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I am new to this group. I would like to hear about other peoples experience with co- consciousness. I have been diagnosed with DID but I do not lose time. I don’t remember my childhood, I have a terrible memory, I have PTSD, abreactions and flashbacks but I don’t lose time. I sometimes wonder if my diagnosis is wrong. Is there anyone out there who dissociates but doesn’t lose time? I would like to hear what dissociation/co-conscious is like for you. Carolyn, I’ve been diagnosed DID too but I don’t lose time either. There’s one or two experiences where I may have lost time, but I can’t confirm it. I was reminded of things that I said and I didn’t remember saying them. But those were the rare occasions. Basically, I’m co-conscious for all of those parts that have emerged, but I’m still not aware of how many of them are out there. But I definitely have several separate identities within me and enough people know about it to confirm it. They can tell pretty quickly when "certain" personalities are out. But this has been a gradual awareness-type of thing. At first it was hard to tell, but over time things have solidified a lot more and I find myself losing control of the body several times. I was stuck too on that losing time clause, but by the basic fact that I was unaware that these parts existed in me and there’s large blocks of my childhood that I’ve forgotten, it was enough to confirm the diagnosis. Even if it didn’t quite fit, the treatment still would have been very similar because I don’t see myself as a unified personality and would need to take steps to encourage that. Hope this helps. I didn’t get much sleep last night so I’m not thinking clearly. Take care, Cyn & co.
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I am new to this group.
Welcome Carolyn to the group. I am sure you will benefit from this supportive group. I would like to hear about other peoples experience with co- consciousness.
I am courious myself what people mean when they say co-consciousnes. Can someone explain? I have been diagnosed with DID but I do not lose time. I don’t remember my childhood, I have a terrible memory, I have PTSD, abreactions and flashbacks but I don’t lose time.
I don’t really have the right answers for you but I can relate a little. I have a diss disorder and chronic complex PTSD but I don’t have DID. My memory latley has been a major problem and it is driving me crazy because I can’t remember things. I just don’t remember to do it.I as well have amnesia for part of my childhood and a traumatic incident at age 17 and the 2 years after that.It is somewhat bothersome. I have had ptsd for many many years but I was diagnosed almost 3 years ago. I have been in treatment since my diagnosis. I have flashbachs all the time as well as body memories. I experince allot of derealization and depersonalization. Things sometimes doesn’t feel real. I feel lost allot. To ans your question. No I don’t lose time. My sense of time is off in a major way. ( Big Problem) But I never find myself somewhere and didn’t know how I got there. That I think is called fugue. I sometimes wonder if my diagnosis is wrong. Is there anyone out there who dissociates but doesn’t lose time? I would like to hear what dissociation/co-conscious is like for you.
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I am new to this group. I would like to hear about other peoples experience with co- consciousness. I have been diagnosed with DID but I do not lose time. I don’t remember my childhood, I have a terrible memory, I have PTSD, abreactions and flashbacks but I don’t lose time. I sometimes wonder if my diagnosis is wrong. Is there anyone out there who dissociates but doesn’t lose time? I would like to hear what dissociation/co-conscious is like for you.
Dear Carolyn; I’ve seen pink bunnies’ reply and really like it’ but here’s my thoughts, too. I’m almost a yeaer into my own realization that I have DID; my therp has thought it for like 4 years but she wisely (and correctly) thought that getting me stable was more important than the labesl we use for my situation. Far as I know, rarely if ever lose time. It’s more like I reliquish control of my body and mind… I’m still there, still seeing and hearing and evn participating in talk and action, but I’m not the "front" person any more. Does that make sense? I have gotten less and less concerned about these specifics, to be honest, as I have gotten my feet on the ground. I and all us us are *me* and whether I call us a system, a family, or whatever, the fact is that we have become devoted to each other’s welfare, to the safety and success of the body, the development of a good life. All that and more. Hope I’ve made sense. And I hope your path is easy for you now, or restful at least. Peace on your journey. Be safe, Eudora * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We lay down the road in the walking. Joan Halifax * * Tears can make a river to take you somewhere new. Eudora * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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I am new to this group. I would like to hear about other peoples experience with co- consciousness. I have been diagnosed with DID but I do not lose time. I don’t remember my childhood, I have a terrible memory, I have PTSD, abreactions and flashbacks but I don’t lose time. I sometimes wonder if my diagnosis is wrong. Is there anyone out there who dissociates but doesn’t lose time? I would like to hear what dissociation/co-conscious is like for you.
