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Commitment, an online magazine for women (http://www.committment.com) is doing a series on women suffering with ptsd. We would like to interview women with ptsd for this series. How are you coping with ptsd? What misconceptions do the general population tend to have about ptsd? What is day to day life like? If you are interested in being interviewed for this series via e-mail, please contact us directly at Fra…@AOL.COM. Thanks. —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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<Commitment, an online magazine for women <(http://www.committment.com) is <doing a series on women suffering with ptsd. We would like to interview <women <with ptsd for this series. How are you coping with ptsd? What <misconceptions <do the general population tend to have about ptsd? What is day to day life <like? If you are interested in being interviewed for this series via e-<mail, <please contact us directly at Fra…@AOL.COM. Thanks. I had to laugh when I read this!!!! Once again, ANYONE even thinking about replying to this please do you research and find out more information. Personally, I don’t believe that the ng is the place to look for trauma victims, and that a serious writer would use other sources. JUST MY OPIONION. Eileen
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Boy, they sure do want us as guineau pigs on this ng, don’t they??? Luanne
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In article <6fam8i$t4…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Fra…@AOL.COM wrote: > Commitment, an online magazine for women (http://www.committment.com) is > doing a series on women suffering with ptsd. We would like to interview women > with ptsd for this series. How are you coping with ptsd?
You know, perhaps we are celeberities here in this news group! Oh, I dunno. I’m new to this news group. Is there always this much interest in PTSD? I guess I’m not pissed about the last couple of requests anymore. Should I be flattered that we here in this group are sought out so much? Hum. -Eric PS. I wonder why 20/20 or dateline hasn’t stopped by? —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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Fra…@AOL.COM has been busy. Here is a list of posts they/he/she have given. I checked many of the posts out, and they do claim to be for the magazine. 42 unique articles posted. Number of articles posted to individual newsgroups (slightly skewed by cross-postings): Help 3 alt.support.divorce 2 rec.music.makers.percussion 1 alt.arts.poetry.comments 1 alt.arts.storytelling 1 alt.books.reviews 1 alt.collecting.teddy-bears 1 alt.mothers 1 alt.music.alternative.female 1 alt.society.generation-x 1 alt.support.grief 1 alt.support.loneliness 1 alt.support.marriage 1 alt.support.menopause 1 alt.support.single-parents 1 alt.support.step-parents 1 alt.support.trauma-ptsd 1 alt.wedding 1 misc.kids 1 misc.kids.breastfeeding 1 misc.writing 1 misc.writing.screenplays 1 rec.arts.books.childrens 1 rec.arts.poems 1 rec.collecting.dolls 1 rec.music.makers 1 rec.music.makers.songwriting 1 rec.music.marketplace.cd 1 rec.music.misc 1 rec.music.newage 1 rec.music.opera 1 rec.music.ragtime 1 rec.music.video 1 rec.sport.basketball.women 1 sci.psychology.psychotherapy 1 soc.couples.wedding 1 soc.retirement 1 soc.senior.health+fitness 1 soc.senior.issues 1 soc.women -eric —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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>PS. I wonder why 20/20 or dateline hasn’t stopped by?
