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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hmmm… Could you rephrase that? Acceptable responses that I can understand are: Yes No Tomorrow My parents Clean socks Clinton Bush Us Them Any other responses are confusing… 
How about, "my cat’s breath smells like catfood." ;-)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sometimes I envy people who have *the* answer. To be able to look at the state of the world, and say, ‘The US is the cause.’ To look at the state of one’s personal life, and say, ‘Depression is the cause.’ Maybe I am asking the wrong questions. Maybe the only questions worth asking are the ones that have one or two word answers. Anything more and life is just too confusing….. I think it depends on what you’re talking about. Somethings are indeed simple, other things are complex. Example: It’s not good to drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid. If you’re doing that, you need to stop. That’s simple. Solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a bit more involved. Between these 2 extremes lies everything else. Also, it seems to me that many people on this group confuse making a decision and acting on that decision with being close minded and having black and white thinking. They look at the end result of someone’s decision, and conclude that this person only thought of this decision and didn’t consider anything else. The problem is, at some point in life, you have to actually make decisions and take action. You can’t hem and haw over everything, you’ll never get out of bed that way. Making a decision that Path A is the best thing to do among the choices available to you does NOT mean that you think Path A is absolutely 100% the best and completely without any flaws, and that all the others are completely 100% terrible and totally flawed. It simply means that you think Path A is the best path to achieve your goals, and you’re now acting on that decision.
Hmmm… Could you rephrase that? Acceptable responses that I can understand are: Yes No Tomorrow My parents Clean socks Clinton Bush Us Them Any other responses are confusing…
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Sometimes I envy people who have *the* answer. To be able to look at the state of the world, and say, ‘The US is the cause.’ To look at the state of one’s personal life, and say, ‘Depression is the cause.’ Maybe I am asking the wrong questions. Maybe the only questions worth asking are the ones that have one or two word answers. Anything more and life is just too confusing…..
I think it depends on what you’re talking about. Somethings are indeed simple, other things are complex. Example: It’s not good to drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid. If you’re doing that, you need to stop. That’s simple. Solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a bit more involved. Between these 2 extremes lies everything else. Also, it seems to me that many people on this group confuse making a decision and acting on that decision with being close minded and having black and white thinking. They look at the end result of someone’s decision, and conclude that this person only thought of this decision and didn’t consider anything else. The problem is, at some point in life, you have to actually make decisions and take action. You can’t hem and haw over everything, you’ll never get out of bed that way. Making a decision that Path A is the best thing to do among the choices available to you does NOT mean that you think Path A is absolutely 100% the best and completely without any flaws, and that all the others are completely 100% terrible and totally flawed. It simply means that you think Path A is the best path to achieve your goals, and you’re now acting on that decision.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "If the US did not exist, there would be almost no terrorism in the world." Anyone who would say such a thing has no concept of history and no understanding of the capabilities of humans, irrespective of nationality and/or economic, spiritual, or any other ’system’ people use to justify their behaviors. But then some minds seem to need ‘bogey men’ or they are lost. Bri said this a couple weeks ago.
Sometimes I envy people who have *the* answer. To be able to look at the state of the world, and say, ‘The US is the cause.’ To look at the state of one’s personal life, and say, ‘Depression is the cause.’ Maybe I am asking the wrong questions. Maybe the only questions worth asking are the ones that have one or two word answers. Anything more and life is just too confusing…..
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"If the US did not exist, there would be almost no terrorism in the
world." If the US did not exist, then other country would be the superpower of the world, and it would be the country to hate. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial Eat the sandwich to email
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But then some minds seem to need ‘bogey men’ or they are lost.
Hey, Janithor, he’s picking on you! Bri — Dum spiro, spero.
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"If the US did not exist, there would be almost no terrorism in the world." Anyone who would say such a thing has no concept of history and no understanding of the capabilities of humans, irrespective of nationality and/or economic, spiritual, or any other ’system’ people use to justify their behaviors. But then some minds seem to need ‘bogey men’ or they are lost.
