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That’s the group you all need to be in.  It seems everyone in here has become a troll.  Try kicking your dog, swinging the cat around by the tail, or breaking glasses against the wall.  Its good therapy…instead of taking it out on other people who you really don’t know.  Im addressing the whole fucking group with this message! Take your anger to real life situations where you can really fuck shit up……heres my plan:  get piss drunk, get a gun and start walking down the street at night…if anyone says anything to me whether theyre in a car or just walking by….Ill fire at ‘m.  Then I think I’ll go into a convenience store and get some more beer…and walk out without paying…if anyone looks at me weird I’ll simply fire at them…hahahhahah…Im just bullshitting, but there’s gotta be better solutions to this anger problem???

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"blacknblue" <crewfan…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:b7362ea0.0310031200.9850638@posting.google.com… > That’s the group you all need to be in.  It seems everyone in here has > become a troll.  Try kicking your dog, swinging the cat around by the > tail, or breaking glasses against the wall.  Its good > therapy…instead of taking it out on other people who you really > don’t know.  Im addressing the whole fucking group with this message! > Take your anger to real life situations where you can really fuck shit > up……heres my plan:  get piss drunk, get a gun and start walking > down the street at night…if anyone says anything to me whether > theyre in a car or just walking by….Ill fire at ‘m.  Then I think > I’ll go into a convenience store and get some more beer…and walk out > without paying…if anyone looks at me weird I’ll simply fire at > them…hahahhahah…Im just bullshitting, but there’s gotta be better > solutions to this anger problem???

Who do think you are???  What right have you got to come along and start preaching??? You are definitely completely insane and no doubt are a megalomaniac suffering from schizophrenic delusions!!!  I will hound you from now on until I have you pleading for mercy at the very gates of hell!!! (only kidding)  ;)

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crewfan…@yahoo.com (blacknblue) wrote in message <news:b7362ea0.0310031200.9850638@posting.google.com>… > them…hahahhahah…Im just bullshitting, but there’s gotta be better > solutions to this anger problem???

you could try the prayer that starts off AA meetings, something like grant me the courage to change the things i can change the serenity to accept the things i cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference never been to an AA meeting myself, o’doul’s is the strongest non-precription stuff i use.

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Hi ask John or Pter about it. They bought tons of books and they seem to know how to control their anger. They are experts. But in their case they failed. They came online and started expressing their anger in that way. So there are tons of books out there. Do a search in google and you wilol do fine. god luck!

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On 4 Oct 2003 01:56:55 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >crewfan…@yahoo.com (blacknblue) wrote in message <news:b7362ea0.0310031200.9850638@posting.google.com>… >> them…hahahhahah…Im just bullshitting, but there’s gotta be better >> solutions to this anger problem??? >you could try the prayer that starts off AA meetings, something like >grant me the courage to change the things i can change >the serenity to accept the things i cannot change >and the wisdom to know the difference >never been to an AA meeting myself, o’doul’s is the strongest >non-precription stuff i use.

You drink O’Douls’s! I’ve always hated the taste of beer and only drink it in appropriate situations (even then I stick to the better tasting beers like Heineken and Dos Equis, no cheap stuff). Drinking beer just for the taste (from my perspective) seems weird.

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John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > You drink O’Douls’s! I’ve always hated the taste of beer and only > drink it in appropriate situations (even then I stick to the better > tasting beers like Heineken and Dos Equis, no cheap stuff). Drinking > beer just for the taste (from my perspective) seems weird.

hey, it may not be a fancy foreign beer, but it’s not cheap stuff like keystone, either. non-alcoholic beer is a food; i drink it for nutritional purposes. and amber o’doul’s is actually pretty good, although rather hard to find compared to the regular o’doul’s.

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On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > You drink O’Douls’s! I’ve always hated the taste of beer and only >> drink it in appropriate situations (even then I stick to the better >> tasting beers like Heineken and Dos Equis, no cheap stuff). Drinking >> beer just for the taste (from my perspective) seems weird. >hey, it may not be a fancy foreign beer, but it’s not cheap stuff like >keystone, either.

I haven’t had Keystone, but I assume it has alcohol in it. That’s a step up. ;-) > non-alcoholic beer is a food; i drink it for >nutritional purposes.

I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> and amber o’doul’s is actually pretty good, >although rather hard to find compared to the regular o’doul’s.

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John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… > On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: > I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes > from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. > Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-)

my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting more sleep & exercise.

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On 8 Oct 2003 09:58:37 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… >> On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >> I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes >> from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. >> Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) >my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & >taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting >more sleep & exercise.