Eric, That is precisly the point of why I would stay away from ng snoopers. (Not to be compared with Lurking, which we like). Snoopers have obviously not done their own research and are trying to "put the cart before the horse". There is quite a bit of research on PTSD. There are some very good Books available at Amazon online. This research should be done prior to speaking with a trauma victim. I actually have more patience with the student that does not know any better then the professional who barges in with no consideration of the harm they could potentially cause. The reason dateline is not barging in is because proper reseach techniques are used in most circumstances. Every question the last person put forward has been addressed in one aspect or another. I strongly feel this is not the place to look for people, and that newly traumatised victims are sitting ducks to possible exploitation by these people (I refuse to use the term professional). It is common for someone in the beginning stages of PTSD to want/need to recount their story over and over again. This is why I am so against snoopers in this particular ng. They don’t belong here, and I say GO AWAY. There are many ways to reseach or find the names of PTSD sufferers who would be better suited to respond. This truly is not the place. The damage that could result from a poorly written article is imaginable, unfortunately, the ones that can really recognize this typically have a couple of years under them.I would never want anyone here (lurkers included) to be harmed, but I really want this message to be clear to those most vulnerable, people in the first stages of PTSD with little or no coping mechanisms. How about some feedback on this view…Nancy, Wally<g>, Don, JP…….oh what the heck, how about roll call:) Eileen
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Okay Eileen, for you I will get sucked into this discussion. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That is precisly the point of why I would stay away from ng snoopers. (Not to > be compared with Lurking, which we like). Snoopers have obviously not done > their own research and are trying to "put the cart before the horse". There is > quite a bit of research on PTSD. There are some very good Books available at > Amazon online. This research should be done prior to speaking with a trauma > victim. I actually have more patience with the student that does not know any > better then the professional who barges in with no consideration of the harm > they could potentially cause. The reason dateline is not barging in is because > proper reseach techniques are used in most circumstances. Every question the > last person put forward has been addressed in one aspect or another. > I strongly feel this is not the place to look for people, and that newly > traumatised victims are sitting ducks to possible exploitation by these people > (I refuse to use the term professional). It is common for someone in the > beginning stages of PTSD to want/need to recount their story over and over > again. This is why I am so against snoopers in this particular ng. They don’t > belong here, and I say GO AWAY. There are many ways to reseach or find the > names of PTSD sufferers who would be better suited to respond. This truly is > not the place. The damage that could result from a poorly written article is > imaginable, unfortunately, the ones that can really recognize this typically > have a couple of years under them.I would never want anyone here (lurkers > included) to be harmed, but I really want this message to be clear to those > most vulnerable, people in the first stages of PTSD with little or no coping > mechanisms. > How about some feedback on this view…Nancy, Wally<g>, Don, JP…….oh what > the heck, how about roll call:)
I, myself, can only refuse to get involved with those folks. Of course, enabler that I am, I took in a copy of one request to my therapist. She doesn’t think that the internet is an appropriate place to find customers (Ok … clients or patients). I cannot save nor help folks who are PTSD newbies who want to recount their stories. IMO they need diagnosis and treatment, in person. The ng is a good place to encourage ourselves and share examples on how we are finally learning to honor ourselves. THE NG IS ***NOT*** A SUBSTITUTE FOR ACTUAL IN PERSON TREATMENT. As PTSD folks routinely retraumatize ourselves with in-person encounters, I fail to understand how retraumatizing ourselves in email can be any worse. I, myself, need to get off the path of retraumatizing myself anywhere. I prefer to ignore the diatribes (read 4-letter words, angry e-mail, acting out on the ng) and the requests to participate in studies. It’s important that _I_ learn to NOT be sucked into negative stuff from other folks … I’ve certainly got enough of my own negative stuff to share if I really wanted to share it here. I just think that sharing negative stuff on the internet is not a very positive idea for me.Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
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I tried emailing this idiot "Fra…@aol.com" The account no longer exists!!! Sincerely, Luanne
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Last few days have been kinda stressful. On top of that i remembered some details about a past event. Now I’m kinda like not here and someone else is walking my legs and my beathing is real shallow. Like my fingers are someone elses. So strange, my memories are not that disturbing to me. I was not that stressed out. Very strange. Like I’m spacing again, but the committee is not yammering in my head. Finding it hard to concentrate too and focus on work. But I’m not depressed like I was before, and not all sweaty. Consiously– I have no worries. My project is over. Nothing to worry about. Maybe I am comming down with a cold? -perplexed —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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Since you asked… I view this as a support group. I come here for support, but also to give support. I believe and feel it is my responsibility to others to share what I have experienced and learned, in a meaningful way keeping in mind this is for support. I’m trying to return what was shared with me. It also helps me give meaning to my experiences. Months ago several researchers posted requests on this newsgroup asking for help with PTSD research projects. I took part in several studies, after checking out who I was dealing with. I felt it was one more way I could contribute to helping others with PTSD. On the other hand, I’m also keenly aware that the Internet is a place for stalkers, people sexually acting out, etc. I felt strongly enough (and still feel the same) that the word about PTSD needs to get out to victims, survivors, AND the general populace, that I spent dozens of hours building my PTSD web site, which I still manage regularly. Speaking only for myself, if someone who does not have PTSD wanders into this group and wants to learn about PTSD, I have no problem pointing them in the right direction, there are plenty of Web Sites and books available on the subject. More people need to learn about PTSD and take it very seriously. As far as sharing the stories of my trauma, I hold the right to choose who, when, how, where, what and why. For the right reasons I would and have shared. Some things I likely may never talk about. The point is I’m not personally offended because someone asked, if they asked nicely. If my answer is no, I can say it nicely. I wouldn’t like being referred to as a Guinea Pig, but if it’s a legit PTSD study that will help others with PTSD, I will probably choose to open up. I guess my beliefs would be equivalent to a 12th Step. Those of us who have been there, or are there, need each others support. As for anyone making the choice for me that I should/shouldn’t share certain things with certain people, or that I need to protect certain people or have someone else protect me here in the newsgroup, I think I can set those boundaries and make those judgements for myself, and that others need to follow their own paths. I also think that if someone else’s path is different than my own, I can honor that, and them. JP Lurking ……..