Bri said this a couple weeks ago.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Comment: Apparently PTSD and depression levels in many parts of Afghanistan are high. They, too, were caused by terrorist action. Bri Gosh, what terrorist action would you be referring to, Bri? Why don’t I believe that you genuinely care about the people of Afghanistan? And why would you post about the people of New York? They’re Americans, remember? Like you said, there are already too many of us anyway. Maybe some of us will kill ourselves and spare you from having to read about us. He might be referring to the terrorist actions of the Talinban, especially against women: http://www.ama-assn.org/special/womh/library/readroom/vol_ 280/jsc80298.htm (cut and paste link) Or maybe he is referring to the long-term effects of the invasion and occupation by the USSR and subsequent fighting. Or maybe he is referring to the effects of months of bombing by the US, and the return of many Norhtern Alliance members to positions of power. This is a much better link to learn about the past and present conditions for the most traumatized populaiton in Afghanistan: http://www.rawa.org/recent2.htm "If the US did not exist, there would be almost no terrorism in the world."
Anyone who would say such a thing has no concept of history and no understanding of the capabilities of humans, irrespective of nationality and/or economic, spiritual, or any other ’system’ people use to justify their behaviors. But then some minds seem to need ‘bogey men’ or they are lost.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Comment: Apparently PTSD and depression levels in many parts of Afghanistan are high. They, too, were caused by terrorist action. Bri Gosh, what terrorist action would you be referring to, Bri? Why don’t I believe that you genuinely care about the people of Afghanistan? And why would you post about the people of New York? They’re Americans, remember? Like you said, there are already too many of us anyway. Maybe some of us will kill ourselves and spare you from having to read about us. He might be referring to the terrorist actions of the Talinban, especially against women: http://www.ama-assn.org/special/womh/library/readroom/vol_ 280/jsc80298.htm (cut and paste link) Or maybe he is referring to the long-term effects of the invasion and occupation by the USSR and subsequent fighting. Or maybe he is referring to the effects of months of bombing by the US, and the return of many Norhtern Alliance members to positions of power. This is a much better link to learn about the past and present conditions for the most traumatized populaiton in Afghanistan: http://www.rawa.org/recent2.htm
"If the US did not exist, there would be almost no terrorism in the world."
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Comment: Apparently PTSD and depression levels in many parts of Afghanistan are high. They, too, were caused by terrorist action. Bri Gosh, what terrorist action would you be referring to, Bri? Why don’t I believe that you genuinely care about the people of Afghanistan? And why would you post about the people of New York? They’re Americans, remember? Like you said, there are already too many of us anyway. Maybe some of us will kill ourselves and spare you from having to read about us.
He might be referring to the terrorist actions of the Talinban, especially against women: http://www.ama-assn.org/special/womh/library/readroom/vol_ 280/jsc80298.htm (cut and paste link) Or maybe he is referring to the long-term effects of the invasion and occupation by the USSR and subsequent fighting. Or maybe he is referring to the effects of months of bombing by the US, and the return of many Norhtern Alliance members to positions of power. This is a much better link to learn about the past and present conditions for the most traumatized populaiton in Afghanistan: http://www.rawa.org/recent2.htm
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Comment: Apparently PTSD and depression levels in many parts of Afghanistan are high. They, too, were caused by terrorist action. Bri
Gosh, what terrorist action would you be referring to, Bri? Why don’t I believe that you genuinely care about the people of Afghanistan? And why would you post about the people of New York? They’re Americans, remember? Like you said, there are already too many of us anyway. Maybe some of us will kill ourselves and spare you from having to read about us.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Posting the full text of an article from a copyrighted source is a violation of copyright law. And making people download 82 lines of an article just because you think that others would be interested is rude and presumptuous. Providing the headline, a few relevant lines, and the URL so tha people can make their own decision as to whether they want to read the whole article or not while respecting copyright laws is the proper way to provide such information. What’s the *actual* point you want to make? Bri — Dum spiro, spero.