Drinking red wine is extremely good for you. Aspirin, while good, has some major flaws. I don’t know about more sleep but exercise is best. I don’t know enough about non alcoholic beer to comment. If it’s anything like regular beer it’s empty calories.

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John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:iivbovgtje55cd6jotdv909ki0gq4udpf3@4ax.com>… > Drinking red wine is extremely good for you. Aspirin, while good, has > some major flaws. I don’t know about more sleep but exercise is best. > I don’t know enough about non alcoholic beer to comment. If it’s > anything like regular beer it’s empty calories.

fyi, here’s american heart association’s commentary on red wine, from http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4422 note the reference to lifestyle and direct comparison trials. Over the past several decades, many studies have been published in science journals about how drinking alcohol may be associated with reduced mortality due to heart disease in some populations. Some researchers have suggested that the benefit may be due to wine, especially red wine. Others are examining the potential benefits of components in red wine such as flavonoids (FLAV’oh-noidz) and other antioxidants (an"tih-OK’sih-dants) in reducing heart disease risk. Some of these components may be found in other foods such as grapes or red grape juice. The linkage reported in many of these studies may be due to other lifestyle factors rather than alcohol. Such factors may include increased physical activity, and a diet high in fruits and vegetables and lower in saturated fats No direct comparison trials have been done to determine the specific effect of wine or other alcohol on the risk of developing heart disease or stroke.

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yitwail wrote: > John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… >>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes >>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. >>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) > my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & > taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting > more sleep & exercise.

I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you are laughing at or might hurt you.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message <news:fJnlb.12204$Uz6.8411@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>… > yitwail wrote: > > John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… > >>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: > >>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes > >>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. > >>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) > > my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & > > taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting > > more sleep & exercise. > I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone > you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I > guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the > person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a > ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you > are laughing at or might hurt you.

good one. but can’t punch a bag & drive–what passes for driving really–on a gridlocked freeway. :( i can only take so much of people speeding up as soon as they see my lane change signal or getting in front of me without signalling and making me hit the brakes until i yell. i think the root problem isn’t expressing anger, it’s feeling anger; but if you’re angry already, might as well vent it in a harmless way.

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My son takes a hammer and a couple 2×4’s and beats the heck out of ‘em… he really gets it out that way. New trick he learned. Crackwalker "Katz Heitmann" <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:fJnlb.12204$Uz6.8411@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > yitwail wrote: > > John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

<news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: > >>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes > >>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. > >>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) > > my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & > > taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting > > more sleep & exercise. > I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone > you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I > guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the > person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a > ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you > are laughing at or might hurt you.

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Jim Summers87 wrote: >>From the moment he sat down, I wanted to kick the bitch in the >>head. >   I think of more creative ways of humiliation. Perhaps shaving her head would > be more satisfying? It’s slower and drags out the degradation longer…

You should have dropped a piece of used chewing gum in her hair and then moved somewhere else in the theater.  Why a gob of chewing gum?  Cause it is hard to get out of hair it will ruin her hairdo. I hate the people who talk during the picture.  You cannot get arrested for dropping a gob of chewing gum into a person’s hair but if you kick her in the head that is assault. In the dark of a theater she won’t see your face so she won’t know who did it and then you move to another section before she finds the gum in her hair.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message <news:2lhob.11837$X22.4487@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>… > Have you thought of moving out of the city or closer to the places you > have to go so you can walk or take the bus.  Let someone else drive or > walk.  So you don’t have to drive on the crowded freeway all the time. > Or you could throw an empty bottle at their back windshield when they do > that.  Or a wet bag of flower.  I was thinking a paint ball gun fire a > paint ball at their back windshield.  Or a wad of chewing gum into their > open window as they pass you.  Or onto their window as they hurl past > you.  They might hit someone else and get into an accident even without > that.  Just realize they are stupid immature and will probably wrap > their car around a tree eventually and drive carefully try not to play > their game.  They want to deliberately make you mad are you going to let > them make you angry?  Are you going to let them have control over your > moods?  You are a grown man so why do you let stupid people make you > angry?  One day someone is going to kill them or they will do themselves > in all you have to do is stand by and don’t get mixed up in their death.