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x-archive-no JP, I got you out of lurk mode<g> Finch, are you lurking too? I have to tell you, it feels good to smile as I type this. Two years ago if you had asked me if I thought it possible to smile again , I would have growled at you. I had never heard of Nancys "smile and you’ll have something to smile about" verse before. But I used to repeat it in my head when things were pretty gray. It is true, and two years has brought me a long way from where I was then (a cannot say enough for weekly therapy with a competent truama trained Dr). While things are far from perfect, they certainly are better. E.
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Eileen writes> > I had to laugh when I read this!!!! Once again, ANYONE even thinking about > replying to this please do you research and find out more information. > Personally, I don’t believe that the ng is the place to look for trauma > victims, and that a serious writer would use other sources. JUST MY OPIONION.
I have to come out of ‘lurk’ for this. I have PTSD and I have also been commissioned to write a book on PTSD. I only had a modem installed so that I could research PTSD – both to try to help myself and to do research for the book. Why on earth do you think a writer would not use this format? I have learned more about PTSD in the few weeks since I subscribed to this ng than in the seventeen months since I have been diagnosed. Furthermore, where do you think they *would* look for trauma victims? If you think it’s such a suspicious thing, and that a writer would not use this method, why not subscribe to some writers’ ngs for a while and see how they work? I saw another message that says this poster has cross-posted to 42 other ngs. I have subscribed to a couple of dozen – on all sorts of subjects. A writer doesn’t just write on one subject, or research one theme at a time. Best wishes, Jackie
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Jackie Lewis wrote: > I have to come out of ‘lurk’ for this. I have PTSD
Then tell us about it when you are ready. > and I have also been > commissioned to write a book on PTSD.
You do not have my permission to use any information garnished from this news group, or any other source, about me without my consent, and I do not give you or anyone else that right! > I only had a modem installed so that > I could research PTSD – both to try to help myself and to do research for > the book.
Why do you feel you need to defend the installation of a modem in your computer? I can’t speak for the rest of us, but I find no need to justify my modem, I don’t use it for unjustifiable reasons. > Why on earth do you think a writer would not use this format?
There are those on this news group who have been stalked, molested, raped, shot, and sexually abused. There are Vietnam Vets, POW’s, Police Officers, Firemen… The list goes on and on. We all have many things in common, one of which is issues of trust. Because you think you can use "us" you are victimizing the victim, prying into others trauma without their permission, you re-traumatize some who might have felt somewhat safe to talk about their issues here, denying them for your own monetary gain. I feel as if you are stalking me, and I don’t feel safe! I don’t like it! > I have > learned more about PTSD in the few weeks since I subscribed to this ng than > in the seventeen months since I have been diagnosed.
I’m sure you have, but at who’s expense and what cost to them? > Furthermore, where do > you think they *would* look for trauma victims?
"They", don’t you mean "I"? You are sounding more and more like you were diagnosed as a paparazzi! > If you think it’s such a suspicious thing, and that a writer would not use > this method, why not subscribe to some writers’ ngs for a while and see how > they work?
I don’t want to know about "writers"! I want to learn to live in my world without all this constant pain. As far as "suspicious" goes, it’s part of PTSD. Some call it paranoia, I call it instinct, and I’ve learned to listen to it! > I saw another message that says this poster has cross-posted to 42 other > ngs. I have subscribed to a couple of dozen – on all sorts of subjects. A > writer doesn’t just write on one subject, or research one theme at a time.