You are reading it.
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Posting the full text of an article from a copyrighted source is a
violation of copyright law. And making people download 82 lines of an article just because you
think that others would be interested is rude and presumptuous. Providing the headline, a few relevant lines, and the URL so tha
people can make their own decision as to whether they want to read the whole article or not while respecting copyright laws is the proper way to provide such information. What’s the *actual* point you want to make? Bri — Dum spiro, spero.
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Post-Traumatic Stress High in NYC After Sept. 11 Wed Mar 27, 5:24 PM ET By Amy Norton NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – In the early aftermath of September 11, New Yorkers were suffering from depression and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) at about twice the typical US rate, according to study results released Wednesday.
Posting the full text of an article from a copyrighted source is a violation of copyright law. And making people download 82 lines of an article just because you think that others would be interested is rude and presumptuous. Providing the headline, a few relevant lines, and the URL so that people can make their own decision as to whether they want to read the whole article or not while respecting copyright laws is the proper way to provide such information.
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Post-Traumatic Stress High in NYC After Sept. 11 Wed Mar 27, 5:24 PM ET By Amy Norton NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – In the early aftermath of September 11, New Yorkers were suffering from depression and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) at about twice the typical US rate, according to study results released Wednesday. Researchers say their findings are "not surprising," and that studies should continue to follow the psychological consequences of the terrorist attacks. Moreover, understanding these consequences will help public-health experts plan for dealing with the psychological fallout of any future disasters, the study’s lead author told Reuters Health. Among the more than 1,000 adults interviewed for the study, 7.5% reported symptoms of PTSD and nearly 10% had symptoms of depression, according to findings published in the March 28th issue of The New England Journal of Medicine (news – web sites). PTSD is commonly associated with war veterans, but the disorder can strike any survivor of traumas such as natural disasters, accidents or violence. It is often marked by flashbacks of the event, intrusive memories, sleep disturbances, depression and irritability. Research has suggested that fewer than 4% of Americans experience PTSD in a given year–about half the rate found in this study. Similarly, the roughly 10% of respondents who reported significant current depression was twice the estimated national prevalence, according to the study authors, led by Dr. Sandro Galea of the New York Academy of Medicine. Going into the study, it was hard to know what to expect in terms of numbers, Galea noted in an interview. "There (have been) no other disasters of this magnitude in this country that were human-made," he said. In addition, Galea said, research on PTSD typically looks at people who were directly involved in a trauma. His team wanted to study the psychological effects of a disaster like September 11 on the wider community. The researchers interviewed residents of Manhattan 5 to 8 weeks after the attacks. Respondents were considered to have possible PTSD if their symptoms had been present during the past month and had persisted for at least 2 weeks. Galea’s team found that residents living fairly close to the World Trade Center site–below Canal Street–were particularly likely to have PTSD symptoms, as were Hispanic respondents and those who lost possessions in the attacks. Respondents who said they had panic attacks immediately after the assaults were more than seven times more likely than others to report PTSD symptoms. Those who lost friends, relatives or their jobs were, not surprisingly, at increased risk of depression. Hispanic respondents, those who suffered panic attacks and those who said they had low levels of social support were also more likely to report depression, the findings show. Galea said that these findings help identify individuals who, in the event of a similar disaster, may need extra support in the immediate aftermath to prevent longer-term problems. He noted that previous research has suggested that the symptoms his team found will fade on their own in one-half to two-thirds of individuals. He and his colleagues are continuing to follow how the prevalence of depression and PTSD in New Yorkers changes over time. SOURCE: The New England Journal of Medicine 2002;346:982-987. Comment: Apparently PTSD and depression levels in many parts of Afghanistan are high. They, too, were caused by terrorist action. Bri — Dum spiro, spero.
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