i have been trying to move somewhere closer to my workplace for months, but things haven’t worked out so far. what i feel like doing isn’t necessarily what i ought to do, which is to ignore as you point out. but sometimes i react emotionally. besides yelling, i do sarcastic things sometimes like applauding or blowing a kiss. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->   You see their actions doom them they are foolish you know better.  So > stay away from them avoid them stay to the right lane drive a > comfortable speed and let them be fools.  Do not be fools with them.  Do > not allow their foolish behavior to affect you.  Just listen to your > music and think of it as private time and all the weird aggressive and > boneheaded behavior as part of the landscape.  You can navigate them > without becoming angry or losing your composure since everytime you get > tense you are less able to cope with the pattern.  Every time you work > within the pattern established whether you like what the other drivers > do or not you are better able to cope with the changes.  Also you are > happier you feel better and you feel less angry. > Imagine the other drivers as an obsticle course designed to make your > drive to work memorable and interesting like it is an adventure rather > than a curse.  It’s probably the most exciting part of your day driving > to work.  You cannot change the other driver’s stupid behavior by > anything you do honking your horn shouting you just make yourself > unhappy.  So figure it is an adventure and try to live with the crazy > things your fellow drivers do rather than think you can change them.  To > change your life you can change what you do and how you do it or you can > change your perception of your life which is the most powerful thing you > can use to make your life more bearable.  In grid lock you can listen to > audio books, think about the people you love think about books teachers, > whatever you don’t have to sit there taping your finger on the wheel you > have to keep your car stationary but your mind can be active and you can > put your body on auto to deal with other drivers and their antics.

i cannot survive traffic without the cd player in the car. most of the time, i can shrug off the antics of aggressive or inconsiderate drivers. but when i’m really pressed for time, > I would imagine they are trying to provoke you into hitting them to slow > you down even further it’s a contest of wills are you willing to let > them make you feel anything you don’t want to feel?  Your emotions are > your own and you should let a perfect stranger make you feel one ounce > of anger, guilt or sadness.  You cannot control anything anyone does so > why let them control you.  You don’t care about these people at all > other than what they do effects you.  So minimize their effect on you.

again, intellectually it doesn’t matter squat what total strangers think about you, but it’s the essence of social phobia to fret about this very thing. > Another thing is to refuse to get angry because there is nothing you can > do to them much.  Other than to seize the wheel in your inside hand if > someone blocks you in your lane and slide your outside hand down the > wheel as if you might try to jump in their lane with them in it. It will > terrify them adopt a crazy grin like you just got out of the psychic > ward are on heavy medication and you might just pull out a gun and blow > them away for no reason at all.

your suggestions are "creative"–even if they might be destructive if actually acted upon–but ignoring all the low-lifes & ignoramuses on the road is best, because an individual that drives like a maniac might actually be a maniac, so one risks provoking a physical confrontation by reacting to such people. > Tail gators you turn on your highbeams if you are running your head > lights briefly so it looks like you are tapping your brakes when you > aren’t or they may swerve to miss you and hit the other aggressive > driver riding you back bumper stopping them both. Allowing you to change > lanes.  Or you can give up the fight drop your speed 10 mph let all of > them pass you and hop in the other lane before a slower car

i like how you spelled tailgater, although it’s a disservice to alligators. :)

