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he sounds almost scary "apb" <ms4r…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:7660-389D7DBD-9@storefull-136.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pete, you have no idea what you are talking about… I’m sorry but you > sound quite uninitiated…. > "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" Thomas Jefferson.
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pete, you have no idea what you are talking about… I’m sorry but you sound quite uninitiated…. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" Thomas Jefferson.
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Hi Jason! All I can say is this, things that happen to you are caused by stuff. All those things around you are hitting you making you "you" react. Some silly drug made by the fda is not going to amke a lot of difference. What you feel is what you are feeling so just run with it. You can run when you are not old. There is no hidden message in this post, no clauses, no traps. Regards, Peter * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Thanks Tim, As I said I said I wasn’t sure what Lithium was used for. Thanks for the information, Frank. Tim Gatty <t.j.ga…@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:86cbvu$guj$2@uranium.btinternet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Frank" <frank…@netcom.ca> wrote in message > news:dYai4.207842$5r2.564730@tor-nn1.netcom.ca… > > I thought Lithium is an older anti-psychotic medication? Maybe I am wrong > > here. > > Frank. > > walt <sart…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > news:3888BEE8.3B27B51D@bellsouth.net… > > > I’m afraid that psychiatric diagnosis is not always very reliable. Some > > > people fit reasonably well into the standard pidgeon holes that have > been > > > invented, but others do not. When that happens, sometimes patients ask > > > several shrinks & get several different DXes back. > > > You could go to www.mentalhealth.com & do a computerized self-diagnosis > if > > > you’re curious. That will be even less reliable than an interview with a > > > qualified shrink, of course, but it might give you some idea of what > range > > > of diagnoses is possible. > > > My understanding is that it is very common for people whose mood swings > > into > > > mania to have delusions & hallucinations that closely resemble those of > > > schizophrenics. Even depressives sometimes have "psychotic depression", > > with > > > sz-like symptoms. > > > Does your mood sometimes swing into a normal range? During those times > > when > > > your mood seems normal, do you then still have those feelings that > someone > > > is poisoning you or whatever? > > > My understanding is that if a shrink believes that psychotic symptoms > are > > > being caused by some mood disturbance, then he will not usually diagnose > > sz. > > > The core treatment for sz is usually an antipsychotic drug. I don’t > > > recognize any of the drugs you mentioned as being an antipsychotic. They > > > seem to be antidepressants & mood stabilizers. > > > Jason wrote: > > > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who > has > > > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I > want > > > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > > > thinking about it. > > > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried > constantly, > > > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if > I > > > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get > the > > > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had > some > > > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > > > treatment. > > > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like > crap > > > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s > not > > > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I > am > > > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one > eye > > > > open. > > > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the > hospital > > > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He > is > > > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do > that > > > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled > by > > > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making > weird > > > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to > have > > > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > > > Jason > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > Before you buy. > > Lithium is used to treat people with an affective disorder or one that has > an affective component to it like bipolar disorder or schizoaffective. It ’s > primary function is to curb the excessive mood swings that occur in these > illnesses and to stabilise the moods of the individual. > Lithium is no way no how an anti psychotic medication and is about as useful > as jelly beans(and not very high quality jelly beans at that) at treating > the symptoms of schizophrenia. > Lithium can be useful in treating the affective component of schizoaffective > disorder but the psychosis element needs the use of anti psychotics. > More and more people are placing schizoaffective under the umberella of > bipolar disorders rather than a subset of schizophrenia. > The difference between bipolar disorder with psychosis and schizoaffective > rest mainly on the issue of when hallucinations/delusions occur and can be > seen to be a matter of medical semantics as much as anything else. > I would be vary wary of any psychiatrist who insisted on prescribing > lithium to his schizophrenic patients and would hope to God that that person > was banned from practising sooner rather than later. > Tim
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"Richard F. Barham" <soggytrous…@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:XnCi4.633$oX4.88562@news.flash.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think you’re afraid of death. That is, so long as you’re afraid of death, > fear has got a hold on you. The power of sin is death. But Jesus Christ > overcame death when He rose up from the dead. Seek ye the Kingdom of God. > Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:86a0sn$6k6$1@nnrp1.deja.com… > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > thinking about it. > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > treatment. > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > > open. > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > Jason > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.
Are you the ’son of David Icke’ by any chance ? I bet you walk around wearing a hair shirt and mumbling odd quotations from the Bible. Still you are probably not the only religious maniac around here. Personally religious maniacs bring me out in a rash!
