had waves of invasive thoughts and pictures invading my mind. It was very anxiety-provoking and disturbing. This was parts of abuse coming to my conscious mind. Its all there in the subconscious, only to be released, remembered, dealt with or whatever you call it, when we are "ready to handle it." This bout of anxiety was followed by a pretty sour bout of depression: desire to go NOWHERE, lack of interest in my things I love to do (making jewelry, writing, sewing, etc.), being a slug in bed, etc. Depression followed the anxiety like a rollercoaster ride. I think that the rollercoaster evens out to a kiddie ride. That’s my analogy for healing/recovery from PTSD. I can’t change the traumas. I CAN change how they affect my life. I’m doing that as they emerge. I have a lot of missing space in my childhood. I know that there is a lot of awful stuff there. I trust that Myself knows best how to heal Myself. The part of me that got me thru the horrible abuse is there, still kicking, and now that I am safe it is time to deal with the "undealable" that I suffered. There is hope, even though it seems like there is none at some times. I’m kinda laughing as I write this because in therapy today I began by asking "Am I ever going to get better?" Now my therapist has done MANY disability exams for Social Security (which I receive for PTSD). I figured he’d be a good person to ask, but as most therapists do, he didn’t answer outright (dontcha love the way the work =) The upshot of his answer was this "you’ve been thru a rough spot and you’re mind/body are resting from it, taking a break." He suggested I come back in a couple weeks, and I’ve been seeing him twice a week during this rough spot. I am so thankful for this man!!! Therapy with a good therapist gives me hope (I’ve had bad ones that didn’t do diddly for me, but I wasn’t really willing to deal with the past so ANYONE would have been pretty much ineffectual!) Thanks for asking…perhaps this helps a bit, another’s perspective? Best wishes and hope for you in your own pain and healing from the injuries you’ve sustained-keep living and you’re bound to beat the monster and be on a kiddie-ride eventually! YMMV (your mileage may vary) Kristine (I emailed this because I didn’t recognize you as a poster and figured that it couldn’t hurt to mail and post) The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates
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You asked, >Will we have PTSD all our lives?
and for what it is worth I’ll throw in my two cents worth. For me, my therapist says that I will always have the ptsd because I can never erase the past. However, he told me that I can control my response to the ptsd instead of "it" controlling me. And lately, I have found it to be true. Hope this helps. Have a good day, jeannie
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Kristine, I can relate to the slug in bed…..As for the other question, will we have this our whole lives? I just don’t know. I hope not. kat "BaliKris" <balik…@aol.comzipspam> wrote in message
news:20010518013811.28909.00000472@ng-cg1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Will we have PTSD all our lives? > I don’t think that a Yes or No answer can apply to everyone with PTSD. It is a > disorder that many people have from many different traumas at different times > and stages of their lives. > It seems like a rollercoaster to me. Recently I had waves of invasive thoughts > and pictures invading my mind. It was very anxiety-provoking and disturbing. > This was parts of abuse coming to my conscious mind. Its all there in the > subconscious, only to be released, remembered, dealt with or whatever you call > it, when we are "ready to handle it." This bout of anxiety was followed by a > pretty sour bout of depression: desire to go NOWHERE, lack of interest in my > things I love to do (making jewelry, writing, sewing, etc.), being a slug in > bed, etc. Depression followed the anxiety like a rollercoaster ride. > I think that the rollercoaster evens out to a kiddie ride. That’s my analogy > for healing/recovery from PTSD. I can’t change the traumas. I CAN change how > they affect my life. I’m doing that as they emerge. I have a lot of missing > space in my childhood. I know that there is a lot of awful stuff there. I trust > that Myself knows best how to heal Myself. The part of me that got me thru the > horrible abuse is there, still kicking, and now that I am safe it is time to > deal with the "undealable" that I suffered. > There is hope, even though it seems like there is none at some times. > I’m kinda laughing as I write this because in therapy today I began by asking > "Am I ever going to get better?" Now my therapist has done MANY disability > exams for Social Security (which I receive for PTSD). I figured he’d be a good > person to ask, but as most therapists do, he didn’t answer outright (dontcha > love the way the work =) The upshot of his answer was this "you’ve been thru > a rough spot and you’re mind/body are resting from it, taking a break." He > suggested I come back in a couple weeks, and I’ve been seeing him twice a week > during this rough spot. > I am so thankful for this man!!! Therapy with a good therapist gives me hope > (I’ve had bad ones that didn’t do diddly for me, but I wasn’t really willing to > deal with the past so ANYONE would have been pretty much ineffectual!) > Thanks for asking…perhaps this helps a bit, another’s perspective? Best > wishes and hope for you in your own pain and healing from the injuries you’ve > sustained-keep living and you’re bound to beat the monster and be on a > kiddie-ride eventually! YMMV (your mileage may vary) > Kristine > (I emailed this because I didn’t recognize you as a poster and figured that it > couldn’t hurt to mail and post) > The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates
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BaliKris, addressing PTSD, wrote: >It seems like a rollercoaster to me. Recently I >had waves of invasive thoughts and pictures >invading my mind. It was very >anxiety-provoking and disturbing. This was >parts of abuse coming to my conscious mind. >Its all there in the subconscious, only to be >released, remembered, dealt with or whatever >you call it, when we are "ready to handle it." >This bout of anxiety was followed by a pretty >sour bout of depression: desire to go >NOWHERE, lack of interest in my things I love >to do (making jewelry, writing, sewing, etc.), >being a slug in bed, etc. Depression followed >the anxiety like a rollercoaster ride.