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Hops are used to brew beer. http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~bjaus/page14.htm Meryl On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:50:21 GMT, "Maxxie Moore" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<maxxiem…@yahoo.com> wrote: >Well, I don’t know who started this thread or why, but now I’m going to >chime in.  First, someone said that most beer is made from potatoes.  I love >the thought. It’s a hoot.  But it ain’t right.  It’s vodka that is made from >potatoes.  Beer is made from barley and hops. Truthfully, I have no more >idea of what a hop is than I had of what a bullox was, but look at the label >on a can of beer.  It always says hops. I assume that that is plural, that a >beer contains more than one hop, that it contains many hops. >Re:  being pissed off while you’re driving.  It’s called road rage.  They >shoot people in California for it.  Or rather, people in California who get >it shoot people who cause it.  Occasionally, I want to shoot someone.  I had >a case of movie-seat rage the other night.  That’s right.  Movie-seat rage. >Ever heard of it?  I got a prime, center seat in a theater, and two minutes >before the movie started some woman dragged her husband in and sat him down >in front of me so that I had to look over her husband’s head for the rest of >the movie.  From the moment he sat down, I wanted to kick the bitch in the >head. >That wouldn’t have been so bad, but I had just left a theater with stadium >seating and superb surround sound and had gone immediately to this >old-fashioned movie house with the seats all on a slightly sloping floor. >(It was Halloween, and I had no more intention of bouncing from my chair to >the door all evening to dole out candy to diminutive goblins than I had of >sitting in a pool of refrigerated liverwerst.)   I came very, very close to >getting up and moving to the seat directly in front of that bitch, but I >didn’t.  I don’t know why I didn’t, but I didn’t.  And I didn’t respect >myself in the morning for not doing it.  But it would have been better than >kicking her in the head, right?  But then, it doesn’t matter becasue I >didn’t kick her in the head.  I only thought about it, at which time I >realized I was off my f*king rocker.  I just had a case of movie-seat rage, >so I sat impassively in my seat and didn’t move. >I love the anonymity of posting to a forum like this.  Maxxie Moore is no >more my name–and apparently no more indicative of my gender–than Stevie >Nicks is. >So you get pissed off at drivers who cut you off?  That’s normal.  Don’t >sweat it, and don’t move to town. >If you’re past 30, it’s getting to be too problematic to move anyway.  Your >possessions no longer fit into the trunk of a car.  They might even have >gotten to be quite nice, and you don’t want the finish ruinied by scratches >and scrapes or the upholstery plucked by careless pricks. >"Katz Heitmann" <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:2lhob.11837$X22.4487@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… >> yitwail wrote: >> > Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message ><news:fJnlb.12204$Uz6.8411@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>… >> >>yitwail wrote: >> >>>John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message ><news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… >> >>>>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >> >>>>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes >> >>>>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. >> >>>>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) >> >>>my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & >> >>>taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting >> >>>more sleep & exercise. >> >>I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone >> >>you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I >> >>guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the >> >>person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a >> >>ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you >> >>are laughing at or might hurt you. >> > good one. but can’t punch a bag & drive–what passes for driving >> > really–on a gridlocked freeway. :( i can only take so much of people >> > speeding up as soon as they see my lane change signal or getting in >> > front of me without signalling and making me hit the brakes until i >> > yell. i think the root problem isn’t expressing anger, it’s feeling >> > anger; but if you’re angry already, might as well vent it in a >> > harmless way. >> Have you thought of moving out of the city or closer to the places you >> have to go so you can walk or take the bus.  Let someone else drive or >> walk.  So you don’t have to drive on the crowded freeway all the time. >> Or you could throw an empty bottle at their back windshield when they do >> that.  Or a wet bag of flower.  I was thinking a paint ball gun fire a >> paint ball at their back windshield.  Or a wad of chewing gum into their >> open window as they pass you.  Or onto their window as they hurl past >> you.  They might hit someone else and get into an accident even without >> that.  Just realize they are stupid immature and will probably wrap >> their car around a tree eventually and drive carefully try not to play >> their game.  They want to deliberately make you mad are you going to let >> them make you angry?  Are you going to let them have control over your >> moods?  You are a grown man so why do you let stupid people make you >> angry?  One day someone is going to kill them or they will do themselves >> in all you have to do is stand by and don’t get mixed up in their death. >>   You see their actions doom them they are foolish you know better.  So >> stay away from them avoid them stay to the right lane drive a >> comfortable speed and let them be fools.  Do not be fools with them.  Do >> not allow their foolish behavior to affect you.  Just listen to your >> music and think of it as private time and all the weird aggressive and >> boneheaded behavior as part of the landscape.  You can navigate them >> without becoming angry or losing your composure since everytime you get >> tense you are less able to cope with the pattern.  Every time you work >> within the pattern established whether you like what the other drivers >> do or not you are better able to cope with the changes.  Also you are >> happier you feel better and you feel less angry. >> Imagine the other drivers as an obsticle course designed to make your >> drive to work memorable and interesting like it is an adventure rather >> than a curse.  It’s probably the most exciting part of your day driving >> to work.  You cannot change the other driver’s stupid behavior by >> anything you do honking your horn shouting you just make yourself >> unhappy.  So figure it is an adventure and try to live with the crazy >> things your fellow drivers do rather than think you can change them.  To >> change your life you can change what you do and how you do it or you can >> change your perception of your life which is the most powerful thing you >> can use to make your life more bearable.  In grid lock you can listen to >> audio books, think about the people you love think about books teachers, >> whatever you don’t have to sit there taping your finger on the wheel you >> have to keep your car stationary but your mind can be active and you can >> put your body on auto to deal with other drivers and their antics. >> I would imagine they are trying to provoke you into hitting them to slow >> you down even further it’s a contest of wills are you willing to let >> them make you feel anything you don’t want to feel?  Your emotions are >> your own and you should let a perfect stranger make you feel one ounce >> of anger, guilt or sadness.  You cannot control anything anyone does so >> why let them control you.  You don’t care about these people at all >> other than what they do effects you.  So minimize their effect on you. >> Another thing is to refuse to get angry because there is nothing you can >> do to them much.  Other than to seize the wheel in your inside hand if >> someone blocks you in your lane and slide your outside hand down the >> wheel as if you might try to jump in their lane with them in it. It will >> terrify them adopt a crazy grin like you just got out of the psychic >> ward are on heavy medication and you might just pull out a gun and blow >> them away for no reason at all. >> Tail gators you turn on your highbeams if you are running your head >> lights briefly so it looks like you are tapping your brakes when you >> aren’t or they may swerve to miss you and hit the other aggressive >> driver riding you back bumper stopping them both. Allowing you to change >> lanes.  Or you can give up the fight drop your speed 10 mph let all of >> them pass you and hop in the other lane before a slower car

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>From the moment he sat down, I wanted to kick the bitch in the >head.