you are probably not going to like hearing this, but just because you are not aware of losing time does not mean that you do not lose time. it took a long time for our therp to diagnose us DID (versus DDNOS). when it became clear that she had finally made a decision about that (by things she said in sessions–she never made an announcement), i asked her what made her decide we were mp. she said it was because of the "amount of time you lose." my response was: huh??????? butbutbut…i *don’t* lose time!!!!!! :P~~~~~~ until relatively recently, i never *knew* when i lost time. seems like we have developed a means of having access to at least the outlines of what was going on or where the body was, so that we can "pass" in the world. just didn’t notice that i really didn’t know enough of the details. i call what we do "stitching time" because it never feels like an abrupt transition. so there isn’t any sense of waking up suddenly somewhere else. and as we have continued in therapy, we have developed more internal communication, or at least a greater ability to overhear each other and observe each other being out. we do lose very little time now, and we have learned how to notice those times that we do. pink bunnies / ~ ) All conditions are temporary `o’_* — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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I am courious myself what people mean when they say co-consciousnes. Can someone explain? Co-consciousness, as I understand it, is when one personality may be in control of the body or "out", whereas the host personality, another personality, or several personalities are still present and aware of their thoughts and actions and is largely an observer. This is another type of presentation for multiples that varies from the common concept of "losing time" and often the degree of co-consciousness varies between patients and also in different stages of therapy. For some multiples, there is complete co-consciousness, where there is no present-day time loss (I get confused sometimes just whether this meets the criteria for DID or if it is primarily DDNOS – it’s still a bit of a grey area). But there can also be partial co-consciousness, where a personality is present with some personalities, but not others; or it can be one-sided, where one may be co-conscious with another, but the reverse does not occur. Generally, in most treatments, therapists try to encourage co-consciousnes-to encourage greater cooperation among alters and to improve the general level of functioning of the whole system. The way that I once described this for a friend is that it’s like being in one of those two-seater airplane rides you often find at amusement parks. There is one person who is in the front seat and I’m in the backseat, behind the other person. I’m basically on the same ride as them and I can see for the most part what is going on, although occasionally my view is a bit obstructed and I sort of have to fill in the pieces. But the person in front has all of the controls and determines basically what we’re doing. And I can speak to the person and give them suggestions, but they can either act on them or ignore them. And I know that if I had to, I could rush forward and take control, but it might be difficult if the other person doesn’t want to yield control. I hope this helps to clarify things some. Feel free to write back if you have any more questions. Cynthia
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am courious myself what people mean when they say co-consciousnes. Can someone explain? Co-consciousness, as I understand it, is when one personality may be in control of the body or "out", whereas the host personality, another personality, or several personalities are still present and aware of their thoughts and actions and is largely an observer. This is another type of presentation for multiples that varies from the common concept of "losing time" and often the degree of co-consciousness varies between patients and also in different stages of therapy. For some multiples, there is complete co-consciousness, where there is no present-day time loss (I get confused sometimes just whether this meets the criteria for DID or if it is primarily DDNOS – it’s still a bit of a grey area).
Aslo, it can be both. I don’t know if the "experts" agree on this one or not 
but i know that in our system, we can have more than one person out at a time, and while that’s happening, even, someone else in the system is having time lost. like with me, i am co-c whenever lilly is out and sometimes when ola is out, and very very rarely when sonja is out, but whenever angel(wing) or wisp is out i am completely gone. But there can also be partial co-consciousness, where a personality is present with some personalities, but not others; or it can be one-sided, where one may be co-conscious with another, but the reverse does not occur.
yup yup yup. There is such a wide varietyeven in our own system that there’s *got* to be more different types of consciousness/co-consciousness. it’s kind of neat how it all works. The way that I once described this for a friend is that it’s like being in one of those two-seater airplane rides you often find at amusement parks. There is one person who is in the front seat and I’m in the backseat, behind the other person. I’m basically on the same ride as them and I can see for the most part what is going on, although occasionally my view is a bit obstructed and I sort of have to fill in the pieces. But the person in front has all of the controls and determines basically what we’re doing. And I can speak to the person and give them suggestions, but they can either act on them or ignore them. And I know that if I had to, I could rush forward and take control, but it might be difficult if the other person doesn’t want to yield control.
oh, i like that one! I usually describe it as "I’m out, but so-and-so is looking over my shoulder." with the littles, especially, it kind of feels like i’m giving them a mental piggyback ride. -willow i’m going to add just some blather here, because i still can’t figure out how to make my newsreader accept a post that has more quoted lines than original ones. here’s a picture of a mouse i found (o) (o) (o o) ==.== ) (m m) ( m(___)m_)
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You guys are so nice. Thanks for the support. We’ve just had one of those days from hell and needed that. Cyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The way that I once described this for a friend is that it’s like being in one of those two-seater airplane rides you often find at TREMENDOUS analogy!! I understand completely. Jeff I agree she done did good eh??? Kaitlyn * SECRET GARDEN * = = * I close my eyes to enter the gate my imagination is the only key * = I move along the cobblestoned walk towards a special place I see = * The shade, the leaves, the golden sun all dance upon the ground * = There is a tree that stands alone = * that weeps it’s leaves without a sound * = To enter here you have to know my pain that is so real = * and so this place is mine alone until one day I heal. * = = * by Lacey of Kaitlyn Et Al * = copyright 1994 = * *
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The way that I once described this for a friend is that it’s like being in one of those two-seater airplane rides you often find at TREMENDOUS analogy!! I understand completely. Jeff I agree she done did good eh??? Kaitlyn * SECRET GARDEN * = = * I close my eyes to enter the gate my imagination is the only key * = I move along the cobblestoned walk towards a special place I see = * The shade, the leaves, the golden sun all dance upon the ground * = There is a tree that stands alone = * that weeps it’s leaves without a sound * = To enter here you have to know my pain that is so real = * and so this place is mine alone until one day I heal. * = = * by Lacey of Kaitlyn Et Al * = copyright 1994 = * *
I have been diagnosed with DID and am looking for a friend. I feel like I am the only one with this disorder. No one truly understands my pain and confusion. Can you help?
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