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In article <ib3i4.207413$5r2.564…@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Frank" <frank…@netcom.ca> wrote: > I’m no psychiatrist but it definitely sounds like you have some symptoms of > schizophrenia (sz) with depression and mania mixed in. If you are not happy
I’ve never heard of sz appearing before the teens. And he’s not hearing vioces. I think it’s all reactions to stress and anxiety associated with the BPD and or BP. > with the diagnosis you have I would recommend a second opinion. You used > the word pop in your message so I’m assuming you’re Canadian (they call it > soda in the US as far as I know). In Canada visits to a psychiatrist are > covered by medical coverage so you’ve nothing to lose with a second opinion. > I guess you could be from the UK. I’m not sure what they call pop over > there. > One thing I found very interesting and helpful myself was to get ahold of a > copy of the DSM-4. This is the diagnostic manual used by psychiatrists and
EXCELLENT advice. Almost all the sites on particular disorders on the net have the DSM-4 description. And I recommend studying it by process of elimination, and/or which dx has the most of your symptoms. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> psychologists in diagnosing people. It lists all of the symptoms associated > with each illness (sz, schizo-affective disorder, bipolar disorder, etc.) > and tells you how many of the symptoms you have to have before you are > considered to have that particular illness. I’m lucky because my wife is a > psychologist and she owns a copy of this book. You may be able to find one > at a library (especially a university library) and have a read through it > for yourself. No one would be able to better match up your symptoms than > you. I found it an interesting read and also found it helpful in deciding > that I was sz when my psychiatrist said I was not. > Hope this helps. Welcome to the group. > Frank. > Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:86a0sn$6k6$1@nnrp1.deja.com… > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > thinking about it. > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > treatment. > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > > open. > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > Jason > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.
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In article <86a0sn$6k…@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > thinking about it. > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly,
Jason, having someone close to you can be very traumatic for a child. Your anxiety, depression may have been exacerbated by this. > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the
Without further information I would not try to dx this. First, it could be a stress reaction at home or to the death of your Grandmother. Before you attribute it to a particular dx, I would question the general dynamics of your household. > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off
You describe a lot of generalized anxiety symptoms. > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > treatment. > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings,
Borderline pd starts this early. Having anxiety disorder with it is not uncommon. Does "severe" include true mania? Or, is it just the see-saw of severe dysphoria which borderline pd entails? There is a distinct difference. The test is in the high, is it anything like mania as defined in bipolor DSM-4. > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a
Mania has very specific components. I recommend you study closely its properties in the bipolar dx in the DSM-4. > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I
This sounds like a bipolar reaction. > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for
Lithium is most commonly used in bipolar; it particularly helps with mania. Did it help? > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not
Try Buspar. It should help with your anxiety. > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things
Now, it sounds like classis borderine pd. > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am
Anxiety and bpd have depersonalization associated with them. Anxiety in particular. > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > open.
Anxiety. And, borderline pd paranoia does look like the positive symptoms of sz. Do you "startle" easily? That is a symtpom of anxiety disorder. > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be
Now this seems like a classis case of piss-poor doctoring. ONE DAY? Even if you were IN mania, if it was a reaction to meds then it was not true mania as in bipolar. > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is
Your thoughts are very organized. I would check the symptoms very, very closely in the DSM-4. My knowledge is limited, but I do not think you have sz. > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that
Unstable relationships is a classic sign of borderline pd. > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was
Anxiety disorder and borderline pd. > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have
Well, personally, things we do around our parents can be bizarre. Reactions to stress. I’m not discounting what you do, I’m just trying to put it in context and look at the bigger picture. > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s
"Loss of interest" is a classic depression symptom. Still a strong symptom of borderline, and a reaction to anxiety. > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > Jason > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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Lithium is a salt, and the oldest and most frequent treatment for bipolar disorder; it particularly is effective with the "mania" side of bipolar. In article <dYai4.207842$5r2.564…@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Frank" <frank…@netcom.ca> wrote: > I thought Lithium is an older anti-psychotic medication? Maybe I am wrong > here. > Frank.
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In article <3888BEE8.3B27B…@bellsouth.net>, walt <sart…@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I’m afraid that psychiatric diagnosis is not always very reliable. Some
Unfortunately, that seems to be very true. > people fit reasonably well into the standard pidgeon holes that have been > invented, but others do not. When that happens, sometimes patients ask > several shrinks & get several different DXes back. > You could go to www.mentalhealth.com & do a computerized self-diagnosis if > you’re curious. That will be even less reliable than an interview with a > qualified shrink, of course, but it might give you some idea of what range > of diagnoses is possible.