  I think of more creative ways of humiliation. Perhaps shaving her head would be more satisfying? It’s slower and drags out the degradation longer…

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:50:21 GMT, "Maxxie Moore" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<maxxiem…@yahoo.com> wrote: >Well, I don’t know who started this thread or why, but now I’m going to >chime in.  First, someone said that most beer is made from potatoes.  I love >the thought. It’s a hoot.  But it ain’t right.  It’s vodka that is made from >potatoes.  Beer is made from barley and hops. Truthfully, I have no more >idea of what a hop is than I had of what a bullox was, but look at the label >on a can of beer.  It always says hops. I assume that that is plural, that a >beer contains more than one hop, that it contains many hops. >Re:  being pissed off while you’re driving.  It’s called road rage.  They >shoot people in California for it.  Or rather, people in California who get >it shoot people who cause it.  Occasionally, I want to shoot someone.  I had >a case of movie-seat rage the other night.  That’s right.  Movie-seat rage. >Ever heard of it?  I got a prime, center seat in a theater, and two minutes >before the movie started some woman dragged her husband in and sat him down >in front of me so that I had to look over her husband’s head for the rest of >the movie.  From the moment he sat down, I wanted to kick the bitch in the >head. >That wouldn’t have been so bad, but I had just left a theater with stadium >seating and superb surround sound and had gone immediately to this >old-fashioned movie house with the seats all on a slightly sloping floor. >(It was Halloween, and I had no more intention of bouncing from my chair to >the door all evening to dole out candy to diminutive goblins than I had of >sitting in a pool of refrigerated liverwerst.)   I came very, very close to >getting up and moving to the seat directly in front of that bitch, but I >didn’t.  I don’t know why I didn’t, but I didn’t.  And I didn’t respect >myself in the morning for not doing it.  But it would have been better than >kicking her in the head, right?  But then, it doesn’t matter becasue I >didn’t kick her in the head.  I only thought about it, at which time I >realized I was off my f*king rocker.  I just had a case of movie-seat rage, >so I sat impassively in my seat and didn’t move. >I love the anonymity of posting to a forum like this.  Maxxie Moore is no >more my name–and apparently no more indicative of my gender–than Stevie >Nicks is. >So you get pissed off at drivers who cut you off?  That’s normal.  Don’t >sweat it, and don’t move to town. >If you’re past 30, it’s getting to be too problematic to move anyway.  Your >possessions no longer fit into the trunk of a car.  They might even have >gotten to be quite nice, and you don’t want the finish ruinied by scratches >and scrapes or the upholstery plucked by careless pricks. >"Katz Heitmann" <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:2lhob.11837$X22.4487@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… >> yitwail wrote: >> > Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message ><news:fJnlb.12204$Uz6.8411@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>… >> >>yitwail wrote: >> >>>John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message ><news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… >> >>>>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >> >>>>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes >> >>>>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. >> >>>>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) >> >>>my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & >> >>>taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting >> >>>more sleep & exercise. >> >>I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone >> >>you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I >> >>guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the >> >>person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a >> >>ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you >> >>are laughing at or might hurt you. >> > good one. but can’t punch a bag & drive–what passes for driving >> > really–on a gridlocked freeway. :( i can only take so much of people >> > speeding up as soon as they see my lane change signal or getting in >> > front of me without signalling and making me hit the brakes until i >> > yell. i think the root problem isn’t expressing anger, it’s feeling >> > anger; but if you’re angry already, might as well vent it in a >> > harmless way. >> Have you thought of moving out of the city or closer to the places you >> have to go so you can walk or take the bus.  Let someone else drive or >> walk.  So you don’t have to drive on the crowded freeway all the time. >> Or you could throw an empty bottle at their back windshield when they do >> that.  Or a wet bag of flower.  I was thinking a paint ball gun fire a >> paint ball at their back windshield.  Or a wad of chewing gum into their >> open window as they pass you.  Or onto their window as they hurl past >> you.  They might hit someone else and get into an accident even without >> that.  Just realize they are stupid immature and will probably wrap >> their car around a tree eventually and drive carefully try not to play >> their game.  They want to deliberately make you mad are you going to let >> them make you angry?  Are you going to let them have control over your >> moods?  You are a grown man so why do you let stupid people make you >> angry?  One day someone is going to kill them or they will do themselves >> in all you have to do is stand by and don’t get mixed up in their death. >>   You see their actions doom them they are foolish you know better.  So >> stay away from them avoid them stay to the right lane drive a >> comfortable speed and let them be fools.  Do not be fools with them.  Do >> not allow their foolish behavior to affect you.  Just listen to your >> music and think of it as private time and all the weird aggressive and >> boneheaded behavior as part of the landscape.  You can navigate them >> without becoming angry or losing your composure since everytime you get >> tense you are less able to cope with the pattern.  Every time you work >> within the pattern established whether you like what the other drivers >> do or not you are better able to cope with the changes.  Also you are >> happier you feel better and you feel less angry. >> Imagine the other drivers as an obsticle course designed to make your >> drive to work memorable and interesting like it is an adventure rather >> than a curse.  It’s probably the most exciting part of your day driving >> to work.  You cannot change the other driver’s stupid behavior by >> anything you do honking your horn shouting you just make yourself >> unhappy.  So figure it is an adventure and try to live with the crazy >> things your fellow drivers do rather than think you can change them.  To >> change your life you can change what you do and how you do it or you can >> change your perception of your life which is the most powerful thing you >> can use to make your life more bearable.  In grid lock you can listen to >> audio books, think about the people you love think about books teachers, >> whatever you don’t have to sit there taping your finger on the wheel you >> have to keep your car stationary but your mind can be active and you can >> put your body on auto to deal with other drivers and their antics. >> I would imagine they are trying to provoke you into hitting them to slow >> you down even further it’s a contest of wills are you willing to let >> them make you feel anything you don’t want to feel?  Your emotions are >> your own and you should let a perfect stranger make you feel one ounce >> of anger, guilt or sadness.  You cannot control anything anyone does so >> why let them control you.  You don’t care about these people at all >> other than what they do effects you.  So minimize their effect on you. >> Another thing is to refuse to get angry because there is nothing you can >> do to them much.  Other than to seize the wheel in your inside hand if >> someone blocks you in your lane and slide your outside hand down the >> wheel as if you might try to jump in their lane with them in it. It will >> terrify them adopt a crazy grin like you just got out of the psychic >> ward are on heavy medication and you might just pull out a gun and blow >> them away for no reason at all. >> Tail gators you turn on your highbeams if you are running your head >> lights briefly so it looks like you are tapping your brakes when you >> aren’t or they may swerve to miss you and hit the other aggressive >> driver riding you back bumper stopping them both. Allowing you to change >> lanes.  Or you can give up the fight drop your speed 10 mph let all of >> them pass you and hop in the other lane before a slower car