Thank you for describing so accurately and succinctly something which’s been ongoing for me lo these past thirty years. I’m just coming out of that depressive state now, but the last few months have really opened my eyes about getting treatment. If I can last at my ‘new’ job for a couple of more months I’ll be eligible for heath care insurance, and that’s always been a hinderence to me in the past because I’ve had trouble staying with an employer long enough to qualify, but I’ve got to start doing something positive about this soon – it’s getting worse over time. A friend sent me a post from this group last week and I’ve been reading all of you with a keen interest, you folks sound like my kind of people, may I start posting here? Pancho
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>I can relate to the slug in bed…..As for the other question, will we have >this our whole lives? I just don’t know. I hope not.
I’m sorry you go thru the slug phases too. The one good thing that I see as improvement is that I’m not beating up on myself for this. I’m not guilt-ridden and shaming myself, rather than that I am listening to my husband’s understanding and acceptance of whatever I can do is good enough. Grace is an amazing thing coming from someone in your life. Yeah, it’ll be there for my life. I don’t have a "pre-trauma me" since it started before birth even. Father shoved mom downstairs hoping to abort me and he always let me know that I ruined his life in having to marry her and then have me around. What Rick said is right…when it starts out like that you’re pretty well stuck with PTSD and left to learn how to deal with it and live your life the best that you can. I can do that…but sometimes its just too much. Its not FAIR. I don’t know about others here, but I have such a strong sense about justice and fairness in all areas of my life. Part of growing up without any "fairness" or even-handed discipline, just abuse and hatred. I wish things in life were fair, don’t you? Kristine The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates
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Welcome Pancho, although I am sorry that you have need for this ng. PTSD SUCKS. Thanks for the compliment regarding the rollercoaster analogy. I notice that you wrote about lasting at jobs for very long. Me too. I had a hard time with it, finally ended up doing freelance work so I had more control. Well, total control. My profession paid well and I earned good money but I just couldn’t cut staying in one place. You’re not alone on that one either. I sincerely hope that you are able to stay on the job to earn the benefits that you need. Welcome, pleased to meet you. Kristine The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates
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> Its not FAIR.
No, it certainly isn’t. > I don’t know about others here, but I have such a strong sense about justice > and fairness in all areas of my life.
OH YEAH!!! Part of growing up without any "fairness" > or even-handed discipline, just abuse and hatred. I wish things in life were > fair, don’t you?
Yeah, but we have to learn to live with life the way it actually is, you know? Makes me just want to get abducted by an alien spaceship some days. To find somewhere better than here! Ah well, I’m ranting… kat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Kristine > The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates
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Welcome Pancho! kat "Pancho" <Leaping_Gira…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17708-3B059C57-59@storefull-294.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BaliKris, addressing PTSD, wrote: > >It seems like a rollercoaster to me. Recently I > >had waves of invasive thoughts and pictures > >invading my mind. It was very > >anxiety-provoking and disturbing. This was > >parts of abuse coming to my conscious mind. > >Its all there in the subconscious, only to be > >released, remembered, dealt with or whatever > >you call it, when we are "ready to handle it." > >This bout of anxiety was followed by a pretty > >sour bout of depression: desire to go > >NOWHERE, lack of interest in my things I love > >to do (making jewelry, writing, sewing, etc.), > >being a slug in bed, etc. Depression followed > >the anxiety like a rollercoaster ride. > Thank you for describing so accurately and succinctly something which’s > been ongoing for me lo these past thirty years. I’m just coming out of > that depressive state now, but the last few months have really opened my > eyes about getting treatment. If I can last at my ‘new’ job for a couple > of more months I’ll be eligible for heath care insurance, and that’s > always been a hinderence to me in the past because I’ve had trouble > staying with an employer long enough to qualify, but I’ve got to start > doing something positive about this soon – it’s getting worse over time. > A friend sent me a post from this group last week and I’ve been reading > all of you with a keen interest, you folks sound like my kind of people, > may I start posting here? > Pancho
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