Good advice. And study the DSM-4 dx’s. When I finally found the correct dx on my own after 30 years I was able to find a doc that could and is giving better treatment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My understanding is that it is very common for people whose mood swings into > mania to have delusions & hallucinations that closely resemble those of > schizophrenics. Even depressives sometimes have "psychotic depression", with > sz-like symptoms. > Does your mood sometimes swing into a normal range? During those times when > your mood seems normal, do you then still have those feelings that someone > is poisoning you or whatever? > My understanding is that if a shrink believes that psychotic symptoms are > being caused by some mood disturbance, then he will not usually diagnose sz. > The core treatment for sz is usually an antipsychotic drug. I don’t > recognize any of the drugs you mentioned as being an antipsychotic. They > seem to be antidepressants & mood stabilizers.
Good observations. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jason wrote: > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > thinking about it. > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > treatment. > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > > open. > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > Jason > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.
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Hi. First off, thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it. Frank, that was a good suggestion on asking for a second opinion. I’m going to look into doing that. Second, the doctors tend to give you the meds that don’t have many side effects. The Paxil isn’t working for me any better than the Zoloft was. I do get to normal moods where I feel like I’m still having those thoughts. Of course, that is also a symptom of borderline personality disorder. I’ve had sz like symptoms for a while now. I remember reading from a book in class and this voice would come over me saying "don’t mess up..haha"..trying to mess me up. Of course, it would have been me playing with myself, but I don’t know… This was oh…8th grade? Thanks again.. In article <86bhc1$t8…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, "Octa" <sf…@att.netNOSPAM> wrote: > So why did you have to quit Zoloft? Its not much different than Prozac or > Paxil. > Octa-now on Zyprexa (and I’m not even schizophrenic)
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"Frank" <frank…@netcom.ca> wrote in message
news:dYai4.207842$5r2.564730@tor-nn1.netcom.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I thought Lithium is an older anti-psychotic medication? Maybe I am wrong > here. > Frank. > walt <sart…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:3888BEE8.3B27B51D@bellsouth.net… > > I’m afraid that psychiatric diagnosis is not always very reliable. Some > > people fit reasonably well into the standard pidgeon holes that have been > > invented, but others do not. When that happens, sometimes patients ask > > several shrinks & get several different DXes back. > > You could go to www.mentalhealth.com & do a computerized self-diagnosis if > > you’re curious. That will be even less reliable than an interview with a > > qualified shrink, of course, but it might give you some idea of what range > > of diagnoses is possible. > > My understanding is that it is very common for people whose mood swings > into > > mania to have delusions & hallucinations that closely resemble those of > > schizophrenics. Even depressives sometimes have "psychotic depression", > with > > sz-like symptoms. > > Does your mood sometimes swing into a normal range? During those times > when > > your mood seems normal, do you then still have those feelings that someone > > is poisoning you or whatever? > > My understanding is that if a shrink believes that psychotic symptoms are > > being caused by some mood disturbance, then he will not usually diagnose > sz. > > The core treatment for sz is usually an antipsychotic drug. I don’t > > recognize any of the drugs you mentioned as being an antipsychotic. They > > seem to be antidepressants & mood stabilizers. > > Jason wrote: > > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > > thinking about it. > > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > > treatment. > > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > > > open. > > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > > Jason > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > Lithium is used to treat people with an affective disorder or one that has
an affective component to it like bipolar disorder or schizoaffective. It ’s primary function is to curb the excessive mood swings that occur in these illnesses and to stabilise the moods of the individual. Lithium is no way no how an anti psychotic medication and is about as useful as jelly beans(and not very high quality jelly beans at that) at treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. Lithium can be useful in treating the affective component of schizoaffective disorder but the psychosis element needs the use of anti psychotics. More and more people are placing schizoaffective under the umberella of bipolar disorders rather than a subset of schizophrenia. The difference between bipolar disorder with psychosis and schizoaffective rest mainly on the issue of when hallucinations/delusions occur and can be seen to be a matter of medical semantics as much as anything else. I would be vary wary of any psychiatrist who insisted on prescribing lithium to his schizophrenic patients and would hope to God that that person was banned from practising sooner rather than later. Tim
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I thought Lithium is an older anti-psychotic medication? Maybe I am wrong here. Frank. walt <sart…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3888BEE8.3B27B51D@bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m afraid that psychiatric diagnosis is not always very reliable. Some > people fit reasonably well into the standard pidgeon holes that have been > invented, but others do not. When that happens, sometimes patients ask > several shrinks & get several different DXes back. > You could go to www.mentalhealth.com & do a computerized self-diagnosis if > you’re curious. That will be even less reliable than an interview with a > qualified shrink, of course, but it might give you some idea of what range > of diagnoses is possible. > My understanding is that it is very common for people whose mood swings into > mania to have delusions & hallucinations that closely resemble those of > schizophrenics. Even depressives sometimes have "psychotic depression", with > sz-like symptoms. > Does your mood sometimes swing into a normal range? During those times when > your mood seems normal, do you then still have those feelings that someone > is poisoning you or whatever? > My understanding is that if a shrink believes that psychotic symptoms are > being caused by some mood disturbance, then he will not usually diagnose sz. > The core treatment for sz is usually an antipsychotic drug. I don’t > recognize any of the drugs you mentioned as being an antipsychotic. They > seem to be antidepressants & mood stabilizers. > Jason wrote: > > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > > thinking about it. > > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > > treatment. > > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > > open. > > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > > Jason > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.