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whew! thanks for a lengthy reply. i’m headed to the airport right now and won’t be back in town for 4 days, so i’ll respond when i get back. john k

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Well, I don’t know who started this thread or why, but now I’m going to chime in.  First, someone said that most beer is made from potatoes.  I love the thought. It’s a hoot.  But it ain’t right.  It’s vodka that is made from potatoes.  Beer is made from barley and hops. Truthfully, I have no more idea of what a hop is than I had of what a bullox was, but look at the label on a can of beer.  It always says hops. I assume that that is plural, that a beer contains more than one hop, that it contains many hops. Re:  being pissed off while you’re driving.  It’s called road rage.  They shoot people in California for it.  Or rather, people in California who get it shoot people who cause it.  Occasionally, I want to shoot someone.  I had a case of movie-seat rage the other night.  That’s right.  Movie-seat rage. Ever heard of it?  I got a prime, center seat in a theater, and two minutes before the movie started some woman dragged her husband in and sat him down in front of me so that I had to look over her husband’s head for the rest of the movie.  From the moment he sat down, I wanted to kick the bitch in the head. That wouldn’t have been so bad, but I had just left a theater with stadium seating and superb surround sound and had gone immediately to this old-fashioned movie house with the seats all on a slightly sloping floor. (It was Halloween, and I had no more intention of bouncing from my chair to the door all evening to dole out candy to diminutive goblins than I had of sitting in a pool of refrigerated liverwerst.)   I came very, very close to getting up and moving to the seat directly in front of that bitch, but I didn’t.  I don’t know why I didn’t, but I didn’t.  And I didn’t respect myself in the morning for not doing it.  But it would have been better than kicking her in the head, right?  But then, it doesn’t matter becasue I didn’t kick her in the head.  I only thought about it, at which time I realized I was off my f*king rocker.  I just had a case of movie-seat rage, so I sat impassively in my seat and didn’t move. I love the anonymity of posting to a forum like this.  Maxxie Moore is no more my name–and apparently no more indicative of my gender–than Stevie Nicks is. So you get pissed off at drivers who cut you off?  That’s normal.  Don’t sweat it, and don’t move to town. If you’re past 30, it’s getting to be too problematic to move anyway.  Your possessions no longer fit into the trunk of a car.  They might even have gotten to be quite nice, and you don’t want the finish ruinied by scratches and scrapes or the upholstery plucked by careless pricks. "Katz Heitmann" <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:2lhob.11837$X22.4487@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… > yitwail wrote: > > Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