So go write about someone else, leave me alone! George
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Jackie: I you do not have MY permission to use anything from me in your book either. If you are subscribed to my mailing list on PTSD, you can consider yourself unsubscribed. Luanne
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x-archive-no Hi jackie, I will try and explain my view one last time. I WANT additional reseach done on PTSD, although this newsgroup I feel is not an ideal place. Proper research is not conducted this way. If you do not understand that then might I suggest that being your first area of study. It is not myself I am concerned for, I know my boundaries. Nor will I go beyond posting warnings for others, as they must be in charge of there own healing. Having said that, I will tell you I was a walking duck for an unprofessional writers a couple of years ago, and i thank my higher power that I was not victimized by one. Should someone have come to the ng asking for a story, I very well might have responded because I felt very safe here. This ng might be the only connection to the outside world for some people, and it can bring about the feeling of "safe" and "non-exploitative" which is not necessarily true. Since you are only 17 months into your PTSD then you certainly should be able to recall living in confusion, searching for answers, and ready to grasp any any thing that brought about a since of hope, not to mention a time period of living without coping skills. This list can go on and on. I don’t know how much clearer I can make this. DURING THIS TIME FRAME AN INDIVIDUAL IS VERY VULNERABLE. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. While you may be legit, the next person may not. It is very difficult to distinguish between the two. So my message is really aimed for the newbie. Be careful when considering answering ads for stories. Check your resources. If your in therapy (which I also encourage) please talk with your therapist about it. A poorly written story could have severe consequences. Period. There is a lot of information on PTSD out there Jackie, unfortunateley there is not the answer on how to rid oneself of it. I am already highly suspect of any publication that has hired someone with little knowledge on the subject to write an article. There are many educated professionals that are easily accessible that frequently write on the subject. Eileen > I have PTSD and I have also been >commissioned to write a book on PTSD. I only had a modem installed so >that >I could research PTSD – both to try to help myself and to do research for >the book.
>Why on earth do you think a writer would not use this format? I have – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->learned more about PTSD in the few weeks since I subscribed to this ng >than >in the seventeen months since I have been diagnosed. Furthermore, >where do >you think they *would* look for trauma victims?
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Well put Eileen. I’m with you. Jackie, I highly recommend going to http://www.amazon.com books and running a search on PTSD. There you will find several excellent books by Aphrodite Matsakis, van der Kolk, and several others. Out of curioisity, who commissioned you? JP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -HeyYou97 wrote: > x-archive-no > Hi jackie, > I will try and explain my view one last time. > I WANT additional reseach done on PTSD, although this newsgroup I feel is not > an ideal place. Proper research is not conducted this way. If you do not > understand that then might I suggest that being your first area of study. > It is not myself I am concerned for, I know my boundaries. Nor will I go > beyond posting warnings for others, as they must be in charge of there own > healing. Having said that, I will tell you I was a walking duck for an > unprofessional writers a couple of years ago, and i thank my higher power that > I was not victimized by one. Should someone have come to the ng asking for a > story, I very well might have responded because I felt very safe here. This ng > might be the only connection to the outside world for some people, and it can > bring about the feeling of "safe" and "non-exploitative" which is not > necessarily true. Since you are only 17 months into your PTSD then you > certainly should be able to recall living in confusion, searching for answers, > and ready to grasp any any thing that brought about a since of hope, not to > mention a time period of living without coping skills. This list can go on and > on. I don’t know how much clearer I can make this. DURING THIS TIME FRAME AN > INDIVIDUAL IS VERY VULNERABLE. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. While you may > be legit, the next person may not. It is very difficult to distinguish between > the two. So my message is really aimed for the newbie. Be careful when > considering answering ads for stories. Check your resources. If your in > therapy (which I also encourage) please talk with your therapist about it. A > poorly written story could have severe consequences. Period. > There is a lot of information on PTSD out there Jackie, unfortunateley there is > not the answer on how to rid oneself of it. I am already highly suspect of any > publication that has hired someone with little knowledge on the subject to > write an article. There are many educated professionals that are easily > accessible that frequently write on the subject. > Eileen > > I have PTSD and I have also been > >commissioned to write a book on PTSD. I only had a modem installed so >that > >I could research PTSD – both to try to help myself and to do research for > >the book. > >Why on earth do you think a writer would not use this format? I have > >learned more about PTSD in the few weeks since I subscribed to this ng >than > >in the seventeen months since I have been diagnosed. Furthermore, >where do > >you think they *would* look for trauma victims?
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