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I’m no psychiatrist but it definitely sounds like you have some symptoms of schizophrenia (sz) with depression and mania mixed in. If you are not happy with the diagnosis you have I would recommend a second opinion. You used the word pop in your message so I’m assuming you’re Canadian (they call it soda in the US as far as I know). In Canada visits to a psychiatrist are covered by medical coverage so you’ve nothing to lose with a second opinion. I guess you could be from the UK. I’m not sure what they call pop over there. One thing I found very interesting and helpful myself was to get ahold of a copy of the DSM-4. This is the diagnostic manual used by psychiatrists and psychologists in diagnosing people. It lists all of the symptoms associated with each illness (sz, schizo-affective disorder, bipolar disorder, etc.) and tells you how many of the symptoms you have to have before you are considered to have that particular illness. I’m lucky because my wife is a psychologist and she owns a copy of this book. You may be able to find one at a library (especially a university library) and have a read through it for yourself. No one would be able to better match up your symptoms than you. I found it an interesting read and also found it helpful in deciding that I was sz when my psychiatrist said I was not. Hope this helps. Welcome to the group. Frank. Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:86a0sn$6k6$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > thinking about it. > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > treatment. > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > open. > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > Jason > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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So why did you have to quit Zoloft? Its not much different than Prozac or Paxil. Octa-now on Zyprexa (and I’m not even schizophrenic) Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:86a0sn$6k6$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > thinking about it. > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > treatment. > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > open. > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > Jason > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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I’m afraid that psychiatric diagnosis is not always very reliable. Some people fit reasonably well into the standard pidgeon holes that have been invented, but others do not. When that happens, sometimes patients ask several shrinks & get several different DXes back. You could go to www.mentalhealth.com & do a computerized self-diagnosis if you’re curious. That will be even less reliable than an interview with a qualified shrink, of course, but it might give you some idea of what range of diagnoses is possible. My understanding is that it is very common for people whose mood swings into mania to have delusions & hallucinations that closely resemble those of schizophrenics. Even depressives sometimes have "psychotic depression", with sz-like symptoms. Does your mood sometimes swing into a normal range? During those times when your mood seems normal, do you then still have those feelings that someone is poisoning you or whatever? My understanding is that if a shrink believes that psychotic symptoms are being caused by some mood disturbance, then he will not usually diagnose sz. The core treatment for sz is usually an antipsychotic drug. I don’t recognize any of the drugs you mentioned as being an antipsychotic. They seem to be antidepressants & mood stabilizers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jason wrote: > Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has > been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not > really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want > to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none > of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your > opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts > thinking about it. > Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a > suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th > grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, > and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. > Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I > was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to > fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I > remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d > look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the > ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some > good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) > person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off > Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a > mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good > treatment. > During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap > all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th > grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally > put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, > including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a > treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at > that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I > landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was > diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for > social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not > working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of > emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick > mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things > (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am > not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been > like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye > open. > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital > who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be > borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in > hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me > wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is > on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get > better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > Jason > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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In article <86a0sn$6k…@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jason <jaso…@hotmail.com> wrote: > A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and > even bipolar.