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<news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>>>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: > >>>>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes > >>>>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. > >>>>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) > >>>my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & > >>>taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting > >>>more sleep & exercise. > >>I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone > >>you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I > >>guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the > >>person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a > >>ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you > >>are laughing at or might hurt you. > > good one. but can’t punch a bag & drive–what passes for driving > > really–on a gridlocked freeway. :( i can only take so much of people > > speeding up as soon as they see my lane change signal or getting in > > front of me without signalling and making me hit the brakes until i > > yell. i think the root problem isn’t expressing anger, it’s feeling > > anger; but if you’re angry already, might as well vent it in a > > harmless way. > Have you thought of moving out of the city or closer to the places you > have to go so you can walk or take the bus.  Let someone else drive or > walk.  So you don’t have to drive on the crowded freeway all the time. > Or you could throw an empty bottle at their back windshield when they do > that.  Or a wet bag of flower.  I was thinking a paint ball gun fire a > paint ball at their back windshield.  Or a wad of chewing gum into their > open window as they pass you.  Or onto their window as they hurl past > you.  They might hit someone else and get into an accident even without > that.  Just realize they are stupid immature and will probably wrap > their car around a tree eventually and drive carefully try not to play > their game.  They want to deliberately make you mad are you going to let > them make you angry?  Are you going to let them have control over your > moods?  You are a grown man so why do you let stupid people make you > angry?  One day someone is going to kill them or they will do themselves > in all you have to do is stand by and don’t get mixed up in their death. >   You see their actions doom them they are foolish you know better.  So > stay away from them avoid them stay to the right lane drive a > comfortable speed and let them be fools.  Do not be fools with them.  Do > not allow their foolish behavior to affect you.  Just listen to your > music and think of it as private time and all the weird aggressive and > boneheaded behavior as part of the landscape.  You can navigate them > without becoming angry or losing your composure since everytime you get > tense you are less able to cope with the pattern.  Every time you work > within the pattern established whether you like what the other drivers > do or not you are better able to cope with the changes.  Also you are > happier you feel better and you feel less angry. > Imagine the other drivers as an obsticle course designed to make your > drive to work memorable and interesting like it is an adventure rather > than a curse.  It’s probably the most exciting part of your day driving > to work.  You cannot change the other driver’s stupid behavior by > anything you do honking your horn shouting you just make yourself > unhappy.  So figure it is an adventure and try to live with the crazy > things your fellow drivers do rather than think you can change them.  To > change your life you can change what you do and how you do it or you can > change your perception of your life which is the most powerful thing you > can use to make your life more bearable.  In grid lock you can listen to > audio books, think about the people you love think about books teachers, > whatever you don’t have to sit there taping your finger on the wheel you > have to keep your car stationary but your mind can be active and you can > put your body on auto to deal with other drivers and their antics. > I would imagine they are trying to provoke you into hitting them to slow > you down even further it’s a contest of wills are you willing to let > them make you feel anything you don’t want to feel?  Your emotions are > your own and you should let a perfect stranger make you feel one ounce > of anger, guilt or sadness.  You cannot control anything anyone does so > why let them control you.  You don’t care about these people at all > other than what they do effects you.  So minimize their effect on you. > Another thing is to refuse to get angry because there is nothing you can > do to them much.  Other than to seize the wheel in your inside hand if > someone blocks you in your lane and slide your outside hand down the > wheel as if you might try to jump in their lane with them in it. It will > terrify them adopt a crazy grin like you just got out of the psychic > ward are on heavy medication and you might just pull out a gun and blow > them away for no reason at all. > Tail gators you turn on your highbeams if you are running your head > lights briefly so it looks like you are tapping your brakes when you > aren’t or they may swerve to miss you and hit the other aggressive > driver riding you back bumper stopping them both. Allowing you to change > lanes.  Or you can give up the fight drop your speed 10 mph let all of > them pass you and hop in the other lane before a slower car

