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 ANY E-MAILS REGARDING THIS INFORMATION IF IT APPLIES OR YOU CAN HAND IT ON TO PEOPLE WHO MAY GAIN FROM IT PLEASE DO THAT THE WHOLE APPROACH TO PSYCHIATRIC PAIN NEEDS TO BE GIVEN DUE CREDIT AS REAL SUFFERING LIKE ANY OTHER. GLENN. TREAT MENTAL PAIN AS PAIN THAT’S WHAT IT IS G.FLETCHER I have become convinced of something  unpopular with many doctor’s, mainly because they are caught up in their own one dimentional stubborn ideas. After viewing Dr Jonothon Miller’s Madness video collection, it’s only added to my already shattered belief in many psychiatric practices and how little is understood about the whole nature of human psychological suffering. But more upsetting to me personally is the fact that the intense anti-psychiatry movement seems to possibly be it’s own worst enemy by being over rejecting of the whole idea of drugs at all which is fine but to me as a psychiatric survivor I think drug treatments can be helpful but I have my own new theories on this subject and it begs the question, are we being treated with wellness as the real goal or is that just an illusion ? Where and when on earth is there some sort of humane approach that actually works for those in agonising states of depression, chronic anxieties, post traumatic stress disorder etc. Drugs exist that can stop the immediate pain and even if this is limited access they should be used to create some smiles for those who’s inner demons are too deep for psychotherapies or if  existing psychiatric drugs do not hit the mark and create a quality of life because I have met only a small number who feel they have gained anything more than a loss of their liberties and terrible side effects. At the moment many are left to suffer while on any number of unreliable drugs whose aim seems based on trying to tinker with complex brain chemistry far too often instead of actually easing suffering in a medical but direct way with drugs that stop the hurt like morphine on ocassion, this is surely the least some of us deserve. Just as you cannot cure mourning what is the difference with deep seated sufferings which are surely related also to complex morbid interations within the "person" brain and personality. There are no anti-mourning pills because you cannot just cure it with drugs which claim to make people better. I am far from a scientist but I can see using only common sense that psychological/psychiatric pain is to deeply ingrained within the self or personality to be treated by medications as intolerable as neuroleptics for example there must be humane drugs used which lift the spirit and give peace to this true pain. If it is true that psychiatric drugs are masking symptoms then what is wrong with using stronger and more effective drugs that actually take away the severe suffering as well as make the patient feel well, or even a little high since this is after all an area in medicine that deals with often deeply routed complex pain which I believe is not always treatable in terms of all patients becoming totally well again. If the technology is here use it and stop witholding pleasure and wellness from these patients because it seems plain mean spirited and pointless not to mention demeaning. Medicine needs to be humane with people it’s the least we deserve and I know I for one am sick of existing knowing full well what drugs I would like to use and how they could change my whole life for the better because in my situation even feeling well for a few days once a month is better than a constant state of chronic soul destroying agony and also this approach may actually reduce drug abuse situations because I have come to the conclusion that often the person needs the drug they are abusing it makes them feel something that they have lost so in controlled settings or restricted access medical plans why not give these people some peace. This is a simple concept here, for some of us our emotional agonies are a type of physical pain  way up there with what I imagine a seriously physically injured person would experience at times so where is the morphine/methadone etc in limited dosages for those in need of their derserved relief from psychiatric pain. The typical drugs of choice in use still today seem limited by their complicated effects on the brain and the idealogical reasoning behind them is still questionable claiming to make people well and yes for some they do work but what about the rest of us. Psychiatry prescribes so many hit and miss medications and no I’m not anti-drugs at all in fact this personal stance is hardly popular from either end of the scale from medicine to the survivor movement.. The anti-psychiatry movement seems completely out of reality as is psychiatry’s approach and indeed even psychotherapists need to face some realities also because we are not all able to be reached by this method either. The main word for those afflicted with serious levels of depression or anxiety which is my main focus is "stress". The opposite of that is total peacefulness and if we use the arguments given to us from psychiatry itself there is no doubt biology is involved so where are drugs that relieve tension and pain because for most with serious anxiety/depression we often find ourselves on drugs which although sometimes helpful are not actually restoring the life force of true enjoyment which we seem to have lost. I truly believe that psychiatric pain has yet to be given the same treatments or respect as physical pain. It should also be remembered that most psychological concepts about the brain and it’s biology are still open to question without much effort. A couple of nights before writing this I had a severe migraine coming on and I managed from the hospital to get some morphine based capsules and it dawned on me that if I went in and said I was tortured by my psychiatric problems I doubt they would have used the same approach and I cannot understand this because it is arrogant to assume everyone with mental issues is stupid and unable to use powerful drugs properly. My own viewpoint on anxiety is that it maybe started with the thoughts but the chicken and the egg question is still open and from my experience anxiety can work a number of ways. Anxiety Actions – My Observations a) Inner psychological/psychiatric issues arising from enviromental sources or stressors leading to anxiety. b) Anxiety begins on it’s own leading to distortion of perceptions and becomes seperated from the issues which were the trigger so when one becomes clear minded and recovered in their mind the feeling of discomfort remains as it’s own illness seperating from the sources which triggered it in the first place. You could in some ways use the idea of the physical anxiety feeling leaving the mother ship which created it and then after years of feeding (painful events, abuse etc)  it then lives on as a lasting illness which is now seperate from the mother ship and lives on of it’s own accord like that of a disease triggered by a bug that then leaves the body but it’s scars may remain forever in a physical form like the results of a flesh eating illness for example. c) Anxiety may simply also begin without any trigger that can be known or found and create psychological problems. So really what I am saying is that it’s very difficult to understand these mechanisms and in which order they take place and I truly believe that anxiety can just appear and from that create a disturbed mind but it seems popular to believe somehow that the way the person views the world can create anxiety states rather than anxiety states affecting the persons view of the world and both seem possible. If a person is suffering to such an extreme then why not mobilize powerful classes of medicine like one would with a physically tormented soul, the treatments could be intermittent to avoid total dependence. With help from drugs such as clonazepam time off these powerful drugs should also be employed but the patient willing to go down this road should be balanced enough to understand the ramifications of it but the rewards and new outlook on life could have incredible potential if managed properly. So the observation is very simple – In severe cases of anxiety/depression pain relief should be employed for difficult to treat cases especially if that patient can pass a screening process and is considered clear headed enough to make his/her own choices about treatment. But as time has shown psychiatry may treat people as if to assume that all psychiatric consumers are automatically considered to stupid to control their treatments or of course this mythical idea that we are all potential drug abusers due to the nature of our disorders. Psychiatric patients / clients are people and deserve to be treated with some humanity and be more invlolved in choosing what treatments risky or not that they would like to trial and there seems little reason why not since otherwise life stands still and the pain stays the same.  Either way one looks at it anxieties or the misery of a tormented disturbed mind  can become so great that it is agony,  then on top of it’s cause, can re-disorder ones thoughts and effect motivation, self esteem, self image which in turn impacts upon ones entire life as a functioning individual leading to a build up of layers upon layers of conflict. Although what I am about suggest will no doubt be considered contraversial I believe that those with chronic anxiety and /or depression etc can eventually literally forget what feeling good feels like, it becomes a vague memory. In my view there needs to be a key that can open this door into the forgotton state of feeling balanced/happy and feeling better on a powerful level. Drugs like MDMA also known as the party pill esctasy can trigger … read more »