The things I do that > make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by > other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was > thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird > noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have > lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s > opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. > Jason
– There are endless names for behavior patterns, schizophrenia being one of those names that is never spacific about anything and the more people try to pigeonhole it, the more confusing it gets and only end up going in circles and going nowhere. For almost three years I had been analyzed by a number of shrinks and no two of them came up with the same conclusions, one was convinced that I had multiple personalities, another said it was just Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, another said it was SZ, another said it was Compulsive Behavior Disorder, another saying it was ADD and Disassociative whatever, still another saying it was Manic Depression and another in charge of the Los Angeles Veteran Psychological Dept. said there was nothing wrong at all and to go home, so I said pisseth upon them all and quietly flipped out and ended up in a psycho ward strapped to a table where still another shrink said I was a Paranoid Schizophrenic. Take your pick. All I have is my life to share with people which is too much to post, but will find my bio in the signiture, can skip over the war and photos from Vietnam, two primary things being the PTSD article and the Twilight Zone article and maybe the Vietnam Diary which goes from Nam to my first encounter with insanity at the hospital and how things progressed. It is not far from the truth that people try to control you which I think is human nature at its worst, but did not begin to find my own way until I started over without all these experts telling me how it is and today I do not have SZ or none of those other things, all one day at a time and SZ is something that can return under stress etc., but i try to be transparent and just spilling my guts about the whole thing, the desire to be of some help is the only reason for the website, but it would be a waste of time for me to attempt to play the role while not even in the script, so I just lay my whole life out there and maybe folks can glean what is of use to them if they identify with certain things and what I did about it. Crazy Lou http://www.grizzadam.com/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Hi. I am new to this discussion board. I’m a 17 year old male who has been suffering from some sort of depression since age 9. I have not really been diagnosed thorougly, but I am on Paxil and Lithium. I want to know a diagnosis so I know what is wrong with me. I know that none of you are doctors (maybe some are), but I would like to hear your opinion on what the heck is wrong with me! I am driving myself nuts thinking about it. Depression for me started at age 9 after my Grandma died. I write a suicidal note in my diary when I was 7. When I was 9, I was in 4th grade. I couldn’t function in a school atmosphere, worried constantly, and was very paranoid. I was afraid someone was going to poison me. Every time I would smell something weird (like marker), I would ask if I was going to die of poison. I would not drink pop or whatever due to fear of poison. I would always be afraid of being kidnapped. I remember playing baseball with myself, and when I’d hit the ball I’d look around to make sure I would not be kidnapped, then run and get the ball. I was put on Zoloft, and it helped me for a few years. I had some good years of my life on Zoloft. I’ve always been a nervous (hyper?) person. I developed what was called social phobia, and had to go off Zoloft because I couldn’t interact with people. I feared making a mistake. Over the next several years, I battled trying to find a good treatment. During this time, I was alone and wanted to be alone. I felt like crap all the time. I couldn’t function in school once again. (This is 9th grade). I tried numerous meds. Most just sedated me. I was finally put on a medication that helped, but I still had severe mood swings, including what I guess was manic. I would run 4,5,even 6 miles on a treadmill sometimes. I had to off Nardil (which was what I was on at that time) and went on Prozac. This made the mood swings worse and I landed myself in the hospital. That was last September. There I was diagnosed as bipolar and put on Lithium. Paxil later got added for social anxiety. I don’t like the treatment I’m on now and feel it’s not working. I am constantly having feelings of abandonment, feeling of emptiness, feeling incomplete with my life, anger, depression, quick mood swings, paranoia, anxiety (worry), etc. Often I see things (briefly) that aren’t there. Kind of like distorted vision. When I am not on paxil, I have a hard time sleeping due to paranoia. I’ve been like this since a very little child. I would always sleep with one eye open. A lot of the symptoms I described borderline personality disorder and even bipolar. I was diagnosed as bipolar by the doctor in the hospital who seen me for one day. Most of the symptoms look like they could be borderline related, and bipolar and borderline sometimes go hand in hand, but there are just some thoughts I have sometimes that makes me wonder about schizophrenia. My dad seems to be a schizophrenic. He is on a lot of medication. I often have thoughts that I will never get better. I have rocky relationships with friends. The things I do that make me wonder about schizophrenia are: Sometimes I feel controlled by other people or things, I’ve thought off and on people knew what I was thinking, I don’t act my age, I have strange behavior, like making weird noises and funny faces around my parents all the time. I seemed to have lost interest in a lot of things. I would like to hear anyone’s opinions!!! I’m sure I forgot some. Jason Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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