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -yitwail wrote: > Katz Heitmann <katz…@mindspring.com> wrote in message <news:fJnlb.12204$Uz6.8411@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>… >>yitwail wrote: >>>John Jay <jjayx1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:t424ovcghc8mpujlard2jnditdjarto6dr@4ax.com>… >>>>On 4 Oct 2003 22:21:09 -0700, catim…@yahoo.com (yitwail) wrote: >>>>I do know that alcoholic beer can be considered food (most beer comes >>>>from potatos). I don’t know how they make non alcoholic beer. >>>>Nutritionally speaking though, has it helped? :-) >>>my health is decent, so it hasn’t hurt, but it’s like drinking wine & >>>taking aspirin to prevent heart disease: i’d be better off getting >>>more sleep & exercise. >>I’d say get a punching bag you hit it imagine you are hitting someone >>you are mad at.  They say that doesn’t work well but it works for me.  I >>guess because I have post traumatic.  Try it.   Or try to imagine the >>person you are angry with naked purple with pink spots or that them in a >>ridiculous position don’t laugh or they might demand to know what you >>are laughing at or might hurt you. > good one. but can’t punch a bag & drive–what passes for driving > really–on a gridlocked freeway. :( i can only take so much of people > speeding up as soon as they see my lane change signal or getting in > front of me without signalling and making me hit the brakes until i > yell. i think the root problem isn’t expressing anger, it’s feeling > anger; but if you’re angry already, might as well vent it in a > harmless way.

Have you thought of moving out of the city or closer to the places you have to go so you can walk or take the bus.  Let someone else drive or walk.  So you don’t have to drive on the crowded freeway all the time. Or you could throw an empty bottle at their back windshield when they do that.  Or a wet bag of flower.  I was thinking a paint ball gun fire a paint ball at their back windshield.  Or a wad of chewing gum into their open window as they pass you.  Or onto their window as they hurl past you.  They might hit someone else and get into an accident even without that.  Just realize they are stupid immature and will probably wrap their car around a tree eventually and drive carefully try not to play their game.  They want to deliberately make you mad are you going to let them make you angry?  Are you going to let them have control over your moods?  You are a grown man so why do you let stupid people make you angry?  One day someone is going to kill them or they will do themselves in all you have to do is stand by and don’t get mixed up in their death.   You see their actions doom them they are foolish you know better.  So stay away from them avoid them stay to the right lane drive a comfortable speed and let them be fools.  Do not be fools with them.  Do not allow their foolish behavior to affect you.  Just listen to your music and think of it as private time and all the weird aggressive and boneheaded behavior as part of the landscape.  You can navigate them without becoming angry or losing your composure since everytime you get tense you are less able to cope with the pattern.  Every time you work within the pattern established whether you like what the other drivers do or not you are better able to cope with the changes.  Also you are happier you feel better and you feel less angry. Imagine the other drivers as an obsticle course designed to make your drive to work memorable and interesting like it is an adventure rather than a curse.  It’s probably the most exciting part of your day driving to work.  You cannot change the other driver’s stupid behavior by anything you do honking your horn shouting you just make yourself unhappy.  So figure it is an adventure and try to live with the crazy things your fellow drivers do rather than think you can change them.  To change your life you can change what you do and how you do it or you can change your perception of your life which is the most powerful thing you can use to make your life more bearable.  In grid lock you can listen to audio books, think about the people you love think about books teachers, whatever you don’t have to sit there taping your finger on the wheel you have to keep your car stationary but your mind can be active and you can put your body on auto to deal with other drivers and their antics. I would imagine they are trying to provoke you into hitting them to slow you down even further it’s a contest of wills are you willing to let them make you feel anything you don’t want to feel?  Your emotions are your own and you should let a perfect stranger make you feel one ounce of anger, guilt or sadness.  You cannot control anything anyone does so why let them control you.  You don’t care about these people at all other than what they do effects you.  So minimize their effect on you. Another thing is to refuse to get angry because there is nothing you can do to them much.  Other than to seize the wheel in your inside hand if someone blocks you in your lane and slide your outside hand down the wheel as if you might try to jump in their lane with them in it. It will terrify them adopt a crazy grin like you just got out of the psychic ward are on heavy medication and you might just pull out a gun and blow them away for no reason at all. Tail gators you turn on your highbeams if you are running your head lights briefly so it looks like you are tapping your brakes when you aren’t or they may swerve to miss you and hit the other aggressive driver riding you back bumper stopping them both. Allowing you to change lanes.  Or you can give up the fight drop your speed 10 mph let all of them pass you and hop in the other lane before a slower car

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