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What illegal drugs are you talking about that are so helpful and safe??? joe

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – are we being treated with wellness as the real goal or is that just an illusion ? There is no humanity in biological psychiatry. I THINK YOU ARE IRRATIONAL, DESPITE THE FACT DRUGS ARE MIS-USED THE BRAIN IS AN ORGAN AND FOR SOME OF US MEDICATION IS AN O’K APPROACH BUT I DEMAND STUFF THAT ACTUALLY HELPS. HUMANITY CAN EXIST IN DRUGS IT’S JUST THAT THOSE IN MEDICINE ARE FUCKING SHIT HEADS. There needs to be a middle ground somewhere. YOU GOT IT, ANTI-PSYCHIATRY IS NOT MIDDLE GROUND IS IT ??? NO MIDDLE GROUND IS FINDING THE USEFULNESS IN ALL METHODS IF IT’S HELPS THE INDIVIDUAL. But will that ever happen with HMO’s in control?  I doubt it. FUCK EM GO GET ILLEGAL DRUGS I DO AND THEY WORK BUT I’M CAREFUL ABOUT IT. PEACE N HUGG’S. GLENN.

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are we being treated with wellness as the real goal or is that just an illusion ? There is no humanity in biological psychiatry.

I THINK YOU ARE IRRATIONAL, DESPITE THE FACT DRUGS ARE MIS-USED THE BRAIN IS AN ORGAN AND FOR SOME OF US MEDICATION IS AN O’K APPROACH BUT I DEMAND STUFF THAT ACTUALLY HELPS. HUMANITY CAN EXIST IN DRUGS IT’S JUST THAT THOSE IN MEDICINE ARE FUCKING SHIT HEADS. There needs to be a middle ground somewhere.

YOU GOT IT, ANTI-PSYCHIATRY IS NOT MIDDLE GROUND IS IT ??? NO MIDDLE GROUND IS FINDING THE USEFULNESS IN ALL METHODS IF IT’S HELPS THE INDIVIDUAL. But will that ever happen with HMO’s in control?  I doubt it. FUCK EM GO GET ILLEGAL DRUGS I DO AND THEY WORK BUT I’M CAREFUL ABOUT IT. PEACE N HUGG’S. GLENN.

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